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Newriver Thanks for
The warm regards. To be honest I don't think I'm back just trying to get some answers. I realize I'm not wanted here and theres no reason for me to get my blood pressure up. I guess I smell bad or something not sure.
I don't monger many wars these days because of my maturing into an old fart.
There are some great people here that have been around the IDCC boards for a very long time. Some are gone now for good. I miss them. To the ones that are still here I say hey ya! Used to be a real good and educational time. I sure miss those days but they are gone.
In the mean time I'm wrapped up in a lot of real estate and taking most of my time these days.
Best to you and your family.
Moose
So why was Rip and Howard Fired.
Its funny how nobody wants to talk about this.
I'm sure posters know but aren't saying publicly why.
Seems like on subject information to me.
Maybe you all know and I missed it not sure.
Thanks for any replies.
Moose
Data. It still seems to me that Nokia should have thought about that before they signed a contract for IPR with IDCC. But it is obvious now Nokia NEVER intended to pay IDCC.
Apparently they were trying to munipulate the international IPR world markets but now got bit in the ass by their endeavors.
IMO Nokia signed on the dotted line and now they are legally obligated to pay no matter how they feel about the situation these days.
If they don't pay and are not made to pay. They IMO are setting a precedence for all companies never to have to pay for anything after they've signed a binding contract. Not to mention losing in an arbitration award court after agreeing to be legally binded by one.
IMO this strikes at the heart of the faith and trust of the world judical system and world trade if Nokia doesn't pay.
If Nokia doesn't pay, all of Nokia's assets in this country need to be confiscated and then given the boot from doing business in the United States again.
I think if something doesn't happen in a few months a letter writting campaign to our government representives is in order.
No matter how you try to sweeten Nokia's wrongfully, borderline crimminal munipulation of the world IPR market place, by not honoring legally binding contracts. NOKIA IS IN THE WRONG! No matter what Nokia think's of the situation now.
Nokia needs to be brought to justice. If this situation needs to be brought up to the attention of our United States Congress as an example of unfair world free trade and an ineffective world judical system, then so be it!
Moose
Ya JimLur
Kinda reminds me of my trips to Japan and converting dollars over to Yen. The office workers just took their own sweet time getting to me. Then they took my American dollars and ran them through machinces that would confirm whether or not they were counterfeit. The American dollars had to be almost newly issued or they would not pass the test nor would the workers accept anything less. (These were Bank workers)
Of course they never allowed me the same courtesy to examine their Yen bills LOL! You either took the bills they gave you or you were done.
My point is the Japenese are very meticulous and will only accept things their way. They are not bothered by whether or not you are in a hurry because they are not. Except when they come to Disneyland LOL!
Moose
Awfully quiet over here.
Doesn't seem like anyone is excited about earnings tomorrow.
Strange IMO. I'd think sense IDCC guided upwards that everyone would have a more positive outlook.
Guess theres not much to ponder now. Tomorrow we'll all know.
I'm still looking for a positive surprise of some kind and not much about the arbitration.
Heres to a very good day tomorrow. After earnings then on to arbitration in the days and weeks that follow.
Moose
Jim I was hoping it would be higher today.
The volume anyway. I can give $20 a little more time LOL!
Thanks for the chart
Moose
Clarence
So then we come back to (Why did Nokia sign the contract in the first place?)
I believe Nokia stated because they didn't believe they would ever have to pay IDCC.
So who is treating who unfairly here?
Seems to me Nokia is P Oed because IDCC may have snookered them at their own game.
IDCC must have figured out that Nokia had no intention of paying them in the future so here we are.
Anybody feel sorry for Nokia?
I don't
Moose
Jim
I think theres quite a few longs that have gotten out in fear of the out come and are waiting to get back in on positive news. I know we need some news too but we could have built a base in the last couple a weeks in the low 17s and getting ready for a move up on anticipation of good news.
Been quiet side ways trading you know.
Might be time to make sure those puts don't come into the money as well.
Moose
It is funny huh Jim?
I'm just speculating on how much negativity there is and how quiet the trading has been. We've been trading in this side action for a while now. We are getting close to earnings. Just think it might be time for a little break out.
You know by now how IDCC trades. Just seems like its time for a move now IMO.
Moose
Re Linedriver Why not?
Well it may not this morning but IMO theres been so much negitivity here about the Nokia 3G litigation with IDCC that this should clear up a lot of depression over that issue.
Add in the fact that we could start having some PR releases very soon before earnings. If you haven't looked lately we have a market hitting new highs.
Dave Davis and TEXB have done a real fine job in doing their research and IMO have shed some real factual light on what Nokias smoke screen and true motives really are all about.
