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Well I can understand the concerns and the wait being longer than people expected. But Dan does talk. He is talking all the time it appears. From the White paper where WSTI is mentioned to the videos where WSTI is mentioned to the question and answers he has given on Telegram and in private conversations with some here. When you are raising money and things are happening you have to be a bit more careful for legal reasons.
People here might be use to the kind of craziness that goes on where a CEO gets on twitter starts talking nonsense and people have something to hang their hat on. Like AAGC.. or many many others. But this is not that type of stock.
We all want the same thing. And yesterday couldnt be soon enough, I know, we all feel that way. But it is better to have all the ducks in a row and money in place to make it a real story than to just piecemeal things and have a blowback.
News can come next week, next month, a few months. Over the coming weeks we should find out more about who is going public etc, we should also know about ImpactPPA money raise etc.
I think part of the wait has been figuring out the best way or best entity to fund etc..If WSTI raises no cash its actually better for us, maybe ImpactPPA is one of the privates going public with money infused. Then we open up and run. Maybe that is near final now? Who knows the exact story.
If we are on track the stock will keep trading like it did Friday. ticks on the ask, move up gradually a bit etc..
We all want good things. At least we know when we get something here what the potential is and that it is real.
They are not in the public sale yet, but the pre-sale has sold some. I believe in US you need to be accredited investor and min is 10k or more. There are bonus tokens given in the first 7 million raised.
Hard to say what will happen with token once issued, usually early investors sell the bonus tokens and since the crypto meltdown early in the year prices fell below the opening prices. Usually best time to consider them is when you can buy less once they trade, and after they dip. But definitely not an expert here. Just based on what I see.
When I said open up the bar I mean the cooler! LOL
Are you American Indian? I am part (like 1/8th)..
If this flies and we have the party... and if Dan chooses to attend, talk with him about it, I bet he knows people that can get that picked up for you!
Dan knows everyone. He is worldwide CEO. With Dan you can have a company in India make them, a consultant in Haiti marketing them using power he purchased on the blockchain and then you can drive on the highway WSTI is lighting up in Argentina in your new gold lambo once you get paid for your idea ;)
Skinny's gold lambo
Your new car
Congrats on the patent! Sounds like an excuse to open up that bar ;) LOL
Maybe people will be investing in your company someday !
As of the last info we have the 3rd qtr 2015 form 10Q . WSTI owned 55% of the India operation.
As that statement shows.. all sales and expenses are included on the WSTI financials and then the 45% of the net effect is backed out on a line on the income statement as minority interest.
So if things have stayed the same .. Windstream India sells 10 million in stuff. that 10 million gets reported as sales on WSTI books. Then if they netted 1 million after all expenses . 45% of that net gets backed out on the income statement. See that 10Q for how it is done
I think he is referring to the stream of electricity revenue coming from the power projects on the Impact end.
This is complicate but try to follow me as WSTI makes money all kinds of ways as does ImpactPPA
ImpactPPA
1-Can Use own funds either from coin raise or IPO and fund projects. Both projects on the WSTI list or other projects it finds. Once project is built, the PPA (power purchase agreement) pays ImpactPPA for years for the electricity produced. High profit margins
2- It has had inquiries regarding other people using their smart meters (licensing revenue potential)
WSTI makes money when
1- IMPACTPPA uses their equipment (capital cost of setting up system)
2- Licensing fees
3- WSTI can sell /does sell their own systems worldwide
4- WSTI can share in revenues on ImpactPPA projects (as in the whitepaper)
5- WSTI can get its own financing then finance deals to get paid to build projects in their pipeline. For example 10PWR.com finances the build (WSTI gets paid), then ImpactPPA can insure payment to financier (a whole game changer in itself for 3rd world finance companies)
Between the large WSTI shareholder and that guy in the middle east that was bugging me for a year about them I think the Towermills alone are a huge , huge market... at least tens of millions of dollars just to start..
Remember WSTI had a 160 million dollar market cap back when it had 2-3 million a year in sales and a pile of debt, and a pipeline probably 1/4 to 1/3 where it is today..
And that pipeline you read about now that is before WSTI gets this rolling.. I know two projects WSTI was in the loop on that can be restarted through one contact of mine. So the pipeline will grow dramatically as IMPACTPPA and WSTI get out there, well funded and do these deals etc..
