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Lets be clear... this is what is NOT GOING ON HERE......vhubs revenues soar, vhub becomes profitable, trumps presidency will likely remove ore ease
In my opinion, the winthers took a lucrative side deal and left us holding the bag. Since january of 2016, vhub has had a deliberate strategy of not issuing PRs and doing everything possible to keep the shareholders in the dark and keep the pps down. It makes no sense to me, but in hind sight it is clear. I was voicing my concerns for many months and getting criticized for it.
I think this situation needs to be analyzed by an experienced attorney. I have started that process. If kyle winther, his relatives, or perlingos have received any substantial side compensation or stake in the company , my opinion is that he failed his fiduciary responsibilities to the shareholders and has been fraudulent.
I think the shareholders need to consider a class action lawsuit against kyle, lori, neils winther and jake perlagos. I think vhubs actions over the last year would be very damaging in a lawsuit.
We shareholders need to get an attorney and go after the Winthers.....this is a scam.
Unfortunately, as i have been saying the last year, with the lack of effort by VHUB in keeping investor information on the website up to date and essentially no news postings for 12 months....that just indicated to me that the Winthers didnt give a shit about the shareholders.....and in the end we would be left holding the bag. I bet kyle winther has negotiated a very lucrative consulting fee in the new company. Winther will make out like a bandit and we hold the bag. Maybe time we shareholdeds have an attorney review this ...
This has always been winthers strategy because he had no intention of sharing success with the shareholders. Just another scam
My guess is that due to lack of communication and news from VHUB, no investor wants to gamble that VHUB won't sell for an unusually low price, therefore no one is buying at a higher price.None of the shareholders want to sell because they think the company should sell for a much higher PPS. Therefore little to no volume. As I have said all a long, the lack of communication keeps the investors sheepish, I don't know if this is a strategic angle played by VHUB. I can't think of why it would be in their best interest unless something is not above board. Its hard to figure out.
I am nervous because the lack of info / news/ updated investor info over the last 10 months has indicated to me that VHUB Ownership may not really have best interests of the shareholders in mind.
Only time will tell.
Not me selling off shares. Im hoping this is not an intentional manipulation because the buyout is based on current or avg share price. If that is the case VHUB would be selling at an extremely undervalued level. That would not be good for us or the Winthers... I would assume. I cant think of why someone would sell off 1 Mill shares with a buyout less than 2 weeks away. Makes no sense unless there are bad intentions with this transaction.
Quite the wall at .024-.025. I wonder who is behind that?
Any updated estimates on the buyout PPS? I am optimistic at $ .14 -$ .16. I would hope VHUB would not base the share price on the current value, or last years financial results. The company was gaining sales and momentum, and that should be reflected in the price. The time is approaching fast.... Any predictions??
Good analysis.... Thanks.
Bernard Samuel.. I see from the other posts that Mr. Winther is obviously working for PLY based on some of the pictures you have seen. What is stopping him from getting a very lucrative consulting/ marketing contract from PLY in exchange for selling them the assets well below a fair market price. In other words, is there any possibility of the major shareholders (Withers, Perlagos) getting compensation other than stock sales, then leaving the shareholders holding the bag. That is my only concern in this asset purchase. Your thoughts???
now you all know why i have been impatient with the limited flow of information and news. Hopefully this will have a good ending for us all!
3,000,000
That was Hostastocks attack on me because I voiced dissatisfaction with VHUBS lack of news PR and outdated investor info on the VHUB website... I am an electrical contractor in the MW and I do not work for IJOY.. LOL
My position is that if news is not in print its probably BS
No PR? Who would have ever guessed? LOL
so ... at what point of Ownership (%) do you need to start filling out paperwork? I don't know the answer to that... does anyone know the answer to that??
VHUB has pretty much given up on PRs and giving investors good current information. They are only doing the minimum as required by the SEC. Imho
What will it take for this stock to actually move to a reasonable value? Any thoughts?
The numbers are there but rarely any positive movement..... What needs to happen?
I agree.. but if nobody ever sees this stock the price will lag. VHUB is doing alot of things right, but this stock needs some publicity.
10-k news not reported on tdameritrade. ugh!
