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"On the news". This is substantial movement forward , The "signing of a contract" not "LOI" with a key Chinese tractor manufacturer . Not News ? Currently, the prototypes are undergoing two 500-hour endurance tests in both
China and Kalama. "prototypes" more than one . "Tytan expects the 404GP to be ready for production". Not going to the drawing board . This is not news worthy ? IMO It doesn't matter when a real company puts out news unless its playing the market . Tytan isn't , its building a business ."
So, what you are portraying is the confidence that tytan hldgs is going to introduce a field worthy propane powered tractor that will endure all the rigors of the soon to be antiquated fossil fuel burning units?...
OR......
piss'n in da wind hoping that the trials exceed expectations and that the current market is substancial enough to support all the investment...? All the investment... 6.5 billion shares... Not 1 share spent is "due" back to the investor while the company is still owing "pre public" financing contracts.
But then, what do I know, I had no use for the iPod ......
Looky look at da AAPL now...
Go Marky Go Marky...................
Sign da devils deal kiddo.... Join da club!............
:)
"Rather prophetic if you ask me!
could simply pick an opportune moment in history, perhaps when the share price gains traction and is climbing and make a large public press release and inform the investor masses that he is retiring several billion shares in support of the shareholders.
This would act like a catalyst to the 'then' share price pushing it even higher."
What da heck does that have to do with a reverse split?
"Now he actually has reduced the shares and has a pending State of Colorado request to amend the authorized shares.
What would really be a "nail in the coffin" for those that have chosen to 'short' this stock legally and illegally is for Mark leonard to amend the A/S so that the now difference between the O/S and the A/S (read float) would be amended basically eliminating the unissued shares back to the treasury or totally retired."
The word "condensed" sounds a bit more fitting.
The previous shares authorized and issued were "condensed" to 1 share for every 150 shares. See, retiring or lowering the As would not give the "higher PPS" as seen now. The whole "short squeeze" scenereo is cut by 150 also so expecting a "BIG SQUEEZE" sounds a bit propagand"ishy" like....(any said shorting had more than enough time to be covered pre R/S)
Authorized: 43,333,334 (1.5B/150) Issued: 36,703,097 Float: 31,221,671
Leaving 6,630,237 shares as a safety cushion.
While I am a fan of low share structures I must say Im concerned with the amount left for future financing/operational costs should sales not produce enough revenue on a continued basis. Time will tell.
Also, "Thanks" to those that replied to my last post.
If these boards were only 1 way then they wouldnt be a message board, they'd be an ADVERTISEMENT...
:)
"can anybody answer why a company goes public?"
Why "a" company goes public or why "this" company went public?
The story timeline says "banking issues" aka lost line of credit.
"Why" a company goes public is almost as important as "when" a company goes public. Many of the big boards go public after a proven revenue stream has been established having a plan to grow the company before asking for public monies... In the pinks, nothing really needs to be proven nor maintained. This lack of checks and balances leads to exactly what has been seen here.
A "real" company with products and some sales going down a path of dilution leading to an implosion of the share price.
Right after the raise in authorized shares the "reverse split" chatter was viewable. 7 mos later the expected R/S news was released.
I believe the "dilute/reverse split" method is described on page 1 of pinkies4dumb@@@es... Page 2 describes CEO worship and the too close for comfort ideaology... Page 3 describes the "phony share/we're being attacked by illegal shorting" tactics.
A good read but, if one wants to get the basics quicker just look at tytns Pr's, financials and PPS timeline..(that can be done online for free)
"There may be opportunity for me to play in the near term, before the 504 investors dump, and most certainly after they dump. Again, with anything positive."
What makes you so sure the 504 investors havent "dumped" already?
(or atleast the majority of them)
504's dont have to be restricted..... Thats why the DTCC is not favorable to companies that use that type of financing.
The first public release of info concerning 504's was in the Q1 fins. 368 million shares returned for a total of $140K released:
Jun 3, 2011 Quarterly Report for Mar 31, 2011.
Average of .00038 per share.....? So the trick is in the wording and timing. The next 2 quarterly reports mention previous time frames along with current. No one can determine what was sold at what time for what amount and are left to estimate. Either way, the P&D starting may 11th/13th only leads one to believe that the 504 placements thru the first and early second quarters where not restricted and played as only private investors could giving the lack of sales and an upcoming raise in authorized shares.
A week over due for full year 2011 report... (who knew?)
Not too long before Q1 2012 is due....
What will the releases bring?
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll tootsie pop????
3 for an owl, how many for a bagholder?
One thing for sure is, I cant wait for the news on all the offshore ghost share phonies getting sunk via TYTN HOLDINGS....
:)
Who do you think traded tytnd today?
What exactly do you think they traded?
The company / TA are in the process of a "new Issue"....
These early "d" symbol trades are the true meaning of "Ghost Shares" if ever there was.....
Ring trading sounds familiar.....
Look back at the first SOS docs concerning the RS, time frames and eligibility.
A new issue RS doesnt mean your are left with 1 share for every 150, it means you are being issued "New Shares" reflecting the ratio. A new issue is a way to gain control over a loss of control on share amounts.
Any upcoming trading will not reflect the true open market sentiment/value of said company(tytn). (tricky game right now)
Only da boss can maintain/increase the RS PPS....
Still waiting on the full year 2011 report...
Wonder how long between the full yr filing and Q1 2012 filing there is? (especially if the Q1 fins are "super" as previously "suggested")
The old, dont look back propaganda....
Same game, different equity......
:)
"Seasoned traders know ZECCO's the problem not the stock."
"Investors are satisfied with the CEO as he's doing an excellent job."
"We all know it's make or break and I'm staying."
So much babble, so little answers.......
So, when it is convenient, some use the "trader" venue as smart and the investors as being stupid. When in defense mode the
"investor/CEO" base is smarter and the traders are to blame...
When does it come down to company actions, filings and revenue numbers?
Cant work that way on da boards. no no no......
tytn be growin.....
From what? Organic profits or the skin ripped from previously pumped investors backs?
A Great CEO has financials out ahead of time all the time, A Good CEO has them out on time...
Take a guess what kind of CEO makes it's dedicated investors wait for a document over 90 days..... What, are numbers and spelling really that hard over there, or is the spin getting harder?
(there is an outline, punch in the fkn numbers for Christ sakes)
One thing had me laughing the other day... All the pics for parts having to be taken, uploaded then eventually linked to... It's like amature hour on that site. Most persons that make the investment on a tractor can decipher a "parts diagram" and pick what is needed... (especially liked the used scratched and dusty parts included with new, that just blanking genius) Nice way to portray to investors something is getting done though...
"Looky Looky what we been doin"....
Frikin people on Ebay have better means and methods... Atleast they arent asking for public monies to pay the #*$& bills!!!
What ya been doin? Really? Washington SOS has TYTN Int. filed on 5/14/84....
28 yrs later the company and stock is going to now explode into incredible profits thru parts, oil filters and "hang'n out" ?
Wanna save face.....?
By 3-2013 Take this little piggy private again...
Some watchers would respect that.
Or.........
Send a couple of tytn models over to "Nebraska" and actually play with the "Big Boys". What, a day and a half trip? Cant be that expensive to get in the "league" and possibly get some recognition above and beyond 2 yr old yootoobs.
(between u n me...I'd take back what was mine!!!)
:)
"LMFAO, Show me the competitors study so I can compare what I have."
Nebraska Tractor Test Laboratory...Look it up
Aint seein any tytans on da list...?
"...burning the midnite oil again. Updating the website in preparation for the next step forward. That man just never stops working."
Funny, "Alexa" site stats show insignificant numbers for all Tytan sites, maybe the new and improved site will do better?????
One important piece of info it does show is the "linked" in site info.....Mostly penny stock sites with some news sites like Market Wire...
Tractor sales or Stock sales....?
Hmmmmmmmmmm...
:)
"I don't happen to be Mark's accountant so that information is unavailable to me"
Not too sure the CEO's finances were questioned....
The answer that seems unavailable to some is in the financials.
