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You want to join this, FG? Because I will go against you too.
Filing (2) separate SEC complaints isn't suing anyone.
I'm not trying to recup my money as said tons of times before. I take it as a learning loss. I'm filing (2) SEC complaints in mid-February and I don't owe anyone information of what I have.
Bullstuff, Russ. How on earth can you blame me for the stock being down!!!!!!!!!!! Absolutely silly!!! There you go again. Placing the blame of the company's failure on someone else and taking the blame away from David Saltrelli.
David Saltrelli has everything to do with the success or failure of the company and that's the only person that affects the failures and success of the company.
I will stop if Russ stops pointing the finger at Cen-1. I stopped before. Everything's fine then Russ starts pointing the figure at Cen-1 again, as before, and I have a big problem with that. There is no evidence of that. To me, he's trying to place the blame somewhere else.
Russ, You don't get it. I'm not showing you anything nor do I have to. I don't care what you think. I do not agree with your views. I believe your views are very skewed. Especially when it comes to defending David Saltrelli. You try so hard to defend his actions when he has done nothing. You to so hard to defend him when all he does is stall. You said the other day that David Saltrelli has done monumental achievements for the company and I'm trying to figure out where you see this? You try so hard to pump the stock when nothing is there to pump. None of it makes sense to me.
Pump all you want but when David Saltrelli doesn't accomplish anything he has stated would be done by the first week of January and the stock doesn't go up by the beginning of February, what are you going to say then? It's a little late or he's doing it right now, or...what? (13) days till the evidence is in.
Whatever, Russ. I have listed 45 company's and I have the connections with all the names. I also have locations of the company's and quite a few were located at the same address where NSL is located. I haven't shown you all the information I have and it doesn't matter what you know about what I have.
You are way out there and you're a teacher? Damn.
David Saltrelli pumped it the initial time to get investors. He didn't have any and needed them. I don't care if he said he never paid for a pump. That certainly doesn't mean he's telling the truth. He hasn't been honest with anyone so far. Nothing in October when he promised things. Nothing at the beginning of January as he promised.
How do you come up with Cen-1 paying for the first pump when there is No reason to? If you go that route then you have to think about EVERYONE and ANYONE on this planet paid for the pump! Not just taking the heat off your boss, David Saltrelli.
David Saltrelli is an idiot. He releases a PR at 5:00pm on a Friday!! What do you call that? Strategic? No. He didn't change the ticker in the middle of a pump. Changed it afterwards. The pump was August 1 and only one pump. The ticker changed after that to take heat off the company for pumping the stock the first two times. I've told you that already.
Your logic pertains to anyone what so ever. Not only David Saltrelli or Cen-1. ANYONE!!!!! Anyone could have paid for a pump, invested the money, took the profit and done. ANYONE!!!!
If you want to look at it like you are, lets go with anyone but do not continue to say Cen-1 when your logic points to EVERYONE ON EARTH. I can say David Saltrelli because I break it down that far. It has the possiblity to only pertain to David Saltrelli. Yours, possiblity of being anyone and everyone, you NSL pumper for David Saltrelli.
Here it is again but you can't seem to wrap your brain around the practical, logical views. It all has to be, "just because."
Cen-1 did not do the first pump. They did not have a reason to. They were owed money by David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster and they have to be paid on the loan. They had not converted the shares until the end of August. The first pump was in March. David and Peter did it to lure investors into NSL for their own benefit. Who else would have done it????
The second pump was done on August 1. Right at the same time David Saltrelli was trying to convince Cen-1 to convert the loan to shares. David Saltrelli pumped the second time to show Cen-1 that a conversion would be worth their while. The conversion to shares did not happen until the end of August. Over three weeks after the pump. Highly doubt Cen-1 would pump it to bring the share price down. It would have gone down on it’s own as it has.
