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I'm even more "puzzled" now.....
....and what is a "twitter Blog site"....isn't that an FAQ thing where you talk about Twitter?
"NEWS: Todos Medical Announces First Two Contracts"
Can we get this pinned post from 08/08 removed please...c'mon man....
I think what TOMDF need to do at this point is to let what they have put in motion to this point proceed , with support from Todos …..stay focused , give things a chance to progress, help out when it’s needed , keep trying for EUA’s, especially in testing with ongoing support and don’t over extend their/our funds by getting impatient.
It would also be nice to see an update to explain the current status of Todos in relation to all the spinoffs etc and how it all ties in with percentages, timing, expenses, gross vs net revenues and numbers included.
Not a bunch of "going forward" but a status report of how we stand at this moment
Yet it sounds counter-productive
Why would you two put Admins in ignore?
Yes concerns are bad....bad concerns bad....discussion bad too.....we don't need information....buy buy buy
Quite simple really....any post made by a free membership poster should not count against their daily allotment if posted during Happy Hour...simple
It was during happy hour, they shouldn't count against my unused posts during happy hour....a post is a post and if it is during happy hour it should not count against my daily allotment....show me the rule
Why is the allotment post on now while I am on this Q&A Board....I am losing posts by answering questions that shouldn't need answering if this was fairly regulated.
Not deleted posts ....counted posts, we are not talking about deleted posts.
" I think it should be deleted. The posts were probably removed due to off topic"
The posts we are talking about are still on the Board....the issue is why were they Counted against my daily allotment if they were posted during Happy Hour....do you see?
'If you want to post after happy hour as a free member, don't use them all up."LOL...why not fix the rule or at least tell people about it.....BTW where are the rules/guidelined for Happy Hour?
New Like Feature:
Will it be a standalone or will it be linked to display any kind of data , like reputation or any other indicator of the Boards and the posters?
You ask;
"What's the "problem". They offer premium options to free members for an hour. You can use them, or not use them."
And who are you?
Thanks for the suggestion but I would rather iHub fix the problem
How many companies do Todos own or have spun off and what percentage of that company do Todos still own?
3CLPharma 52%
Todos Botanicals 0%
Provista 100%
NCL Pharma ?%
As you may know by now I set up a special Happy Hour on the TOMDF board on Friday.
I have a free membership so I only get 15 free posts a day, so I had used 8 posts up til 4PM and saved 7 posts for later that day after 5PM. Or so I thought.
That was the plan...unlimited posts, get some lurkers posting and have a party chatting stocks.
I made 14 posts during that hour and 7 were deleted because I broke TOU....this message has nothing to do with these deleted posts.
So the other 7 posts I made during Happy Hour and/or the deleted posts caused , what I thought I had saved in my pocket the be counted and after Happy Hour I went to post from my 7 of my daily allotment only to find that they weren't there and that they had been counted during happy Hour and put me down to minus 7
So my point is why are my 15 daily free posts taken away during Happy Hour if the deal is you get unlimited posts. I can see why from your end, perhaps you can't pause the counter during Happy Hour....but doesn't that kind of defeat the joy of the Happy Hour when you know you won't be able to post afterwards.
I explained afterwards to iHub admin that I was not aware that I would end up with no posts at 5PM but they said too bad can't help, seeya tomorrow.
Do you see how this could be corrected?
Secondly when I go on the Q&A Board to get this fixed or at least ask a question....again my posts are counted...shouldn't that be a freebie?
Is there anyone in marketing that might take an interest in making the site better or even making changes to Happy Hour to make it so people would use it? It could be fun.
Is there a particular individual at iHub that might care about Happy Hour....making it better or more used ?
I understand if perhaps the Boards are a liability, a necessary evil so to speak. maybe iHub don't like having the Boards....not sure.
Quite simple really....any post made by a free membership poster should not count against their daily allotment if posted during Happy Hour...simple
It was during happy hour, they shouldn't count against my unused posts during happy hour....a post is a post and if it is during happy hour it should not count against my daily allotment....show me the rule
Why is the allotment post on now while I am on this Q&A Board....I am losing posts by answering questions that shouldn't need answering if this was fairly regulated.