Well the subject question is... The answer nonetheless has nothing to do with the person as it does the company and it's suspected misdirected accounting of funds, or lack there of......
Just imagine how much "forward" revenue can be manipulated
/projected thru an "internal finance" company.........
"Bogden settlement as income then receivable."(condensed)
Good to see someone else bring this up, I strayed from it to detach from the conspiracy theories... But... eff'em.
Yes, the company called it income on a financial... The only defense it has is being a bit retarded as most of the financials lead to that outcome when fully researched.... Gradeschool kids these days make better websites nevermind their math skills and the ability for following a defined outline in providing information... Something these pinky cookiebox hero's just cant seem to grasp. Every quarter the "better than thou" stank companies have different variations in financial filings till they just stop filing all together... It all depends if and when they get called out and have to "verify"..... A stop sign/skull means nothing with the right pump.....(and dat aint commin from no "hangout" anytime soon)
"WOW TO DAY ALL BUYS AND NO SELLS GO TYTN LONG AND STRONG"
Just "a bit" right there...just a bit...
Hang'in, bang'in and finding free amusement via Koolaid....
Ah Derrrrr....
:)
EDIT "I think if you look at Mark's history he has the assets to pay off those loans out right. he is a smart business man and makes his decisions based on what is good for his company"
His history has nothing to do with his ability to pay anything. Have you seen his bank accts? Personally no one knows anything of "His Abilities" except the ones lacking in supporting the "public" end of the company. It's in the financials.
Drop the Koolaid.........
Like WOW man......
This smells of a 1 man show playing with many peoples money.
The best that can be hoped for is a well placed pump post RS if it happens. If revenue cannot be maintained as well raised in the post RS penny range than the PPS will go subpenny and the .0001 buyers will start to lose. IMO.
Should this go subpenny post RS the company only becomes that much cheaper and easier to be taken private again. Common shareholders will have to accept what is offered.
:)
EDIT:
"The question in my mind: is he an ignorant d-bag, or a smart d-bag? did he not realize what the 6.5 billion shares would do to the stock price and his shareholders (ignorant d-bag), or did he know exactly what would hanppen and was it all part of his master plan to save himself at the expense of his shareholders (smart d-bag)?"
All one has to look at is the preferred share distribution, conversion ratio.... Someone knew what they were/are doing for "self survival" via debtfree public financing...
"So if history tells us anything Mark will forget something and this will drag on forever."
Ummmmmmm, that wouldnt have anything to do with the Banking issues and how long it took for the company (tytan) to find the original "letter of commitment", would it???
Cause dat would be some funny stuff right there!!!!
Lets see, the company went public how long into the "Cowlitz" problems and it took how long to find something that should have been "page 1" in the file titled "Financing"..????
"Now looky looky here, I've been in touch with da FINRA and I says it gonna be a long long time for we be splittin cuz dats just how am dese dayz.... werd!
It be a long thang fer the newbs wit da cheap websites...."
AHAHAHAHAHA
:)
"After painstaking DD...."
AHAHAHAHA
"I have determined..."
AHAHA cough what?...
"that March 28th is a personal favorite of mine and would be a fantastic day..."
Fantytanus even? AHAHAHA
"..to complete the RS of TYTN"
Any news on the RS would be something to giggle about (while hang'n out) nevermind the confirmation of a RS as it would almost be a milestone for this company considering the lack of actual professionalism concerning the stinkysheets and previous actions.......
"What could be better than.."
Profits?
"...a complete audit and accounting of all TYTN shares prior to moving on with trading?"
The only audit that benefits the investor is one conducted by an outside entity verifying the actual financial situation of said company...
Now dats some good DD right there...........
:)
"The broker sold shares that he does not have and are not "available" to "borrow" so they can't be delivered."
So, where are all the FTD's??
SEC:
Naked short selling is not necessarily a violation of the federal securities laws or the Commission's rules. Indeed, in certain circumstances, naked short selling contributes to market liquidity. For example, broker-dealers that make a market in a security generally stand ready to buy and sell the security on a regular and continuous basis at a publicly quoted price, even when there are no other buyers or sellers. Thus, market makers must sell a security to a buyer even when there are temporary shortages of that security available in the market. This may occur, for example, if there is a sudden surge in buying interest in that security, or if few investors are selling the security at that time. Because it may take a market maker considerable time to purchase or arrange to borrow the security, a market maker engaged in bona fide market making, particularly in a fast-moving market, may need to sell the security short without having arranged to borrow shares. This is especially true for market makers in thinly traded, illiquid stocks such as securities quoted on the OTC Bulletin Board, as there may be few shares available to purchase or borrow at a given time.
The otcmarkets short interest page gives direct data concerning tytn (as many other equities)twice a month.
Shows no "excessive" FTD's in tytn.
One interesting thing it does show is the "average daily share volume" and time frames...
Pretty much shows the volume from the 504's (early 2011) thru the raise in A/S and the eventual effect of the T4T status (now).
Remember 1 thing, failure to delivers can trigger on each side of the trade.
Lack of shares delivered as well lack of funds.
Funny, It's always the largely diluted penny plays that cry "phoney shares" the loudest...... I guess thats what happens when common shareholders have no say in any corporate actions...
AS you know as you read this YTO IS gearing up to accommodate the suggested requirements ML and YTO have agreed upon. / Now watch closely as we approach $1 & share after the R/S.
Untill there are significant sales being produced as a direct result of these "suggested requirements"....... It means nothing to the investers lead into the lowering side of the pump and dump enacted mid May 2011.
Koolaid is as Koolaid does.....
A buck a share says the company will be valued at 22+ million dollars post RS. People believe this? It'll be a milestone if the co reaches 2 million in sales a year nevermind being traded overvalue short of a contrived pump.(that would have to be one helllllllllll of a pump imo)
5 business days left till full yr 2011 report due... will it be filed on time or late?
:)
..if FINRA Operations believes that one of five explicitly
enumerated factors outlined in Rule 6490 may be triggered, it generally will conduct an in-depth review of the Company-Related Action and may seek additional information or documentation from the issuer or duly authorized representative as outlined above.
This is the key phrase in all the "new info blitz" coming from the hangout...
Not sure some understand it though..
TYTN has some JUNK IN THE TRUNK and the governing body needs to know how much and will it effect investors..
Number 5 sounds familiar...
5. there is significant uncertainty in the settlement and clearance process for the security.
Could be some banking issues involved? Maybe some 504 action that needed esplainin? "Company enacted" T4T status??
Things dat makes ya go hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
Thank Hvnsangel for pointing this out:
Something "TRIGGERED" FINRA into taking a further look into TYTN hldgs.... Be it pizzpoor application skills or worse...
(we've all seen their pr's and filings... ugh)
The company filed docs. to the state of inc (Col.) giving an "Effective date"... As I had mentioned numerous times prior that date... Anyone who thought they would be trading tytnd on that date were incorrect. The state filing means nothing vs the regulatory body in "what, when and why"!!!! (and the public never know any of those issues short a FOIA submittal/suit or a CEO fession...)
Raising authorized shares then reverse splitting soon after has been a regular process in the pinksheet markets as well an easy one.... Not any more kids!!! If a company isnt squeeky clean... plan on a possible long term process.
So, only the CEO can end all this soap opera BS concerning his company and the messageboards. Playing into the scene isnt helping the companys chance to gain new investors short of junk players.
Now, Yellowstone.... The Yellowstone state SOS has 2 differing results for 2 searches. 1 for Yellowstone tractor company and 2 for Yellowstone tractor. That being corrected is between the company and the state. If not, outdated public information may be distributed unknowingly. (even then, there was a laps from 3-2011 to 7-2011) Some nice looking tractors on that Yellowstone site though, Too bad 95% arent TYTN's.... :)
"I have made posts to contribute to a FACTUALLY-based discussion. Most everything I have written (admittedly aside from "colorful" subjective embellishments on character observations) about TYTAN & \CEO ML can be verified in PR's, filings, etc as I have shown today."