Sure does narrow down the impact to IDCCs 3G IPR IMO.
Moose
Re: D. Davis that should add $3 to the share price this morning.
Thanks
Moose
OT Ya your right.
I was thinking he started politicing over in Fall Brook because he was living there.
Sorry
I'll go back to my lurk mode now.
Moose
OT Fall Brook.
Well I'm just west of Phoenix Arizona. I lived many years at Camp Pendleton.
Last thing I remember about Fall Brook was about 5 kids driving a WWII half track down main street with no tags. Probably around 1972 to 1977.
Clint Eastwood was the mayor over there at one time.
Moose
Is that Fallbrook behind Camp Pendleton. I need to get over there one of these days anyway. Got some friends with an off road shop I want to visit over there.
Does Clint E. still live there?
Moose
Sure seems like we got a lot of worried folks posting a lot of piles of crapola over here.
Its really hard to believe people could be swayed to think IDCCs legal team is totally incompetent.
Makes me wonder why these posters are trying to play on peoples fears right before we got all of these form 4s for management aquiring shares.
Is there another reason you posters are so worried. Was Monday just a little test that you didn't like?
A little hard to get out without more shares being offered for sale.
Something sure doesn't smell right IMO.
Moose
Ziploc
But on the other hand, IDCC needed revenues and needed to play up to Nokia.
You haven't forgotten the engineering fees IDCC was recieving from Nokia at the time have you?
It was enough to keep IDCC going and healthy. IMO IDCC management has done what they needed to do to stay in business.
Yes, it now sucks that Nokia is trying to weasel their way out of this contract screaming and kicking IMO.
But you also have to be impressed that so far it looks like little old IDCC has out foxed Nokia.
I think its funny that Nokia didn't think they would ever have to pay. I sure would have liked to have heard what Nokia's management team had to say when the Ericsson/Sony settlement came in and IDCC made their statement about what Nokia owed LOL! I bet they just about crapped their drawers and had a few choice words.
You might say IDCC has the Tiger by its tail, has reached for its scrotum and has started to squeeze. Right now we're just getting kicked around some.
Lets just hope we don't get bit or clawed to badly in the short term.
Moose
Loop darn it
We all make mistakes and errors. Thats because were human and as we all are getting senile in our old age your among many, many friends here in the same condition.
But for one to find and admit they made an error means more to me about the man and less about the facts. You are always a straight shooter and we all really appreciate that buddy.
Now quit beating yourself up over this and get back to helping us sort this mess out.
Now what was we sorting out? I forgot LOL!
Best to you old friend!
Many thanks from the past posts you've made.
Moose
IDCC also has a signed terms of contract in hand.
Why would management settle for anything LESS than what had been already, many moons ago agreed to?
Nokia just needs to pay what they agreed to pay. Nothing more, nothing less.
Your statement makes no sense unless you would like IDCC to be in litigation to renegotiate all past, present and future contract fees every time a licensee believes they can pay from nothing to less than what was agreed to.
This has got to stop some where my friend. If the fat in the pan is getting to hot, then get out.
Moose
Twelvebees Who knows.
Just like today. We went down came back up to around the close yesterday and now headed down again.
It almost seems to me like they buy the shares back so they can sell em again to run the price down shaking traders and investors out of more shares. Some of the shares that were maybe just bought on the run up as well.
Moose
Nokias stance for years has been that there should be small or no fees for the 3G standard.
Doesn't mean its going to happen LOL!
I wonder if Nokia is going to offer anything free?
Ya right!
Moose
Yes I believe their coming too and yes hopefully soon, very soon.
JMO but I think things appear to be shaping up nicely so far.
Moose
Mschere A lot of familiar statements in that NEC PR huh?
Thanks!
Moose
What makes you think their not coming?
Moose
I bet AMS is buying this morning.
He knows a good buy when he sees it.
Moose
The day and or week is not over with yet my friend.
No I didn't buy anymore this morning yet but sure thought about it. And not entirely because of the content of the PRs this morning.
Moose
Loop
But is this a possibility that Nokia, even with a positive out come for IDCC in arbitration. Could still refuse to pay IDCC? I was of the opinion this arbitration was a cut and dry situtation upon a ruling by the arbitration board.
Rather worrisome if Nokia can still refuse to pay. If so this could continue to go on for a very long time.
Is there any legal action that IDCC could then take against Nokia sales in the US?
Thanks.
Moose
Probably a short trying to cover at a lower price. Lets hope they'll be able to cover closer to 20 in coming days.