Pump and dump the ticker to change the association of the company as a pump and dump. He can pump it as a different company. To apply more rationale to that, he changed the company from a shell company on the 25 of July which is right around the same time as the ticker change to wash his hands from the whole association from the pumping. With practical, logical, factual information, Cen-1 didn't have anything to do with the ticker change or changing it from a shell company so what does that possibly have to do with Cen-1 at all? It doesn't so that view certainly doesn't fly at all. David Saltrelli had everything to do with the ticker and shell company change.
David Saltrelli promised investors of several business strategies to make the company more visible which in turn caused current investors to invest more in hopes to cost average down their initial investment and to accrue potential investors.
That's strange, Russ. When I say something I have to back it up with fact and I do. When you say something you don't have to back it up and you never do. That seems very unfair to me but then again you do work for David Saltrelli and do defend him and back him up all the time so I imagine that is what you consider good enough for you since it is for David Saltrelli.
Ohhhh. Shooo, I thought I was seeing flat lines in my eyes
Are you looking at the same thing? I say a stale flat line? Am I looking at the right thing?
That's bad. A flat line during what should be the busiest time of the year. At least for shopping.
I do not think nor do I expect to get my money back. I am doing it to cease him from doing it again and to make aware to the SEC of David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster and their 45 company's in 20 years.
I know I can file it. I have done the research on what needs to be done and I will file in Mid-February. I have done enough research where, if I do not file, I'm wasting my time. I have done enough research to know that I will file two separate SEC complaints. One is for penny stocks. I will not tell you the second one. Has more impact.
I have given you an extremely rational reason why David Saltrelli pumped both times and I have given you an extremely rational, logical and informative reason why Cen-1 did not pump the stocks but you keep ignoring what I post and ask me to prove it.
Here you go again, Russ;
Cen-1 did not do the first pump. They did not have a reason to. They were owed money by David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster and they have to be paid on the loan. They had not converted the shares until the end of August. The first pump was in March. David and Peter did it to lure investors into NSL for their own benefit. Who else would have done it????
The second pump was done on August 1. Right at the same time David Saltrelli was trying to convince Cen-1 to convert the loan to shares. David Saltrelli pumped the second time to show Cen-1 that a conversion would be worth their while. The conversion to shares did not happen until the end of August. Over three weeks after the pump. Highly doubt Cen-1 would pump it to bring the share price down. It would have gone down on it’s own as it has.
Pump and dump the ticker to change the association of the company as a pump and dump. He can pump it as a different company. To apply more rationale to that, he changed the company from a shell company on the 25 of July which is right around the same time as the ticker change to wash his hands from the whole association from the pumping. With practical, logical, factual information, Cen-1 didn't have anything to do with the ticker change or changing it from a shell company so what does that possibly have to do with Cen-1 at all? It doesn't so that view certainly doesn't fly at all. David Saltrelli had everything to do with the ticker and shell company change.
Yeah, I should tell everyone what information I'm using to file the SEC complaints just like you should tell everyone what Wito said?
I don't have to show you any fact for my SEC filings.
Never said he sold shares and he can't until his restriction is lifted.
He makes a salary off NSL. Never said NSL is where he made his money.
And, finally, ask David Saltrelli if you want to know how much money is in his account. He will tell you.
You're messing but I'm am willing to play the game.
He got it from all his prior pumping ventures. He got it from silent investors. That has nothing to do with anything about where he got it. You have NO idea his financial situation. He had enough money for years from tons of business ventures. He had over 45 company's in 20 years.
How much does David Saltrelli have in his private bank account? Do you know? I'm sure not. He had enough to travel across the country for a few months? That ain't cheap.
Try Again!!!
You are digging deep but so far you have nothing.
That's funny about you accusing me of shorting NSL. Here's a link to pumpsanddumps.com about pumpers stating others on the board are shorting the stock.
http://www.pumpsanddumps.com/p/its-pump-dump.html
Look at numbers 11 and 12. It's you in the mirror. Number 4 is always good for measure.
You must have gone to school for it?
Doesn't matter who you are and where you went to school. It' doesn't even matter what you do for a living or if you are retired. You can still receive all those shares you have by pumping a stock. That's why pumpers like Wito want the stock to go up. That's their salary. Their nest egg.
