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LOL. Still two more years till statute of limitations runs out. I am surprised I still have the shares in my account.
I suppose tho that this thread will still be going.
Megas said he'd contribute to the fund,and perhaps I will if he ever makes another positive pr OR he actually sends the money to the fund.
Perhaps he does entertain intentions of resolving this thing but dont believe he will ever make it happen or even cares anymore. The thing is I have been coming to this forum for five years,and dont know if I have another five years left.
If it ever does get resolved, I dont believe I'll be around to enjoy it if TD WAterhouse doesnt swipe my shares first.
Hope springs eternal, and be nice if I was wrong...
LOL. Look at the past 15 or 20 posts and see whose name pops up in response to any postings folks make. Its always been that way so nothing new there. In your defense tho if it wasnt for your continuous postings there wouldnt be anything new to read...
That said the stock and company is what it is.
Herbster, the volume from Dec exceeds 700M...no dilution. Just bide your time, There are just so many shares and the given the volume lately its getting ripe.
I think your brainless friend might have learned something about supply and demand from the experience. Perhaps if your nice, he'll impart some of his wisdom to you.
Have you ever teased a mean dog that was tied up just to hear him growl and groan?
There is no new info. All the dd you pumped was incorrect or false. So when we yank your chain its purely for entertainment value...
You are just too easy man!
Hey Jux, its been so long I forget the outcome of you wanting to see the company books per company by-laws. Perhaps there is someone else who wants to take up the fight of getting info - any info.
Im sure Rodney will be avoiding picking up the phone while hanging out at the General store munching on product.
Bell Buckle Country Store Inc, and Bell Buckle Holdings Inc are one and he same, now sharing same address I believe. Try and get ahold of management tho.
Im very interested in the name of the corp that signs the workers paychecks at the plant.
If I lived in the area I would go dumpster diving for admin paperwork if nothing else. Im betting a few beers down at the local watering hole might be enough to find out what we need to know.
Seriously Biz, you should have moved on about a year ago when you passed off 104M shares to your niece. To make matters worse you went and started collecting shares again...
Nothing againsgt ya personally Biz but I hate big shareholders cuz when they decide to dump it really hurts pps. A run killer for sure.
Usually though they are the ones shouting To da moon to da moon as they are slapping the sell button and hitting the bid...
So, I hope like hell you are only kidding about holding another 50M, and if you really do, please pm me before you dump Haha. No seriously, when ya do decide, please do it in small sells over a period of days and no bid slappin'!!!
Hey....I think the company is gonna get busy selling shares soon. I heard a rumour that Rodney is now so fat he cannot get through the doors so they are moving to a new building with doors that roll up. Garage doors I think they are called....
LOL. GLTY - Im still a putz and waiting for that "two weeks" to finally end. the pr will be on its way hahaha.
P.
The object of the game after all is buy low sell higer, not buy high sell lower. .0003 is about the bottom but may occasionally touch .0002
GLTY.
Monda,.002 would be easy if we had any kind of management and minimal pr.
Anyhow,at .0003 you cant go too far wrong with current share structure, UNLESS ...
If we havent been swindled somehow, our shares should be worth ten times that by now with all the huge sales they have.
Calling the Bell Buckle Holdings Inc. number gets you the Bell Buckle country store, and no ones answering.
I did not find a listing for Bell Buckle Holdings Inc. in Farmington.
There is no current news for Bainbridge Foods other than it still maintains its street address and is conducting business as usual.
I figure if we havent been swindled then at some point the Simmons family will again have use for shareholders when they need further expansion. For that they will need positive pr.
If they company has maintained steady growth, business should be a couple million in annual sales, with the bottle neck coming in the form of availability of cheap fresh local product.
All one can really do after purchasing the stock is to sit and wait and hope for the best LOL.
Biz did actually visit the manufacturing facilty BTW.
Sold your free Bllb shares because of us? Isnt that like cutting off your nose to spite your face?
The idea of holding free shares is risk reduction. There free. NO risk. If pps skyrockets, its all blue sky for you.
