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MSX has continually requested from shareholders funds to give to you so you and Torres could continue the legal fight to prove claims rights.
The MWR?MSX PRs even stated to shareholders that the success in this endeavor was a risk.
We are still in this fight to show your rights IN CHILE.
What has changed is we are shut down by lack of proof to stop investors into paying more into this story and in so doing protect the BCSC/TSX et al, should the fraud story prove to be correct and show the exchanges were complicit in protecting Barrick.
If you have provided proof and legal background why are we not today filings a case by MSX against the BCSC/TSX/Barrick in their complicit actions in propagating this fraud?
These people have never met JL nor will they ever.
What the hill do they know, only us real lucky people who read this board know the truth right JL?
https://www.kitco.com/news/video/show/Market-Analysis/3223/2021-02-19/Rising-yields-have-not-changed-golds-long-term-bull-course--Peter-Hug#_48_INSTANCE_puYLh9Vd66QY_=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kitco.com%2Fnews%2Fvideo%2Flatest%3Fshow%3DMarket-Analysis
Yah right, you know down deep inside you love me and my bent MSX mind.
stay well............and yah that was a strange post based on how many sites and posts by that entity.
JL the past has shown us that you having a case admitted into the ledgers of the courts in Chile has everything and anything but a win to account for its ending. There have been many have there not?
Thus far the shareholders of MSX, the only folks who follow this board, have never seen any wins nor had any wins to talk about regarding the fraud you claim against Barrick.
If you wish send some, one case number and one win to make me (US) eat these words.
We would welcome the news.
If it were so Barrick would by regulations need to advise its shareholders as the result of a proven fraud against them would be a severe event in their stock valuation.
Barrick have never made any public announcement other than stating in the last pages of their filings that there are some legal issues ongoing and they make no qualifiers as to projected results nor any qualifiers as to the potential of losses from those legal issues (PASCUA LAMA).
Thank You! So kind of you to keep that precise a following.
Can you imagine that after all this time we do not seem to be any closer to any vindications of our original beliefs.
Even the second coming is easier to believe in.
We have to be in need of some professional help.
Any recommendations!
Somebody trying to be funny....yes!
I also had to cancel for the 10th time my order on the exotic Ferrari I had ordered in anticipation of this windfall.
OK OK OK, it was 1/64 scale die cast but still............. disappointing!
https://goodsmileshop.com/en/CATEGORY-ROOT/16-directions/KYOSHO-Mini-Car/KYOSHO-1-64-Scale-Ferrari-12--Box-of-20-/p/16D_CAR_WD_00011?site=goodsmile-global&lang=en
YEARS and Years ago I told my bank managers that I would be depositing a sizeable amount of denieros to my accounts. All coming from a windfall earning in a mining endeavor I was involved in. They hired extra security guards in order to be compliant with this news.
They called yesterday to advise the guard had died of natural causes and old age and would not be replaced.
I feel bad!
JL states :
f) The 2006 Judgment still stands and was stolen in criminal fraud. Which will not be able to be reverted... CMN SpA owns TESOROS 2010.
It never did, it never will. Not even after O $ $ A was paud to lie. TESOROS is ordered to die, in its place AMARILLOS SUR and NORTE to revive. That Judgment shall be upheld.
Is there evidence of this in the courts in Chile and if not what is preventing this to come about if as you ay you have the evidentiary proof after all these years to bring this into being law and order in the foggy world of Chilean Mining jurisprudence.
Feel free to attach any court orders, claim documents, titles and such!
When I heard Berkshire Hathaway had purchased Barrick stock I was rather surprised in their choice.
Barrick has a tainted reputation so I figured there must have been some sort of a deal between Barrick and BH to get them to place a position in their stock.
It would be against SEC rules to have a joiner or other structure in any stock transaction but these days there seems to a wild west no holds barred in the markets.
This is why common folks have lost faith in the markets.
Berkshire buying Barrick stock was a much talked about deal when it was made less so in the disposal of the position?
Berkshire H will not state their reasons.
All seems pretty fishy to me, smell like fish, taste like crap!
movie at 11:00
YKR YKR YKR YKR...........?????????
JL states:
"That contract is a VALID OBLIGATION to Barrick to constitute my mining assets to PASCUA MINE 1997-2021 or all to jail for signing a false contract
2006 Judicial decision stands as it was stolen in fraude with false testimony something luke O $ $ A at the hearing but worse.... they said BARRICK and CMN SpA owned TESOROS 2010. That is a crime of crimes."
JL I am having an extended senior moment, happens more regularly these days than I would like.
SO yes Barrick CMN did buy your asset.
Condition of sale is they were suppose to get it up and producing.
From there they were suppose to pay you and your band of merry miners a fee as well as ROYALTIES from the production.
