CNN said six were spotted in a raft. I hope.

I would think that the broker holds funds agianst the short, and you could be making interest on those funds. Maybe I should change brokers?

I wonder if they will delete this reply?

They deleted my last one. Do the brokers own this site?

Did you ever try P&F charts?

http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.pnf?chart=ARTA,PLPCDANRBO[PA][D][F1!3!12.0!!4!20]&pref=G

Target 8 cents!

(it is wave based)

For a safe recovery, and for their families concerns.

I do appreciate the warnings. I bought before Honest George came on. Back when the patents were pretty fresh, and just before the old lady sued.

People like you kept me from "averaging down" to zero.

I also learned the "Judicial Order" strategy of dilution from this stock. It is certainly a new strategy in how to print money.

Take a look at GZGT. They have adopted the "Wa hoppon?" strategy, and are printing even more shares.

ITRP has adopted the oldest strategy known to man:

The "blame the other guy" strategy.

The management here is very quiet. I have been quiet also. I was thinking about putting all of the info I have discovered up there in the Ibox, but I figure we will just stay quiet and pretend that the company doesn't exist.

If you would like to have some of the info, send a private message with your return email address. I don't have a premium Ihub account, so I can't reply here and keep it private.

I will be getting one pretty soon, just not today.

With as many visitors as this board has, It is pretty private to start with.

I had some difficulty getting that to load. they were supposed to recieve service fees from "securitization trusts." I would almost bet that those never materialized. That would likely be the place where the market became the tightest and caused the collapse. I hope Reiderer read that report, and the FBI knows what it means. I really don't think that Orr is any more crooked than any other mortgage brokers.

If he was doing the right thing, It would be a shame if he and the insurance people don't get a bail out.

Look who bailed the country out of tornadoes, floods, hurricanes, and 9/11: INSURANCE

I guess I should say "following the law." Nobody was "doing the right thing."

Timbeeeeeeeeer!

And for you do-it-yourself'ers.

http://www.budgetllcformation.com/llcformationNevada.htm

"The sample limited liability company operating agreements included in the Do-It-Yourself LLC Formation kits were written by Carl Baranowski."

I love the name game. Google can find a lot of people, even CEO's

Joe the plumber, and he could probably do a better job.

At least he could fix the pipe dream.

The media fuels the greed/fear machine. Only the government can restore the trust. They can't do it by making a scapegoat out of Madoff. They need to clean the whole house.

It doesn't help much when every new appointment has a "tax problem"

It was. Many learned from that mistake, and now have only fear.

That is why the need for trust.

JPM has a book value of 35 ish. Why doesn't the market trust the number?

GMAC got $6 billion in bailout, but their bonds are still selling as junk.

Might get a Kwave double top in less than five years. I think it depends on whether the politicians can figure out how the market works, and stop destroying confidence, IMHO

Hope won't bring the buyers in. It requires trust.

Last trade Jan 22

Yes, but it does seem to give you a heads up on the movement. Trading isn't easy when the buyers aren't there, but when they return to your stock, it will narrow. If they ever return.

I think a lot of spreads are getting wide. CNBC commented on a "buyer's strike." I think that is a sure sign that not many people want to buy. Most of us are pretty tired of getting ripped off.

At least you have learned how to spot a pump and to choose your battles. I actually appreciate your input when you supply factual details.

Thanks for sticking with us. Chase the pumpers any time you feel like it.

But if you get burned trying to bite my exhaust pipe, don't blame me.

yes, you guys are right that they are separate companies. I am not so sure that ARTA had it's ducks in a row, and that why it was seized and Reiderer was appointed. Shortly after the appointment, Reiderer had to sit and watch as the FBI came in and grabbed the books for evidence of foulplay. We are still waitng for a report on whether the books have been returned and any evidence was found.

That's my two cents.

You should see my ideas.

They were featured last month at pipeddreams.com

We don't need any volume at all. What we need is Reiderer to make a statement on legal details and solvency.

He can borrow my CIK number if he wants to file an 8k:)

It might be asking to much for a politician to know anything about Reg FD. Especially a democrat.

If "anyone" would like to send me a private message, please include a return email address. I can be encouraged into confidentiality.

What is really amazing?

It took me less than $200 to move the ask from .006 to .009

I don't know what that translates to in Chinese Yuan, but I have a feeling that the two are related.

I should have paid more attention instead of making wisecracks. Very nice!

Now you can buy me a drink!

Did they go for bailout funds too?

I see they are financial services.

