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It's not so much OPINION as it is a careful look at...
THE FACTS...
http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/default.aspx?cik=814926
I see one S-8 on the just the first page...that's the company
DUMPING SHARES.
THEN there is no less than THREE SC13's
I can't give you SPECIFIC numbers because I don't subscribe to
the EDGAR site...you'll notice that Yahoo doesn't list those
filings because the company doesn't want you to SEE those filings...NONE of them are GOOD and ALL of them are DELUTIONAL. (you need to go to the EDGAR site to see them and
they now charge for access..HEY..if there is a FREE way to
access those filings PLZ let me know !)
That S-8 was just last Jan. 23...
As I said, I know and am freely EXPRESS my opinions, what I
was ASKIN was WHY any of you would DISAGREE with me at this
point and more importantly....WHY ?
catman...ISYA
PS...it's ok if you just like this company, or that you are
new to trading and don't understand how these bb stocks trade,
I'm just currious is all. Tryin to separate the rubber from
the road here.
OH NO..you are absolutely correct. I can't be spacific, of cousre. If I had THAT kind of information I'd be a VERY rich
man and NOT taking some VERY LARGE LOSSES selling shares @
.022. My cb on some of those shares was .031.
BUT, to ignore the way a stock moves on the charts, especially
after EVERY TIME they release ANY good news this stock sells off, I think it's DARNED safe to say that SOMEONE is selling
off those shares and since ALL shares come from the company
to begin with, it's pretty save to assume that the company is
a part of that selling.
catman...IYSA
PS...you don't SERIOUSLY think that a 80% retracemnte is...
RETAIL...do you ?
I'm just a wonderin..
WHAT makes ANYone here think that his stock is NOT going to
take a 100% retracement ? Using the low from last Aug to the
high in Nov. it's already retraced past the 75% support level.
100% retracement puts it @ .0118. I didn't say twelveteen for
nutten ya know ?
catman...ISYA
PS..in fact, twelveteen is .0003 to the HIGH SIDE !!!
Accumulate ?
Well...fine but, why not accumulate AFTER it stops tanking ?
These guys are OBVIOUSLY using any excuse to sell shares.
That's what is keeping the price down here...and only when
it STOPS is this pps going to start going up.
Teens ? How do ya spell twelveteen ?
catman...ISYA
PS...I sold some .022 this am but someone else paniced
and started wackin the bid so I guess I'll just keep what
I have and try and average down when we get to double digits
again...or I'll buy back into strength if they stop selling
before then, but I doubt it. Technically speaking, I don't
see any support at this point until we see at least .0146.
That's where I'll set my GTC anyway.
quit pickin at the numbers ???
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
ur funny !
catman...ISYA
PS...I remember when AMWAY was first coming
out...the greatest pyramid scandle of all times.
My wife was an accountant at the time and tried
to show my neighbor that the numbers showed that
his investments were DOOMED to failure...his reply
was "DON'T CONFUSE ME WITH THE FACTS !!!!"
PSS...once you are lost in a dream...reality no
longer matters...and that's ok. If you are
happy, who cares if you are making money or not ?
wack the ask...yep...that'll make ya money quick. eom
I wish I had a buck for every stock that DUMPS shares on every little tidbit of news. There was NO run up into this news at all. So the "buy the ruma, sell the news" just doesn't apply here...but, the "Pump the news and DUMP the shares" sure does.
I watched BUGS do this for all of last year and then just the other day the announced their R/S.
SOS...same old SH*T here I'm afraid.
What confuses me is why they can't recongize that their road to riches is NOT paved with the blood of shareholders ? Just when they start to get ahead of the game they throw us under the bus.
I'm sick of it myself...who wants my shares ? At this point, .022 is looking a LOT better than .012 and that sure looks like whre we are headed.
catman...ISYA
PS...I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see an upside here anymore...they've been selling this off for SIX MONTHS.
yep...if we see them walkin the price down this week we'll know that good numbers is a pretty good guess. I've got some
dry powder looking for a big dip today or tomorrow.
GLT..US
catman...ISYA
PS...this stock is worth twice what it's selling for NOW...
imHo.
I think they want to drive it down under a buffalo...
flush out the weak hands. I have a gtc @ .045 but
don't really expect it to fill.
catman...ISYA
PS...avg dwn once here already to get my cb down
around 7...I was only able to get a partial when
I tried to get out @ 7.5/8.
This has been a good trading stock...I hesitate
to write it off yet.
I need to be institutionalized for investing in this company.
This is a make or break it quarter for me.
I invested here exactly two hours before Kartina entered the Gulf of Mexico and I've been trying to get out of the nightmare I'm having at the bottom of this bag I'm in here, ever since. I've traded and flipped and averaged down and
I'm still down a buck on 14,500 shares.
I feel like I'm rolling around in a parking lot full of broken glass...nekid.