Cmonnnnnnnnnn You know the game better than most... It isnt about facts but the cold Koolaid... As admitted, you also know the CEO will mix and add the ice to that pitcher of cold Koolaid.
Verified PR's and filings....peeshaw... HAHAHAHA
The CEO, if so interested in "message board comments/questions" than riddle me this......... (been questioned many times)
Where are the blanking AUDITED FINANCIALS as promised so long ago??????? It would put much of the "are we there yet" scenereo to rest... Unfortunately, it might put the "TYTN greatest pinky CEO" etc... to rest as well...???? They cant be "that" expensive... or can they?
Looking back I kinda have to thank him for not producing, I might be a bagger right now had I seen auditeds prior the meltdown in 2011..... Tank's Marky... What a pal...
Back at ya'
:)
"It happens A LOT! Please, don't ask me or anyone else to prove it. Just do some research and draw your own conclusion; I and others have already drawn ours/theirs, and clearly we do not agree."
"That's the exact point being made by Mark Leonard... it has happened, it is ILLEGAL and people are getting away with it".
So, per Q2 filing investors know 700m shares were "returned" and used for 504 placements. Per Q 3 700m shares were returned to the CEO out of the raised A/S. There is a major difference between the shares out for Q2 vs Q3. There is no "red flag" in Reg Sho data. There is no public data showing a volume concern leading to what could be an inflow of "phony shares"...
The reverse split is the next move from many pinksheet companies that have raised their A/S as drastically as tytn had.
Add up the 504 placements with a raised A/S(400%+) and falling revenue, it equals a PPS that will drop. The 504 disclosure in the filings leave a bit to be desired as the wording and timeframes seem a bit elusive. (IMO)
Either way, speculated phony shares did not run the PPS of tytn to the low tripzip 1-2's....(IMO)
The performance of the company/management did.(IMO)
Can it bounce back? With increasing sales, properly placed PR's and the right pump...... Anything is possible....
"I'm impressed! Every trade was at .0002 today."
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (comment redacted)
hahahahaha
UGH.......
:)
EDIT: Now thats some useful DD right there...
Thanks for some kind of usefulnes out of that camp.
Couple questions....
1st. is with the MT SOS, why didnt the search show both?
2nd. Why give out the owners name when it isnt on the website?
(atleast I couldnt find it) Is there a "mirror" site? He ok with his name being tossed around some stock messageboard because of his ties to tytn?
3rd. Why is old "Darrel" promoting TYM over tytn if tytn is "da sheet"...?
See that, hangin out can provide some useful info outside the typical Koolaid.
Thanx Buddy...
But..
For a long time I have been reading about exclusive dealerships on the horizon...... Not see'in it yet. Everything I see is no better than the old photochopped pic with tractors in a puddle infront of a log cabin... Selling a couple parts and a chipper or two is insignificant to the kind of sales the company is in dire straights to record.
Thanx for the correct information though, I stand corrected.
SPOTLIGHT: Darrell Haugland. Welcome to the internet stock messageboard interest... ahahahaha
:)
EDIT:
"As you read this YTO is gearing up to accommodate the suggested requirements ML and YTO have agreed upon"
Could you elaborate???? What suggested requirements?
YELLOWSTONE TRACTOR COMPANY ABN BELGRADE, MT Inactive
Name: YELLOWSTONE TRACTOR COMPANY
ID #: A131360
Status: INACTIVE
Status Reason: EXPIRED
Filing Date: 03/13/2006
Expiration Date: 03/13/2011
(Public info from Montana SOS website)
I know...., ya did the DD and find it a "to the moon'er"...
Unreal!!
The DD announced here is as lame as the previous Vetting of our current Administration running us into bankruptcy!
Un&^%$&%real!!
I seem to remember the CEO of tytn saying PR'ing something to the effect of tytn was looking for the best of the best to sell its products? no?
:)
EDIT:
The Canadian company...
What tractor are they promoting on their website homepage????
Mighty nice sign on the bldg though...
If this is what investors have to look forward to...
"It's only beer money"....
AHAHAHAHAHA
Just hangin out... Funny stuff.
:)
"...the truth is TYTN will be up and running sooner than you all think..."
Did it stop running? Pretty sure the CEO has had tytn international running since 2004 per his own website as well tytn hldgs since 2009 per public documents... (actually tytn int has a filing date in Wash. of 05/14/1984)
"...if he were to post on this site he would tell each and every one of exactly what you and those who that are "what they are" would not have a come back for the truth,.."
Comparing that statement to past mistakes in PR's and OTC filings.... Maybe he "is on here".......?
"...likely there were some Q&A's back and forth with FINRA, then TYTN will get the go ahead. Just my opinion."
So, at the minimum, one can accept that the mistakes still lay in tytns hands filing with the Col SOS any effective dates prior to actually knowing what da &^%$ they were doing/was going on, no?
Again, there are companies out there that can file with their SOS and be trading 20-25 days later...Why? Because they know what they are doing when applying to FINRA and have no "visible" junk in da trunk.... TYTN shares going to T4T = junk in da trunk.
The funniest thing in this realm is the fact some investors believe subjects that cannot be proven vs actual company numbers and performance.... A successful company needs no pumpers nor defenders because the stocks price reflects success and fends off all the negatives!!!
Should tytn get to the Rhino level with buying 2.3 million in product every quarter... Well, lets just say no one should be able to demean the company unless, it costs the company 4.5 mil every quarter....
"What is this and where did it come from?"
Notice the color???? It's Koolaid....originaly came from some govt chemlab...
:)
"...to sell at any point is a big mistake IMO as value is associated with phony shares."
Show some proof!
3rd Q losses wiped out everything they kept (retained) in the first 2 Q's (combined $7579 for 2011) as well the retained from previous year showing a deficit of -$93,352
Untill the company can become CFBE/P on an operating basis it will go thru cash like the Hilton twins requiring some sort of financing to continue.
"Marks motives? NO! LoL"
OK, per the PR "tytn hldgs forms wholly-owned..."
The RS being approved by a "majority of shareholders" (aka the preferred shareholders)
"...will ensure the stock remain in a more stable and safe position within the market. Thru....lack of volume? The consensus among the Company and its advisors is that this strategy will force an accounting of all legally held shares. New Cert. Issue.. The market cap of the Company will, of course, remain the same but the shares will be protected by virtue of a higher share price. Thru...lack of volume??? This will provide a more stable base on which the company can grow....
Low share numbers look good and a plus for PPS should revenues rise but also slows the MCAP growth.... MCAP is nothing really.
There are pinksheet companies that have billions of shares that have been pumped to 25 cents giving MCAP of billions with 0 revenues...
"We all know what Mark was doing as he made it public and that may have been a mistake being in pinks as the crooks took advantage of it."
Was the "company directed" (as explained on here) - Trade for Trade - status a mistake also?
Considering it hasnt worked for how long now.....? AHAHAHA
504's bad news.
Still waiting for an explanation on the comment "non compete clause ended not too long ago".......?????? Cmon, fess up...
"They won't ever accept it, xxxxxxxxx. Deny, deny, deny."
Accept what? The company has not been able to stay CFBE on a consistant basis since 2004? Who gives a flying frogs arse about some fake shares from Never never land... A company that makes money has a PPS that reflects the same!!!
Denial isnt a river in Egypt, it's in the deceived mirror...
"I don't understand why the R/S is taking so long. Do you have any insight to this?"
Wait, the "CHARTS" arent explaining why?.... Aint that the damdest thing... Maybe some phoney "off shore" charts being tossed around?
Things that makes ya go Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...
:)
"Anyone want to question Mark Leonard's R/S motives after reading this post?"
No need to question... The answer is known. Pinksheet business as usual!!!!