Nope, they reneged and changed everything and restructured the deal to pay you $20.00 and then Hasta Lavista Babby .
This on their books in restructuring the deal has been a REMBRANT of legal labyrinths.
You gotta hand it to them they were really pissed at you and your gang for scooping their Lac Deal!
So now on a countacause they they did this the sale was put into question by your extensive legal efforts but is still valid on the registers in Chile.
Can't be both. What needs to be done to get this straightened out.
Real tired of this ping pong match. The ball does not bounce anymore.
MTStack has posted legal backup where Chile court cases show Valdes et al has been making chopped liver out of Torres and his nuisance cases over on the stockhouse posts. There seems to be valid legal rulings to support the statements made by the BCSC. These need to cleared up if they are in error.
You certainly have been working hard to get this done but so far no sign of success.
If there was some success Chile SERGEANOMIN would need to publish it ...NO?
Well maybe not to the Buffet "hisself" but to his legal department.
Do not mean to defend but yes worse has been sent to ALTERNATE UNIVERSE dept. for complete annalysis.
Say Braelorne we need more of your input. More importantly for us here in the outhouse of life with our MSX shares in hand for useful applications, what do you think Galati is up to in our case vs the BCSC?
If I were Galati I would want at my age to get this thing out there so I could become more notorious in the land of the legal maestros.
Perhaps he would need to drop his rates to say $1000.00 for the whole thing. I'll send him a cheque for it myself.
Too dad Warren does not believe in GOLD as a store of value.
It was his people who did the Barrick thing. He may have been unaware of that piece completely.
Since Warren and you are known to each other, it could have been a source for future working capitol.
What was the real arrangement you had with Villar and the Groupo Ojanco?
If Villar was your mining agent, why was he working against you and why did you have to pay him off to get him to relinquish whatever rights he thought he had on Mina Pascua?
Yes I know the past is always worth a revisit.
Yah where is it, we have waited so long for the Kaboom and now today we land our Kaboom probe on the RED ONE. Hopefully!
Some posters have powers here that only kings could have dreamed of.
https://www.kitco.com/news/2021-02-18/Warren-Buffett-exits-GOLD-entirely.html
Hey there all that out there ..... still!
When you ask yourselves why the sale of Mina Pascua Lama by Villar to John Lill is still on the books in Chile's mining registrars, what answers do you give yourselves?
Yes still on the books as valid!
Can not be owned by two separate distinct owners at the same time now can it?
just interested is all
movie at 11:05
Thanks, making a good MSX offset with EGT.
UP UP and AWAY WE GO.
Oh what could have been!
I would have liked to DRIVEL more today but I am too busy driveling all over my MSX and WPM shares!
"THE BIRD"
Getting back to Lopehandia.
Why is it that the original sale by Villar is still on the books or is it?
Are the court documents true or false?
Are they a mirage shimmering incredulously on the Chile court books?
Never knew he had a sister as he was adopted and was sent by angels.
I guess his path to the havens was pre planned.
His ex-wife wrote some pretty far out stuff about him.
He was rather entertaining was he not?
That stuff he wrote of must have been true, heck even I could not have made that stuff up or anything close to it!
How did he pass?
Did his hole (life) catch up with him?
Do you know where he was interred or cremated.
The evidence we seek is likely buried with him.
LOOK in the JAR stupid ..... THE JAR!
Yah still a mystery how a native art flogger gets involved in a shady mining outfit.
I guess the results prove out the point.
Still if we all knew the time and effort in a loosing cause we may see it different.
The crap that went on would be mind boggling to house of nuns.
We both know SD and JL did not share the bottle of brown paper bagged Rose a la creme de fruit.
We are however led to believe that SD had a piece of info he was using to leverage his position with BJ. The story however on the JL side was, well, it was so vast in scope that old SD got the shive and was put aside.
It is not known to us if BJ had any knowledge of the material content of what SD was holding or what its sources were. BJ did spend an eternity going through the all data, records etc even had a sleuth on the case.
That lawyer Pepper was going to take this piece of evidence and run with it. Where to is unknown.
The only thing BJ has to remind him of these efforts is a period of time
of incarceration in the Hoosegow. Maria got to him. Sad really sad, seriously, after all that effort and we all still strongly believe Fitzgerald was a serious crook.
We see very little chances now of proving out any criminal charges for Barrick in the Pascua Lama case now and "to infinity and beyond"!
Do you believe SD had a smoking gun piece of evidence obtained from his father's dealings that would have assisted in the cases against Fitzgerald?
Newgold I guess Warren was reading your posts and decided to get out while the getting was good. Something was a coming RIGHT! Not sure what, not sure when.
https://seekingalpha.com/news/3662530-warren-buffetts-berkshire-pares-apple-stake-exits-jpmorgan-holding-adds-verizon?mail_subject=gold-warren-buffett-s-berkshire-pares-apple-stake-exits-jpmorgan-holding-adds-verizon&utm_campaign=rta-stock-news&utm_content=link-3&utm_medium=email&utm_source=seeking_alpha
Does a post have more merit if it is posted several times?