We believe part of WSTI going dark was to stop the conversions of notes. Also they had trouble getting financing and decided to work on the restructuring. In hindsight the plan seems to have worked.
I am sure they are well aware of the filings and other updates you seek.
Many of us have been here since 2015 , mostly in this dark period. But we are within weeks or a few months of finally coming out. It could be days who knows. but if we get to October and nothing happens then we can start going crazy. Things take time. People have notified the lawyer and management about the filings and I think the response was "they were on it"
Just because people want something does not make it happen. WE get a lot of really good info.
Compared to other stock on the OTC here that people clamor for , we have more revenues, more contact with the CEO, 1000x more potential and a world class team.
# of other subpenny stock CEOS that spoke at the UN ?? probably ZERO
# of other subpenny stocks with products in 40 countries? probably zero
# of other subpenny stocks with a legit crypto angle , working demo, and world class team? Probably zero.
Right now, we have a very short time horizon... all the pieces seem to be in place. Every stock has risks. For people that need to get out , sell. Then have a chase fund when things are cleaned up more to your liking. Lots of new faces will show up buying then and wont know all you know about how high this can go.
Anything is possible but I do not think so. Would be very complicated and he needs both companies separate.
But this does not mean we are out of the loop. As ImpactPPA goes forward I am sure there will be ways to get involved there as well.
Also on SUTTS awesome video...
Financing for 430 million dollars in projects in the Caribbean . Wonder who that is? LOL
Looks like our Intel is top notch here!
The man , SUTT comes through in the clutch with the best video yet.
Thousands of towermills, 430 million in project financing for projects not even on the 186 MW project list yet.
Look like Rock needs some tickets his drink bill gonna be huge at the party!
But WSTI is only stage 1 here. Newly flush with cash we can probably make money on Impact either tokens or IPO etc. Not to mention the dozens of ideas we have and the push for a small airdrop for investors.
Stay positive and remember the opening song for party night...
Ive got th Power
Ill fly to Haiti and dance with some local (and hopefully a few ladies that look much better to distract attention away LOL) to this song as the switch is thrown baby...
That video SUTT posted talks about thousands of Towermills (WSTI products). The towermills are the product some of the smartest people I know in this stock love the most. All over the world there are remote cell towers, many running on diesel, others without reliable electricity and at super high rates for electricity. Perfect product . Tens of millions of dollars in sales potential just with this one product..
I agree. Most people here have not seen the Bates press release machine in action. They will be shocked. You have seen some of their project videos and other materials from the past. Wait til the new ones pop!
We gotta be very close here. Like others have mentioned, we most likely see some sort of slow drift up prior to the releases and news.
Trading in WSTI since it woke up has been a new one since there was no bid for so long and then we couldnt get confirmation in time to sustain the rally. It will run even harder this next time because lots of people got out of shares, and some are in over .0001. Also if I am reading the bar charts correctly there is about 750 million accumulated over the last 3 months.
Most likely , this time around we could find an order imbalance and gap up. Might make things easier than timing things LOL (not good at that).
Before this stock even moved off the 1s I always said Dan was a survivor. One thing I liked is he brought those people back to work in Indiana not once but twice.
He went dark doing 3.5 million or so in 2015, then did like 8-10 million in 2016.
So many solar companies went bankrupt and went under during those years with low oil prices and a weak economy.
I really hope this success story finishes up as we expect here. It is hitting all the major things. Climate change, 3rd world job growth, crypto... I just hope it does not take too much more time as I worry that external events can change at any time and when you have that window you gotta take it, that window is now...
One of the biggest holders of WSTI stock says the towermill product alone is worth a billion dollars.
Back when WSTI had just a handful of us talking about it. We were digging everywhere. I had posted to Windstreams facebook page, talked to people that had systems etc. Out of nowhere due to all the posts I made I got contacted by someone in the UAE saying he was an engineer and was trying to reach the company but had no luck. He was literally crazy to get this product there.
Great find there SUTT!
Talking about Windstream , hybrid, how the systems work for on and off grid. Good stuff!
Related to my last post. WSTI has one big thing going for it. They have tech contacts all over the world experiences in installing solar and hybrid projects.
Jamaica, India, Haiti, various countries in Africa, Argentina, Peru, US, Bahamas, Middle east etc...
