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Sorry, but if you want to interpret the new FINRA data as real shorts, you have 1000's of stocks that have been massively shorted to choose from according to your beliefs
Not being antagonistic, but is it possible your interpretation of the data is wrong?
Jimstr
PS...and yes, normally 3 day settlement but in some cases up to 10
There is no huge short going on. People are misinterpreting the FINRA data.
yep.Posted by: Risicare Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010 6:07:00 PM
In reply to: springroll who wrote msg# 11709 Post # of 11749
All over Ihub the rubes are crying "OMG the shorts, look at how many shares were shorted!"
Due to the new info released by FINRA Despite common sense saying otherwise.....
Posted by: overachiever Member Level Date: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:00:24 PM
In reply to: southernnoise who wrote msg# 296116 Post # of 296144
Unless you know what you are looking at, you shouldn't draw any false conclusions. Those are daily tracking numbers
Until a security is delivered, it is considered to be technically short.
If I sell some SPNG today, it will show up as a short sale on FINRA records until my MM meets the buying MM "at the window". This can take up to 10 days. All you are really looking at is the sell side volume minus any flips or buy side through the same dealer. For example. If I buy 10 shares and you sell 20 shares and we are both using NITE and this is the only volume they handled all day long, the system would show NITE is short 10 shares until they deliver your stock to the buyer. Understand?
Stock is never delivered the same day you sell it. That would not be possible.
Clorox or company like clorox?...what makes you think so???
Sorry for the long post but our contact in Turkey is apparently a heavy hitter in that country with respect to the environment.
I had to translate into English
http://en.cevreciyiz.com/media_kit/default.aspx?SectionId=241&ContentId=2240
when finished reading first page, click the "read more" tab left center of article
Or you can take my word for it without hitting the links. Body of article in it's entirety below.
IMO Muhittin Sirer is rubbing elbows with the right business men
Jimstr
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TSKB, Turkey's First Bank With Environment Certificate, Launches Project To Increase Social Environmental Awareness:
"Environment: Our Priority"
TSKB organized a press meeting on May 2, 2007, to announce its environment-focused corporate social responsibility project. The project called "Environment: Our Priority" aims at increasing the social environmental awarenesss, and comprises some complementary activities. Under the scope of the project, first the Environment Ambassadors who will support the project were determined. Then, cevreciyiz.com, an environment portal with a rich content, was created. Within the context of the project, a day in nature will be organized in summer and a conference called "Environment: Our Priority" will be realized in autumn.
Turkey's first private investment and development bank Türkiye Sinai Kalkinma Bankasi A.S. (the Industrial Development Bank of Turkey – TSKB) organized a press meeting on May 2, 2007, at Cennet Bahçesi (Garden of Eden) to announce its corporate social responsibility project called "Environment: Our Priority". In his opening speech, TSKB General Manager Halil Eroglu said that in this fast-changing world the most common concern of humanity was environment and its disturbed balances, that awareness on environmental responsibility had gained importance within the banking industry as well in recent years, and that many companies worldwide were creating and implementing environmental risk management programs.
Eroglu also remarked that they believed in the power of education and sharing information so as to leave a more healthy physical and social environment to future generations for a livable world and a sustainable life, and that the project "Environment: Our Priority" was born thanks to this unique idea.
In his speech, TSKB Assistant General Manager Semseddin Arat stated that depending on TSKB's efforts on environment financing for many years, they started working on a long-term corporate social responsibility project in the beginning of 2007, and continued: "As the first and only Bank with Turkish capital to receive the ISO 14001 Environmental Management System Standard Certificate in Turkey, we combined the Bank's social responsibility awareness with its goal of becoming Turkey's Environment Bank. The aim of the project is to create a platform that will bring together all parties interested in environmental issues, to increase the awareness of the society, and to enable people of all ages to make positive and permanent changes in their behaviors by improving their motives to preserve nature."
TSKB finances the investment projects of industrial and service companies by taking into consideration the environmental risks of enterprises and projects which the Bank has been financing since 1950. The Bank undertakes significant activities for environment in Turkey through its Environment Loans and Renewable Energy Loans.