Q1 A/S 1,500,000,000
Q1 S/O 1,445,911,508
Q1 Flt 1,086,250,678
Q2 A/S 6,500,000,000
Q2 S/O 1,595,464,633
Q2 Flt 1,179,470,563
Q3 A/S 6,500,000,000
Q3 S/O 3,255,464,633
Q3 Flt 2,433,250,678
End of Q1 the company had 54.09 million shares left: @ trip zip 7 closing price Mar. 30 2011, thats only $37K left for near term product/operations etc.. with only 15,618 in cash... Expenses alone for that same Q were $50,611
Explains the emergency funding by the CEO (700mil shares-504'S) as well the raise in A/S 2.5 months later. If there are shares being whored out it is no ones fault but the CEO/Board of Directors & TA for tytn. (unpaid "transfer agent advisor" owns 200k CL-B preferreds)
"We are where we are because of a R/S coming up not dilution. LoL"
Thats bloody ridiculous.
"No business EVER pays land taxes until the 3rd year which law requires. If he was paying taxes way before the deadline, I would then question his decision making and ask him to step down."
Thats bloody ridiculous...
"...a user, which helps a great deal when one has to wade through all of the information presented on this message board. The product is real, the product is simple, strong and affordable, just as advertised."
Dont really think I've read anyone typing the product wasnt real, "simple" nor strong/affordable.. ("As advertised" leaves some food for thought..)
Negative comments based on current PPS via corporate actions? Yeah..thats what Ive been reading...
"The price couldn't keep up with the rapid increase which in turn slowed buying and kept driving the price down"
Concur, but there is more to the story... 504's, T4T, rapid decrease in revenue.. to name a few...
Best of all...Mailbag:
Waa waa waa... bad economy
Waa waa waa... free speechers
Waa waa waa... off shore shares
Waa waa waa... dont get paid
Waa waa waa... FINRA do'in what FINRA wants
TYTN: by far the best soap opera in town.
:)
"Some actual facts rather than opinions?????
That would be nice.
How about some facts rather than opinions!
That would be nice.
if your insinuations, over the top name calling was deleted and references made to the CEO of a publicly traded company were respectful and with merit."
Facts: ...
"The loan matured on September 3, 2009, but neither Tytan nor Leonard repaid the loan. On October 29,2009, Cowlitz Bank declared Tytan in default of the loan, accelerated the indebtedness incured under the loan, and gave Tytan untill November 9, 2009 to repay the loan."
When did M.L. go public with Tytan Hldgs?
"The bank did get a judgement in April 2010 against M.L./The courts judgement was affirmed in April of 2011. Tytan international is in default of that loan as of the date of this quarterly report".
April 2011 judgement affirmed, May 2011 the "pump", June 2011 the increase of A/S by over 400% previous amount. As from Q1 2011 - CEO "giving" back shares while the same amount of "new shares" get issued to be used in 504 private placements
Thru the beginning of 2011 up to the Q-3 report the company showed reducing revenus when most of the other AG equipment companies were showing great profits. Q-3 report also mentions that the "letter of commitment" from the bank was "located".... a bit late????
More facts... How about some common "non pinky" market based TOOLS?
see post
Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:21:56 Pm
Post #78548
(excellent due diligence posted in a respectable form but most likely upon deaf ears)
This isnt rocket science but it isnt head in the tytan koolaid pitcher either..
2004 tytan int starts, 2009 tytn hldgs goes public, 2011 tytn A/S goes to 6.5 bil. 2012 tytn dummied up on proposed RS. Blames governing agency...
The facts have been shown time after time thru this forum. All one can do is read and further their knowledge or dismiss and hope.
11 bus. days left till "full year" report due.
Buying or selling stock based on non public info is considered inside information even if the individual is not associated with the "company".
When did news of the Canadian based tytn parts dist. "Atlantic Imports" hit the public and /or become "viable"...?
Funny thing, as pathetic as that companys website is, (I would not give them my CC info based upon their website) it beats the "homebase" website....(IMO) Nahhhh, actually both sites are just plain bad in different ways. Atleast the TYTAN sign is bigger than the Jinma sign up dere... Boot hey, the sign alone equals "to da moon".........
:)
"Like Mark stated timing is everything."
Just like the bank/financing letter being found so "timely"....
Q-3 2011 after the final judgement...
Right.......!
"Yeah... when it was getting pumped and dumped to death by the MM's and their minions. Precisely why Mark Leonard is splitting the tytn stock and seeking a proper accounting of shares. It happens, believe it or not"
"It wasn't all about dilution and 504 placements, IMO. MM's feasted on this stock and shareholders have paid the price."
WOW..(How many times does one have to explain this sht?).. Volume in the company didnt even start till early 2011... Right around the time the 504's were being placed..
The Bogden news came in around the same time but did nothing really, why? 700 million shares being thrown to the market???
(504's do not have to be restricted)
Think About It......!!!!!!
"..when it was getting pumped and dumped to death..."
Part of the plan....... HELLLLLOOOOOOOO..........
"Precisely why Mark Leonard is splitting the tytn stock and seeking a proper accounting..."
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......
2 reasons the RS was/is attempted...
1) would be good for investors in at low averages but must know when to dump to maintain any gains...
2) would not be good for anyone except the entity that ends up with the company...cheaply...(wont have to watch all the nasty sht on the message boards anymore..)
Theres a 3rd and thats outside the market.... The ability to gain some "legal" financing with a low share amount showing higher PPS along with a pile of product on the ground. (Iffy IMO)
Play the speculated pump if the RS goes thru... Dont be afraid to take gains because they may be lost waiting for that 1.00 per share/dividend BS babbled....
13 days left...... Annual report due (unaudited)
:)
"Been doing due dili on other small tractor companies, many of them advertise/sponsor events"
Let me add from what I have found, the other companies have much more professional looking and user friendlier websites. IMO.. Havent ran into any "Waaaa Waaaa" offshore, shorters, FINRA, freespeech etc... pages either.... (but then many of the other dealers/importers have been able to stay private $$ vs diluting the pizz out of public investors $$)
"I believe Mark Leonard will give us an Enola Gay moment"
"...random neuron...."
Funny stuff right there!!
"..tractors in Kalama will be radioactive for thousands of years"
Day be da bom mon... word up....
Or,
Maybe tytn gonna do a flyover on Yanmar???
Sometimes the Koolaidrs can do more harm than good....
"but, if no newsworthy $TYTN PR and meaningful sales, it's a moot point. JMO."
PR's are already expected if and when the RS happens... But, what would one consider "meaningful sales" to hit the PPS projections that have been speculated on here? I'm pretty sure Ive read .30, .50 up to 1.00.... Explain the "meaningful sales" required to see these numbers.... Oh yeah, maybe the "dividend" speculations too... Meaningful sales needed for the company to be able to provide "investors" with "dividends"....
"Why is this one of your favorite stocks?"
It's prob. the "Beer money invested" typing....?
:) AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA.......
"...these testimonials would really be a good marketing strategy."
The consumer needs to be able to see them though...
Not just the ones "looking at tytn" but the ones "thinking of a tractor" to purchase..
If the company has any real ads out there Im pretty sure the investment community would know about them by now...
Spending $$ to promote the stock vs $$ to purchase some real ads, in say "Mother Earth News" (for example - which is read by many different types of Earthy minded people... Small farmers to large... Backyard do it yourselfers to off the gridders..etc...) Shows the intent of the company. Thats a shame..
The fact that the company pubicly announced (1/9/12) a reverse split had been applied for on or before 1/9/12 yet no regulatory actions have been seen (as of 3/9/12) is a possible sign of incompetence (or more) leading to the "I cannot comment on that." Syndrome..
OR............
(insert mystery music here)
Dum Dum Dummmmm....
There is a larger international investigation going on concerning tytn shares as well the "offshore" syndicate that finally
"messed with the wrong company" : R/S blackout.... "shhhhhh be vewy vewy quiet, Ima huntin fow a....way outta dis pubwic mess...Bad owld cowits"!!!!!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.............
(offshore netting maybe)
Ya know, it's most likely the "tube" vids have been watched by more investors than consumers... (call it a hunch)
:)
Hows dis fer 1 sided quality comments?
Werd up!
