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a lot doesnt make sense
like wasting company or should i say shareholder funds/resources on buying companies that bring nothing to the table other than your friends/associates/attorneys
this whole thing has so many holes in it you could strain pasta with it.
but lets all ignore that.
get them cheap shares and buy some on the dips!!
exposure to who?
the average joe who would subscribe to the service was far away from anything that would be playing this show.
its an internet based radio show. what do you think the listener numbers are? not much i would bet. how many people outside the investment world knew it was on?
they prd where investors would find it. thats it.
lets be real here for minute.
where could a potential subscriber find out this show is/was on? potential customers dont listen to this.
they see-
banner ads
they listen to terrestrial radio
tv spots
newsprint
not corporate strategies with connely on internet radio lol what a joke.
yes, give it more time
let them stall to figure out more ways to reach into unsuspecting investors pockets while also figuring out how to shut the doors once theyve milked it for all they can and leave the shareholders holding the bag.
as far as the dishonest comment someone had made earlier -
you cant call someone dishonest
who has a disclaimer at the end of every statement he disseminates to shareholders that essentially says - i may or may not be lying. im looking ahead and it may not materialize. poo poo if it doesnt.
i dont call that dishonest, i call that using a loophole in the law to lie your face off without having to answer for it. thats what i call it.
still no revenues
still no subscriber coount even those these big acquisitions supposedly at least doubled their customer base.
still no quarterly reports
still nothing. zilch.
man, that bag everyone will be holding is getting bigger and bigger day by day.
100 percent of all startups
fail when they do nothing to bring any customers to the table.
when the only people you market to are potential stockholders, that spells trouble with a capital T.
when you gag your ta, again trouble with a capital T
when you give no real information, just speculation, conjecture and PROJECTIONS that equals more trouble, big trouble.
when your investor relations line is a sprint/nextel cell phone, yikes, still not good.
when you acquire companies from your friends and attorney for stock, again, big trouble.
when all of the companies you acquire popped up over night and have po boxes with no physical address, and all within 20-30 miles of each other, more trouble.
add up all this trouble and you got a whole lot of trouble with this stock.
1 year
since its inception and not one banner ad, not one, anywhere on the net.
no radio
no tv ads
nothing other than "acquisitions" to gain subscribers? or enrich our friends/associates with shares to dump on unsuspecting shareholders?
in reference to other posts i have to say this-
as far as board meetings go lol what board? guard dog has one employee according to dd i have done. who is he answering too? don? the man with the golden word answering the phones? did they set up a folding chair and table in that broom closet they have in reno for important "board meetings"?
which by the way smells fishy to me. how can you list yourself as a company having one employee yet have don answering the phone and also allegedly have a call center? that doesnt add up now does it?
yes we do know
he formed another bogus company under his wifes name that is allegedly going to help market this. its so well known i forget the name. national something directory and national something something.
which by the way, still has a non-functioning website. not good for a company thats going to do a mega ad blitz. would love to know what watsons wifes credentials are in marketing.
legends business group - what exactly is that they have done again? other than put together 5 companies, one of which was going to acquire the other 4.
thanks stephen and larry!
they spent a whole lot of money on prs and misinformation marketing, thats for sure.
exactly right
and i couldnt have put it better
when a company spends more money marketing the stock than the product, thats a big huge major problem.
i have seen more prs than ads. in fact, i cant find a single ad anywhere on line. not one place.
this reminds me of
the proverbial dam with a leak in it.
with every leak the cheerleaders are sticking their finger in to block it but then another leak pops up and another leak pops up and another leak pops up.....................
sooner or later, and mr watson included, they will run out of double talk to explain away the obvious.
i myself have brought up several dozen problems with guard dog, their practices/methodology, etc. as have several others.
the pps reflects these issues. until they are explained away with real answers that is where it will be.
in adhering to what has been requested of all of us i will do my best to refrain from using anything in my posts that may be considered inflammatory. to maintain any credibility i suggest both sides of this debate do the same.
you have to stop and ask yourself
why would watsons first order of business be buying all these companies located within 40 miles of himself?