Environment Ambassadors
Under the scope of the "Environment: Our Priority" project, first a group named "Environment Ambassadors" was formed to communicate the project to the widest possible audience, and to enable the project to be brought into the public agenda frequently and continuously. The group comprises many renowned and pioneering names from various disciplines such as art, science, media and business world across Turkey.
The "Environment Ambassadors" include the following names: Prof. Dr. Ahmet Demir, Prof. Dr. Ali Rana Atilgan, Atilla Uras, Ayhan Atakol, Bünyamin Sürmeli, Yrd. Doç. Dr. Can Bizsel, Cem Orkun Kiraç, Ediz Hun, Doç Dr. Erdem Görgün, Galip Tuna Eroglu, Dr. Harun Güçlüsoy, Jale Yilmabasar, Kerem Okumus, Levent Ballar, Melih Asik, Meral Tamer, Dr. Metin Sözen, Mikdat Kadioglu, Muhittin Sirer, Müjde Ar, Orhan Bursali, Doç. Dr. Orhan Gökay, Prof. Dr. Orhan Yenigün, Osman Arolat, Özcan Yüksek, Rauf Ates, Sedat Ergin, Dr. Sibel Sezer Eralp, Suade Arançli, Tülay Zihli, Yalçin Savuran, Yesim Beyla and Zafer Kizilkaya.
cevreciyiz.com
The communication channel of the project cevreciyiz.com was opened and is planned to be the most comprehensive environment portal ever created. At cevreciyiz.com, there are news on environment; researches and articles from academics, non-governmental organizations and professionals interested in environment; special environment files; environment legislation; a corporate to-do-list to comply with the legislation; individual and enterprise success stories; virtual photography exhibitions of famous nature photographers; and some tools to evaluate the environment agenda in Turkey and abroad together with the environmental approaches and risks, and to make constructive suggestions. Besides, there are sections for the young and children.
A Day In Nature
The Bank will organize a day in nature in summer with the cooperation of non-governmental organizations interested in environmental issues. On this specific day people of all ages will spend an enjoyable day in nature, and various activities will be organized.
Environment Conference and Awards
The Bank will organize a conference called "Environment: Our Priority" in autumn, where environmental issues will be handled from various perspectives, and many foreign and local speakers will participate. The conference will be a platform where successful environment projects will be brought into the public agenda, and government, universities, non-governmental organizations and business world will come together. Within the context of the conference, Environment Awards will be given, too.
MSGSU Statue Contest
The statues to be given as Environment Awards will be chosen from the award-winning works in the statue contest organized among the students of Mimar Sinan University. All statues of the participants will also be exhibited.
Non-Governmental Organizations
The "Environment: Our Priority" project is supported by many non-governmental organizations and societies such as TURMEPA (Turkish Marine Environment Protection Association), TEMA (The Turkish Foundation for Combating Soil Erosion, for Reforestation and the Protection of Natural Habitats), REC (Regional Environmental Center), ÇEKÜL (The Foundation for the Promotion and Protection of the Environment and Cultural Heritage), WWF-Turkey (World Wildlife Fund) and ÇEVKO (Environmental Protection and Packaging Waste Revovery and Recycling Trust).
Page 2 of article
The deterioration in the environment and the environmental equilibrium, which has become the most important common problem of humanity, takes an increasingly important place in the agenda of the world.
Within recent years environmental responsibility has started to exert its importance on the banking sector. Many organizations in the world are in the process of developing and implementing environmental risk management programs.
TSKB (Industrial Development Bank of Turkey), which has been financing the investment projects of the industrial and service sectors since the year 1950, takes into account the possible existence and the management of the environmental risks associated with the projects funded and the companies financed. TSKB has furthermore been involved in important environment related activities in Turkey through the loans extended for the protection of the environment as well as the loans provided for investments in renewable energy. TSKB is the first Turkish Bank to obtain an ISO 14001 environment certification.
In line with this vision and environment related finance accomplished in the past years as our starting point, we as TSKB have put into motion a comprehensive social responsibility project on the subject of "environment", targeting to become the Environmental Bank of Turkey.