Not deleted posts ....counted posts, we are not talking about deleted posts.
" I think it should be deleted. The posts were probably removed due to off topic"
The posts we are talking about are still on the Board....the issue is why were they Counted against my daily allotment if they were posted during Happy Hour....do you see?
'If you want to post after happy hour as a free member, don't use them all up."LOL...why not fix the rule or at least tell people about it.....BTW where are the rules/guidelined for Happy Hour?
Let's get this fixed
Friday I had posted 8 times before Happy Hour.
I had 7 posts of my daily allotment left.
Happy Hour is advertised as "Unlimited Posts"
So why were my 7 posts that I had left in my daily allotment removed from my daily allotment during Happy Hour when you advertise it as unlimited posts?
In other words, at 5Pm I expect to see 7 posts remaining in my daily allotment.
You have missed the point....I had 7 posts left in my daily allotment of 15 when Happy Hour started but they were all deducted from me during Happy Hour ....how does that represent free posts like you advertize....It doesn't....I posted way more than 7 posts during Happy Hour yet the counter deducted my own daily allotment....do you understand what I am saying , this has nothing to do with the posts that were removed by admin for TOU violations
I used it, (Happy Hour) and kept 7 of my free posts aside, but then found out that they were taken away by some counter during Happy Hour with out any warning so at the end of happy hour I was sad to see that I had no posts left for the day and was actually showing Minus 7 posts left for the day
I think iHub should change this system ....as a matter of fact why do you take away a post from my free ones for even posting here for an answer?
The deal with happy Hour is that you get unlinited free posts yet they took away all of my unused posts such that i could no longer post after 5PM.. They said I have to wait til tomorrow....so it was NOT unlimited free posts> How unfair.
When I tried to hype it up and engage new and lurking members to post....that got removed by admin for being Off Topic. Laughable.
Then when I try to explain it all to iHub Admin I am unable to because she has obviously never posted on a stock forum before , just keeps falling back on TOU LOL
Then i come here for answers and some clown is attacking me , for asking questions
.....and I had to use up another of my free posts.......
pathetic
Seeing as how this is a Question and Answer Board I ask:
Is there someone other than Admin that I can talk to about this and would you please post something to explain to folks that the Happy Hour Board is not unlimited free posts
Sorry Slojab but you have that wrong about Happy Hour.
"Happy Hour is a one-hour block where everybody has the premium message board features enabled for them. You can do full-text searches, send private messages, read 100's of messages in one click, etc. All the groovy extras! Everything you see on the feature matrix. Happy Hour is every Friday, from 4-5pm EST."
Also I would think that iHub marketing would be okay with me promoting Happy Hour on a board.
Hope this helps.
Decided to invite the whole board to Happy Hour yesterday for a discussion and made a big deal about it like it was a party.
Apparently iHub don't like that.
I was quite surprised to have posts removed for mentioning the happy hour and another post removed when I asked if there were others listening that might want to post.
Reason for deletion "off topic'
Yesterday's Happy Hour did bring in some new posters and some new info to light.
Bit disappointing to learn that "unlimited posts" means that you use up all of your free daily posts from the free membership first , then you get unlimited only after that .
After all that work trying to stimulate discussion and promote happy Hour I ended up with no ability to post after 5PM to keep the discussion going and minus 7 posts in my "Posts remaining today" fund
When I questioned iHub Admin , I was told that the discussion is about the stock/company only and that everything else is off topic, even mentioning Happy Hour.
It was also explained that I used up all of my daily posts during Happy hour and when I asked for them back , I was told that Admin cannot do that.
Even posting this question here , I have used up one of my "free' posts.
Are the "discussion" boards something that iHub like to support or are they simply a necessary liability?
I try to support the boards, as a matter of fact because of my promo yesterday the TOMDF Board was trending #2 in the Breakout Boards.
Good discussion going on. Yesterday's Happy Hour brought some new info to light.
