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AS reduction is good but they needed to launch a full pr campaign. They tend to put out news in a haphazard manner. The compression pr was good, AS reduction tells us no dilution in future. What happened to the encryption?
Good info joshua33. Yesterdays trading shows us one thing. With the tiny float it doesn't take much to move this stock up or down.The price was off 19% at .029 and only a measly 100 shares took it down to -28% at the close.
Fact HSCC was above the 200ma for about 6 weeks. Management didn't do much to take advantage of the momentum, Golden Cross etc. The stock took a swacking because of it.
Only one thing is important 57 million shares 35million owned by about 15 shareholders. Increase the buying the float gets small pps will go up. Take that twitter list and start talking about HSCC on all those listed. One solid tweet from those top 25 and HSCC will be in full rally mode.
I just hope Anyday doesn't screw up when the $100-300 million dollar contract is announced
The entire penny market is like that right now the ones that do go up on mass emails are 1-2 day pops that quickly fall back to earth
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=FORC&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p85251986822
Here's one that is fairing a bit better IHSN they paid $35k for a alerting service. they had a Golden Cross like HSCC and news yest. very similar with reduction in shares. Who knows what the current OS and Float is and how fast it is growing.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=IHSN&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p01740695905
Anyday is in charge lol By: rivet
19 Apr 2011, 09:18 AM EDT
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ANYDAY $100-300 MILLION SURVEILLANCE CONTRACT DOES DAVE HAVE THE HORSEPOWER TO BE PART OF THIS? THESE ARE THE LOW END OF THE NUMBERS IN THE RUMOR MILL. CAN DAVE FILL AN ORDER FOR 40,000 CAMERAS? HOW ABOUT 80,000 CAMERAS? OR SHOULD ONYX FIND ANOTHER COMPANY? YOU KNOW DAVE BETTER THAN ANYBODY BY YOU OWN ADMISSION. WHATS THE WORD? SHOULD ONYX STAY WITH HSCC OR MOVE ON? WE ARE GOING TO LET YOU DECIDE. THE FATE OF HSCC RESTS ENTIRELY IN YOUR HANDS.
you want the price to go up quit trying to buy lower all the time.
sounds like something to eat like Capt Crunch cereal
Kiaser if you feel the need to ask permission don't bother
why not?
problem I see is only one person see each one of those, and it is very labor intensive. A cheap sticker put on a drive up gets seen by 1000's of people and cost less than .02 a piece. They work 24/7 continuously. How often do you go to a drive up window or gas station? You don't have to go out of your way to do it. I think the windshield thing is a good idea as well. Make business sized cards with a short message with the web address. You can buy business cards for 5000 for about $55.
The idea is maximum exposure
I'm pressing ahead not going to wait on HSCC to put out news. To me this is very simple. A small set number of shares available no dilution, increase the exposure increase the buying demand pps will go up.
Are you going to break into cars and hang them off the mirrors?
I would do that but some ugly woman would immediately take that sticker down and want to file a lawsuit. lol
Good pt. Google HSCC it comes up 3rd thru 5th. HSCC/ONYX is harder to remember but it comes up. Then what are you directing them to do. Imagine your at a drive up or taking a piss or walking into a stadium, sitting in traffic and you see a sticker. Needs to be short simple something you can remember and get the right point across. Need more ideas, feedback and suggestions.
Excellent rbd317, we just need more eyeballs looking at this. I'm fine tuning my sticker collection till I get the right one.
Put these 2 out for vote Which one has the most impact and would be likely to get someone to look at HSCC? I think I will get some bumper stickers made as well. Has anybody made any stickers yet?
GOT HSCC?
