Site Suggestions

[IH Geek [Tom]]

@Willymon - You can definitely bookmark the crypto market movers. As long as you're on the page, just bookmark it like any other page you'd bookmark. If you're trying to do something else, let me know what you mean.

Not a bad idea about crypto being where TSX is. We do get quite a bit of Canadian traffic, though. Let me check the stats prior to pissing off a bunch of our friends from the North. 🇨🇦

[IH Admin [Shelly]]

@IH Geek [Tom] or @IH Geek [Chuck] this is an interesting suggestion.

[Willymon]

Suggestion to move "Cryptocurrency" from the bottom of the "More Markets" dropdown list to the top of it or replace TSX with it.

It is inconvenient to have to keep selecting it where it is currently buried, nor can I bookmark it because of the way the CSS points to it.

https://ih.advfn.com/markets/coin/regular

[IH Geek [Dave]]

You also will not get the mention alert in your Mailbox if you are the recipient of the message in which you are mentioned.

[MrMike241]

Sounds good. I only have one troll stalker that I try to ignore 😱

[IH Admin [Shelly]]

Ohh, good to know!

[IH Admin [Meghan] (former)]

They can Mention you, but you won’t get the notification and can continue peacefully ignoring whomever.

[MrMike241]

@IH Admin [Shelly] @IH Geek [Dave] @IH Admin [Meghan] (former) Is there a limit to the number of mentions? Can people I've ignored, that cannot PM me, still mention me and draw me in to something I don't want to see?

[IH Admin [Shelly]]

@StockItOut illustrating the way Mentions works. You just type @ prior to the User name and it will give you a drop down list to choose from.

[IH Admin [Shelly]]

@nowwhat2 All these are just to help illustrate how mentions work and figure out what I did incorrectly. (Jury is still out!)

Anyway, all you do is type @ and start typing the member's name. A drop down menu will come up, you click on that and viola! you have just mentioned someone. :)

[IH Geek [Dave]]

Uh @nowwhat2 test

[IH Geek [Dave]]

Test @nowwhat2 test

[MrMike241]

Definitely true!

[janice shell]

They're probably busy following the Q&A board, which has been... challenging for them of late.

[MrMike241]

I could, but that's not my suggestion

It's extra work, and I don't know that I want to make my following list public.

Thanks for the chat though, it might help the geeks understand the ask

[janice shell]

You can put any stocks you want on the list.

And I know; every time there's a site improvement, you need more clicks to get to whatever it is you want.

[MrMike241]

Settings, then More, then MyStocks (on my tablet, in desktop mode).

Another issue is that My Stocks is public, and not the same list as the stocks that I'm following.

[janice shell]

Well, I suppose that makes sense. But you can easily navigate to My Stocks by clicking on "Settings" above.

[MrMike241]

Thanks, I suppose it does show adequate valuable data there, but I rarely look at that and it's not easy to navigate to. I guess my suggestion would be to add that trading Information to the favorites page, because that's my portal to the site, where I'm actually looking for activity. I also have my TDA account open, but that's a different screen. I like using TDA on my desktop and IHub on my tablet.

[janice shell]

Yes, I guess so. This one, anyhow. I've never used it:

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/profiles.aspx

[MrMike241]

Do got mean this page? Nope

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/mystocksactivity.aspx

The number of stocks shouldn't matter, I'm not thinking of affecting the size of the page when it loads, just filling in the white space between the stock name and the message count. It's 70% whitespace.

[janice shell]

Well, I have 77. Though some of them aren't stock boards. That makes the Favorites page pretty long.

Doesn't the My Stocks thing do something like what you describe?

[MrMike241]

Usually between 5 and 10. I know some have ridiculous numbers, which I guess could be a concern. But if cached continuously, as it must be already, probably no more difficult to join to that table and return current values with the message counts. What I do see on the favorites page is mostly white space. I'd like to fill it with relevant information.

[janice shell]

But how many boards do you have on your Favorites list?

[MrMike241]

I meant the favorites page, so that I can see delayed values for the stocks that I follow, all in one list, like I used to see when I used a different messaging site (Yawn!)

[janice shell]

Do you mean the Favorites page, or the Message List page? This is what I see on the latter:



I don't see, though, how it would be practicable to add it to the Favorites page. Some people have dozens of stock boards on theirs.