wouldnt the money/shares be better spent doing some ads? any ads at all?
doesnt the fact his lawyer owned one the acquistions set any kind of alarm bell off in any of the cheerleaders heads? wake up.
you cant explain away so much of this yet they have an answer for everything.
first it was they didnt have a physical address because they are a web based business. then you show they are getting no web traffic which means NO BUSINESS and they say the web stats are wrong.
if i am gathering all of this correctly we are to believe alexa is wrong, as is urltrends? both are useless tools because they cant accurately keep track of gaurd dog? are you kidding me?
you can buy those words
your name will just appear farther down the list the less you offer ppc. google lets you set the amount, and you are listed accordingly.
maybe adwords is to expensive and google was a bad example, but there are many and i mean many other, cheaper, means of driving traffic to your site. this has nothing.
i just want to add
the cheerleaders explained away the po boxes and lack of physical addresses for guard dog and the acquisitions by saying "they are web based businesses! its not uncommon to do this".
then we break out the web stats that show nothing is going on with the websites and all of a sudden, a respected, trusted much used web traffic analysis tool is wrong?
no one going to the site is the same as no one visiting your store on main street usa. it equals minimal, if any, business. which in turn means minimal, if any, revenues.
seeing how the integrity of alexa is now being called into question i went to urltrends.com and looked up the stats on all the websites. same thing. it looks horrible.
if these "acquisitions" brought anything to the table why isnt it reflected in the web traffic?
nothing. look for yourselves.
those projected revenue statements watson made were all covered under safe harbor forward looking statements disclaimers, which means, for anyone who doesnt know, he could be and probably is lying through his teeth. and nothing can be done about it because all he has to say was he thought this and he thought that and none of it panned out. an apology for being wrong , if that, is all you will get.
have you noticed
how "pleased" watson is all the time?
pleased to announce this, pleased to do this, pleased to do that
pleased to pocket the investors money and walk away to the next scam/investment opportunity, imo.
all of the prs from mims seem eerily reminiscent of those being spewed out by grdo.
a lot of big empty words that lead to nothing.
as if his mortgage company was going "acquire" and or merge with abp, or advanced blast protection as it is known, a mega million dollar defense contractor. i mean what a load of garbage. what were they going to do? offer low interest financing on tanks or warships? seriously.
i still sit here in awe and ask aloud how any of the nonsense these clowns are up to is legal. florida must be a scam friendly business state. it just doesnt make sense.
the lack of oversight or regulation in pinks? knowing how to walk the fine line between jail time and legally stealing investors money? having a lawyer in on this sure helps i guess. it just makes no sense to me how they get away with it. it really doesnt.
proof
they've done this in the past
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_pwwi/is_200703/ai_n18736313/
why do you think i would be so willing to bet one of my hands lol
watson/carnes - the dynamic duo of duping investors.
what i would like to know is what type of "consulting" works signature did for micro mammoth?
they have many different specialties if you look them up.
modeling services
staffing services
its comical.
the lack of advertising alone
is the biggest red flag of all.
one would have to questions watsons thought process if this on the up and up.
lets issue shares to acquire non-existent companies that bring absolutely nothing to the table , which by the way all exist on paper and within 25 miles of each other, rather than sell the shares and spend a couple hundred bucks on google adwords to gain subscribers.
a few hundred bucks just to appear on google everytime someone types in the id theft key words, and they didnt even do that.
but he spends tons of coin sending out pr's about his wifes bogus company marketing this and all the other nonsense they released that tanked the stock. THIS IS A SCAM. its of my opinion those pr's were sent out for nothing other than to dupe unwitting, inexperienced investors. period. nothing more nothing less.
its a fools paradise here in grdo land.
you cant link into any of their websites other than by typing the address directly into your browser, hello? thats a serious, major issue.
how many shares do you think his attorney got for that bogus company watson "acquired" from her?
how many shares is his wife being paid for that nonsense website that isnt even functional?
you hate to laugh at people in bad situations, but anyone who doesnt see the writing on the wall here deserve whats coming IF you and i are right. they really do. its pretty scary how easily duped people are.