INVEST HSCC
You guys need to come to the understanding if you want the price to go up you move your bids up. Otherwise in a low volume market the mm's will lower the bid to try and fill your order. If you have a bid at .032 they will move the bid to .03 or .031 then fill you at .032 on the ask like they did on the partial. Then they raised the ask. They only had 6 out of 10k shares. What does the tell you. There is no shares available down this cheap. So move up and buy them. the difference between .032 and .035 on 10k shares it $30. The price of the commission to change the rest of your order to .035. I may just go in and buy those .035 away from you to teach you a lesson when they raise the ask to .037.
You want volume and price to go up you have to be will to move up. Look at the chart from Feb 14 to March 14 price went from low of about .02 to high of .04-.045. And the volume increased significantly. Remember what was happening?
Rivet announced everyday he was buying 10,000 shares on the ask at the end of the day and could they have some of the better shares set aside for him. He did it everyday for about a month and posted the trade confirmation. Leadership by example.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=HSCC&p=D&yr=0&mn=3&dy=0&id=p17575650460
The Golden Cross just occurred 6 days ago. The 50ma is the support level we want to stay above. right now that is .032. That means no selling below .032 and buy above that level. To do that you will have to put a bid in so the mm can make money. Buy it at .035 and move up as the 50ma come up. Before you know it it will be above .04 other people will be looking at it and the volume will come. Rivet showed us it works. Do you want this to be a .02 stock or an .08 stock?
By: tradingspaz
15 Apr 2011, 12:33 PM EDT
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+711.32% What standard do you use to call that hanging on for dear life?
Hanging on to my shares because we are just one step away from a multi multi million dollar surveillance system announcement for a major city. Or a multi million dollar contract for VideoCrunch compression that blows H.264 away. H.264 has quality visual problems when the video file is decompressed it becomes jerky.
VideoCrunch
"Using our Symbolic Transmittance Image Video (or STIV) format, this technology has capabilities not available in other video coder-decoders (CODECs), including compression that is unmatched by any other video standard.
In this next paragraph they are talking about the use in the Military specifically the Predator.
• Compressed sensory video and transmission of 6 to 8 fps
over new Link-16 (the standard military inter-computer
data exchange format of NATO), dedicated 20 kilohertz channel
• Ability to compress and re-broadcast live MPEG video
at 700 Kbps with less than 3 seconds delay
Designed for use in combat and extensively tested on the battlefield. Note the "with less than 3 second delay" The predator's overseas are flown here in the US via satellite link. You have to be able to see what you are targeting without any loss of video quality and it can't be jerky or delayed more than a couple seconds. And it must be encrypted so Alibaba can't see what your doing. For takeoff and landing it is flown by a FAC based overseas using line of sight signal. (Can't have a 2 second delay when landing).
So yeah I'm hanging on for dear life poor little ol me. But what I really want is my 2 million shares so I can get a membership in the Boyz Club.
HSCC GC cross walking up the 50ma breakout coming
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=HSCC&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p58497796599
HSCC chart worth your time to look at
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=HSCC&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p58497796599
rbd317 if you are supporting the bid like you say move it up with the 50ma. The low end of the price range needs to keep moving up and stay above the 50ma. Bid support today at .032 no lower. This applies to anyone don't try to buy below the 50ma or the 200ma. If you want the price to move up then move up with it. This will form an ascending wedge. The chart just Golden Cross the idea is to break the price out. That means buying above the 50ma. It would be foolish to want to buy HSCC below the 50ma right after a GC. This is a self fulfilling thing. The better the chart looks the more people want to get in on the run.
http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/gallery.html?hscc
Got all the shares you want?
Anyone made any stickers yet?
Nah that's too much work. Well just sit around and talk to each other all day. Bull shzz If 10 people do this everyday how much more effective will that be than 1. How about 20 or 30 how about a 100 by the end of the summer.
Until HSCC/ONYX announces a contract with meat then the best thing we can do is keep tightening the float.
This is so simple.
Focus on only 47 million shares for the entire world. Over 50% are owned by IHub members.
Increase the demand the pps will go up.
Market's closed time to go stick some stickers GOT HSCC? INVEST HSCC!