While people do not often think of this, they have worked in 40 countries and know the ropes, have people that can help them are familiar with logistics in getting product places etc..
I agree with all that but one thing is being missed here.
Some of the projects (go back to look at the list in the white paper)are SOLAR only. This would involve WSTI obtaining the best panels using a discount for large purchases with no manufacturing needed. Some projects have a combination of both technologies.
But the panels part can be done pretty quickly. other tech added as needed.
So it is possible that they can handle a bunch of work pretty quickly
Great post and great background there!
I agree with your analysis. I think the public sale for the tokens is coming up, they raised some money already through the initial stages. One the public sale is done I think the tokens will trade.
IF all goes well here I am going to see if they can do small airdrop at the WSTI party.. I know its a longshot but why not, you got people that just made a bunch of money, all that know what you are about, great way to seed some out there.
Gonna run something by you soon given your experience.. will benefit everyone here..
Well for 9 months of 2015 (reported on 10Q) we were at like 2.7 million, probably finished the year around 3.5 million.
In 2016 we can pretty much confirm due a very large project in Argentina that they did between 8-10 million.
No real visibility on what happened in 2017/2018 but with India running there had to be some sales.
It is funny , someone announces that crazy drone stock got a 650,000 dollar contract and people go nuts LOL We talking millions here!
Also keep in mind the whitepaper list shows a bunch of projects totalling 186 MW of power.
Notice what is not on there? The India deal. That is over and above the project list total.
Then these projects are DESPITE ImpactPPA being pretty new and WSTI having all these difficulties we are well aware of.
When any combination of funding happens (IPO, Coin Raise, financing etc) and things get on a sound footing work will pile on top of all that as well.
Just one guy I know alone could add a ton to that pile. HE knows Dan, and the company and you have to realize that pipeline is huge considering all this company has been through etc..
Anyone can follow the basics of the court case on the link below. There has been nothing new since March, and that was just replacement of the plantiff attorney.
The case is long overdue for a ruling of some kind. However if parties are negotiating a settlement it could be on hold with plaintiff keeping the legal options open until such deal is done etc..
here is the link.
Lg vs Windstream
If something breaks ill pay for the documents (just a few bucks) to get them.
Need Plumber For Faucet stuck in Time Warp...
The CarMax fountain due to fill my cup last night shortly after midnight was stuck on "you already claimed plus1 in the last 24hours etc". All faucets were tapped about the same time the prior night so I checked the wallet for the times. I tried a bunch of times no luck. Tried again this morning, same thing.
Anyway to unstick this one so I can put my cup under it? LOL
Sounds like a solid plan to me.
Good luck!
Thank you for posting and clearing that up! Awarded you plUs1 mr plus1me for you assistance ;)
hope to see you posting from time to time!
Good luck on your crypto...
Come on man, realizing that I am not really Dan Bates, or FIFE or any of their enablers..it might be too much to handle I know.. but ... you sitting on piles of cash.. you can afford to buy some drinks!
Just think you get to see the radio controlled blimp airdrop tokens!
This is all about you!! no?
yeah you said August 1st, and its you buy 1 round of drinks at the party for each day that goes by after that without suspension!
Certainly looking forward to your party appearance, so will everyone else since you will be buying! ;)
Except that there is because it is in the white paper and Dan said so LOL
Also that is just PART of WSTI
The project list has 186MW of power projects. (and by the way that does NOT include INDIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) but any way that is between 1 million and 1.2 million PER megawatt (rough calculation confirmed with a solar guy).
figure just 1 to make it easy. That project list is 186 million NOT COUNTING INDIA
WSTI has business all over the world. It is not just talk you can see projects with your own two eyes that they have completed in
Africa
Argentina
Haiti
Jamaica
India
And many smaller projects all over as seen on the website and on youtube.
And I heard through a few contacts there are a few once close megadeals that can perhaps rehatch in South Africa and the Phillipines.
Combined those two areas could be as high as about 120MW or maybe more
Welcome to the board and best of luck with your holdings!
Double Eric. Are you talking about the white paper?
Excited not only for us but for the people in India. I have watched how their solar charka project has helped people, there are videos on youtube.
Good post Pennies!