but as they say, "a fool and his money are soon parted".
they sold on the news
because they realized it was a scam lol
idwatchdog lol watchdogid
everyone slammed on the brakes and said wow, i cant believe this.
the stock rose in anticipation of the first acquisition, nothing more. then when the investors got a good slap of reality the downward spiral began.
the mm "games" seem to be the preferred scapegoat for what guard dog really is. there are no games, just reality. no one is willing to pay more for this garbage.
another bogus pr after that sent it down even further, and the pattern continued with each new bogus pr.
cant deny that.
and this was done
by design?
or by coincidence?
well, why not by coincidence? i think this company holds the world record for "coincidences".
the name similarity
i think was done on purpose during a hyped pump of this.
watchdogid, idwatchdog? confused? a lot of people were.
that was when the stock was on a major upswing. that was the first bitter pill investors got when they realized, hey wait a minute! thats not the real company. this is bogus!
he got over on quite a few people with that one. then people caught on.
and thats why it went from a high of mid .007 to what it is today.
all the lies and deceptions, thats why.
take a look at
Supplemental disclosures of non-cash investing and financing activities here http://www.pinksheets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=6583473
$170000 worth of stock sold for "consulting services". who do you think the consultant was?
stephen carnes? i would bet my left hand it was.
better do more dd
watson is tied into a bogus shell stock
mims
http://www.pinksheets.com/edgar/GetFilingPdf?FilingID=6583473
please make note of the address used, look familiar?
it should, its the address for guard dog.
note the check next to "yes" under whether or not the company is a shell.
also under 1511 dodd road
watson enterprises
watson mortgage
micro mammoth solutions
watson investment enterprises
watson also is listed on filings for legends business group
the people marketing this
http://www.secinfo.com/d12TC3.ub2r.htm
1511 dodd road is a residence. probably watsons.
question
how long do you give this before it hits .0001-.0004?
i say within 10 days, though before i gave it less time.
then within a week of that it will hit no bid, and watson will be driving a new mercedes on the investors dime.
you agree? this is just sitting there ready to implode.
you know all of them are sitting around trying to figure out how to squeeze everyone just a little more before they jump ship and move onto the scheme/scam/investment opportunity lol.
this one took a lot of planning and i dont think they are done yet. i mean they went through the motions. maybe thats how they avoid getting noticed, everything seems on the up and up until people start asking questions and usually by then theyve moved off to bilk a whole new round of investors.
your thoughts wb?
clarification
watson "acquired" a "company" with a very similar sounding name to a legitimate id theft company.
watchdogid is watsons spoof he hoped he would dupe the investors with.
idwatchdog.com is a legit company that actually does advertising online, print and radio.
pardon the confusion, watson and company were counting on it during one of the runs.
i dont get how there wasn't a copyright/trademark issue. im sure there is, does the legit company know about this?
they have advertising!
watsons wife is handling all of it. remember? that national something directory lol. what a scam.
the website isnt even a month old. and isnt searchable. the search engines cant even index it lol because it was designed that way.
dont forget about some bogus online mall that no one has ever heard of that he said was also marketing this.
pure rubbish. all around.
im sure they would and possibly could
heres the issue
you have watson, who has had dealings with stephen carnes and larry powlicz. both seasoned guys who know how to walk the walk in this game. carnes has left many, and i mean many, shareholders holding a big bag time and time again.
hes never been prosecuted but he has been investigated. apparently he knows the loopholes. im sure hes taught watson a few tricks.
my take on this is- watson is just a front man. as well as the dupes who put their name on the paperwork for those nonexistent companies. carnes is the brains behind this whole thing, imo. hes done this before and knows what hes doing.
watson, carnes and powlicz all have the same attorney, barbara moran. she was listed as owning one of the "acquisitions". she must be the one walking them through the legal loopholes in this.
how can your attorney own one of the acquisitions your company bought? i dont see an issue from her being his lawyer stand point, but isnt that kind of fishy to anyone besides me?
their are so many stinks coming from so many different places is this whole guard dog scheme its hard to tell where the worst is coming from. its just safe to say it stinks all around. and i mean all around.