Not true at all. Hope so but not true
That's way farther then what I have in e-mail and on previous words from you on this board. I can and might as well post you posting again. Maybe it will refresh your memory?
You just said David Saltrelli's word is good. In FACT, you posted some major BS a couple days ago that says to trust David and that he's very honest or some crap like that. Whole bunch of BS. Comment on this so it will give me a reason to bring up that posting from a couple days ago. You contradict what you say on a daily basis. Trying to play, understanding, but really just pumping.
I think you kept pushing people to invest more. You told people to average cost down their investments to make more money when the company shoots to the moon. It's in everyone's best interest. Sounds like a pumper to me!
Mid-February. That's giving him enough time to do what he stated. That's it!
You do not know everything going way back. In FACT, you said you didn't know anything until after the first pump. In FACT, you said, almost quote, I don't know what to think about anything that happened before July. I wasn't invested with NSL at that time and then you try to tell people what is what even though you admit you didn't know about the company until July. Doesn't make sense.
David Saltrelli has not made any promises good. You are pumping and I really believe you work for David Saltrelli.
I definitely do not agree with you and will not run my FACTS by you. I do not agree with your views and I think they are extremely skewed.
Mid-February. No later.
Pumps are not the best bet in the money market. If you read any of the million's sold books. All of them say to invest in long term healthy, well-known company's. The penny purchases are quick but you have to know what you are doing and anyone on this board is obviously here because they don't know what they are doing.
Nonsense. A pump and dump is a company that using these penny pumping companies to pump their stock and nothing else. If you pay for a ad campaign even once through one of those penny pumping companies, technically, you are a pumper and usually a dumper. Plus, if you did the research on all of the company's they list on that site, I guarantee you, most of them are exactly that.
I personally love the site and believe it it's purpose too.
They are merely advising people what is right for them to know.
There is a section of the SEC that deals strictly with penny stocks and that's it. I can and will file two separate SEC filings. I have done my research and as I said before, will not waste it. They aren't that smart. I have 45+ company's in 20 years. Over 2 company's a year and have some serious fraudulent information that I have been holding back so David Saltrelli or Peter Schuster can not possibly cover it up. They have slipped enough and have gotten comfortable about it.
Already have everything I need. I have spent some time and effort in this and not going to do it for nothing.
I was thinking about you using, "David Saltrelli didn't do it because the ticker was changed." I can use that same excuse for Cen-1. And then I started thinking about it, and with practical, logical, factual information, Cen-1 didn't have anything to do with the ticker change or changing it from a shell company so what does that possibly have to do with Cen-1 at all? It doesn't so that view certainly doesn't fly at all. David Saltrelli had everything to do with the ticker and shell company change.
Still waiting... It's not easy to prove what you say and so far I have done it ALMOST every time and you have done it NONE.
Not going after NSL. I'm going after David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster. I'm not only going to use NSL as an example but all 45+ company's. It's all going to be lumped together and I will let everyone know when I do it in February, not that anyone cares but game on. Within 1 month.
That's true. In fact, that even makes a lot more sense. Pump and dump the ticker to change the association of the company as a pump and dump. He can pump it as a different company. To apply more rationale to that, he changed the company from a shell company on the 25 of July which is right around the same time as the ticker change to wash his hands from the whole association from the pumping.
Thank you, Dreamhouse!!!
Absolutely. Why not? Seems these penny stocks are not monitored like the big boy stocks. Too many. Good example of lack of attention is the dude that is doing the WRIT & AMWI, or whatever it is?
Is that all you have? What does that have to do with anything at all? Please expand that rationale because that means nothing. At that point you could say David Saltrelli didn't pay for it because he changed the company from a, "shell company." Or better yet, David Saltrelli didn't pay for any because he breaths. That's even better. Yea, that's the ticket.
Word and that means, "I concur," for those who don't know?
This is funny. David Saltrelli paid for the first 2 pumps and I have given a very practical, logical and informative reason why he paid for the first two pumps. No one can give any other rational reason why anyone else would have done it? Still waiting...