Q-1: Publish date June 3rd 2011
A/S 1,500,000,000
O/S 1,4,445,911,508
FLT 1,086,250,678
Net Income +3,066
Mar 30 .0007 May 25th .005
June 3rd - 1st public info concerning 504 placements
Q-2: Publish date Aug. 15th 2011
A/S 6,500,000,000
O/S 1,595,464,633
FLT 1,179,470,563
Net Income +4,513
June 30 .0023 Aug 15th .0011
July 16th public info concerning A/S raised 400+%
Q-3: Publish date Nov. 29th 2011
A/s 6,500,000,000
O/S 3,255,464,633
FLT 2,433,250,678
Net Income -138,518
Sept 30 .0009 Nov 30 .0003
Nov 29th company finds "banking line of credit letter/finally.."
Add all that up : Ya didnt get kissed, Ya didnt get dinner... But ya did get
@**$$*ED............
"I dinit buy my kids any houses"
"Dont pik on me free speechers"
"I gotz no idea what FINRA is... really"
"those patents are MINE!!!!"
"everybody likes kung fu fighting ha..."
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........
"I'm to old of a cat to be playing those games and it isn't my first day out of the sand box"
Care to explain the "no compete clause ending not too long ago" comment, Garfield....???
Really.... Time to address the "harder" questions, no?
Even a wartorn tabby will defend it's honorable comments/hairballs..(space)
:)
"We will get over this bump in the road with a clean house which is coming and the company for sure is not going away like the illegal brokerage shorters want".
"Mark will have this mess cleaned up in no time".
AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....... "...cleaned up in no time"....
Just like the CEO "cleaned up" the Cowlitz banking issues? What was it? Q 3 2011 that the CEO found the "letter of commitment" verifying they had a "flooring line or revolving line of credit".. How many years has it been?
"How can I know this is a true statement and relating to TYTN?"
Untill the company addresses the investors/public, there is evidence of illegal trading/falsified documents/certificates or basic naked shorting..... All one has is a message board statement......
"...only camp 2 would exist at this point,..."
Camp 1-2 is a faux idealogy/playground!......
I can't stress enough how those defending or denying the validity of this pinksheet company should go back to the pre May2011 pump having an open Chart (Id suggest the "OTCMARKETS dot C0M" charting) in co-ordination with the messageboard postings right around number #20,000. One can go earlier but the story is right in front of anyone willing to take the time aka DD.....
Take everything one will find and connect that with the submitted quarterlys 2011 along with the lack of transparancy...... Well, If anyone that isnt in the market for an import tractor, but has been buying the "manipulative sob story" should at the least, find a new outlook concerning past manipulation...
Funny how when the company only had 1.4 ba ba billion shares outstanding, no one heard of any "off shore" bad guys working against the super hero ML.... BUT.... Not long after an emergency retirements of 700 million common shares by the CEO to be used in a series of 504 private placements and a raising of the authorized shares..... It seems Atlantis, Capt. Nemo and every off shore "FAIRYTALE" comes alive......
"It's Alive - It's Alive" Fronkenstien?.........
I personally cannot say that this company will or will not improve its revenue stream vs costs, but typing from "factual/experience" (aka: personal BS)
I can say....... "there are concerns that should be considered by any investor prior to investing in the pinksheet market via messageboards" (hangout/bathhouse/groupiebingo)...
Funny stuff right there!
:)
"He is following the protocol in cleaning it up."
HAHAHAHAHAAAAAA What, by following exactly the events that were expected??????????
Higher dilution was expected way before the June 2011 increase of over 400% the A/S..... Nevermind the current pathetic attempt at the predicted Reverse Split...... B.S. companys pull off "Reverse Splits" with-in a month all the time in the skanky-panky world....
But then some of them actually know how to "run" the game vs run excuses.................. "free speech" .... AHAHAHAHAHAHA
"...full blown investigation going on. Your proof will come and NOT overnight.."
Of course, It is never "overnight"....... Especially with the "red" playas.... DH!!!!
"...is where FINRA steps in as FINRA is the one who keeps checks and balances."
Sure.... D-A... 1st responsibility is "TRANSPARANCY" though...
Making sure the pigs that might have a public company submit the proper documents ensuring the law is followed even on the junk pink scale!!!! So, FINRA has no on hand henchmen so any claims of "wrong doing" will be referred to the proper authorities....
"If you don't feel comfortable and want to switch horses..." "My statement is absolute fact based on experience" "if there wasn't this type of situation going on, only camp 2 would exist at this point"
Sorry but, from my absolute facts - based upon individual experiences thru "other" public entities vs 1, 2 or even 3 "camps" set upon a messageboard or some B.S. wind torn off-shore island of pure psycho babble...
The silly dwama-qween of an owner will still have to produce solid numbers on a continous basis to be considered a viable company. Revenues will have to rise to unbelievable levels to ever see $1.00 per share short of some horse-sheet bagholder making pump... Even then, a "buck".....???? AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
If false shares/certs were placed into the system then maybe the governing bodies should "audit" the issuing entity??? lets say starting June 16th 2011 following back to the 1st Quarter of 2011 .....?????? If the texture and smell adds up...No need to taste it!!!!!!!
There is no big bad offshore wolf that can beat solid revenues!!!
Washington St. SOS - Tytan International: 5/14/1984
Corporate website - Tytan International: 2004
Ammended Articles of INC. tytn hldg : 2009
Any chart or description : 1975
TYTN int. sat dormant how long...?
No need to "taste"!!!!!!
More questions than answers! More dilution than revenues!!
More BS than Transparancy!!!
Word up!!!!!
:)
EDIT:
"...not be surprised at all if Mark asked holders to request certificates, in fact I am demanding it, after the split and the crooked brokerage firm is out..."
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......
WOW............!
"Tell it like it is"
Back at ya.... Your numbers and suggestions add up!!!! All BS aside, the numerous fins and amended articles of incorp tell the tale from 2004 to 2012...
I say we leave the "story books" to the CEO...
Waa Waa Waaaa manipulation/kids house/FINRA etc.......
"May ? Vuifinancial was still officially the IR people"
Yes May 2011.. Volume started a bit earlier but May was the initial "to da moon" pump based on "CEO going to China" PR.
OTCmarkets dot com charts documents pinkys well with an excel file one can download. Timing matches perfectly with the same time period from this very board. The early accumulation is pre/early May at trip zips. (down from the Bogden news, which one would have thought should have raised the PPS well above what it did but, private financing was in effect during that same time period..)
Suddenly May 10th 11th Kapowwwww....
One can go back to around message #20,000 (and earlier) to read the progression as it all follows the chart.....
I trust those charts for pinks better than any others out there. OHLC gives as much needed being "interactive" with a data file.....
"I think otherwise, look not what the crowd is doing and.." prefer to BS the future baggers with pure lies..
Not to say the company "cant" be "viable" but..... Maybe not enough to be 6.5 ba ba billion shares publicly w h0red out "viable"....(explains the mindfking with a R/S)
Co. financials have had enough time to prove the CEO the Hero it once thought it was.... Epic Fail!!!!! All expected is the future PR explosion possibly leading to more/new baggers..
"..start a TOPIC about the CEO mail bag letter.."
If it isnt hurt or hungry, let it cry itself to sleep....!
:)
"T4T was done to prevent further abuse."
Where do these ideas come from? A struggling company is going to ask for Trade for Trade status because they suspect illegal activities with their stock/certs?
So, they know something is fishy with the shares but dont know that T4T will have an effect on investors/volume/acquiring shares after????
It is more likely that the numerous series of 504 placements the company issued took the stock to T4T status and there was limited actions the company could do to prevent that short of turning back time and filing bankruptcy.....! It was almost out of shares and cash explaining the emergency retirement of shares by the CEO to be used for private financing.... Most likely a non restrictive bout of financing explaining the pump in May as it all fell, especially after the announcement of 6.5 ba..ba...billion shares newly authorized on June 16th 2011.
Oh wait.... Message board manipulation took and held this companys shares in the trip zips: Per "facts and figures" taken from the companys' "mailbag"....
Windbag more like it.....
WaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaWaaaaaaaaaaaaWaaaaaa.....