good point
or bother to release financials/numbers to shareholders from 4 alleged acquisitions. the whole reason they gagged the ta. now the ta is allegedly ungagged and still nothing.
wbwentworth, they will say we are wrong, watsons wife is working hard to mega-ad-blitz this with her overnight closet based business he pr'd. thats in between shopping and counting the money they bilked out of the investors.
poof. smoke-n-mirrors, slight of hand and a few well spoken words is all it apparently takes to get your hands deep in someones pocket.
what this company is about
everything is so vague, many conclusions can be drawn.
dd is screaming scam. a share selling machine that will go belly up within 6 months.
then they move onto another venture/scheme/scam and a fresh round of investors to bilk. that seems to be the m/o with these guys.
i stayed silent and let the cards fall where they may the past few days.
with no news and no numbers one can safely assume the grave is being dug as we speak.
how does a company get subscribers with zero advertising? they dont even have google pointing to them through cheap adwords. that alone screams this is bogus. when you cant find them other than typing their url directly into your browser or into a search engine , thats a major problem, and red flag i might add.
for today i am changing my tune
i hope this runs, in fact i feel one coming on. nb, you are onto something.
no sarcasm intended. truly.
i think she has one or two more left in her to be honest with you.
i did my dd. it told me, to the dismay of many, what i conveyed on this board.
i could be wrong, i may be wrong, all of it was my opinion based on what I FOUND out there. some of you pointed out errors i had made before, and i readily admitted them. so YOU may find something different, go with your own dd.
nb ( i think it was you, if i am wrong apologies in advance) said it best when he rebutted a statement i made about zebras not changing their stripes. he said he was proof they do. i cant argue with that, even not knowing his story. so with that said, maybe watson is trying to put his nonsense behind him and build a real company. im a pessimist when it comes to someone playing with my money, so of course i look for reason not to play with it more than i find reasons to play with it.
with all this being said good luck to all of you. i will zip it for the rest of the day and maybe even the week unless its something good/neutral.
guard dog could and may very well be all that you had hoped it would be. the irony i am faced with now is i hope you were all right and i was wrong. weird huh? i dont like to be wrong, and at the risk of sounding arrogant im usually not lol yeah right, but in this case i will make an exception.
good luck all, and may the dog make a sprint or two more.
off to the golf course.
may today and the days ahead bring you prosperity.
that wont happen
imo they have already milked this as much as they can.
another pr would send this to .0001 unless it was news thats clear cut and verified by an outside party.
this is in its death throws in my opinion, unless they have huge, blockbuster info they have been holding back on. i dont see that happening. history continually repeats itself in guard dog land. the same players keep doing the same thing over and over again. why would this be different? the next pr is the final nail in its coffin.
no news coming no huge run on the news because even if they release some, just as youve seen before, the news sends it straight down because the big players know its bogus.
theyve only released fluff because thats all they have. if this was a creative writing company you would all be millionaires. they arent holding back on anything. when youve allegedly just paid shares for a company do you kill or pump their value anyway you can? do the math. the shares that were paid were sold back in the higher levels. to think they werent is beyond naive.
if they had anything of substance they wouldve released it by now. they know the investors smell something rotten and they continued to release questionable pr after questionable pr.
i think those prs were to lure in inexperienced, unwitting newbies to dump this on, imo. the experienced investor saw this coming miles and miles away, and if they didnt shame on them for lack of dd.
im not suprised
or shocked by the confusion. its part of the game that we all know as guard dog.
slight of hand, smoke and mirrors - all part of this huge messy equation.
there is no way to even verify if any of the "acquisitions" existed anywhere but on paper.
the websites were all created within the same time.
the companies all happen to be within 40 miles of cassleberry florida, all have no physical address and all use po boxes.
still no word on what or how they were paid for, or what they brought to the table, but we do know this:
watsons wife had an overnight start up that is one the marketing vehicles for this. the ink wasnt even dry (so to speak) on the website when he pr'd that. one can assume shes getting paid in stock that has probably already been dumped into investors hands. imo
his lawyer, barbara moran, was owner of at least one of the "acquisitions". again, probably paid in stock that has already been dumped, imo.