The Gentilly Pipeline should put some GREAT numbers on the table and if not...well...I just can't think about if not.
catman...ISYA
PS...ON the other hand...except for the pps...I can't find
a THING that I do not LIKE about this company. Management has done EVERYthing that I think they SHOULD have been doing and STILL their pps get hammered ?
TWT, I reckon.
I like your trend lines 7's a plenty...
there is a LOT of power in them when you
see where resistance is BROKEN and then
becomes SUPPORT ! It's always fasinated
me at how they often will mirror the ma's...
and in many cases, precede them...especially
the longer time frames like the 200day.
catman...ISYA
PS...nice job.
MAN...if the info on this board is CORRECT .0015
this is a HELL of a buy here !
May have to wack that ask a little here ?
catman...ISYA
PS...GLTY
got half way out...house of pain time.
They look to walk this down WELL under a buffalo, I reckon ?
If they don't come up with some SERIOUS news and SOON...
I think we will see double zero's buy the end of this month.
catman...ISYA
PS...can't say that I didn't see this coming...just sorry I
got burned here again...insert frowning face here...this loss
wipes out any profits that I've made here. They look to be
flushing out their remaining shares with an R/S in our near
future...typical pink/bb horse manuer.
I really got fooled, oh well.
I always figured a mod guy should be an 'investor'...
someone who is much closer to the company than me.
Someone who is HOLD the stock at the very least.
I'm in and out of this one based only on technical
indicies, I'm still in right now but barely...and
could just as easily be out by the end of the day.
I seldom come back to a company if I get burned.
To many "good" company's to follow out there.
catman...ISYA
PS...this company doesn't seem to care any more
about profits than they do holding onto shareholders.
NOT a good combination.
Nice paint job on rvdg eh ?
Those eod prints just KILL me.
We haven't seen .0041 all day ?
LOL
catman...ISYA
PS...2,445,000 shares at that.
PSs..."hey man, I went naked on these
this mornin...can ya take um off my hands ?"
LOL
or sumpin like that ?
I used to HATE Fridays...
it meant that we would have TWO full DAYS of...NOTHINGNESS...
until the market openned on Monday, of course.
NOW...I have as much fun on Saturday mornings as I used to
have when I was a kid. Instead of rushing to beat my sister
to the tv so I could watch MY cartoons...I rush to IHUB to
pour over the BOTTOMBUSTER LIST !!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH !!!
catman...ISYA
PS...It really is pretty kewl that Bill takes his time to
make up that list...even if I can't pick a winner there to
SAVE MY LIFE !!!
LOL
Not really...I decided to try and get a LOT more focused and
committed to my SELL button as a New Years Resolution and it's
actually having some positive results. My trading accounts
are actually GROWNING and, having been beat down as far as
they can get, my investments seem to be looking up to !
Thanks Bill...I speak for far more than myOWNself when I say
how much your efforts are appreciated.
I got beat up the first few months but that was all part of the
learning curve. Seems like the market is getting better here
TOO, so all I've got left to say now is....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~GO BABY GO !!!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
PSs...the most important thing that I've learned since coming
here, and due to some HUGE losses, Bill's lessons apply to the
whole marketplace, boards big and small. If I had been using
those lessons in the last couple of quarters on my "investment"
positions I'd have dodged some BIG bullets.
Seems like ya just can't turn your back on ANY of you money in
ANY of these markets these days? The only difference ya pay
between the boards is in Pink land, when it's gone, it's GONE.
On the "big boards" until ya sell, all ya really lose is time.
anyone that buys a stock because it's being PUMPED
deserves exactly what they get.
F/A & T/A are the basic foundation for EVERY
successful trade.
catman...ISYA
PS...imHo.
yep...noticed that bill...
and even MORE obvious is the silence.
Where are all the pumpers NOW ?
Sitting on the profits they had as everyone
else started drinking the Cool-Aid.
The only GOOD thing about it all is that
if you have already started a list of the
guys that do this they you now have a
couple of more names for the list.
catman...ISYA
PS...learning who does and doesn't belong
on that list is almost as important as the
sell button. Ya don't need to sell anything
that you did buy to begin with.
where in the WORLD did you get the eyedeer...
that these stocks could not be shorted ???
Please list the "rule" you are talkin about.
I'll agree, saps like you and ME can NOT short
these stocks but they get shorted EVERYDAY.
IN FACT, it's the FLAGERANT disregard for the
rules and the TOTAL LACK of SEC enforcement that
has caused this market to inplode in recent years.
I quit trading them ALL TOGETHER for nearly three
years primarily because of this and I'm NOW very
careful about pinks...I no longer scan for them
AT ALL.
It's JUST recently that they have started to address
the issue with the SHO list. They have even fined
one of two people to make a point but the only point
made is that they are only just now superficially
monoriting this market.