And the reason your doing that is because you know its not being diluted. You can go to sleep and not wake up to a wall of dilution coming down on you.
What I want to see is Platinum, Gold, Silver, and Bronze Stars above the top 4 shareholders bars on that top 10 graph. And maybe Copper on the 5th.
http://www.homelandsecuritycorporation.com/investor.php?investors_id=18
rbd to me it looks like the company is headed in the right direction. Personally I don't want to see financials until they nail a big contract. Then I would like to see the finanacials attached to the pr because I know persons like yourself won't believe it when HSCC/ONYX bag a $100million contract for a huge wireless surveillance system. This is no longer about Dave and Gary of HSCC this is a much bigger play. You either have the vision and the stomach for it and stay long or you don't and sell or better yet don't ever buy it. There is only 57 mil float 35 mil owned by about 15 people. If what you are saying is true your one of them. This is very simple play in one respect. Tiny float, I you went out into the world and found one person to buy 500k-2million shares. What would happen to the price? go up or down.
Or you could sit here a piss and moan that HSCC's not going up because they haven't release financials. Take a look at some of the penny market high flyers and tell me why they aren't going up? Let's start with one of the strongest runners in the penny market in the last 12 months
CWRN and we all know they have a .15 buyout offer
http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/gallery.html?CWRN
So you think the reason the stock hasn't gone up is because the prs don't have financials attached to them. Oh my I thought I'd heard it all. Take a look around at what the rest of the penny market is doing? Stone Cold. 99.99% of all penny especially pinks are nothing but dilution mills pumping out more prs to pump out more shares. Wtf are you doing in pinks anyway?
Go buy something that has just what you are looking for. What prompted you to buy a speculative pink in the first place. Iknow what John is already thinking 123
rbd317 I guess you could sell your shares? How many do you own? You could buy GE they have 10billion shares and 500billion debt. Is that a good deal?
All right who has designed some Stickers yet? I put about 30 out this morning on gas pumps, urinals, posts around the drive up ordering. They seem to stay longer. And look at the results heavy volume someone just bought 10,000 shares on the ask because they read the stickers.
rbd317 personally I don't want to see financial right now. I want to see financial's after they secure a $50-150million contract. Right now I'd rather see the float go from 57 million to 47 million because the company bought back owns and or restricted 10million shares. Why would you do that unless you see a much brighter future. The companies with no future pump out news and shares. I've seen companies put out financials that weren't as stellar as some of the penny audience thought they should be and the stocks get hammered. Basher's just rip at every little detail.
What's the line from the Pink Floyd song?
How can you have any Pudding if you don't eat your meat. You can't have any Pudding if you don't eat your meat.
I'm waiting for the meat. Give me some meat!
rbd317 here's where that info came from
straight from the transfer agent
189mil OS
132 restricted
58 float
NOBO/OBO list page
57 float
47 unrestricted float
Pr's
Zero Debt
looks like a chart with too much clutter plus it would be nice to see the right hand side of the chart
How much would HSCC be worth a share for every 10mil in annual earnings. With a PE of 15 and 20. Who's the fundamentals expert that can answer this.
189mil OS
132 restricted
57 float
47 unrestricted float
Zero Debt.
109mil over a year ago And that compression isn't even lossless or used in the P------r
Kaiser the AS reduction says enough. Everything is following a logical sequence of events. ONYX technology is worth a fortune. H.264 the current industry standard can't even come close in a side by side demonstration of compression. files size, lossless, quality etc.