Next I suppose you'll tell us you sold them at current prices instead of .0009
First you buy on falsely posted Costco info, bag and nice profit, and then let it turn to crap.
If you sold at .0009 congrats. The only reason one should speculate in pinks is to make money - period.
However, the current pps is the one you should buy if your that hot about bllb LOL.
Some find bllb like their own personal atm given its trading history. Buy low, wait a month or so, and sell on a double. Happens like clockwork almost.
The run to a penny undoubtably brought some new posters, but the smart ones made their money and now re-loading for next months run.
If ya cant beat em, join em. The new ones will catch on soon enough. Who knows maybe a pr will actually materialize...
Used to be assistant mod but gave up. too much off topic stuff like the last eight or so posts.
First five words of sentence should contain topic, talking/discussing other posters is also OT.
Admin reviews deletions daily, and they either stick or reposted.
That said, Welcome all new bagholders LOL. Us oldtimer bagholders appreciate the company. Misery loves company LOL.
GLTA - P.
Yeah, I got a kick outta that also. Some things dont change I guess.
Two weeks, two months, two years...whats the diff LOL.
$280,000 market cap is why many of us oldtimers still here. Should be a lot more but it is what it is, and with no information to go on we can only blame the Simmons.
That is what I think is on most of us oldtimers mind. The simmons seems to like community stuff and seem very involved. Even one on the chamber of commerce or used to be (sent her a email some time back LOL) - no answer of course.
Then I posted a public enquiry on American towns asking anyone from bell buckle to answer a few simple questions as we have not heard from Simmons family after a few years. Kinda public.
Still nothin.
I think the Simmons family figured out a way to live the kind of small town life they love, and get out of the publicly traded company side of things. They were pretty investor minded when they needed to raise money though.
There is a LOT of bell buckle product being sold these days,but not sure we are actually a part of it anymore. After all, if they have not swindled us somehow, then why the silent treatment?
I notice that some of the old brand names of bllb are not listed on the bell buckle country store site at all, and there is no current address for Bell Buckle Holdings Inc in Farmington, and no phone number I can find. The old company website is down and does not exist anymore.
If there is any phone number at all for the company, it is the country store, where I talked to Rodney. We know the new manufacturing facility is still there kicking out product and shipping it everywhere, but there are no phone numbers to it anymore.
If no pr soon,maybe someone close will drive there and talk to a few people. What is scary is that I asked rodney to confirm that bllb shareholders still had a piece of the pie (Bell Buckle products and companies), and he refused to comment, stating a pr would be out soon explaining everything...
Could be good, could be bad, but at least we will finally know if we are screwed or not. Only 675M OS or thereabouts, and a good part of that already traded over last little while.
Shares will be drying up soon no matter if pr comes or not.
I googled it one time and found articles on companies signing up like it was a happening thing already. Musta been phony I guess because if it was true, certainly Megas would be all over like fleas on a dog.
There should be a Megas update soon hopefully. Be great if it was actually from the man himself. Once a year maybe twice is not too much to ask?
Biz, the phony costco thing on American towns was taken down days ago. It was probly put there by a new poster here, or one of those internet stock pumping companies.
Rodney when asked just laughed and said he wished, but vehemently denied the information. He did say a pr was coming out from Bell Buckle, but I did not get the impression it was gonna be good, but rather explain why the company is not answering phone calls, emails, or any other enquiries, so we will quit bugging them.
After the grief we oldtimers have given them, I guess it time they let us know the jig is up and not to bother them anymore.
Other than nothing much has turned up except Rodney is now listed as President, and we have two board members who are involved in digital imaging. I suspect they do the labelling for the products and assist them in shipping/tracking of product.
As one board member is in California, one might wanna check to see if we have market penetration there (Walmart, Sears,Kmart, etc.).
Im holding till I hear what the company has got to say about the current state of affairs or watching the pps to see when us old bagholders can be replaced with the new ones LOL. Why not let them do their thing and get the pps up a tad? No harm in that eh?