I agree and do not feel like you need to share private conversations with people. There is nothing top secret being passed along but it is sometimes good to respect relationships. I have not spoken to him on the phone but asked those few key questions early on on telegram.
Good digging Frank and best of luck with your stock!
Sure they do... 24 of the last 25 trades were buys at .0006
Evidence here..
Trades
I wont be home to my cooler until later this evening but the Edison style party bulbs and cooler will be cranked up around 8pm ;)
(bulbs look like this from ebay seller afewofyourfavoritethings)
lights
Gonna give away a crystal ball soon. Well I use it take pictures..
I took this picture with mine..
Hammonasset State Park
Just in case this is not the dud some people been saying it is. People plan for the good scenario as well.
Lets just say it works out and all goes well. We have a party, you meet some really great , bright people. Just got off the phone with one . Great contacts etc.. Then maybe we use some our winnings to do a test site for a solarmill project (small one) where we get paid by the blockchain. Things pay back in 2-3 years in some locations 4-5 in others..
So you chip in a 100 bucks 1,000 bucks test it out for those 20-30% returns. If it is what we think there is a lot of money to be made in that area. Or in selling them in areas with new crypto mining electricity rates going into effect. crypto Minings biggest cost is electricity.. First contractor I showed this too a few years back wanted to install them, but when he called he would have needed to get a trailer full at the time etc.. people are interested in this..
So many ways to make more money down the road.
I am hoping to hook Bates up with the Water guy as they both have a lot in common and with the sanitizer company. Just a few ideas.
When this flies projects will be flying.
threshold is somewhere about where FIFE had to file around 350 million or so based on 9.99% of OS on the last 8k
Not sure how family attribution rules work but some is multiple people.
I worry just as much as anyone here.
I am also a crappy trader. Most of us long term people here had pretty much written this off but kept discussing it. It woke up and here we are. If I was smarter I would have sold it all at .0028, then bought back. Instead I sold some, then bought back so im basically in the same position LOL
But it is easier for people who were here since .0001 to be a bit less nervous. But man do we know a lot more than we did then.
Some people here have 150-200 million shares and they are very smart people. They know the risks, as do I . I feel I only stuck with this due to all the DD from people that are very bright here and from the digging from new people that turned up some gems.
Nothing is guaranteed here, as in any stock. This one has higher risks than many stocks as well. But at least we know projects are real and things are happening. Lots of stocks you just hear stories from CEOs that cant spell who are selling their own stock.
My friends can tell you I panic with the best of them. No one wants to see gains evaporate or in some cases losses widen .
Now that is a very good and valid question..
Looks like a real lot of stock is already owned based on the A/D line. People judge risk, maybe they already own what they feel comfortable with until news comes out.
If you are not a believer (not just you , anyone) and sold or hate it here, then one strategy is to wait til news comes out and know how to chase it and where it might land. That takes a lot of risk out of it. Even if you paid 5 or even 10 ticks higher in the long run if it goes way up at least you didnt take a chance before news and limited to the downside risk.
Well that is because they play the 2 tick game, or possibly shares just being sucked out of the market.
None of those huge buys to flip were ever able to sell so either
1- people are trying to accumulate lower to eventually raise the ask create a fake run and get out
2-someone doesnt care about selling and is just trying to buy lots of stock through various trading strategies
It is all ok with me, all traders welcome, buys and sells, creates liquidity, gets people out etc..
I want everyone to make money. Not sure how much certain people need to make to be happy but hope they make that much , things would be easier ;) LOL
Hey some of us have been here and invested over 2 1/2 years.
This stock woke up all on its own. Once people put the pieces together some of the same people bashing now were pumping it on other boards. Some are here for the long ball. Others to trade in and out.
How it all got started!! Proof is in the pudding. documented here
Alerts sent
Here is a good post!!
Filings coming!
and another
WSTI a thing of beauty!
talk of merger/buyout@!!!
Holy cow!!
Reading all these , what do you all think? LOL
As for MODI , that was an announcement in a press release by ImpactPPA. It been delayed, not cancelled.
"News" out soon, shortly, solid plan was directly from the CEO..
New stock issuance rumors proved wrong by calling the TA
Good job selling at higher levels. I myself am not a very good trader.
yes I do , that made sense because it was going up :) Always a ton on the bid on rising stocks with huge runs..
Hopefully people can load the boats where they need to here.