Perhaps I will engage in this in order to anger and frustrate other posters.
As a WHEATON PRECIOUS METALS shareholder I see things a little different than JL.
The agreement between Barrick and Silver Wheaton called for Silver to be delivered to Silver Wheaton from Pascua Lama in compensation for a placement of $625 million.
Pascua Lama did not open in the time stipulated so an agreement was made to have the silver supplied from other sources Owned by Barrick's mining holdings in place of the Pascua Lama silver.
This kept Silver Wheaton's shareholder whole and did not require Barrick to repay Silver Wheaton the 625 million plus interest. No Foul
The other significant possible problem was that there was a legal hold on any metals activity from the Pascua Lama non operating mine due to an ongoing going claims case.
Would Wheaton Precious Metals Corporation have a legal case against Barrick if the later misrepresented the entirety of the original agreement.
I think so.
What would be the BSCS' position in such a case. Would they be held responsible if they had knowledge of this embargo and let the transaction proceed without advising Silver Wheaton?
I think so.
movie at 11:00
Mr. Lopehandia could you kindly remind us what was that ruling made by THE MOST EXCELLENT SUPREME COURT OF CHILE in 2017 that paved the way so to speak and recognized your claims to ownership of those UTM Coordinates known as Mina Pascua.
From memory at that time there was the approval by the COURT to notify the BCSC of a case they (BRADY) were involved in Chile.
There had to be more than this? ...... RIGHT!
When can we as MSX shareholders get to go and inspect our jointly owned property and do a little digging?
YAH YAH I know we have a few payments till owing but we need to see and feel our dirt before we make any more payments.
Is the gate still manned by armed guards? If so how many and what are the armaments one would need to deal with?
We have all been taken to the AVIARY by those dodging "The Bird".
Imagine the droppings we will need to deal with once "THE BIRD" gets his fill of the corrupt. There really is no limit is there!
Do you honestly think that anything coming out of this deal would be a learning experience for .... ME?
Like many others I have the deep scars of the lessons all over my 89lb body.
No muns to eat or sustain myself need to pay the hydro bill to keep the dialysis machine going.
Like 18 to 20 years with no sign of life. Time to put it out of its misery. Pass me the 50 gauge please!
Mickey25 there has never been any cash in any accounts that MWR/MSX was ever privy to.
People involved would steal from their families, friends, or other loved ones.
People would mortgage their possessions into eternity for a chance to pluck the GOLDEN GOOSE.
Trouble is they were the ones that were goosed and there was no plucking involved just hard goosing.
Some even sold their kidneys for a piece of the fantasy.
I am a on a dialysis machine, have been for quite a while now. Too old to go begging to get my kidneys back!
It has all gone to hookers and booze, hookers and booze I tell you!
I thought we had a limited time frame to bring our BCSC non accepted evidence to court?
Surely that window has closed by now.
According to Lopehandia his claims are so obvious now that even his grandchildren "AS IF" could be rightful heirs to his fortunes.
Perhaps cause we sure as anny won't be any part of the denouement at MINA PASCUA.
Nothing about this deal, nothing, moves forward. Only time itself!
My take is that having Galati launch an actual case of criminal wrongdoing against Barrick and the Exchanges would be very expensive and would put this entire deal so far into the future we would all be dead and gone by the time any court would hear a case.
1. We have no funds to manage such a case. This has been Barrick's modus operandi all along, keep us broke and in the shadows.
2. Given the time it takes to hear a case in Canada it would take so long it would make a grown man cry tears of frustration.
3. It would be a lot quicker to get us all together with pick and shovel and take over the property and start digging and panning.
Artesinal mining where all that permit crap is not required. Permits, Permits, we don't need no dam permits
If Barrick make any attempts to stop us we show them our rights......yah yah, that's it, show them our rights and titles over their fake and non existent ones. Have camera crew and news team to film the whole deal.
4. You can keep what you dug up, Guanaco dung and all.
I went to see the RCMP Imet some time ago asking them to bring Barrick in on a formal arrest over this fraud quoting Lopehandia's position.
I believe the receptionist and Inspectors I met are still choking on their laughter after all this time.
Case 001 indeed!
Mike25 I thinks a lot of finger pointing needs to be directed at Johnson and not Lopehandia.
Johnson's revenge addiction directed at Barrick (Fitzgerald) was in large part in need of a serious FIX that was supplied by Lopehandia.
Like any other dealings with those addicted you had to go along for the ride with Quer and all the other long term shareholders.
There is no medication for this type of addiction.