The purpose of the project, "Environment: Our Priority", is to establish a platform that will bring all the sections of society together on the subject of environment and to improve the level of knowledge and awareness of the people while helping develop their willingness to stand up for the environmental values regardless of their age and to support any positive and permanent behavioral changes on the subject of environment.
With our group of "Environmental Ambassadors", comprising of people who have been a success in the fields of art, science, media and business, setting examples for the rest of the society, we aim to spread the project to the most extensive population of people possible, while targeting to take a permanent place in the agenda of the public.
The communication channel of the project, "cevreciyiz.com" became operational as of the 2nd of May 2007, targeting to be the most comprehensive portal available on the subject of environment. Through this portal, news pertaining to the environment are presented along with the research studies, articles, and texts of the academicians, non-governmental organizations, medical doctors and all the professional people who have an interest in the subject together with the special files on environment, applicable legislation on environment, institutional steps to be taken to be in compliance with the legislation on environment, the individual and institutional stories of success, the virtual photography exhibitions of famous photographers of nature, the agenda of Turkey and the world on the subject, and some specific tools that are utilized in measuring benefits of the environmental approaches as well as the risks involved. As such, the objective is to develop an environmental consciousness in the society. There are also special sections oriented towards the young people and children in this portal.
A "Nature Day" was arranged in cooperation with NGOs in June 2007. We spent a day with the public, surrounded with nature and organized events that provided information on how to protect and preserve the nature.
Furthermore, in the "Environment: Our Priority" Conference organized in December, reputable foreign and Turkish speakers discussed the subject of environment from various aspects, bringing the successful projects on the subject of environment to the attention of the public. The aim of this conference was to set the ground for a platform that will bring together the people from the public sector, universities, NGOs and the world of business.
The "Environment" titled Sculpture Competition that was organized with Mimar Sinan Fine Arts University has also special importance. 30 pieces of work of art that took place in the competition are being published on cevreciyiz.com's "Photography Exhibition" section.
In the years ahead, TSKB will continue with similar projects to improve the level of knowledge and awareness of the people on the subject of environment
"For an inhabitable world, your priority must also be "Environment"
Nice consolidation after the pullback
Very healthy for the stock
chart looking good here. Back within the bollies
Money flow and ACCUM/DIST turned back up
a couple more days of this and we make the next move
Any more news comes out...all the better
Have a great weekend
Jimstr
22'S UP
.021 X .0215
2X1
21's ticking HOD coming
True, im many cases flippers will exit on Friday but this company is PR'ing deals daily
The next PR could come AH...American Distributor?
I'm holding
Jimstr
we should all move our sell orders to .05 @exactly 3pm and see what L2 does
oops
lol
great call Stimulus
WDRP is assaulting the ask
eat my dust shorty!!!
oops...only took 120k
.02'sup
wont be long...200k at the ask ought to do it
eom
I think we will push thru .02 and possibly test .025
Exactly...Merril Lynch numbers plastered all over the PR was done to hide the fact that their janitor bought a couple bottles of product from the local supplier.
It stinks just like the We're Lovin' it BS from their sister stock
Market wasn't fooled...back to .002 and falling
Just makes management look like fools
Shorty is trying to cover....make 'em pay...hold your shares!
Jimstr
Glad you're here PH
This is right up your alley and I'm looking forward to your imput
Jimstr
no Problem Judy....glad to help
Jimstr
another familiar name...what's been happening Derek?
I love how the good investors always find the winners.
Looking forward to your DD
Jimstr
Best way I can explain it is this:
Look at the bid and the ask as a stalemate. The one who makes the next move determines if it is a buy or a sell.
If the bidder moves up and hits the ask, it's a buy
If the seller moves down and meets the bid, it's a sell
Trades at bid are considered sells
Trades at ask are considered buys
trades between a spread are ???
