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Less than a year
I have no clue if orders are coming. I do think the product is a step above its competitors.
Those are left over from the very cut down STAMPAS(sp?) program. This has been planed for a while. The size and deployability are the big difference. These are no comparison to the bib. Jmho
Not sure what that is supposed to mean. That post was not directed at you. I don't think I have ever pumped anything with this stock. Only expressed my opinion about the market and my belief in management. No one here has to listen to me just like no one has to listen to cole, coastish, or anyone else. It is up to each individual to make their own big boy or big girl decisions.
Again, so angry. It's not good for your health. As i said before, I know plenty of people with skin in the game. Both big and small. Some I personally care for, others I don't care at all. Either way, I could easily be at the shareholders meeting if I had chosen to.
I'm not trying to pick another fight. Considering the fact that I have not lost a dime on this stock, I think my perspective is just fine. I'm still rooting for the longs and will join you when I feel it is appropriate.
BTW, Brio was listed as an example of many of the dilutive factors over the last four years. I am aware that they should be out of shares at this point (assuming they sold all of them).
Why are you so mad at me for not buying shares yet? Is it because you lost a boat load of money (in just the last year)? I never told you to buy anything. If you are mad at someone be mad at the person that twisted your arm. I have made my position clear that I am waiting on dilution issues to clear up and I plan to ride the first sustainable rise. It's not my fault you had no clue that dilution was an ongoing issue with Brio, LJC and a host of others.
I know your DD is limited but you do know that GTC was acquired under GE's tenure, right?
I'm not going to give you a free constitutional or comparative law lecture. Our legal system is based on the English comon law which is an ever evolving creature. The law 15 years ago is not necessarily the law now. The constitution provides the basis by which we develop laws. Laws come into being and can change just as quickly. Just look at how many times the ACA has changed by presidential decree (now that's a violation of the constitution).
Quick edit. You and Coasti bring up the constitution. Where in the constitution is the word patent? Anywhere?
I don't disagree with anything you said except on the document. I read it. It would be the equivalent of a blog post now. Some guy's opinion on the state of the law 15 years ago. Yes we are based on the constitution but laws change and adapt as time moves forward. Something Coasti can't do.
Hahahahahah. Too good. In support of your argument you post a link to a fifteen year old article (not even a binding legal document) that has nothing to do with WSGI. Keep up the misinformation campaign. You are only educating the new posters of your extreme bias.
Good one, and good night good sir. One quick post on anti government drone surveilance techniques in America.
http://www.businessinsider.com/raging-hockey-fans-destroy-lapd-drone-2014-6
I meant no disrespect with the timeline. took over 1,000 shots over the last two days.
I believe he is out now. If you want I'll track him down for you so you can pee with him again. You can reminisce about how much that scam artist took from you.
Bank, Based on our limited interaction on this board I am pleased that you have gotten involved. You certainly know your optics.
Hahah. Love that one. His motive is clear. He lost a bunch of money to huff and is taking it out on people that had nothjng to do with it. He is bragging about what? Coasti did you at least pee on his shoes? That would be worth bragging about. That's about as much influence you ever have had over his case.
It's pending and everyone knows it despite your misinformation campaign.
So by not answering me you admit you have no clue what rights kroplin has and where they are valid. I got it now. Thanks.
Pending patents provide certain rights that can be violated by others, Coasti. Weak wordsmithing again.
Because you have said it a few times now...
Care to share what patents kroplin ownes for the Argus and where these are effective? Please don't just answer "because coastie said so".
So you admit you were wrong or at a very minimum misleading in all those posts. Thanks. I'm done playing tonight. Ill respond to your post some other time.
No worries. Your choice. I like the tech and the people involved. Im going to make the best investment if that's what I choose to do.
Im only calling you out because you asked me to:
"My research shows that while WSGI/Eastcor applied for a patent, they received a response back that the ARGUS was not patentable and the intellectual property claimed in their application belonged to others."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=102373630
You cant apply for a patent through the PCT. PCT issues no patents anywhere in the world. So, you are wrong.
"Until then, their opinion is the only one that matters."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=102376448
wrong
"I also know that the Written Opinion of the International Search Authority is the primary document referred to when a patent granting authority such as the US Patent Office is determining the grant of a patent."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=102380826
wrong
" WSGI had two months after receiving the International Search Results to amend their claims. They didn't respond. The patent application has been, in effect, abandoned."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=102381269
wrong
"WSGI made their claims to USPTO who completed an international search and reported their results. The results were not favorable to WSGI as virtually every claim was found to lack novelty or an inventive step over the intellectual rights of Kroplin and others."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=103191651
wrong
You have been feeding the board your BS legal mumbo jumbo without understanding what you are actually talking about. Or you are intentionally misleading to cause a change in share price? The company filed a document with the pct based on the uspto pending patent application to allow for priority of filing in other countries. All the letter says is that the Dr or others may have claims to certain parts of the technology in certain limited countries. either know what you are talking about or be quiet. it only makes you look worse.
