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TAX MAN
If we look at what the SEC did to day by getting rid of the Grandfather clause over the next 6 months tells me that most of the shorts have been taken care of or deals were made or going to be made.
MEFFOOS
Lazyeye, I would have to agree with you. With SPRL creating iminent revenue, that stock is, or WILL be worth alot ton more than .006. If I wasn't invested in 8 different pinky stocks already, I would throw some cash into that one. Still waiting for something to turn around good for us. But that is definately a good play though.
meffoos
Listen loyal shareholders, DONT LISTEN TO THOSE THAT ARE NOT OF THIS STOCK!
WE KNOW WHAT'S COMING. WE DONT NEED TO PROVE THAT WE ARE RIGHT. OUR TIME IS COMING. OUR COMPANY IS SOLID AND SO ARE WE.
meffoos
Drugster, exactly what I am thinking too!! we posted are analogies seconds apart..LOL!!
meffoos
How is that the company said 5 weeks ago they would annouce more info on the buyout once the attournies have more to say. What have they been working on for five weeks?
They should of have an update of some degree by now. I do believe this is a clear signal of BUYOUT COMPLETED without actually saying the buyout is done yet. If someone was buying your house, you wouldn't let them start moving their furniture in until there was a complete deal.
meffoos
TAX MAN
Beleive me I am not selling for a couple reasons,you are probably right, I am going to see how long it last.
MEFFOOS
Not sure if this is a mistake, but I just received my PAVC shares NON RESTRICTED in my TDameritrade account moments ago. And we aint going to call anyone either about it!
Let's see how long this lasts. Let that price rise so we can take advantage of what is ours that has been taken from us. The time is at hand.
meffoos
Everyone just needs to keep in mind to respect others opinions on this stock. Arguing over the OS is not going to move us any further along. Discussion is needed over what people are hearing, and then, someone puts tid bits of pieces together to figure out possibly where we are at.
We are all in this together so lets start acting liking a united group of shareholders. That does not mean that everyone should agree with everything posted. Both negative and positive are helpful. Hopefully, with little intelligence, people can decipher over what to think and what not to think.
At any rate, fighting with each other is depressing to anyone else who reads these boards to try to get some information. Who knows, maybe a newby was on here today and read that and now has second thoughts about buying in. Words are a powerful tool and should be thought carefully and thoroughly before being posted.
Have a great evening and am looking forward to seeing how this week goes. I am excited to see .0002s and think that when we get a steady income, we will see share buybacks, and cash dividend. All in my opinion.
meffoos
TAX MAN
The when is if shareholders can get their shares into their accs.Then file 144 forms making the brokers turn the markers into real shares by buying them or their shorting clients in the open market.
MEFFOOS
TAX MAN
I am not a lawyer or a SEC gov official, but to me they meaning clients of ATURD have been covering.First run was .004 to .35.Next was .22 to 1.25 as small as it was.I have charted their daily vol every day since they went to PAVC.I believe they have been covering all along. Even when the price seems to be going down they with the cooperation of MMs were able to buy it at the bid.Therefore killing two birds at the same time.JPHC had a short of 5 billion or more acoding to their IR guy (GLENN),then we went to a 200/1 reverse split,(new short # 25 million.Remember the O/S is 30 million.So they have had a year to cover since cert pull.Do you think the COMPANY would have any problem proving a short or stock minipulation in their stock.I DOUT IT!!!!!!!!!! Now the DTC &SEC will or could pay damages to COMP or us.
MEFFOOS
how did you receive an AC Energy div. I thought it was Atlantis Holdings...or something like that...lol...
unless they merged without informing me...lol..
meffoos
TAX MAN
I think we confuse who is short,keep in mind aturd HOLDS your shares in pepoles accs.Hedges and other business that short have accs. with aturd.Now if aturd alows others to get into trouble and theres no accountability to make them to settle then there is a problem between aturd and the DTC when certain stocks ask for a cert pull.This is where it gets interesting when the DTC gives out say 100 million shares in certs and in ATURDs accs. there is needed 300 million shares needed to go to individuals.Now ask the question who has to cover? answer ( DTC,ATURD, SEC FED RES)
MEFFOOS
PS The buck stops really at the FED RES.
Dallas66 May I ask to what broker you are going to put them and why? PLEASE
MEFFOOS
P.S. I may have to do the same thing.
