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again Thorpe "will be" "on track" those kind of terms are grey area nothing concrete about them. Take it to court and see how long before they bounce you out.
Get me my boots its all Thorpe at his best. You almost had me going, but your technique is more transparent than TRT technology! Talk about word smithing whooo hooo!
You can dig up all you want Thorpe there are no dates "working with major players in 2009" SO? yes its the same theme over and over but again it wouldn't hold water in a court of law so get over it move on, learn whatever but stop with trying to prove something to me you have done this over and over again especially when things appear to be so bleak. Smell blood is the way you come across to me. IMHO
Could be one thing or it could be Harvey getting his pay. Depends on how the contract was written. Plus the fact of all the negative press floating on both boards spooking everybody and anybody. Time will tell I'm not going to be hurt either way. I think it would be great if this technology did come to fruition and I don't understand why people are so against that idea.
Are you serious? being developed hec he could be designing it in his mashed potatoes. You guy's know full well he is a master at how he phrases things. And to his credit many people read too much into it. Do you think you could win a case against him using this as evidence? good luck.
Again its the phrasing.. I'm not sticking up for him, but being assembled is not saying completed. You can have one halfway done and find a flaw or any number of issues. We are talking about a devise that is aimed at the eyes you get a different wavelength of light coming out of that bad boy and you can kiss it all goodbye.
Not really Thorpe, Do you want to know why that is? because you are making a point of it. Tell me how many parts are there in a Dazer laser? how many of those parts have to be farmed out to other vendors? Just throwing theses out there.. stop me if its causing a migraine. What if there is a hitch in the supply chain, looking at the picture of one being assembled it looks like it has to be set up in a jig so there must be some precision to the assembly, how many technicians do they have to perform these tasks flawlessly, in a nutshell.. shaddap.
The part I still have difficulty with is the most recent announcements with WPBPD and Lehigh. I mean he is so close; closer than at any point in this whole companies history how can you not give it every single ounce to get it in their hands and get the trials started.
Good one!
I hear crack makes you very combative also. BTW someone said they had spoken to a worker at LEI and said he was out. On the 4th I got this..
Sent: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:22:46 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.
Delivery to the following recipients failed.
jharvey@laserenergetics.com
Transitioning from a long term position at GD to a tiny startup company probably didn't suit the lifestyle he had grown accustomed to would be my guess. BTW the website is back up with no obvious changes made.
Well even though he has been a let down in the investors eyes there is no doubt in his ability to lure in some big name interest. I just hope that just one freek'n time he delivers the goods to Palm Bay and doesn't screw the pooch. A person has to believe that he is well aware of the situation I don't know anyone who could have survived this long without both common and business sense. IMHO
I agree.. they did have him on the Dazer contact page as the general manager or some bs title like that. So hopefully they are scrubbing the website and adding some fresh material. We all know its way overdue for sure.
Websites go down sometimes when they are being worked on like when you need to remove a key person's name from the roster and/or add someone else.
I would imagine it is possible if someone ever decided to go and check it out instead of just talking about it.
Yeah holy cow JH is gone...wow can anybody tell me what he actually did for this company besides being a traveling salesman burning through cash? I don't recall hearing anything out of his mouth. So if anything its one less lump to feed. And wasn't he already gone from GD before he took this gig? I say go get Rick Stans and kick this thing in the A$$ already WTF over?
I'm thinking there is more to putting this devise together than anyone realizes. One, the dazzeling effect. Optics take precision alignment, and in order to keep it that way over the units lifespan of being dropped, dunked and exposure to the elements it has to be packaged very well, two the power source, three the lockout timer, four, the range variation. Put all of that into a package the size of a flashlight and well the reason for the delays seem to come more into focus. Not to mention the money situation.
Dunno I hope they manage to get the units in PBPD's hands by the end of this week, but not if it means giving them something that's going to perform like something made by ACME!
He is another person who never replies, the only one who consistently replies is one that should have received JH's position in the first place...go figure..probably too good at what he does and intimidated BB. oh.. IMHO
Same with me but two days ago it bounced as in no account. I tried again and cc'd ryan. Ryan's went through but not JH. Nice to have the designated Dazer dude's email not working. I'm guessing he no longer is in charge IMHO; probably just as well since all I have seen is this picture of him holding a Dazer with a stupid grin on his face. Good job!
Speaking of bouncing anyone try emailing John Harvey lately?
That may be true but again IMHO a smaller civilian venue may provide more accurate results in that there are less levels of management to deal with.
Also the effects are going to be the same regardless of whether its civilian or military because they are all still humans.