Bit disappointing to learn that "unlimited posts" means that you use up all of your free daily posts from the free membership first , then you get unlimited after that .
I ended up with no ability to post after 5PM and minus 7 posts in my "Posts remaining today" fund
I'm beginning to actually believe that some of my questions about spinoffs and revenue vs net revenues etc. don't exist.
Based on the vague news releases that I have read I'm not surprised that no one will answer.
there is no answer.
Market Depth level 2 realtime still shows 2 orders on the bid and 2 on the ask
I was reprimanded yesterday for posing a Market Depth question in error. Not being too familiar with market Depth Level 2 on OTC shares I see today that most of the bid/ask (Depth) disappeared at 4 PM but there are still 2 orders showing on the bid and 2 on the ask, CSTI and CFGN broker/house.
Then soon as I was told the last info will disappear.
Why is it this way?
The TOMDF discussion board is trending #2 on the Breakout boards
How many different divisions/spinoffs are there in Todos ?
How can we get the pinned post changed ?
"...spinning a roulette wheel..." "...this is a crap shoot." "It may be a crap shoot for you, ..." " A crap shoot aligns with a one-time investment and hoping for a miracle. ..."
LOL your words not mine....seems to be a little panic there....
Can we have an actual discussion here about Todos rather than the shareholders and bagholders .
I have been begging here for someone for clarity in all the spinoffs and net revenues but no-one has shown up.
looking back thru news releases is simply full of promises and stories. nothing real, there is no meat to any of it.
I keep getting blamed for not doing my own DD etc.....actually I'm beginning to see that there are no answers . The hardcore Longs don't know anymore than I do. Other than empty promises....am I right?
Don't forget Happy Hour at 4 PM EST, be good to see what some of the silent majority here think about Todos progress lately and offer your opinions and strategies for the days up to Yearend
Thanks for the advice GM just trying to have a discussion.
I don't think what is said here is going to affect the shareprice, really?
As far as what the company says or prints doesn't really cut it with me since it all means nothing in the long run.
You can see this confirmed by the floundering shareprice and volume.
This may look like an investment to some but it is really a high risk bet IMO and should be admitted as such.
As time goes on I am losing more and more confidence.
If I could get out now without a loss , as most of us bagholders here are below breakeven and in the red, if it wasn't for the upcoming R/s I would buy more but since it is going to happen and I see more dilution to shareholder value with every spinoff I likely would sell 2/3 of my holdings and stay around just to see what transpires.
So, I hope this goes up before it tanks
"Todos isn't selling part of their 52%. 3CL Pharma was independently assessed and valued at $1.9B. They won't be trying to raise that much. "
They couldn't if they wanted
" but only sell enough to fund their initiatives and operating costs until revenues are sufficient to cover all of this." you forgot "going forward" LOL
"It has not been determined yet if shareholders will get individual shares in the spinoff" I have some good invesments in South Central Florida for you......
"The key point in my mind is that Todos has the option to acquire 100% of the new entity " LOL...with whose money?
I usually like to get kissed before I get farked.
Good discussion today for TOMDF .....but Newco after newco..."go big or go bust"...don't worry about TOMDF or what's left of it ....."shareholders will be fine"...
"if you don't like it leave. ",,,,"investor"
GM you stated "They (TODOS) will get 52% of 3CL revenues."....from Gross revenue or net revenue?
Another stated:" Todos will sell some of their 52% to investors. Give away some to new management team. And retain an unknown amount. If I had to guess I would say 25%. " When you say Todos you say TOMDF so we pay for development then our cut goes down to perhaps 25% or less. And this is good?
Discussion should be about what's in it for us, as shareholders and do we even have a say anymore. Why sell off our assets, what about fiduciary duty to shareholders.?
I guess I will try again , let's use 3CL Pharma as an example.
TOMDF, the stock, owns 52% of 3CL for now.
We should own all of it because it is our IP and r&d
The BOD giveTollovid/r and tollotest IP and rights to a newco 3CL and retain only 52 % for shareholders and this seems okay to you....did the executive go along with that deal for their cut too???