jessica benshay, an owner of one of the acquisitions, was involved with a company that got hammered for lec billing fraud. lec is a key component of the guard dog billing story that sets them apart from the competition. draw your own conclusions on that one.
legends business group is marketing this. larry powlicz is ceo. he succeeded stephen carnes as ceo so stephen could go work over investors with signature leisure.
larry, stephen and james all use the same attorney and have been in multiple business dealings over the years.
they also have used the same addresses you see with guard dog and the acquisitons for other bogus business deals.
too many connections to too many bogus business dealings to be anything but another bogus business designed to steal, although somehow legally, the investors money.
the cheerleaders want everyone to ignore the red flags that pop up with every step that is taken in this. i say do a lot of research and you will see this for what it is: a scam, imo.
ok, who is don at guard dog?
and why is his word so golden around here?
don is getting paid to answer the phone and tell investors what they want to hear. thats all this golden boy don is.
im sure what he means by rude is legitimate questions coming from investors about this scheme, ummm, i mean investment.
people are supposed to be cool and level headed after losing 80% of their investment only to have management play dumb and throw out double talk? are you kidding me?
the key word is
"seems" to be a front for shady characters.
i have always been fair and said there is nothing i can find that conclusively links watson to these people IN THIS ENDEAVOR, other than he is using the same attorney they all have in previous bogus plays. however, the fact he is using the same addresses and is operating in the same fashion as they have in the past leads to only one logical conclusion here.
as pointed out, one of the acquisitions was using an address watson used for his defunct mortgage company. that doesnt send up at least one red flag? and another had his lawyer listed as the owner? again, red flag???
the acquisitions were non-existent garbage. done on paper and pre-designed to pump this, and also to dole out shares to other players in this. no doubt in my mind, but only my opinion.
the old saying goes, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, well then you have a duck on your hands. this is waddling and quacking, so what do we have?
no golden opportunity here
well, maybe to get out while you still have your shirt on your back.
i read that it was a "golden opportunity" to get in back in the .003-.006 range prior to the news everyone was anxiously waiting for.
"get 'em while they're cheap" was the cheer of those days.
now this is a golden opportunity? after the bogus news was released?
this is going no where but down. imo
nothing substantial in terms of news/info so why would this go any where?
now that the news has been released that everyone was hoping for and it was garbage, the anticipation pump is over, again imo.
why would anyone expect anything different in the next pr's to come?
big news coming! big news coming!
we've all heard that before. and nothing happened. they released news that a second grader would know is nonsense.
why should anyone think the next round of prs will be different?
down 40% ???
try down 80% plus in the past month or so. thats reality.
if this company is/was all the cheerleaders want you to believe then why is the pps where it is?
all the prs have been nonsense. fluff. nothing verifiable in any of them. all fluffy fluff. fairy tales, smoke and mirrors. if the news they released was REAL and VERIFIED this would be multiple pennies right now. it isnt and you get what we got right now. zilch.
real players have seen this for what it is, and the current pps reflects that. im surprised it isnt lower to be honest with you. no mm games, no manilupation. its trading where it is because thats what traders are willing to pay for it. nothing more, nothing less.
expect something shortly?
sure. lol.
another huge, major acquisition? we know about the acquisitions and one words describes them: garbage.
another relative set up a website and hes going to give them a ton of preferred shares for their work? lol
some more huge, over-inflated bloated estimates/projections based off of nothing but watsons imagination? great. lol. real beefy, meaty news.
another pr coming means one thing for me - that the pps will be right where i said it would be - .0001-.0004
i hate being right sometimes.
ok
the ad blitz is coming out of his wifes closet, or one month old bogus marketing website.
sooner or later most of you will realize you've been had. for some i hope sooner. at least you will get out with your shirt on.