This company should be in the pennies with the current share structure and AS of 1B. It is afterall pulling profit and has been for some time according to previous dd. I'll check back later this week and see if she is gonna pop or bust (again).
GLTY - P.
"A share holder needs to actually find them adn go over TO their Farm / office....and REMIND THEM that they are a publically traded Co. and they need to be reporting SOMETHING"
They WILL be releasing somethig (hey Jux you'll like this - spoke to Captn again)shortly, I think more along the line of a shareholder letter explaining whats what.
BTW- before they went dark, I believe the OS was calculated at about 675M.
Only useful information I have gotten from Rodney over the past few years is that the company owns (acquired)approximately 11 acres adjoining property. But...thats the CAptn speaking and not verified by any pr.
So...what level 2 lookin like?
sell on a friday buy on a monday lol.
you can have mine at .002
No news is good news at this point. Let it run on rumor.
bllb breakin out?? No news for three years, rumour of pinksheets update coming, possible pr according to one poster who allegedly spoke with a company rep.
We have heard this before many times, but perhaps this time its true? Have held this doggy for some time. Woof woof.
Low floater 670M - 800M AS of 1M
Has being doing solid sales through sears,walmart cabelas and many supermarket chains. Yee GAds,a profitable pinkie???
Do your own dd,very risky play as it pops every now and then, but nothing like this.
BLLB flying, whats up with that? AS 1M OS estim.670M
Yeah, reading over my last post I had to chuckle a little too LOL.
The company is what it is, a pink with debt but also some decent revenues/contracts to start off with. Despite all the allegations of the company being a scam, I havent seen any links to proof the pr's were BS. Im very surprised they even released names of certain companies signing on.
I correctly predicted the AS increase before RS implemented, but why only 4B has me stumped as its just pocket change at current pps. RS is just part of the game in pinkyland and to be expected.
Looking forward to next financials and further progress pr's. I mostly enjoy reading your post Smilin, so Im glad you got a chuckle from the recent postings.
My other hobby is designing and building torsion powered sports weaponry so most of my spare money gets spent on prototyping with the occasional dollar or two thrown into sshs averaging down after poorly timed purchases.
Currently a bagholder but nothing a bump to .001 wouldnt fix right now.
When Smilin makes statements about the company or management, he provides proof in the form of links. Something you dont do very often.
When broad statements like the company has pr'd revenues in excess of 100M, or even in your last post about tens of millions in debt...
Had you provided me with more than insinuations I probly wouldnt have bought in and wouldnt be posting here LOL.
I've always been aware of your agenda as you stated it very plainly here: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=39097558 so there is no mistake there.
I must say you kept to your promise, except for the last one regarding the publishing of financials LOL.
This is a pond where bigger fish eat smaller fish. Like other bagholders at this point, Im hoping for a run and need someone to buy my shares at a higher price. You do your best to run it down and discourage any new investment or investors, so we are bound to be at loggerheads.
Just the way it is my friend.
I dont remember that post being addressed to you, but since you asked so nicely, it has to do with having less than two hundred shareholders.
Wait a minute, wasnt it you who swore an oath to "warn" potential new investors regarding sshs because of the Gelmons and Ribotsky involvement in sshs?
As for my post mr busybody, I was not "suggesting" anything, but again you take/use my post, and change/turn it around to further serve your own agenda(s).
Lotsa folks loaded at .0001 and will be happy to let you take it off their hands at .0002 or maybe hold out for .0003
Financials and shareholder letter not the catalyst we wished for perhaps but still a step forward. Not a lot of volume with existing shareholder base, and dont see that changing anytime real soon.
Oh yeah, civic holiday here north of the border and the end of a nice long weekend.
Ignorant hopefullness or calculated risk? hmmmm. Thats a tuffy. I'd like to say my money spent here was calculated risk that the company would at some point put out financials and a shareholder letter, which now has come to pass.
What happens next is up to the larger market (company has less than 200 folks who own stock), but it is interesting to note that even if the OS was maxed out to 4B, a pps of .001 would give it a market cap of four million.