Moose
TFWG
Im more worried about Samsung joining in with Nokia. That could really kill the share price for a while IMO.
Moose
Ya but Ericsson in order to regain
market share against a competitor Nokia it would make more sense to me for Ericsson to license a 3G contract with IDCC. Maybe hurting Nokias pocket book at this time while Nokias hurting some anyway. May not be many more ops for Ericsson to do so if Nokia prevails against IDCC. Lets just say a 3G license with IDCC right now could be icing on IDCCs legal patent cake IMO.
Moose
Just a thought
If Ericsson wanted to stick it to Nokia through IDCC. Wouldnt right about now be the time to construct a 3G license with IDCC?
The timing of this last prepayment is kinda interesting to me right before arbitration.
12-Jan-2005
Regulation FD Disclosure
Item 7.01. Regulation FD Disclosure.
On January 10, 2005, InterDigital Communications Corporation's wholly-owned subsidiary, InterDigital Technology Corporation (ITC), received a payment of approximately $28 million from Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB (Sony Ericsson) under ITC's March 2003 license agreement with Sony Ericsson. The payment primarily consists of a pre-payment of estimated sales of Second Generation (2G) GSM/TDMA and 2.5G GSM/GPRS/TDMA standards compliant terminal units during 2005 and 2006. Consistent with past revenue recognition of pre-payments from Sony Ericsson, revenue associated with this pre-payment will continue to be recognized as Sony Ericsson reports the exhaustion of royalty pre-payments through the sale of licensed terminal units.
Moose
Sprint announces 3G vendors, pursues IMS
Kevin Fitchard, 12.07.04, 3:26 PM ET
Telephony
Revealing the first details of its planned CDMA 1X EV-DO launch, Sprint today announced it would invest up to $3 billion in its new network upgrades, divided among vendors Lucent Technologies, Nortel Networks and Motorola, and would be the first U.S. carrier to deploy IMS.
The biggest winner in the deal is Lucent, which won a $1.5 billion contract over three years to upgrade Sprints current Lucent base stations to EV-DO, supply new RF carriers and provide key elements for an IP Multimedia Subsystems (IMS) platform. IMS would converge Sprints network, using VoIP to merge data and voice in the core network, allow for enhanced voice services and pave the way for end-to-end IP in the future.
Motorolas portion was $450 million over one-year, its largest mobile broadband infrastructure deal to date for a single year. It is an extension of its existing CDMA 1X supply deal for 1X basestation equipment and upgrades to EV-DO. Nortel received a three-year contract worth $1 billion for new 1X basestation equipment and controllers and core switching platforms as well as future EV-DO upgrades.
For more information on this publication, or to subscribe to the print edition, visit http://www.telephonyonline.com.
Lucent registers shares for litigation settlement
Fri Dec 3, 2004 05:24 PM ET
WASHINGTON, Dec 3 (Reuters) - Lucent Technologies Inc. (LU.N: Quote, Profile, Research) registered 200 million shares issuable under warrants as part of a previously announced litigation settlement, according to a U.S. regulatory filing on Friday.
The warrants, which have an exercise price of $2.75 each, entitle the recipient to one share of the company's stock for up to three years after the issue date, according to the filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.
Lucent's stock closed down 10 cents, or 2.5 percent, at $3.87 a share in Friday trading on the New York Stock Exchange.
The 2003 agreement settled 54 separate lawsuits including a consolidated shareholder class action lawsuit as well as related Employee Retirement Income Security Act (ERISA), bondholder, derivative and state securities cases.
Lucent agreed to pay a total settlement of $315 million in common stock and cash, the company announced last year.
Lucent said it could receive $550 million in proceeds from the sale of the warrants which it plans to use for general corporate purposes.
Two Top Nokia Executives to Leave Company
Friday December 3, 7:32 am ET
By Matti Huuhtanen, Associated Press Writer
Two Top Nokia Executives Sari Baldauf, J.T. Bergqvist to Leave Company for Personal Reasons
HELSINKI, Finland (AP) -- A pair of top executives in charge of the networks division at mobile phone giant Nokia Corp. are leaving the company for personal reasons, the Finnish company said Friday.
Sari Baldauf, the head of the Nokia's networks division, will leave next month for personal reasons, capping a 20-year tenure with the company, while J.T. Bergqvist, the head of the global business units of Nokia networks, will resign on Jan. 31.
It was the second time in two weeks that Nokia, the world's largest maker of mobile phones, said top executives were leaving.
Last week, Matti Alahuhta, who had been part of the company's strategy department and a board member since 1993, said he was leaving to become the chief executive of Kone, the Finnish elevator and escalator maker.