[MrMike241]

On the favorites page, in desktop view, there is plenty of space to show last trade, bid, and ask prices and sizes for stock boards, IMO. That would be valuable to me.

[Perfectson]

I'm confused. Did you get your site suggestion implemented? And now fighting against others attempting to do the same?

[janice shell]

Didn't read the rest of your comments but if the site only focused on the "purpose" of the site then it wouldn't have any enhancement, there'd be no follows, like button, etc etc.

And what a dreadful shame that would be! I hope this won't distress you, but I could live forever without follows, likes, or other "enhancements" of that kind. They play to the sheeplike qualities of some people who use the social media.

You still haven't explained the "social score used in China", and I'm genuinely curious.

[Paulie Cashews]

Yes, but we don't need AI to make art. We need AI to clean the house, deliver groceries and take out the trash, so we can spend more time on IHUB.



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[Perfectson]

is that what the icon is next to your name is?

[Paulie Cashews]

Quit complaining! I suggested an icon to recognize long-time members, and I was shunned like an Amish kid with a nipple-ring.



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[Perfectson]

I appreciate the multiple replies from the gallery. I presented my suggestion and the admins are reviewing and they'll make or have made their decision.

Didn't read the rest of your comments but if the site only focused on the "purpose" of the site then it wouldn't have any enhancement, there'd be no follows, like button, etc etc. Instead of focusing on the negative to shut down a site suggestion it might be better served allowing the dialogue (again to the admin) - which is the point of this board.

Thanks.

[janice shell]

Sounds a lot like that to me.

[Homebrew]

Maybe someone's pining for their high school cliques and gossip circles.

[janice shell]

Hope more internal debates are had on this topic and maybe one day the progressives win out.

I would not describe your ideas as "progressive". They actually have nothing to do with the purpose of the site, which is to provide a forum at which people interested in investing can discuss stocks and related topics.

[janice shell]

Popularity contests not only don't add value, they would remove value from this site.

Couldn't agree with you more.

[janice shell]

Members would start off with lets say 0 reputation. They also would have a bank of 100 reputation points that they can give away as example. so you can decide to "rep" certain posters for posts they make and other reason. Similarly you can "neg" a poster for the same thing. So there's a balance there - you get both sides +/- added to your score and the posters would only have a finite %# of reps they can use.

That sounds absurdly complicated. People are here to comment on stocks, not to spend their time "rating" their fellow posters.

I would not want to be in negative, so I would cease doing things that put me there and help improve the types of posts as an example.

So what you're saying is: If you picked up some of those dreaded negative votes for your opinions about stock ABCD, you'd modify your posts about that stock to be more in line with what "positive" people had to say about it?

[janice shell]

I believe it would be way more effective and require less feedback from Admin for members to "check" themselves. Other similiarites is the social score used in China or your credit score.

And what is the "social score" used in China? Why should it be a model for IHub?

I would like to know what are "membermarks" I have never heard or seen it and would like to evaluate , if that does actually do what I'm suggesting. Is there a link somewhere?

Membermarks are the number of follows a member has. You have 28.

[janice shell]

Again more of the same in the above post. Just filled with a lack of actual facts. Those rating systems are reviewed by schools and the professors themselves.

Let's start with this actual fact, then: long ago, I taught at Boston College for awhile. So I have actual experience of this.

Who better to provide feedback then the people being "subjected" and/or paying to/for the teaching?

I think that may seem a more convincing argument now that it did decades ago, because the cost of higher education has increased so much. But still, in many ways, students aren't qualified to judge. One of the questions always asked is whether the teacher knows his or her subject well. At the undergraduate level, most students have no way to judge that. They're taking the course because THEY don't know anything, or don't know enough, about the subject in question.

I am again suggesting that we do something that allows reputation for all members not just moderators. This should remove the dissent from those who responded to me (many if not all are serial moderators) and I would not expect that persona to agree to be "moderated" by members.

Again: As TV Dad says, it's not a popularity contest.

[janice shell]

someone with a negative score jumping into your conversation that was not intended for that person to answer - you can quickly decide if you want to respond back vs. being lured into a dialogue with someone who was going to be negative and has a history of such.

And what is wrong with "negativity"? Especially on a site dealing with securities, many of which richly deserve negative comment and discussion?

Adults shouldn't worry about popularity contests.

[IH Admin [Shelly]]

https://ihwiki.advfn.com/index.php?title=FAQ:Private_Messages

[Perfectson]

are you saying that if a user/moderator is sending vile PMs that you as an admin would step in?