HSCC is lucky to be where they are in a JV with ONYX. The shareholder is lucky to be in HSCC because it is the only investment in ONYX. This will become very clear when, a High dollar contract for a wireless surveillance system for some city is announced. What do you think the minimum price for surveillance system for a medium sized city will cost? 20mil 50mil 100mil, 150mil. The numbers that will be looked at then are revenues, profit, 0 debt, PE etc. Personally I think it will have a delayed reaction. For example if they announce a multimillion dollar contract everyone will go nah how could that be true, that contract is far too big for this little company. This isn't about HSCC SO much as the ONYX team of 35 and all their contacts. The shareholder needs to understand the immense value. It is a multiplier effect. Then we will see the actual revenues in a quarterly report or such. You will either own it or won't. If you don't you'll say I could have bought it, I should have bought it. It's time to get exposure for this outside of these message boards. All that's needed is to get the name out. The smart investors will do their homework on their own and find the website. The website will do the rest.
The AS reduction means NO DILUTION in the Future. If the OS is 189mil and the AS is reduced from 1 bill to 250mill the most dilution that could take place is 61 mil shares. Most penny's burn thru that in a day or two. But if you were in the business of dilution you would not decrease your AS you would increase it and quietly. An AS of 1 billion is a ominous number because most penny stocks do nothing but dump share after share on the shareholder killing the pps. 250 is like a breath of fresh air. New investors will breath easier knowing they are buying a company that doesn't print shares to pay bills.
Pressing ahead, nice work on the AS dd. Anyone notice the penny market has cooled off a bit lately. The biggest clue was the once red hot CWRN from .0003 to .032 with 300mil vol days now it's at .013 on 9mil. When the .15 and .17 buyout offer news didn't budge it that was a strong signal of cooling.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=CWRN&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p98885520419
HSCC is slow and steady. We only have 57 mil float which has for the most part been bought up. If we get new buyers the price will go up.
The company has done a good job lately with investor relations thru the NOBO list and the AS reduction. Both of which were originally mentioned and sent to the company from people on IHUB board.
HSCC needs volume everyone agrees
Best thing we can do as investors is keeping putting the word out. And I don't mean talking to the same people on the boards all day long.
This may sound crazy and stupid but sometimes simple and cheap works best.
At Kinko's you can buy 750 Avery #8160 1x2 5/8 labels for about $13. They come in sheets 25 sheets of 30. Then you go onto the Avery website and design your own templates.
i.e.
GOT HSCC? or GOOGLE HSCC
Just keep it clean and simple
Once you design your template go to Kinko's or print them at home. Kinko's only charges 9cents per black and white page or about 55cents for color. So if you go all out and use color it will cost you about $26 for 750 labels or $16 for Black and white. So what do you do with them?
How many cars go thru a drive up window a day? 1000, 2000? How about the 2 laners? When you at a drive up window you attention is focused in a small area like the box with the microphone speaker. Nice flat surface for stickers. Everybody buys gas. And they stand looking at the pump or a small area around it. gas pumps, poles. Next time you come back if the labels gone, well then put a new one on or go to a different pump. put em on everypump. How about a major sports event where everyone is channeled thru a small area. Or how about the stand up urinals where your attention is straight ahead unless you have issues. Great places for stickers. Ever hear of Hanoi Jane?
Use your imagination go to Avery.com and design a template Try number 8160 save it to a memory stick or CD. Take it to the print shop buy the labels. 10 guys x750 labels 7500 labels x 10,000 eyeballs seeing them is a lot of new eyeballs. Or you could just sit here talking about smacking that ask. Personally I'd rather get this thing to breakout make some money them go spend some time smacking some babes azz.
POPT just leaves you swimming in new diluted shares. HSCC the shares are continually bought up and taken out of the float.
Pretty simple concept works the opposite of a diluted stock.
A diluted stock new shares are always hitting the float driving the price lower.
HSCC has no dilution ZERO. Today's news drove that point home. They reduced the Authorized from 1 bil to 250 mil. In other words the company doesn't need the shares. They aren't issued and won't be issued. Of the 250 mil AS, the OS is 189 mil and has been for years. About 3-4 lifespans of the average penny stock company is about how long. Of the 189 mil OS Dave Shade and Gary Williams own just under 132 million. Those 132 million shares are restricted. They haven't sold any and don't plan on it. 189 -132 = 57 mil left in the float. The float are whats left for you me and all the other people in the entire world to trade.