Bag o' tears??? :)
"Everybody knows, Mark is cleaning house and a R/S is in the mix to account for all LEGAL shares."
The only house cleaning should be done at home involving an audit that was promised how long ago!!!!!
"It's a blessing as even the A/S will be reduced to 44m."
44 million would be great if feasible.... From 2004 to Q3 2011 the company has not been able to survive with out some sort of financing. Now after private placements/dilution..etc, investors are to believe the company will be CFBE on a steady basis because of the product seen on the ground or the share amount is reduced?? Please.....
One thing the low share amount does do is give someone with the right capital the ability to take the common shares private should the PPS continue to fall....
"I'm stoked as we all know the value will be increased considerably."
Just with the R/S or with the PR bananza some expect...
Reverse Split.... hmmmmm a bit late aye?????
"No worries here. I did my DD! Thanks"
Same DD as stated pubicly - "the no compete clause just ended not too long ago".... Is that the DD current and or future investors should respect? A blatant lie!!!
"I just came across this... perhaps it's imminent".
What does any part of this company (TYTN) have to do with the NASDAQ/OTCBB???
The OTCBB has higher standards for quarterly and annual filing than the Pinksheets.... I believe most companies that say they want to uplist to OTCBB dont because they have to rise to a higher standard of "TRANSPARENCY"....
Full disclosure??? oh no no nooooo........Neverminddddd...
Funny stuff indeed!!!!
:)
EDIT "The fact that if his inventory he accumulated by selling shares results in distributorships, knowing that if product is moved, it will be replaced in a timely fashion, and a tractor business comes to fruition..."
(distributorship...s?).....
Hmmmm.... "His/Inventory - He/Accumulated"... Shouldnt that read the "company/investors".....?
Pulling Power 12-24-2009:
Changed Market
Blah blah blah.... 8 yrs into business...sold out to......
By that time his purchases from China had hit $2,300,000 every quarter........
So, TYTN INT. "started" 2004.... Almost 8 yrs into business(2012) and all investors have to hold their hat on is "how much" of a loss was recorded per the most recent filings "Q-3 2011", Yet believe the loss will be counteracted with highly dilutive practices in the name of "running out of product - prevention"??
WOW........
"understand that ML has sold a little over $200K of inventory in 9 months."
VS:
Ordering products at the cost of 2 mill, 3 hundred thousand per Quarter, back in "da good old days"
No they dont, CEO worship is still strong though..
Trading pinks via messageboard has nothing to do with "business"
(company wise) Da business is in "givin da business" to....
Just...hang'n out... Word...
We be pullin 4 ya Mick.....
haha
"2012 and beyond" Are we there yet? Getting closer! Did anyone guess where the next Tytan dealer will pop up? Will it be a county? A state? A provence? A country?"
Didnt invest all da beer money, eh??
Funny stuff.....
:)
Blast From Past TYTN NEWS - Auditors Hired, Move to OTCBB
Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:33:26 AM post #888
KALAMA, Wash., Jan. 20, 2010 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Tytan Holdings, Inc. (Pink Sheets:TYTN - News) today announced that it has appointed DeJoya Griffith & Company, LLC, Certified Public Accountants, as Independent Auditors to audit the company’s financial statements for 2008 and 2009. Since Tytan’s inception, it has taken pride in providing transparency to Investors and the company is now in a position where the next logical step is to move to the OTC Bulletin Board. The audit process has begun, and on January 5, 2010, the auditors came to Kalama, WA to do an on-site verification of the company’s inventory.
"Unfortunately, last year Tytan had entered into some financial commitments that would not have taken much stock. However in the middle of that process, the manipulators successfully scared many investors with false accusations and thus the stock prices dropped drastically, while our commitments did not. Also hurt from this, was Tytan's ability to use stock as banking collateral value. Thus we were forced to increase the amount of stock".
Only manipulation I see on the chart is a PUMP....
Pretty much always a 90 degree straight up then 45 degree down...
PPS is right where it should be all considering......
This aint no "hangout"....
"you will see that I am entitled to get a $6000/month salary and that I have not taken any payments in these hard economic times"
Past 3 Qtly reports have no mention of "not taking payments" but do mention "rent/upkeep".... How about "consulting" monies?
Combined or seperate from CEO salary?
"I do not see the split!! Today it is the R / S, right?"
I have postd numerous times that the date on the ammended. art.of inc. are but a company date not backed by any FINRA info.
The company if serious about it's valued investors should PR the date that FINRA decides. AKA be in by yadda yadda date to receive the split...(which would have been yesterday) All that was submitted by the co was thru the SOS Col. filing with nothing towards the investors publicly.....
So, no new issue today : TYTND = something not right....
Be it probs with company paperwork or concerns from FINRA as requesting more info/delay in confirming info or an outright denial??? tytn is a company with product on the ground and proven sales (good or bad) so something should conspire soon if the company has its I's dotted and T's crossed.... Hahahah
Asking for alot there maybe?????
There is a company p a s o that just did a R/S with no PR to investors but was done in a timely manner and are now back trading at it's original ticker a hair above RS price but with much lower volume. As I had posted not long ago, some companies have this process down pat........and some dont.....
What should investors expect though? In the Q3 filings the company admitted to just finding the Bank letter concerning its line of credit... How long after the Banking issues started????
If that is the norm for important documents (more than some silly filing on the OTC which cant be verified) than why should the R/S have been expected to be realized by the companys "effective date" filed in Col........
The CEO can explain if FINRA required more documentation
/information....
Then again maybe the effective date is 3-2-12 and just call it a typo????
Either way, the company is not very transparent and has sold ideas that have turned out to not materialize....I do believe I remember a time when some AUDITED FINANCIALS were in the works....Maybe even some talk of "UPLISTING"........
Food for thought:
How many "patents" are out there under tytn holdings/int vs under the CEO..? (the ones I read were the CEO's property AKA M.L.)
Is there a cost for tytn int. using these patents and if so, is it going to the patent holder?
The CEO says no "pay" has been "taken" so what keeps the CEO working so hard? Pride? Idea of "future" grandeur? Idea of future full ownership/private?........
More questions than answers, more shares than revenues, more soap opera then "Empire"...... hahaha...
Anything can change and higher revenues could start coming in at any moment..... Will they be above costs????
Things that makes ya go hmmmmmmm.................?
:)
"..didn't have the products they are now selling 2 years ago"
Neither did the competition.....
"You can't expect sales to hit the roof when NEW EPA approved equipment just recently went into the market"
Sales didnt hit any roof when the EPA wasnt an issue!!!!
"We are confident the quarterlies will justify pps based on growth. Nobody is worried here..."
Ummmmm, "here" wouldnt happen to be the same planet that tried to pass off a "Non Compete Clause" ending not too long ago, is it?
"There is a Q & A now on the Tytan beautifully designed website which may be helpful in addressing your concerns."
Not that it's my real basis for concern but....I do believe the Q-A on that ...ahem cough cough "cutsie website" brought new concerns to not only the poster you replied to, but many a holder just based upon the thin skinned comments suppossedly made by the CEO.....
I'm starting to wonder if someone from that generation can actually be that much of a marshmellow... Maybe someone else is putting words in its mouth/keyboard...? For Christs sakes Id hope so..... Hmmmmmm Looking at the current shape the US economy/admin is in and what might be elected next... Yeah...., its a yellow sheep with a red n yellow flag flying above Old Glory.. Pretty much explains the pure manipulation of it's investors to date!!!!!!!!
How much deeper should one dig????????
:(
"thorough financial analysis" would come from the $TYTN, not a message board poster."
Made me sign in on that one..... Koolaid believes "tytn" will give any thorough analysis.... AKA : AUDITED FINANCIALS as were promised how frggn long ago????
Anvil has been spot-on with the limited information this yellow bellied CEO has offered.!!!!! Yellow, just like the silly font on the WAAAAAAAAA dont pick on meeee Q-A BS it put out on the goofy website it continues to use...........
Till some kind of real revenue is shown on a steady basis, well, I guess all any koolaider can do is defend....Poorly....