If so - how would that work - as I see no report button in the PMs.

Users have no clue unless they scrutinize another User at the exact same times they are on the site and screenshot every post made to see how well they abide by the rules across the site. They have no idea whether the User has issues with sending vile PMs to other Users.

[IH Admin [Shelly]]

Lol - any Admin, employee, owner, whatever is welcome to read this board and respond in any way they wish. Any failure to do so can certainly be perceived by Users that it was somehow my "doing", when in reality I don't control or dictate anything of that sort.

In any event, you have a good day as well.

[Perfectson]

That's an interesting response.


Have a good day , glad you came over to challenge the suggestion and shut it down personally. Hope more internal debates are had on this topic and maybe one day the progressives win out.

I'll keep my fingers crossed and look forward to the updates you all decided to go with.

[IH Admin [Shelly]]

There are quite a few changes coming down the pipeline but negatively rating Users is not one of them at this time. It's similar to the reasoning behind there being no "dislike" though there is a "like" on posts.

It's basically philosophical in the design of these features. I'm not going to debate this here - there have been plenty of internal debates over matters like this over the years and I'd be shocked if anyone had anything to say that hasn't already been suggested and re-hashed.

"but rather give the other admins the ability to look at this system holistically with all use cases," This is a public forum. Any Admin or staff member can read this board so I'm not sure what you think I would be doing to prevent them from considering your suggestion.

Edit: Google "should there be a dislike button?" and you'll see all sorts of arguments for and against it. As you said, it's nothing new. Our website has chosen the path of "no dislike" at this point.

[Homebrew]

I was on a board that used "reputation" points. It was a horrible mess. Popular posters with "high reputation" regularly used their power to "punish" new posters or those with less popular opinions.

"KISS" works well here. Post on topic and everyone can have their own thoughts and opinions of the value of posts.

Popularity contests not only don't add value, they would remove value from this site.

[Perfectson]

So there's a huge gap there.

Again, I pose the suggestion as a way to respectfully take this board and the posters into the future. Many progressive boards are and have been doing this and it's been highly used and welcomed. This isn't some gimmicky thing and serves a distinct purpose that "followers"/"membermarks" COULD never accomplish.

Members would start off with lets say 0 reputation. They also would have a bank of 100 reputation points that they can give away as example. so you can decide to "rep" certain posters for posts they make and other reason. Similarly you can "neg" a poster for the same thing. So there's a balance there - you get both sides +/- added to your score and the posters would only have a finite %# of reps they can use.

These either would replenish per annum or those with higher reps would be given additional reps to use.

This is a much more utilitarian system than follows across the board.

You addressed one thing around the system (credibility) but there's other usecases particularly around redemption of said "reputation" points, which self polices a member. I would not want to be in negative, so I would cease doing things that put me there and help improve the types of posts as an example. I don't want you taking one use case and making simple rebuttals to fit your "no", but rather give the other admins the ability to look at this system holistically with all use cases, which I'm sure your forums adminstrators probably already have the ability to implement as this technology for bulletin boards has been in effect for at least a decade.

[IH Admin [Shelly]]

Membermarks = follow

That is how User's on this site "rate" fellow Users. No, there is not an equivalent "negative" viewpoint of Users and I doubt there ever will be.

Some Users seem to have found value in those over the years and tend to infer quite a bit from that stat.

In general, though, the goal here is for Users to make up their own mind whether something/someone is credible based on their own observations.

[Perfectson]

Ah - I moved on from that.

The reply I was starting with is regarding "user reputation" more broadly and not just the moderators. Just to find some middle ground and compromise. Here are the corresponding points:

Similarly, we could have "reputation" points for posters as well. But the initial focus would be those who moderate.

many websites have user reputation. We can do it easily with mods or all posters. To be frank, it should probably be for all posters which would encompass moderator. So that's a better idea.

You can have positive reputation and negative reputation. It's basic social scoring and as you said, it's a way to help users/mods self govern themselves. Also since there's no ignore functionality - it would be beneficial to see ahead of time who you're engaging with. Imagine this scenario
someone with a negative score jumping into your conversation that was not intended for that person to answer - you can quickly decide if you want to respond back vs. being lured into a dialogue with someone who was going to be negative and has a history of such

If you believe "membermarks" is something that fits the above, I'd be happy to check it out. Appreciate it.