Of that 57 mil, the company thru share repurchases on the open market has bought up or already owned by insiders, restricted another 10mil. So 57 mil -10mil leaves you me and the rest of the NOBO/OBO world 47 mil shares.
Of the 47 mil the top 10 NOBO shareholders own over 32mil. The following stats from the NOBO page on the website. 47-32= 12 mil for you and the rest of the world. Of that 12 mil another 3 mil is owned by the next 5 or so shareholders. 12-3= 9 mil shares for you and the rest of the world.
21,557,403 (37%) shares held by 3 NOBO shareholders
31,790,695 (54%) shares held by 10 NOBO shareholders*
Here's a link
http://www.homelandsecuritycorporation.com/investor.php?investors_id=18
Here's a breakdown of where some of the share fall (facebook discussion pg)
Homeland Security Corporation
60 shareholders own 100,000 shares or more
100 shareholders own 50,000 shares or more
1050 shareholders own 10,000 shares or less
875 shareholders own 5000 shares or less
750 shareholders own 4000 shares or less
400 shareholders own 1000 shares or less
50 shareholders own 50 shares or less
On any given day most of the trading is done by shareholders that own 5000 shares or less. I'm not quite sure how you make any money doing that. This does effect the price. If they would just stop flipping such small blks put those shares away they would be worth far more. The last two years is proof, have seen substantial ytd gains 09 800%, 2010 300%, 2011 so far +34.62%. AS the shares are bought up and held the float is getting smaller and smaller.
http://www.insidestocks.com/quote.asp?sym=HSCC
The YTD gains illustrate the effect of having a set number of shares that continually get bought up. The price is steadily increasing. The mm's games of bleeding the stock on the tiny trades of a few are having less and less effect everyday. The NOBO list levels the playing field for the shareholder. The float numbers are right on the website. All you have to do is look and see the mm's ain't got shares.
HSCC is a lot of different plays all rolled into one. The play I just illustrated is simple supply and demand. As the company works to sell the crane cams, mining cams, the ONYX/HSCC surveillance systems. We are empowered to go out and sell HSCC as an investment. All the tools you need are right on the website. And it's getting better all the time. The next few months will be about going out and finding investors to buy large blks of HSCC.
Out of this concept was born the HSCC Boyz Club. Crazy simple plan that appeals to the crudest and simplest of instincts in a lot of men. It is working. The club membership is 2 million shares and it is sucking up more of the float. All Shareholders benefit from the HSCCBC. At some point I think we will see 1 million shares bought up in a day or two. The meat of a lot of shares are sitting in the .04-.06 range. Take those out and we have lift off. One new BC member could easily do it. The price of membership gets more expensive all the time.
On a different level
100 shareholders own 50,000 shares or more
For those that own less than 50k shares you can move into the top 100 shareholders with 50,000 shares or more. $1750 is what it will cost at today's close. I think we should come up with some sort of reward system for reach different levels of shares held.
Any ideas?
little birdie as in twitter? Just curious we haven't been using twitter very long but it has endless potential
hellcatjr how did you find out about it?
.035 21k shares is laughable considering all that has happened, happening, and about to happen.
are you on twitter yet? you can easily do both get enough on twitter talking about this and sooner or later it will just explode.
HSCC HUGE NEWS 75% Reduction in AS from 1 billion down to 250 Million! That's 750 million share reduction. The OS is 189mil 132mil of that restricted 57mil float. And of that 10mil have been bought back by the company in last 2 years. That leaves 47 mil and of that about 35 mil are owned by 12-15 strong traders. Something very big is Brewing at HSCC MONSTER RALLY TIME COMIN!
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Homeland-Security-Corporation-Announces-75-Reduction-of-Authorized-Shares-1424750.htm