Jimstr
You need to venture out beyond the limits of Ft Wayne stocks that you seem impelled to post on. It limits your perspective
Shorted stocks and short covers happen all day long
Jimstr1
You know you've said 'that's crazy' after a friend tells you a long story during which you completely spaced out because it was boring or you just didnt care.
hold your shares...make shorty pay
imo
Jimstr
thinking ouyside the box here...hold your giggles to the end
If we are to assume that Mark has the NOBO list by now
any chance that the 50,000,000 shares alluded to in yesterday's PR refers to shorty having to cover 54,000,000?
thus taking us into the .002's plus?
just a thought...
Jimstr
well I'm out of ammo...thx for the cheapies
let the cover begin
Jimstr
very good trade strategy...make and take profits...ride the houses money
well done,
Jimstr
Just puting this out there for all the flippers , but if anyone is thinking they can sell now and buy a dip, I want you to know I have already put in some subtantial buy orders in at staggered levels...
in other words, get in line and pick up the scraps I leave
I will buy, buy, buy your shares.
I dont believe I am alone either.
This group may want shares at any cost.
"Mike The Pike Productions, Inc. announces that it has secured a group of private investors to purchase up to 50,000,000 shares of the company's common stock over
the next week at .002 or more on behalf of the company and its shareholders to ensure a larger holding ratio by long-term investors"
the plea agreement (http://ocbiz.freedomblogging.com/files/2010/02/Brown-plea-2010-02-171.pdf )
says the judge can imprison Matt up to 20 yrs based on the federal guideline.
Here it is...all kinds of penalty points can be added to the base points to determine sentence
base level of 6 for fraud..add all the extras and I believe Matt ended up with an offense level of 36
http://www.ussc.gov/2009guid/2b1_1.htm
The judge has stated that for pleading guilty he will knock off 2 level points and another level point if matt is over 16.
facing 20 yrs, Matt must have accumulated a basis offense level of 36(188-235 months 15.6 yrs-19.58 yrs)) assuming he is in criminal history category 1 (no priors)
after the judge takes off 3 points, matt would be at level 33 (135-168 months) which is 11.25-14.0 yrs)
sentencing table
http://www.ussc.gov/2009guid/5a_SenTab.htm
Rest easy. R/S wont happen until all the other uplisting requirements have been met. And then only as a last resort.
uplisting requires a minimum of 2 consecutive audited quarterly's.
MIKP isn't going to Audit Q1
Audited fins are starting after Q2
MIKP wouldn't be eligible to uplist until after Q3 (Oct?)
And if all the other requirements are met except the share price minimum, I say do it Mark!
get us on a higher tier and leave pinky land
IMO
Jimstr
Sorry Thurston, but that PR sucked!!!
I was perfectly content in holding millions of shares I bought around .0006
Now, with the flick of a pen, Mark has forced me to buy more @.0016 and increase my average per share.
Buy back? retirement of shares? Dividends?
Sheesh,
Jimstr
Dave,
Nice to see you here...Scott turned me on to another well DD'd company.
Still, as you say, "trading what I see"
I'm liking this one
Jimstr
Dude,
You owe me a new monitor...this one just shorted out.
I have to remember not to be drinking liquids while reading your posts.
great PR today
Jimstr
I'm lovin' it
sorry you missed the boat today...gonna gap up again tomorrow
FWIW
BTW...looks like Gavin Ovens Holdings PTY LTD review of anticipated sales has been narrowed down.
Friday's PR
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Wanderport-Signs-Multi-Year-Australian-Distribution-Agreement-Valued-at-50-Million-1116661.htm
Sales commitments are being reviewed and negotiated but preliminary estimates are in the area of 10,000 units within the first year and the aggregate sales are valued at $50 million over a period of 5 years.
Today's PR
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Wanderport-Receives-Increased-Sales-Commitment-From-Australia-to-123-Million-USD-1117799.htm
upon further review and negotiations, Gavin Ovens Holdings PTY LTD has augmented its sales and distribution commitment and revenue estimates.
Based on the terms of the contract, management now estimates revenues from the recently announced $50 million to be increased to $123 million, representing 275,000 units over 5 years.
They gave us a very conservative estimate on Friday and now that negotiations are complete, a more accurate figure
IMO
Jimstr