So 3CL goes public
Do the Executive and BOD own some besides the 52% ? How much ? Salaried or new shares in Newco ?
So then another part of the company spins off ...TOMDF owned 100% but post spinoff that drops to 52%.......do the BOD and exec still only hold 52% or do they get a "job" in the newco....how are NET profits shared in the Newco
GC says no reverse split...oops had to do it sorry Bod and big investors insisted....anyone see the pattern here....what happens to TOMDF shareholders, do we get a fair cut in Newco, or 52%....but didn't we just have 100%, yes but "don't worry"
Why post a headline from a June 21 press release....trying to give me a heart attack?
Am I the only one that sees this dilution of TOMDF value go on and on with spinoffs and plans to reverse split....they even once said that 3CL Pharma could go public .....what would that do to TOMDF shareprice......
At this rate TOMDF is done...they keep diluting our IP giving it away to spinoffs that management have a share in....we don't
I sure hope it goes up a bit before it crashes.
"We are going to implement a "Like" feature in the very near future; it is already in development.
Regards,
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....and they have.
Todos Medical CLIA/CAP Lab Provista Submits Emergency Use Authorization Application
Well I certainly hope they get this, and for more reasons than 1
Something interesting to note about this announcement. This was released at 9:20 EST and I think most of us here would call this good, maybe great news.
But look at the market's reaction....nothing, in fact the shareprice is down 3%.
Now if you do watch the day to day moves , like I do but some won't....this is normal for a normal day. But not what one would expect with big news.
So this reinforces my thinking that promises no longer move this stock and that putting us all into the vulnerable position of a Post Split scenario would be the worst move.
Only real events will start moving this stock.
"If the uplist actually materializes in "weeks" "
"I didn't realize you already knew from watching the video that was 1000% impossible."
How so?
Why is it impossible?
Well stated VCF, I only have 1 or 2 posts left for today but I will admit answers are not easily found since most news is simply promises of this or that but no real results for some time now or copies of tweets.
Promises won't move this stock, if the stock won't move on merit then the BOD are likely going to push for a Rev split before the time is right. Pushing for an uplisting when down this low is a big mistake, let the shareprice rise on merit. If news doesn't move this stock now..... as it would appear then the idea of a split then a series of positive news releases like Institutional Investors like to hear won't do anything for the stock anyway.
Raising the price of the stock artificially just opens the door for shorters and hedgers. I've had stocks split where even the Inst Investors hedge their investment in case it fails as most will.
Inst Investors will also attach milestones to the deal and if milestones aren't met then their money stops. It's a joke
I have bought into Tomdf on 2 occasions as a calculated bet, then had the rug pulled on me when I heard about intentions to split. Like many others I would have liked to buy more because of the possible success/fundamentals but like many many others I have held off because of the R/S looming and now the shareprice is floundering also because of the threat of a split
provista are offering Videssa testing , so who owns Videssa ? Todos or Provista
Simple Poll to make it easy, cut and paste your answer and repost 'til we get a consensus. How many companies do Todos own or have spun off and what percentage of that company do Todos own?
3CLPharma 52%
Todos Botanicals 0%
Provista 100%
NCL Pharma ?%
Todos are planning on a reverse split sometime in the future and are apparently looking at the NYSE I still wonder if that is a good idea considering the terrible history of other Penny Stocks that have tried and failed.
Any thought from others here since we seem to be trending Number 1 ?
TOMDF Board trending number 2 on the Breakout Boards with 32 posts today yet we still can't get answers to those nagging questions about Revenues and the status of spinoffs etc.
I guess no one knows these things or those who do know won't tell us newbies.
Well said JFB, yes it 's good that the people know who owns Videssa,
Level 2 quotes may disappear on the OTC but not all markets are equal and I am new to OTC Level 2, had it for 13 days now...I stand admonished hat in hand for that mistake.
You have a good way with staying within the guidelines, yet getting your message across on penny stock platforms. Microcap stocks are good vehicle for those "asking such newby questions." for sure