The financials were for 2009 and do not reflect a lot of new business that has or will come online to produce revs for 2010.
The company seems to be overcoming the challenges of 2009 with increasing revenue gaining momentum.
My way of thinking is that another year down the road, perhaps we will see Safeguard franchises popping up in cities all over the USA, Mexico, Columbia. Much of the high margin component is electronic.
Some areas are of such high growth a bottleneck has been created and once dealt with we will have a new market in the Nuclear industry, which the company says could potentially double the size of the company near term.
We should soon be seeing more pr's on Mexico and company training facilities Im hoping. Either way, I dont expect the company to begin servicing debt from revenues till last quarter this year.
If the company needs to sell more stock, they need to expand shareholder base which is not happening despite good pr. NOw that the company has announced its intention to service debt from revenues, I expect we will see a little more transparancy in the form of more financials showing revenue growth. That can only be a good thing IF everything pr'd is true.
Could be a monsta sometime but not anytime soon. I do not mind if Im wrong and shareholder base doubles over next quarter. All in all, its a pinky and anything could happen over the next six months. sshs is down but not out despite the best efforts of some to discredit the company and stock.
Lets see what happens this week but for sure this thing is overdue for some kind of run!
I didnt expect it to be on site till after 4pm.
if its a good one, buzz will go out this weekend for Monday am buying.
Monday, perhaps an pr announcing financials and shareholders update. Maximum coverage?
With any luck at all, some mention will be made to deal with CD. For some of us, this is the event we have gambled on actually happening and lo and behold...
GLTA - P.
Im not holding my breath, but it will be nice to see an effort however transparant.
SSHS releasing financials on the 30th according to todays pr. 4B AS with at least half of that OS.
Yikes, financials coming out:
Safeguard Security Holdings, Inc. (OTC:SSHS), a provider of corporate, industrial and residential security solutions, announces today that it will release its financials on Friday, July 30th.
R. Michael Lagow, CEO for Safeguard, stated, “We were delayed in our efforts to release our financials to the public based on several issues related to a conversion process with three different accounting platforms that we inherited as we acquired different business units over the past few years.” Lagow added, “The latest financials and corporate newsletter will be downloaded to our Safeguard website on Friday, July 30th, 2010.”
Well, lets see just how much of last years pr was BS. The financials was something I had hoped for and gambled on. So the jig will be up and so should the pps be headed perhaps.
I need a break LOL.
I would be happy just to know that the stock we own is the same company who makes and sells all those products being sold on the bell buckle website and we are not holding a just a empty shell.
Thats the weird thing about this one. From all appearances they appear to be doing a brisk business and pulling a profit. Walmart CAbela's etc.
OS was only about 600 - 700 M as I recall.
Well, RS or no, a subsidiary spin-off looks to be in the cards sometime in the future. If the fish in one pond wont bite, move to the next pond. No huge amounts of stock being pawned off here without some major pump.
I still say this dog can run on NO news, just because its a pink - however unlikely it seems. Nothin else to do but wait anyhow LOL.
There is one incidence where court intervention worked out so that investors were able to recover money (if they were smart and took profits)and that stock is where a CEO used a finacier like an ATM and diluting the snot outta it similar to this one.
Stock was turned over to the financier who immediately dumped it on the market. Turned out the stock was supposed to be restricted for a period of time, and secondly the proper paperwork was not filled out and filed.
The net result was "chill" on trading which only served to put a "chill" on the CEO peforming an RS or further diluting it (only 300000 shares remained till AS maxed).
The stock still continue to trade and a huge engineered run was had allowing me to exit with a nice profit instead of huge loss.
For sshs I would not be surprised to see a JR pulled off here (usse and sstp) where a lot of the "assets" are transferred to a subsidiary who then gets their own trading symbol.
If you are that upset about things why not look into the company bylaws and see if there are any clauses that allow shareholders to inspect books. Then you would have a clearer idea of just what or how much of the prs are bs...
Im also down big time so I feel the hurt, but for the life of me cannot think of a winning argument to get my money back. In the end it boils down to that despite all warnings about previous and management practices, and what the most basic of dd will show, I made a big mistake, or rather several of them.