7 million in volume
and over 5 of it was sells.
this puppy is looking like it is on its last leg at this point.
barring a miracle i would be surpised if this wasnt .0001-.0004 within 7 days. imo
the chart is trash.
what is watson doing?
maybe he will at least hand out branded, guard dog emblazoned pooper scoopers to all the bag, i mean shareholders, when this finally hits .0001 and dies with no bid.
no news from the front office
the shareholders are over the coals right now and nothing, not a peep.
they must be busy counting your, i mean their, money. too busy to put something out that might actually help the investors.
WHERE ARE THE FINANCIALS MR WATSON?
WHERE IS SOMETHING SOLID, ANYTHING SOLID?
SMOKE AND MIRRORS, AND WHILE THE INVESTORS WERE DAZZLED BY IT THE MAGICIAN EXITED STAGE LEFT.
THINGS ARENT LOOKING GOOD. NOT GOOD AT ALL.
my opinion is
and everyone heres knows it, is this is a scam.
look who watson has behind the scenes - stephen carnes, larry powlicz. nothing directly connects carnes, but i would bet my life his hands are in this somehow. all the companies he is involved with are involved, so why wouldnt he be?
these clowns use the same addresses over and over, scam after scam. the m/o is the same as well.
seasoned penny investors have heard those names before, and know to stay out of anything they have their hands in, whether directly or indirectly. watson is just a puppet imo. carnes is the brains behind this. and he always leaves the shareholders holding a very big bag in the end.
you seem to know a lot about this wbwentworth. have you heard of these players before and the nonsense they have pulled? i am sure you have as you sound like an experienced player. if not look them up sometime. very interesting reading about these guys. how they have managed to stay out of jail for fraud really baffles me. they walk a very thin line and must have enough experience to know not to cross it.
hypothetically
what would this cost to set up? $20-$25 grand, with prs and websites and po boxes.
now consider this:
if it is a scam, and even though i personally believe it is i will say IF, do the math:
300 million shares at .0010 is 300 grand, THE CURRENT PPS. if done slowly and methodically a over a period of time those numbers could be quadruple that.
add the other hundreds of thousands made during the highs and lows and wow you got a huge chunk of change to split between you, your wife and several buddies in on this. a couple of million split up 5-7 ways is pretty nice for a $25k investment, isnt it?
its all legal, i think. somehow it is. i know it is, seems like they know how to do it.
THE SERVICE IS REAL, I SUBSCRIBE!
i know i am going to hear this so i will address it now.
how do you know they arent an affiliate reselling someone elses service and making a commission on each subscriber? lots of companies let you brand their service as your own and resell it. not to mention having a working service is good for appearances.
THIS IS MY OPINION ONLY, DONT BUY OR SELL BASED OFF OF WHAT I SAY. ITS ALL HYPOTHETICAL. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH! (good enough prof?)
they did release "big pr's"
what they didnt count on is everyone saying: who? what? you did what? with who?
"we doubled our customer base"! ok what are the numbers then? a deafening silence follows.
unknown, unrecognizable acquisitions that just happen to be owned by people he knows and has done business with before.
for petes sake one of the acquisitions was using an address watson himself has used in the past for other bogus failed companies lol
"we project hundreds of millions of dollars based off of what other companies have done". ok, so why does that mean guard dog will do that? what are you basing this off of besides what the competition, and successful competition i might add, has done?
"big marketing campaign, celebrity endorsement"! ok who? bigraygun? c'mon. not to mention that big marketing firm his wife started in her closet. what a joke.
if all of this were good news, then why did the pps tank each and everytime the big news came out? because, thank god, there are more experienced investors out there than those who arent who took a whiff and said, whoaaaa, hold on.
80% pps drop
thats because all the hype prior to the questionable news. or as we like to call it, pumps.
then the bogus news comes out and questions start being asked that no one, and i mean no one, apparently want to have answered.
still no word from the front office on ACTUAL, REAL numbers.
celebrity endorsement? we gotta raise the a/s to pay for it! lets take bets on that one.
what did the acquisitions bring to the table? certainly not 300 million shares worth. you can rent a po box and website for under $25 dollars a month total.
and when they are all within 20 miles of each other, owned by people who all know each other from past business dealings, one thing comes to mind - HUGE RED FLAG
but i am just a basher, what do i know?