I also came across this:
"A monthly synopsis of death spiral financing and the use of "cash true up" provisions to bypass floor price protection."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=90337808
So you agree that WSGI has claims? Based solely on your previous legal skills I think I may doubt that now. Thanks for the clarification.
. I was on mobile device and cya is just an easy way to type the concept. I agree with your post
An 8k was filed for the shareholder letter. Military knows CYA in any industry.
No I'm referring to the multiple times you reported to this board that wsgi's patent application was denied. That is 100% wrong and I think you have finally educated yourself enough to realize that.
"PCT report received pretty much nixes any attempt to patent WSGI's existing claims" that is not what letter said, that's not how the treaty works and it is just your layman (non-attorney) opinion.
I agree with everything you said. There is a distinction between operating in a foreign country and selling there.
The STS and the Argus are very different. I'm glad you agree with me now on the effect of the PCT letter.
Thanks for the clarification but once again you are wrong. "Patent grants are based on their research". Incorrect. Each country decides on its own the patentability. The treaty is to establish international priority dates for competing claims. The treaty letter was just telling us that there may be competing claims out there in other countries.
The document from which you quoted was torn up and superseded by the separation agreement. And yes we kept the pos he gave us out of the deal.
As for iP, a quick lesson: there is so much more to ip than patents. The website has copy right protections. I'm pretty sure WSGI and Argusone names are Tademarked. So again you are incorrect and misinforming the board.
You don't like psyops. Ok. Ill call it like it is BS. And you are full of it. You were yelling and screaming about patentability and you are wrong so now you hide behind rhetoric.
"If Kroplin had no claim of intellectual property in the States, why was Sanswire paying millions to license something that didn't exist? " It was a package deal which included the unit. Wsgi can pursue the argus anywhere kroplin does not have his rights already establish (just Germany)
"Regardless, the situation is a far cry from Indy's claim that WSGI holds a patent on the ARGUS design for the next 15-20 years. " now you are back tracking and deflecting. In addition, when did he ever say that? Again I call BS
"WSGI has never had a patent granted and owns no actual intellectual property. " you may be right about the patent. It is still pending. But you are showing how horrible your legal skills are. Just because you have a pacer account does not make you special, nor an actual attorney. But you mascarade here as one. You do know there is more to ip that just patents right? Just like you know the difference between the uspto and the patent cooperation treaty. Maybe you do know the difference and you are intentionally trying to mislead everyone on the board. Again, I call BS.
How did your SEC predictions work out? Good call on that one. Sheesh.
Edit: it must have been so satisfying for you to testify against all the bad guys at the sec trial!
All in is tempting. Also adding a stock I already consider to be a soap opera (this board is great!) to a well diversified portfolio is another story. Anyone that goes all in on anything is not smart, IMO. Thus, my handle.
Edit: I reiterated my position to Sami recently. I'm waiting on discovery in the LJC case.
Will it make you happy if I buy some shares? Hmmmmmm... Timing is interesting
There was no fraud. Stop the psyops campaign. Wsgi bought a "working" unit as well which turned out to be junk. Thus the split. Thanks to eastcore for getting it as far along as it did. Anything else?
And why, if you don't know if there is a patent violation do you continue to say there is?
Ill go one step further. it looked like wsgi was testing the waters on the changes to the airship to see if they were enough to establish a new patentable design where they could get international priority through the treaty. I am not sure but I don't think it is something kroplin ever did. He does however have rights in Germany, and based on EU law, priority in other eu countries. I have no clue if he has ever taken advantage of that. I don't have the time to research every country. The purpose of the letter was to tell wsgi that he has some claims out there and that particular opinion is that the changes made at eastcore were not quite enough. I can't wait to see the changes that the consortium makes. All IMHO, of course.
Edit: go Indy, go!
The uspto applications are still pending. Not granted not rejected. The patent cooperation treaty letter was based on claims kroplin may have in other countries. Where exactly is his patent is the US? Oh, thats right, there is none. Which means there is no patent infringement here.
Also, go reread the separation agreement with kroplin. It basically says the same thing.
I believe it was in the 8k. Not sure of the investor(s) or the progress.
Blabbing coastie's rhetoric again. Uspto did no such thing. Go back and read what the document actually was.
"Sheep herdin" Are you insulting my border collie? Now those are fighting words. I would put money on her passing more intelligence tests than you.
Do you think the FAA is delaying the process so the regulations don't come out until after the 2016 election? I see this becoming a bigger political issue once the regs are out.
Here is just one recent example:
http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2014/06/10/westbrook-woman-charged-with-assault-on-drone-operator/