I made a bet against long shot odds and lost. At best investing in pinkies are tantamount to gambling at a casino where the odds are hugely stacked against you.
This stock has more red flags sticking out than a porcupine has quills. But still we throw money at pinkies in the hope of a big payoff. If you bring a big wad of money into a room you know is chock full of pick pockets and cut throats, dont be surprised if you dont leave with your money still in your pocket.
Seriously though Im interested in just what exactly is your complaint,and what action do you expect? Even SEC failed to nail these guys, but SEC is pretty useless anyway...
All the same best of luck to you, but my money seems to have said bye bye, and I have no one else to blame but myself. If you want insurance on your trades get into options.
hardlesson its my way of thinking that with a complete suite of electronic services available, we might one day see franchises. Aside from selling shares (LOL) the gelmons are also experienced and highly successful in this field.
Canada, US, Mexico, Columbia, all re-occuring income and multiple offices signing on new clients around the clock.
Once the new and larger training facilities are completed and staffed the company will see new growth, especially with armed guard services Im thinking. The new Nuclear market should keep them busy for a while.
As the company grows larger and larger, so does the amount of capital required for expansion. Stock alone will not do it in any case - especially at the pps and volume it has been doing lately. An RS at this point would not deliver any benefit.
While I agree dilution has and is going on, the company has pr'd they are indeed growing the company by leaps and bounds revenue wise. I would not minding hearing from the company where they are at in monthly billings.
I suspect the OS still has a little way to go before hitting the 2B mark, or if it already has the volume is very little. At some point the company will have to deal with the pps if share sales are to be anything more than a few thousands dollars worth on a daily basis.
Anyhow GLTY.
April May June aprox. 2.25 B total volume...April highest volume month at 1B and fast decline.
I can see a 1 for 100 split bringing sp to a penny, but maxing out the current AS and then a 1 for 500 or higher is a dread. Hoping to last out the summer without the RS as volume declines further.
JMHO but seems an rs right now would serve little purpose as pps would have more room to go down even further than .0001 LOL.
Again if anyone can prove the pr's are BS and provide links to dd Im sure all would love to hear it. I like the mental picture of sshs the pr's are able to paint, but sure as hell hate the stock as the Ribotsky debt seems something the company can and should take care of.
Thats the pr I'd sure like to see.
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Too bad sshs a scam eh?
The tailings he is working is in the hundreds on millions of tons.
That he is finding big nugs kinds seems like mining to me. What has me curious is that the rights Megas has claimed with surrounding landowners mirrors that of another mining company who also claims on having things pretty much sewed up. Invincible mining or similar, privately owned by an Australian dude working out of Vancouver Canada.
Hey I've bought my ticket already and finally things are getting interesting. Im hoping TDW is not gonna wipe my shares out, Im kinda used to visting this board. Four or five years worth. More?
LOL. Statute of limitations must be approaching for any wrongdoing LOL. Its been a lonnnnng trip for sure and wondering when it will finally end- one way or the other.
Soon more and more folks will have shares evaporate from their accounts. My turn maybe approaching. Tuff titty says Megas?
Ultimately it lies with the shareholders to demand accountability of management and financial responsibility. No one here including me has a clue as to what has happened to the company.
There is no available current paperwork to give even a hint of where we stand. I have no clue on why this POS is still trading.
What we bought into a long time ago might be completely different to what is left - if anything.
It be nice for longtime shareholders to get together and have a investigation done. All indications were that the company was profitable and undergoing expansion.
Where is our piece of the pie? Do we still own any piece of the pie? Why is this POS still trading?
This is pinkyland and shareholders almost never get anything kind of legal stuff happening. NO diff. here. IF the simmons family have gotten away with anything, its because we have done nothing.
- Bottom line is we still dont have a clue about what we do or do not have a stake in if anything.
I look at it as a write off, but if we had a chance of putting the responsible Simmons people on the curb I'd put money into it. Nothing will happen here, same old, same old.