No.. There were two news release. The first $ 1.0 Mill sales and then a month later, they confirmed the second month of sales over $ 1.0 Million. Please go back and look.
1)https://finance.yahoo.com/news/1-million-sales-one-month-130400364.html
2)https://finance.yahoo.com/news/1-million-sales-two-months-132100330.html
That could explain how you go from $1.0 Mill a month for the first two months and then $ 400K or $500k for the third month. With little or no info from VHUB, do we know for a fact that iJoy is still not manufacturing and selling to VHUBS international customers? I dont think we know that for sure.
I am well aware of that.. But if you recall, iJoy was attempting to sell product to VHUB customers directly using the limitless logo and label. That happened in the third month of the 1st quarter. At that point in time, I was nervous about how much of Vhub sales were stolen by ijoy.
$ 2.5M seems suspiciously low for having over $ 2.0 Million the first two months. That means the third month was only approx $400K in revenue. This makes me very nervous that the iJOY fiasco was more serious than we were led to believe. Then again, with almost no news coming from the company we are in the dark.
Yes revenues increased for the first qtr compared to last year, but the poor performance in month 3 has me concerned. There has also been personnel changes which were not explained. overall, VHUB needs to do more communicating with its shareholders........Not thrilled with this report.
I am interested in seeing the revenue for month 3 of the quarter. We know the results of month 1 and 2, but due to no additional news, i am assuming month 3 revenues fell short of those from the first two months. I think the iJoy fiasco occurred during month 3, so it will be interesting to see if there was an impact to sales and if there are any concerns moving forward that we are unaware of. Are they sustaining $ 1.0 Mill/ month or was that a flash in the pan?
Hopefully we will see revenues of $ 3.0 Mill or greater for the quarter
NExt week we should see the 1st quarter report. We know sales were over $ 1.0 Million each month for the first two months. Crickets for the third month. Lets hope we see quarterly gross revenue over $ 3.0 Million.If we are on pace for $12 to 14 Million annual sales, this stock should be worth a minimum of .10 PPS IMHO.
Lets see what the report says mid week.
No News.. nothin.....Just keeps bleeding down. I dont think VHUB wants their stock to have any value..........
I was expecting some positive movement from VHUB today due to the Trump Victory. The intent to reduce government regulation as it pertains to the new FDA regs should get the PPS moving up. Any thoughts? Surprisingly, no movement this morning
Somebody REALLY wants to push this stock down a s far a s possible before the 1st Qtr report comes out. If I had liquid cash on hand I would be buying up those shares..
Someone just bought 500K @.009...... Lucky
Someone is really trying to drive this down or Liquidating their position. Very Volatile here. Some news regarding sales would be helpful, but as usual.....crickets.........
How many news statements have been released in the last 10 months? The effort set forth by VHUB is pathetic..
What has happened to this stock over the past week? Looks like there is an effort to minimize PPS before the 1st quarter report comes out.
I think VHUBs lack of communication is partially responsible for this undervalued PPS.
It defies logic.
The stock starts moving in a positive direction , and "crickets" from Vhub. No news regarding anything........ I have a hard time feeling positive about this stock when they cant even generate periodic news. Almost seems like they want to keep the pps as low as possible
Agreed! They stopped with news about 10 months ago, now we are kept in the dark. They don't even bother to keep the investor info on their website up to date. A sustained Million a month in revenue should push the stock over $ .10 pps. However, no more updates on sales makes me suspicious that they are not maintaining $ 1 Mill a month
Nice to see some new contributors to this board.. Movin on up like George and Weezy...
I think if sales continue at this rate, Revenues will be near $ 14 Mill for the year. At this level, if the toxic debt issues are resolved, Im thinking VHUB should be valued at $ .15 pps.
Just my opinion.
If FDA issue goes away, pps will be MUCH higher
you make no sense.. stay off the the drugs.
Yes.. Silly me raising a red flag when one of the company officers list himself as a former employee of the company on social media. I should have just looked on the VHUB website's Investor information...oh, thats right, the information on that site is over a year old and has never been updated.
Its not my job to blow rainbows and unicorns up the investors' rear ends.....
apparently thats your job
Im just looking for current and accurate information so I can protect my investment. Not quite sure what you are doing