Maybe I missed it, but why didn't the .006's show up on the EST exchanges of trades and shares thingy that PTRX2000 posted?
meffoos
That's a nice buy at .006.
meffoos
Craneman I do not want to come across as a know it all,but it is my understanding the Pavis shares will stay restricted until you file and pay what ever fee there is.So plan on, one of these days to file,you will have 90 days to sell,you might be one of the lucky few to catch a cover rally, who knows.
MEFFOOS
Diamond 77 When I talked to the TA they told me it was just 144 rule. the 144K has a differing twist to it, please help me here so we do the right procedure when it comes time to file thanks.
MEFFOOS
Tax Man I just called the TA office and Karen told me they sent the certs to TDA Thursday evening by Fed Ex overnight.Karen told me it is a 144 rule and you have 90 days to sell your shares and if you do not sell you have to refile and maybe repay the fee.Your 90 days does not start till TDA files with the SEC (NOT WHEN YOU FILE.)
Okay, my mistake on the phone numbers. I always scroll past them so fast I neglected to account for the them.
The main point was to start calling the company and letting them know that we are concerned about the lack of information.
thanks
meffoos
GBDX shareholders,
The time has come in which an answer must be given. We have been patient with the company for over 1 month since their last official PR and another month before that since their potential suiter PR. The price has continually been dropping and we still have no end in sight.
I am calling on all of you who have numbers of our TA and the GBDX company to post these numbers so we can call these places and get answers. We have money tied up in these stocks and we have waited our time. It is the companies turn to show us their hand.
POST THE NUMBERS SO WE CAN MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION ON WHAT TO DO WITH OUR INVESTMENT WITH GBDX.
This will save a multitide of shareholders alot of grief if this is not for real. A basic share price maybe still salvagable.
Thanks in advance.
meffoos
Tax man This problem did not happen over night.It started a year and a half ago in JPHC the crooks cellar boxed to the tune of over 5 billion naked short shares,then combine with buyout/merger with APO Health care,then name change to Pavis cusip number change more naked shorting PAVC(which were restricted) Then some careless brokers put reg shares in accs. instead of markers or restricted and caused a worse shorting mess. Now are you starting to see what a mess this it is?
MEFFOOS
Tax Man Your theory is half right .What really is the case is they can short and naked short any stock (referring to MM and brokers,hegde funds)if you have a margin account.But if you are concerned about being naked shorted put it in a cash account,I heard they can not short cash accounts.When you think there about 1500 brokers and 2000 MMs we are little fish in a big pond. MEFFOOS
Reptile I think you misunderstood, we have to file the 144 forms ourselves and pay $250 if you want to turn your markers into real shares.remember they stay restricted unless the company registers the shares or the company gives it a 144k and right now only insiders have that 144k which is free trading after 2 years. MEFFOOS
Sharky Once the (markers)shares are in your acc. you should call your broker and have them fax the 144 forms to you to fill out and mail them certified mail to your broker and what money to redo your cert shares to (real)shares.
Dallas66 It is my understanding when I talked to the TA that is strictly a 144,that means you can file the 144 forms after one year.If you do not file then they will stay restricted until you do.If it was a 144k the restricted shares would be free trading after 2 years. Meffoos
Vicsteele I just talked to Diane at the TA office and she told me that there hoping to get TDA certs out this week,and the classifacation is plainly 144.They are going to mail the certs by certified mail to the brokerages.So it might take 4 or 5 days to get to the brokers,then we can file our forms. MEFFOOS
Vicsteele I just got off the phone with TDA reorg they said it is up to the transfer agent what 144 rule they give it.There is 144K,says if you own it for more than 2 years then it will be free trading any thing less you have to file paper work on 144 with TDA reorg. MEFFOOS
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reptile The main thing is now the goverment has learned they can not let this massive shorting get any bigger than it already is,(it just about melted down the markets worldwide).So the SEC has been tightening up the rules twice already,once in FEB.and in April.One more rule change June 9th.and now they are talking canceling the GRANDFATHER CLAUSE by june 30th.There is talk of a new trading platform by end of August which will help average shareholders out.I could talk for hours about reforms,to make a short story long the shorters are being made to cover.Wether the shorters make deals with the companies or with MM to cover at the bid price,like they did to PAVC.I do not know how many brokerages that are not letting traders buy in open market on PAVC they do not want to start a feeding frenzy for day trading sharks(makes them pay more p/sh.So two can play this game HOLD ON TO YOUR PAVC SHARES as long as you can. MEFFOOS