The facts have been written, not by persons short on the stock but by the company it'self!!!!!!!!!
Pathetic!
:)
"Mark's responses are an . . . .
embarrassment to him and his company."
Falls right in line with that embarrasing website...imo
Imagine the potential buyer chancing upon the boo hoo hoo dont pick on me cauthe Ill thew you Q-A session... Funny Stuff
"products weren't selling so he bought more--who does that???"
pinksheet companies that can dilute the pi** out of its investors... Free capital....No required payback.. Preferreds get paid in case of dissolution, commons get whats left.. if anything.
"That's what they should be focused on, not message boards."
but the messageboard has been profitable to the company, bought them a "financing" company it did... or was that thru dilution? hmmmmmm
RE: "5. First ml says a portion of the Bogden proceeds were used to purchase TYTN leasing, now he says it was stock/dilution."
(gotta be embarrassing, kinda like just finding the "bank letter" mentioned during the Q3 report..A bit too late, Aye Mate?)
The Note payable is to Cowlitz County Bank under a $650,000.00 Flooring line of credit that expired October 31, 2009 and is overdue.
Oct '09......... Isnt that when tytn holdings went public????
affirmed in April 2011. Tytan International, Inc. is in default of that loan as of the date of this Quarterly Report.
1 month later, May 2011, the "pump" is on when a month after that June 2011, the A/S raised over 400%... But the big old "M" word caused the PPS to slide to the low tripzips....
"Please answer my question directly/No deflection, no avoidance, just a simple explanation."
Imagine that....Never did address the "no compete" ending not long ago comment so dont expect anything more than an "in developement phase of company comment...(since 2004?) Im sure investors would have hoped answers to questions like yours vs the why is everyone picking on me rant from the site..
Tractor company or thin skinned internet soap opera?
Heritage Bank acquired only $329.5 million of the bank’s $529.7 million in assets
Looks like tytn wasnt an asset found worth "acquiring"... Maybe because of the "no compete that expired not too long ago"..
?????? hmmmmmmmmm
Sure!!!!!!
:)
"...what you get when you have a public company. It’s called manipulation."
Translation: Pinksheet company with failing revenue, May 2011 example of "M"?
A)"I have not taken any payments in these hard economic times. Check the financials posted at: XXXXX"
Past 3 quarterly reports (2011) have a line item noting that no rent has been accrued to date and the company pays prop tax/upkeep Have not found any line items concerning "pay"....(still look'n).... Articles of incorp?... $
E) I have never given any family members monies from Tytan or “built” my daughters a new house.
Seriously? This is considered a major concern held by shareholders? WOW.....
F) Sales of Private Placement shares: Shares were sold to raise money to buy inventory, purchase Tytan leasing, Pay for Patent work and much more . This is standard procedure for a rapidly growing and developing company. The key to this is keeping the amount to a modest amount. Tytan did not do this during its first year. Unfortunately, last year Tytan had entered into some financial commitments that would not have taken much stock. However in the middle of that process, the manipulators successfully scared many investors with false accusations and thus the stock prices dropped drastically, while our commitments did not. Also hurt from this, was Tytan's ability to use stock as banking collateral value. Thus we were forced to increase the amount of stock .
So, it was manipulation that drove the stock to the tripzips, not the increase in A/S over 4 times its original limit as the original A/S was almost fully diluted????? What drove the increase from .0004-7 to .0045 in May 2011 just prior the A/S raise, great financials or maybe that "M" word?
The 504's, restricted or not?
G) "Reverse Split: As I mentioned, I cannot comment on that. It will take effect when FINRA decides it will take effect."
Comments can be made... Yes FINRA will give the effective date.
"I want to make one thing very clear: I am a share holder, just like you."
Not even close....... Common shareholders have no say in company actions such as, forward/reverse splits, Raising Authorized share amounts etc.........
Was this a "letter in attempt calm weary shareholders" or a "that Ihub board is pi**in me off" rant....?
Oh yeah, it's a: "with my own words on the most popular questions that we can answer."
Nice....
:)
"It's fact! Now WE know it. The company could have shareholders request certificates but with ECN's it's very difficult for an accurate accounting with a 6.5b A/S to match up with what is outstanding."
Not if the TA is doing it's job !!!!!!
Have shareholders request certs....AHAHAHAHAHA.....Company gonna pay fer dat?........Sure...
"...this strategy will force an accounting of all legally held shares."
Looked it up - When a company uses this statement, it DOES prove phony offshore cetificates.. (Learn something new everyday) :)
Conspiracy theory #1..
"I can bet that if Penson is the one involved that they are sweating now that WE know the truth and the house is being cleaned."
So, Penson concentrated solely on bakin and fakin tytn certs because it has no other business practices to concentrate on.... fake tytn certs are the "payday"...????? AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAA
"I guess it would all depend upon whether Mark actually used 144a paper here or not."
It is public knowledge that 504's were used to finance the company. There is no evidence of 144/144a's being issued. Why were the 504's disclosed in the fins?
Washington State blue sky laws??? Would the 144/144a's also need to be disclosed thru Washington state laws?? hmmmm
If tytn holdings is so caring of its dedicated investors why not offer them warrants???? If the company is going to be the "EMPIRE" some say it will, the warrants will only enhance investor dedication thru the future steadily increasing PPS "Payoff"...
Issuing certs for 504's and 144's has costs to then conduct a split needing to re-issue new certs for restricteds?.....
Conspiracy theory#2: (maybe someone inside sold a bit more than the co had during all the increased authorized and 504 filings? There is a fine line in the June filing of 95m (out) shares over the previous authorized increased from the 16th to the 30th meaning 95m shares/cert were sold/issued in 10 bus days post increase or someone goofed up?)
Question:
144 restricteds.... Arent they sales of certs/shares by "insiders" held 2yrs.. ?
144A restricteds.... sold by company...?
144/144a's tradable between Qibs....?
Hmmmmmmmm......
Sounds like a big old conspiracy to me....?
In the end:
The reports show the companys progress and confirm the company was on the verge of being out of shares when the raise in A/S was filed..... The 504's were priced back when the 1st Q was released. .0004 was the low (close) April 26th 2011....By May 10th the closing price had doubled to .0008 with May 25th closing at .0045... over 1000% the 504 average.... Everything since has pretty much been a downhill slide for those investors that didnt channel/trade the highs n lows.
Funny how that 1000% in PPS was conducted on news that the CEO "was going to China..." Whoopty Doooo.... It was pumped!!!!!!! It created bagholders!!!!! Sept.30th (end of Q3) the PPS was still a 100% gain on any 504's priced at .0004
The full year report is due soon. With all the "paperwork" the company has prob. had to deal with lately, I expect them to be late.. fitty fitty chance..?
Full year report should be pretty interesting though... (full year reports have higher standards than the quarterly reports)
Be looking out for inventory/sales, Cash in da bank/disclosed private placement news, Partnerships/overseas dealers/new dealerships in the US... Maybe some news on who would be selling "fake" certs.... maybe from real "fishing boats"...??
"#14 on the breakout board! go tytn"
Now dats funny...
Sunday Sunday Sunndddaaaayyyyy....
AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......
:)
"My guess would be"
"My guess would be...My guess would be...My guess would be..."
The Guess'n is why many got stuck with the mess they'in..
Word.....
SO,
Q2 inventory - 1,608,800
Q3 inventory - 1,979,729
Q3 loss 138,500
Now, early 2011 the "owner" returned 700 million shares of common stock to be used in 504 private placements bringing $555,650 in "financing" thru the 3rd Q... Public knowledge....
(The "owner" had these shares returned post A/S increase)
3rd Q report has the O/S at over 3.25 ba ba billionnnnnn...
3rd Q report: cash on hand $54,975...
3rd Q report: returned 700m shares to "owner"...
Over 1 billion diluted shares (excluding the 700 returned) thru some sort of financing be it more 504's or open market..... yet the inventory only raised 380k considering the amounts taken from the original 504's as well the new 1 billion at what ever price...