Who are you going to believe?
A. People on this board who have lost monies on multiples of penny stocks. Who have constantly and continuously dodged proving facts of why they say what they say but yet, continue to ask me to prove myself as I continue to do so, breaking it down clearly and practically.
B. People that make guesses of what David Saltrelli's next moves are and have no basis for these opinions.
C. A CEO who has promised publicly throughout the last year, especially in October when things were in the fire and nothing happened and again in December for January and so far nothing?
D. Someone who said, "accomplish certain landmark things this month," but still waiting to see what, if anything, was accomplished? and still trying to figure out what these "landmark accomplishments are??"
E. People continue to defend David Saltrelli and try to take the blame from him and put it on others that I have given a very reasonable answer why they didn't pump the first two times and have given per stated from a reputable website why CEO's pump to get back some of their lender's losses.
Read this link and tell me who it sounds like;
http://www.pumpsanddumps.com/p/its-pump-dump.html
Dead company. Every single day the stock drops. The only reason it's not back down to the low .02s and perhaps even the .01s is because people on this board continue to purchase more because of what David Saltrelli tells them. I can't figure out WHY people continue to listen to someone that has lied sooooo many times from the get-go! Lied about everything.
Answer me this; one of your friends tells you things and time after time you continue to find out it's all lies. You actually stop listening to what he says and in some cases stop talking to him. This is the same but much worse. No one knows the dude and the actual distance between everyone and him makes it that much more easy to separate ourselves from what he says but...a lot of you just don't get it?
All of the yea-sayers continue to believe what they want and ignore what is right in front of them. We have all been had.
I believe David Saltrelli has lied once again and a good one at that. Promising people indirectly for another stall.
Has anyone heard anything about any of his promises? Maybe not a lie but words from people they know. Not because they get anything out of it but because David Saltrelli told them so?
B.S. Fool me once, shame on me fool me twice, I'm going to file 2 SEC complaints and not have to be fooled anymore but rectify the situation by Mid-February.
Watch me now!!!!!!!!
Cen-1 DID NOT pump it before. It WAS David Saltrelli or a third person doing it for him. This is the logic behind the WHOLE pump & read carefully if you can't not understand it because this is how it is;
Cen-1 did not do the first pump. They did not have a reason to. They were owed money by David Saltrelli and Peter Schuster and they have to be paid on the loan. They had not converted the shares until the end of August. The first pump was in March. David and Peter did it to lure investors into NSL for their own benefit. Who else would have done it????
The second pump was done on August 1. Right at the same time David Saltrelli was trying to convince Cen-1 to convert the loan to shares. David Saltrelli pumped the second time to show Cen-1 that a conversion would be worth their while. The conversion to shares did not happen until the end of August. Over three weeks after the pump. Highly doubt Cen-1 would pump it to bring the share price down. It would have gone down on it’s own as it has.
Now if any of you have ANY kind of practical, logical reasoning why it would have been Cen-1, I will listen but, "JUST BECAUSE," DOES NOT FLY!!!
David Saltrelli, large stock holders or Cen-1 may pump the stock. I could be a joint effort. No one is really sure who, if anyone will pump the stock at all?
PumpsandDumps.com has stated many times before that usually the owners of the companies will pump the stock to try and recuperate the funds for their lender so it's in David Saltrelli's best interest to pump the stock himself due to having to try and recuperate some of Cen-1's funds from a mislead business venture.
Maybe you should stop making false statements of how David Saltrelli does what he says and sticks to his words because by FACT THAT IS NOT TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!
A new struggling company? The company has been running for nearly a year. A YEAR!!! He has done this exact type of company 10 times before. This isn't new to him!!
How do you know it isn't a pump and dump, Russ? There hasn't been anything but merely words. THAT'S IT!! What possibly makes you say that? You are just spitting out words like David Saltrelli does.
"David saltrelli seems to do what he says." He hasn't so far and he has said things for months. MONTHS!!! Nothing has happened when he promised things in the past!!
Buy more Russ. You should now so it doesn't close in the red again.