A Nokia spokeswoman said Baldauf, 49, had been planning to leave for some time.
"Sari has been closely involved in the development of the whole mobile infrastructure industry during the past 20 years, practically during her whole career at Nokia," Nokia CEO Jorma Ollila said. "She has, however, taken a very personal decision to make a change in her life and focus on new interests."
Baldauf will be replaced by Australian Simon Beresford-Wylie, 46, a member of the networks management team who heads Nokia's infrastructure business in Asia.
Bergqvist also was leaving for personal reasons, Nokia said, but gave no other details. He will not be directly replaced in a general shakeup of the networks division, a Nokia spokeswoman said.
Nokia, whose mobile phone sales account for 80 percent of total revenue, has recently been losing market share to its chief rivals, South Korea's Samsung Electronics, U.S. manufacturer Motorola Corp. and Germany's Siemens AG.
Also, its networks division this week lost a major bid for a third generation mobile network in the United States from Atlanta-based Cingular Wireless LLC believed to be worth billions of dollars. The contract went to the Japanese-Swedish joint venture Sony Ericsson, Siemens and Lucent Technologies Inc.
Based in Espoo, just outside the Finnish capital, Nokia has sales in 130 countries with some 53,000 employees.
Nokia: http://www.nokia.com
A Top Pick For 3G Growth
12.03.04, 12:32 PM ET
In a sector preview for 2005, Merrill Lynch predicts short-term weakness in wireless-infrastructure spending but sees a recovery in the second half of the year. "We expect the overall market to remain relatively flat and do not find infrastructure pure-plays on the expected 3G growth," it said. "However, we view buy-rated Qualcomm (nasdaq: QCOM - news - people ) as the best proxy to the expected growth in 3G deployment." Merrill Lynch projects 2005 revenue growth for 3G equipment to soar by 58%. In addition, the research firm said that despite the recent 3G win by Lucent Technologies (nyse: LU - news - people ), other near-term opportunities in WCDMA appear limited. "We believe Cingluar/AT&T Wireless will start to deploy WCDMA as a competitive response to Verizon Wireless and Sprint (nyse: FON - news - people )'s EV/DO (evolution data optimized) service launches," it said. "Cingluar/AT&T's ambition to launch a 3G service as early as the second half of 2005 might be too aggressive, especially in light of the merger complexities. Still, in our view there is little doubt they will start deploying equipment already in the first half of 2005." Cingular is a joint venture of SBC Communications (nyse: SBC - news - people ) and BellSouth (nyse: BLS - news - people ). Verizon Wireless is a joint venture of Verizon Communications (nyse: VZ - news - people ) and Vodafone (nyse: VOD - news - people ).
Lets hope thats the case.
That maybe the judge is allowing Nokia to bury themselves with their own shovel.
Moose
Mschere
Im not sure what is up with trying to read the Yahoo messages. It happened to me the same way a few days back but now all works fine. Try it again tomorrow is all I can tell you.
Moose
Data thats very interesting
IMO if a company files a patent in China. Youve just made a technolgy transfer to any Chinese company who chooses to copy.
I know strides have been made in this area over copyrights with the Chinese but if it would benefit them, they will obtain it and use it IMO. By filing a patent there youve just made a contribution to the Communist Chinese patent public library. It would be a long hard road of frustration for an outside company (if ever) to right an infringement in China.
Im not saying that a company shouldnt file. But I would say to file only what very basic material is needed to do business to get ones foot in the door.
Its very reasurring to see IDCC so far has not opened their book to them so far.
Thanks!
Moose
O kay LOL!
Ive gone quiet again.
Moose
Whats wrong with Moose breath??
Seems to me IDCC could use a little Moose breath in the trade this morning.
Please dont offend the Moose anymore. My Dentist may read this broad and cancel my root canal this afternoon if theres any question about my breath.
Thank you!
Moose
The recent reduction in employees
might be just the start of further cut backs to possibly include financial cuts to programs. Away to bring IDCC back into cash flow positive territory. It may have nothing to do with new revenues or a combination of both. Seems to me management has left these options open in their PR statement.
Our strategic focus has always been centered on the creation and monetization of highly valuable technology and intellectual property (IPR) that drives innovation in the wireless industry. To strengthen that focus and ensure that we are increasingly efficient as a developer of fundamental wireless technology, we are making operational adjustments to our workforce and increasing the relative mix of people dedicated to IPR-rich technology development. We are also reducing our internal investment in the development of technology elements that have little or no opportunity to differentiate us through the incorporation of inventive content," said Howard Goldberg, President and Chief Executive Officer
Moose