Is that the "Deer" old company?

Nice pick. I put in on my watch list, and read the news. They are getting their hands dirty with bailout money. That is good dirt. You could grow something in that soil.

The normal scheme of Chapt 11 is when a large debtor comes in, and converts his bonds to stock at a much higher price than the stock is trading at, but in the process takes over the company. That could be anywhere from 25-95% of the outstanding stock. He might wish to maintain the preference of a portion of his bonds based on his evaluation of the actual business model and the ability to take over without owning a lot of the stock.

Various forms of preffered stocks and options are typically introduced in the better schemes. Many schemes are introduced which simply represent something like pulling pants down and opening a bottle of vaseline for the shareholders. It really depends on the social responsibility of the major players and the process of win-win negotiations and whether they wish to simply make money, or would rather develop future business relationships.

The more the shareholder gets screwed, the closer we come to the end of the stock market as a valid concept for capitalization and investment.

What can't be confirmed?

That reiderer has any interest in assisting the taxpayers?

He is considering a run for Mayor.


He should talk to some party affiliates and get a Debtor-in-Posession package ready for the courts and bail out some of the insurance agencies.

Those people are losing their ass-ets.

One thing is "almost certain." It is very rare, but not unheard of, for a court to approve predatory dilutive financing. When I heard of a court do that, I became very disinterested in the stock market, and almost gave it up completely.

HYRF was the stock. The court ordered dilution, and nobody mentioned in press releases. Such should have been a violation of Reg FD, but nobody sued the court.

Courts will creat a dilutive scheme of up to 90% outside financing, and large reverse splits., but in the HYRF case, they seemed to throw all caution to the wind, and it appeared as if a "vulture capital" dilution.

It depends on what they have and what they know.

The hearing is mostly about Brook capital.

Reiderer will be appearing as "trustee," I believe in our interest. He was appointed "Special Master" in the liquidation proceedings of Aleritas. Brook own 60% of ARTA, and with the Special Master on the ARTA side, he would attempt to help finance Brook to solvency without endangering ARTA. If ARTA is considered insolvent, then he might consider attempting to gain bridge financing from an outside source, including goverment bailout funds.

Reom what I have seen of the situation, there are insurance agencies who have closed their doors as a result of this BK, and it would serve the American Taxpayers to restructure this debt and bring at least ARTA into solvency.

Write your congressman.

I don't plan on stopping. A bit too early for a drink though.

Scheduled:

http://www.ksb.uscourts.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=476:march-20-2009-at-130-pm&catid=59:brooke-corporation-scheduling-information&Itemid=72

Have you been drinking?...................


Hig UP? No offisher. Shertainly not.

Say hello to Big Al.

http://www.politicker.com/kansas/tags/albert-riederer

Interesting. Somebody bought up all of those shares, and still there are no filings.

They didn't get enough for a 13d, but if they were an insider, they changed more than 1%.


Very strange. An investor. ie speculator? Maybe they thought it was ACITX?

I could even take a very negative announcement. They could announce that they lost a few million but that the equity is intact and that they have some cash to ride it out.

If they lost half the equity, isn't this thing worth a buck and a half?

you must have patience to snatch the pebble from the hand of this old blind man, grasshopper.

But if you drink the Ma huoang and combine it with the opium, expect to see the evil spirits of Wall Street in full detail, whether you are blind, or sighted.

No hype on the news item?

Isn't OOIL shilling here?

I guess not. Good on them.

As many as they dare to print. Read up on the railroads in the 1920's and how the fat cats took the companies by printing shares. In those days, they actually had to pay for a printing press. Thanks to the wonders of the internet....


Well, lets just say the Chinese have a kung fu grip on the pinkies.

I have a feeling that if the CEO takes his head out of his hands, and wakes up, he can make shorty commit hari karey unless he already sold the farm to some predatory lending puppet.

Maybe it's time to wake up and smell the Ma houang.

I will wait for Lifegear comments on this. I think he knows something about the $5 million note.

It is a startup without enough cash to call a "blank check."

OOIL did an offering in '07 and took in about $3 million and turned it into $54 million market cap.

They will be at the conference I was talking about, and made an announcement about their breakthrough today.

http://www.infocastinc.com/index.php/conference/algae09

I don't actually think they have "the stuff." I read enough of their site to believe they are a bit short.

Just the same, some of the hints he gave in the announcement are encouraging.

Good job!! They actually stated that the shares are retired. Sorry for picking out the most critical point of the story and leaving out the creative embellishments.