And let's not forget law enforcement in the US and abroad is pretty big business.
IMHO I believe what is happening in Palm Bay is this companies "all in moment" its put up or shut up time. Assembly lines and CEO stories is all just a bunch of noise at this point in time.
If anyone thinks that nobody is paying attention to the results of this trial is being foolish.
So strictly from my point of view and being long on this stock I actually hope its a success I know that's not in style right now but hey i'm stupid that way.
which 5 guardians are you referring to? Palm Bay? they said they have those.
To quote the manager they should already have or will have in the next couple of days. This is the city manager talking I did not contact the police department directly although I was given the Deputies name. Don't ask me to post it here I don't want to have these guys getting slammed and then pissed off. Maybe in a week or two I will do a follow up just depends on how much info LEI passes along.
I just got a call back from Palm Bay confirming the 5 Dazers will be in trials and one of the Deputy Chiefs from that department will be overseeing it. If that isn't progress then I need someone to give me a better definition.
I guess the five units to Palm Bay is just not enough to even aknowledge. I want armies! now! marching across the globe with one in each hand!
Good post K.C.
You are asking me for verification? get real dude. There is not one person on this board that has done that ever! It's all stories true or not is up to the listener maybe that's my problem/solution I listened too much. My advice to you is hop in the car with a pen and paper and jot down all the questions you want to ask the Great Oz.
Later
Stockmule I don't recall asking you any questions. The SP is what it is some people get spooked by things they read on a blog sight even if there is nothing more than implied credibility. The Dazer is getting into the hands of people who are going to use it and provide valuable feedback. This isn't some paddle and ball contraption that gets approved by the local walmart. This effects people directly in the eyes no less and you or anyone else for that matter that expects it to be fast tracked by a small startup company is sadly mistaken.
The key word used is "virtually" as in computer generated. If those are the words he used then it could easily have been misconstrued, because in order to be prepared one must build a floor plan in autocad. That way the designer will know exactly how much floor space and materials will be needed when the time comes also it makes it much easier to project how much time and money it will take to be operational. I do believe there was mention the first few Dazers would be built by LEI and then the process would be transferred to GD. But hey its not happening quick enough sure glad people wait till the last minute to divulge information gathered back in October although I seem to recall you saying you bought back in @ .07 a couple of months ago..whatever.
Why thank you bmoonbuddy for stating the obvious. I too would make sure I had plenty of liability insurance...wouldn't you?? probably not you're special that way. And selling at cost is probably not as bad a marketing move as you make it out to be. Do you know why that is? probably not but I'm going to give you a clue since you still haven't obtained one yet.
Now the devise is out there and being used, viewed and talked about by fellow police officers...hmmm I wonder if that scenario is a bit better than some salesman standing at a weapons expo talking about it and giving demonstrations.
Have a good one doggy.
yeah that's comforting
120 share trade at the end WTF! Just when I thought I had seen it all this garbage happens. These frik'n people are really starting to get on my nerves.
Oh I know Thorpe its been scary for years now but what validates this latest devise is the fact that you are campaigning so hard against it. Why? most people are aware of the risk involved it's no secret if I really needed to validate I would just make the trip to NJ and sign the nondisclosure and be done with it how about you?
Why would you think that Thorpe? if everything else, according to you, coming from the company is total BS then why would that information be "golden?" See your argument is riddled with holes and you should probably cut back on the meds.
You are speaking for yourself Thorpe and since you say no dollar amount for the Dazer has been mentioned you must have pulled your dollar figure, along with this current flood of BS, right out of thin air! But keep it going if nothing else you are entertaining this morning.
Palm Beach kinda throws your theory out the window Thorpe why not attempt to address that. Oh I forgot that's positive and recent news. Your anger and disdain for the company is only going to work against you just for that reason alone. I had my 7 y.o. niece read your posts and I asked her what did she think the person's mood was and she replied "angry!" very angry and I said... yep.
probably why this isn't "on the way up" due to it never gets a chance, bumps up a penny and its a mad rush to push the sell button...beautiful and inspirational to boot.
Why the worry
There has been a sale and the buyer is, from what I gather, fairly well known in the law enforcement community. So do you think quite possibly these folks communicate between one another? Is there a possibility that being the first to have a Dazer in their arsenal will spark some curiosity with those who do not? I would count on it. And it looks like with GD in our corner we are going to be prepared for it. So I'm looking forward to a bright future but then again maybe I'm just stupid.
I'm sure they did but as far as the SP goes his PR obviously wasn't exactly what investors have been asking for and that is numbers. Just have to sit tight. Like it or not we are only going to get the information the CEO is willing to let lose of.