Check out the SHORT page at Pink Sheet.com...the
SHO list is ALWAYS FULL of these companies.
ON THE OTHER HAND...big money shorts companies
like these for a reason...when was the last time
that management lived up to even ONE of their MANY
promises.
All I can say about shorting here is that it has taken
the "investors" completely out of this market. Trade
them if you have the pecans and the SPEEDY skills you
need, it' helps to be clairvoyant too. But if you
are pumping money into these companies with the hope
of holding them until the "move up" you need to seriously
question your reasoning...you have MUCH better odds at
a casino....and you have all those hot babes to look at
there.
In here ya have to go to Derf's Grotto for your cheap
thrills.
shtp...missed again...
I mentioned this last weekend and I'm sorry to say that, once
again, I've put my faith in a loser. I tried all week to contact
their management team and never got past their receptionist and
she wasn't well trained enough to give me the same answer why
more than once...it should be needless to say that they never
returned any of my calls.
I thought that this one may have changed their ways but with my
only question being about capitilization and their reluctance to
address it can only mean one thing...delition is the order of the
day here. (thought this one was near a bottom last weekened)
To bad, I wished that I had found one of the RARE bb/pink stocks
that was actually trying to be a REAL company, instead it looks
like it's just another loser share abuser...it sure looked like
they wanted to change based on that last shareholder letter.
If you are still interested in this one you may want to sit on the
bid, I'm about ready to wack my free share way out of this one.
It's only going one way from what I can see.
Churn and burn.
catman...ISYA
PS...churn your shares and BURN you shareholders with the big R/S !
whatever works for ya I say ! eom
Squeeze trigger price....hehehehheheheh...
ya gotta just LOVE the lingo no matter what you
think of the message.
catman...ISYA
PS...but HEY...I'd be HAPPY to squeeze MY trigger
@ .33 !!! HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAH
I mean, those short sellers are all STUPID, right ?
I got caught in the delisting...I was way long
here. I bought this several years ago thinking
that with unemployment droping and companies
highering again this was a no brainer but the
guy is either an idot or a crook...either one
will kill ya.
I exchanged emails with him and he had NO CLUE.
"I'm tryin to save the company" at a time when
they should have been ROLLING in money ?
He got to keep his fat salary job and we got left
with toilet paper.
I can't get them to return calls or emails about
their sharestucture so they have stopped dealing
with the puplic in an honorable way...that's what
CROOKS do.
catman...ISYA
PS...I'm requestimg my certs and will put them
on the outhouse wall of shame, ya never know when
ya will need someting to wipe up with !
thanks tradewell...
but this was the last straw for me in the investing world.
I enjoy this but I'm just not very GOOD AT IT ! HAHAHAH
I had set a threshold to stop myself out if my port ever
dropped below a certain point...when TRDY hit .0025 the
other day I was offically out of business...my cash is
all going back into where I made it all to begin with...
Real Estate.
I'll take what I have left and go back to swingin a hammer.
I have a BUNCH of property setting idle while I played with
this foolishness...maybe after a few more homes I'll have
enough to feel comfortable returning to this market but...
I doubt it. I don't think they have done enough to protect
the small retail investor, we are not much more than lambs
for the slaughter here. I never cuuld figure out how to
stay ahead of the MM's...they just have to much power to
manipulate prices with this size market caps. These companies
get on the sho list and NEVER come off, explain that ?
GLTY'all...I hope ya have better luck with this microcap
market than I've had.
catman...ISYA
PS...I realize TRDY has bounced back but if you take one
look at ARRS you will see what happened to nearly half
of my losses last year in that one stock last week.
If you had told me a company with a market cap of over
82mln, which traded on the "big boards" could lose 80% of
it's value in just ONE QUARTER I would have laughed in your
face.
Needless to say...I'm not laughing much anymore !
When you are in @ 12 and out @ 5 you don't stay in THIS
business very long !
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA...happy trails.
not if ya run out of money on companies like this. eom
Ya mean when it was a buck a share !
This sure has been an exersise in frustration but just as
good a leason in what happens when Management decides to
throw the share price to the wolves...along with his share
holders. Delution is an ugly thing, ain't it.
I gave up on news back around .11 LOL !
If they had news they would have used it...they don't care
where the pps goes...they will just R/S out of it LONG
befoe they let the current shareholders make a buck.
I'm tryin to trade my way out of this bad re-entry for me.
Hurt LOTS of people this one has...nobody wants to touch it now.
ONE to many LIES...and EVRYbody cries.
catman...ISYA
PS...HEY...let's have a R/S raffle ! We can each put up
10k shares and pick a date...winner take all !!!
LOL !!!!
Just for the record...