Inventory did not increase enough to call the dilution a "great move" especially considering the loss of sales/revenue for the 3rd Q..... Drop da Koolaid.... Numbers are played!!! Looks like time for a TYTN "Live Aid".... charity band..
No really.... If at all possible, wake up.... Sure it's a real company and they have stuff.... So does my local deli and they been around since the 90's..... Doesnt mean they should go public thru da Pink Sheets and actually expect it to pay off for their investors.....
If the R/S happens on the company schedule then investors have 3 more business days to buy shares at the current PPS... Could be a Paint on Wednesday? What happens after that is a calculated risk pending on "News" and "Tradability" concerning the ticker.
Good Luck....
:)
"Good thing I'm educated in the matter to know the difference."
Hmmmm....
"He couldn't as he had a binding NO Compete clause that went for 5 years after selling Rhino.
That just expired not to long ago while the footwork was being accomplished."
Same School?
3 business days left to see if TYTN becomes TYTND....
"If, if,if the a/s was raised for dilution-(IMO it WAS NOT)where is the volume?--there is not any. Proof that this was not the motive."
HUH?????????????
It was shown in the Q3 report!!!!
2nd Q over 1.5 billion out....
3rd Q over 3.25 billion out....
What do you call that other than DILUTION?????
Unreal..
:)
"Am I missing something?"
Nothing important except that the second submission is a bad fax from prob. that same machine that threw out that old "voting BS" everyone debated over for a week not long ago....
Oh, and on the first document the CEO's "black" pen didnt work too good so he switched to a blue pen where as it looks that the writing instrument he used on the 2nd submission worked just fine.
As (noquit) posted not too long ago- #77580, the most likely reason for a revised date is the company had to provide more information to FINRA.... Judging from watching this company for a couple yrs now, I dont doubt they were either confused on what was needed or just plain lacking thru ignorance.....
Some were trying to play that the YTO changes are a reason for the revised 3-1-12 date but no support on that was provided..
There are some pinkies out there that are very good at this and a split isnt realized by investors till its almost too late...
TYTN, "did" atleast have the respect to give a heads up on what will happen just didnt follow up on a "buy/sell" by date thru an open public PR..
So, 3-1-12 is the effective date if all is good - meaning one must own shares prior to that date to be included in the R/S... (that is a tytn corp. date, FINRA could wrench that) If not, its trade "tytnd" or wait for the split to be finalized and back to "tytn" before taking a position.. Kinda like a "best if eaten before" date.... (pending on the full yr and 1st Q reports, any date might be kinda stale if bitten into?)
Summing it all up..... The no compete has no bearing on any TYTN dealings just as the T4T is not an option for any "sane" company if even optionable.... TYTN started 2004 well after any no compete deal was null, TYTN used 504's early 2011 on thru 3rd Q as they also raised the A/S late 2ndQ. The 504's very well lead to the Trade for Trade status but the A/S being raised 4 times the original prob didnt help.....
USC COWBOY....Opinion time...
In my opinion..... This guy never wanted to go public and wants to get tytn int. back private ... If the news post R/S does not show increasing revenues with sustainability... Well, the PPS may tank giving a greater discounted price from trip zip 1 with the lowered share amount giving way for the company to be taken private by any entity with the right amount of cash (for the commons) and leverage over the preferred shareholders.... hint hint...
Might be wrong and Poland just started 13 new TYTN dealerships in Warsaw???
Hmmmmmmmmm
"The implement link works"
Cmon, the whole website is but junk..(opinion?).. More pics than real info and about as amaturish as it gets for a "public" company.... One that has investors MONIES to maintain operations..
The site has no "corporate nor professional" look/feel about it.... If the CEO is not willing to pay for a truely professional updated website, one that will provide more info about products than just oversized pics with old youtube vids...(along with some dopey smile at the camera CEO pose) What makes an interested buyer, one that has been thru the competitions "real" corporate websites stay interested????
Enough.....
Good Luck, maybe they will show a profit? play the pump if available. blah blah blah....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.........
:)
So, what is true?
the recent articles off the website or, the past articles from the website?
Rhino sold 1995
Global Times, Pulling Power, 2009:
"Changed Market"
"Eight years into business Leonard sold out to the larger Alamo Group. By that time his purchases from China had hit 2,300,000 per quarter. A non compete clause in his deal with Alamo kept him out of the tractor business for 3 years.
But in 2004 an old Chinese friend convinced him to dip his toe back into the tractor market and Tytan International Inc. was born."
tytantractor.com/Pulling_power.pdf
Over the yearsmany have found numerous items that just didnt add up with this companys PR's, Articles and really bad photo CHopping from the website.
So, question is, How long ago (what year) did the non compete expire?
A) 1995
B) 2000
C) 1998
D) Long ago, enough time to have not effected any business since the company went public (at the minimum)
The excuse of a non compete still effecting business is one lame attempt at explaining the recently disclosed lack of sales/interest in the companys products.
:)
EDIT below: "....maligned and castigated by many here for increasing the A/S and that leading to an increase in the O/S, screaming "dilution" from every hilltop without proof."
WHAT??????????
The proof is in the financial reports....... No if's and's or but's about what the company has recordedand released to the public!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The company was almost out of the original 1.5 bil A/S (Q1 2011) then increased to 6.5 bil A/S in Q2 as the O/S flew to 3.25 bil... by end of Q 3...
That is called dilution.......!
"..cry also has been that this "dilution" and huge increase in the A/S triggered the need for T4T trading rules."
Or........ the 504's the owner used for to fund operations/product etc... could have triggered the T4T since FINRA finds them untasty to say the least.
Does the public have any info on the 504 funding?
(it's quicker than going the legal public company way though)
"..believe he chose the increase A/S as the bullet in the gun to eliminate the shorters with fake "Air shares" by letting them hang themselves."
Air shares, ghost shares, naked shorts... Yadda yadda yadda... See, sometimes when someone decides to sell as someone buys, the brokerages may not have enough shares on hand/under their NCC acct, so a certain amount will have to be borrowed from another. The brokerage must report these shares as "short" because they borrowed.... There is no proof in the public eye that any illegal shorting or significant failure to delivers have occured...
Scare tactics... typical pink dilution tool!!!!!!! If anything, the company may have sold a bit too much around the 1.5 bil A/S time period forcing the quick increase of the A/S to over 4 times the original number..
"Good work Mark, we will get to the cheese, just a little later than we originally envisioned as we deal with vermin."
HAHAHA.... 2004 to 2012
"Maybe - perfectstorm seems to think it's been moved to 3/1/2012. No evidence other than his post though."
There is evidence of the 3-1-12 date....
UNREAL...
In the end anyone in at say .003 from the last pump n dump will soon need .45 to break even...(hope a majority were able to average down since then?) The PPS will be 0.015 to 0.03 post reverse split if it isnt pumped or painted the day/s prior... Gonna need some damn good news/revs to jump that high post R/S.
EDIT (via censorship):
"verify it by comparing the obo and nobo list to the TA register."
(bet most have no idea what those letters mean)
Anyway,(IMO)
Shhhhhhh.... Ya cant give away all the actual legal business methods to performing as a real public company, one that might be interested in its real investors, on what it "should or could do" concerning the past, current - future investors. But then, dis is da pinkies.....
(atleast charge a fee for that kind of info)....
In the end:
Facts are facts........ Opinions are for naught contained within the use of company numbers, not future outlook, but taken from "public records"...... (Opinions based upon said facts seem to have been proven worthy though)
Ex:
FACT: A/S was raised.. Opinion: lower PPS expected.. VALID
FACT: Bad Q-3 numbers.. Opinion: even lower PPS expected.. VALID
FACT: A/S 6.5 billion.. Opinion: future R/S expected... VALID
Waiting on the "full year" report as well the 1st Q 2012 not long after... One never knows, maybe a new set of opinions will be formed based upon new facts????? (ahahahahahahahah) sure......
Still waiting on them there Audited Financials promised how long ago now??????????????????
Nice!!!!
:)