Reptile I have to admit the forms can be a little hard to understand but I will call tues morn for answers.Your right if you have the cert in hand thenyou can send it in.Money wise TDA is $250 and to my understanding ETDR is $150,but Itrade with TDA.I was quiet surprised when I talked to the lady at the TA office that TDA was going to receive the certs and put them into my acc.I have been in this stock since I bought JPHC.I got to know Glenn (the IR guy)from JPHC and he told me then that JPHC had a short of 5.5 billion share short.Since then they got bought out by APO health products.Then a name change (paiv) then 200 to 1 reverse split and cusip # change.I remember hearing that Paivis was the #1 shorted stock on the OTCBB board.I beleive TDA is holding a very large short in this stock and JMCP CMKX and they wont let you buy or trade these stocks.The only reson I know this is my son tried to buy PAVC and would not let the trade go through. MEFFOOS
Taxman We are not going to receive the cert ourselves ,ameritrade will have it .I am to fill out as much as I can then I will call reorg dept. for info I need then fax it in to them.MEFFOOS
LP I am filling out my 144 forms as we speak.Once I fax my forms and pay $250 ,the reorg guy said it would take 2 to 4 weeks to get the new certs into my account.But the good part is TDA will have to make sure they are real shares and I do not care how much TDA has to pay for them in the open market.I know there is a major short in this stock.I have keeping track of daily volume since it was JPHC and my rough est.is 500000 to 700000 shares short . Meffoos
Lindy1401 your shares will remain restricted until the comp. registers them.If you file your 144 forms and pay the fee the brokerage firm will only put markers in your acc.This will force any brokerage to buy shares in the open market to put in your acc. thus making price to go up. Meffoos
Dont even get me started with this stock! WHAT A DISPOINTMENT AND DISGRACE! THE LEADERSHIP IN THIS COMPANY IS FOOLISH AND ILL-ADVISED ON WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS A GOOD IDEA, WHEN ALL IT TAKES IS A COUPLE PINKSHEET DAYTRADERS TO KNOW THAT THEIR REVERSE SPLIT WOULD NOT WORK!
meffoos
Just picked up another 1200 shares at .25. Doing my part to hold the price up and keep the upward trend on fire.
meffoos
Sharky & Leo restricted shares stay that way till the company registers them.Ameritrade reorg dept. has already faxed my 144 forms (6 pages)to fill out.All I have to do now is send the forms &$250 and in 3 weeks my shares will be real.Because right now they are just markers.Guess what who ever is short has to buy real shares and put them into my acc.( Meaning Ameriturd).Thats why you will see upticks in the future when we apply for our real shares. Meffoos
You are correct in your understanding of the 144 rule for 1% sale every 90 days. But, for the most part, that means that 1% is 300,000 shares. I will say for all, most people do not own more than that number of shares. So, for the majority, it is definately in their best interest to file for the 144 and pay the $250.00 to have their shares tradable.
meffoos
So if I am reading this right, Janice Shell is a loyal supporter of Frank and has full trust in the company and firmly holds to the recent press releases as solid truth.
hmmmm....
my take on her stance on the company is as far off as she is on what she is saying about the company.
Not meant to be a personal attack, but there comes a point in time in which we go from no volume and .0001 sub-level, and now we are receiving regular updates and deals signed, and the stock has market makers, a bid, and reaches .0002 often. Let's lay off the company for a while.
meffoos
For all to know ,I just talked to Emily at PAVC and LISA from the TA office ,Ameritrade and another major brokerage houses certs will be mailed out this fryday to the brokerage houses then in to your accs.They will remain restricted until you file a 144 form and pay 250.00 dallars, then they will be free trading shares
Meffoos
LOL!! Just wanted to clarify one thing..my dad posts under my name as well. He was trying to get shares this morning by using the broker. I own a lot of shares already. So when he said he wasn't able to get in at all, he was referring to himself, and not me. lol...
meffoos
Some body help me . Ican remember some one saying you can buy JMCP through TDameritrade if you call a broker so I did and mike my broker said it is on a no trading list So I can not get in at all. Meffoos