I've had enough...I've lost one account thanks to this
flea bitten dawg already...I put every share I own on sale
this pm under .06 and if I get fills on the whole 2.5mln
shares I'll have gotten out @ even money after 5 years...
pitiful by ANYone's standards. I just can't justify the
risk here in the accounts I have left...if it's not obvious
what is going on here I don't know what is.
GLTY'all
(I don't expect to get out anytime soon though...lots of
downside here still as low as the volume is here, I'm sure
they will partial fill me to death so I'll let ya know if I
run out of patients and decide to start wackin my way out)
catman...ISYA
PS...no bash for the rest of you longs, I really hope that
this one works out for ya'll, just wanted to give ya a
heads up...in case you are considering adding here soon...
2.5mln is going to take some time with this low volume.
It stopped bein fun...
so now I'm done.
Rule 144 changes...
I wish someone would post a link that will explain how this
new rule change will be GOOD for us as traders/investors in
the microcap market.
As I understand it, when companies would issue restricted
stock to 'special' investors, those investors would have
to hold those stocks for a YEAR before they could then DUMP
them on the market, basically crushing the pps with unchecked
delution to the share structure.
NOW...the this new rule says they only have to hold those shares
6 months before they dump them.
How does this HELP the holders of the common shares ? Doesn't
this just mean that we can be exploited that much QUICKER ?
I'm SURE that I've missed something here ?
The general feel in the room was that this is a GOOD thing but
I don't see it ?
Thanks for any feedback that some of the more educated traders
here.
catman...ISYA
.0025's fall up til the close..sub 20's tomorrow.
REST IN PEACE !
LOL
catman...ISYA
PS...maybe I'll put a GTC in there @ .001 and
see if it fills by lunch ?
So does Neil Young...Chrome Dreams II...
but I'm here to make money and it sure looks like
I won't be making any HERE !
catman...ISYA
PS...not any time soon...to bad. I have to honestly
say, despite my feelings for management, I'm more
disappointed than I expected. I REALLY thought they
would have much better numbers...we all did, I reckon.
in short..
the deal, over the next two years, with a deluting of no less than TWENTY MILLION SHARES @ .005...pretty much makes what
we already have invested here even DEADER than it was
yesterday, if that is possible to comprehend.
And you guys laughed when i bashed this magagement team as
having NOT A CARE in the world for their shareholders ?
They just openned up the door and THREW each and everyone
of us out to the wolves...instead of trying to average down
with 2's I"m going to place the money, instead, on an open
bet that this stock will R/S LONG before it EVER sees a
penny again.
catman...ISYA
PS...those people are going to want to get PAID...they
will sell their shares when they get um...you can count
on that. We are in the grips of the first REAL Bear Market
in over 6 years...whatEVER future erarnings that we MIGHT
see out of this move will not be felt by the pps until we
SEE the ACTUAL NUMBERS, which we will NOT SEE for AT LEAST
another YEAR.
PSS...the part that really pisses me off is being back in the
bag with this POC !!!! Coulda been out with about with a
respectable 20% and now I'm STUCK for another climbing season
in he FREEKIN ALPS !!!!!!
who got the 3's ? eom
.0077...eom.
two weeks...at least. eom
SHTP...I know many of you got hurt by this
before I ever started to trade it, but it's
not the same company it was just 90 days ago.
Thought some of you might find this read..
innerestin...
http://www.shotpakinc.com/shareholder_ltr.html
catman...ISYA
PS...I waited until they were able to relist
on the pink sheets before I started back in
this week. I had a handfull of free shares
that I began adding too, with room for a good
bit more if they live up to expectations here.
BUT, it looks to me like they have the finacial
backing and the management in place now to
expand...expotentially in the not so distant
future.
inHo, of course.
yep...not BAD news at least eom
I was cleaning out my port of old POS shares...
getting the cirts in the mail and pasting them on the
wall of the outhouse for an old cabin I have in the woods.
catman....ISYA
PS...I emailed them this am...don't expect to hear back from
them at all.
I still have shares but have never heard from them after the
delisting. I was cleaning to my portfolio and came across
this old delisted stock...technically, they still represent
shares of the company and would have to be addressed in SOME
way before they were to relist, but, what surprised me was
to see their website shows they are listed ?
IF you find out anything Investo, pm me would ya please ?
Thanks
catman...ISYA
AARS...howda ya like that after hours action
The larges single one day losss on a stock
that I've EVER taken. I can NOW honestly
say that I will NEVER ''invest'' in another
company again for as long as I live.
As Bill has said so many times...it doesn't
matter WHAT board you are on...they are all
the same.
TRADE OR DIE.
catman...ISYA
PS...NET down from 70 MILLION to 9 MILLION...
59 MILLION DOLLAR LOSS in ONE QUARTER !!!!
And you guys thought that it was just the
PINKIES and BB's that did crap like this...
to tell ya the truth, so did I.
anyone have a file date ? 25th was it ? eom