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The Engel Machine shipment should be on the LQMT YAHOO news site and also at the LQMT site...
no, that part is real, and could be very big....the rest is what could happen...with the new TurnKey Machine.
I'm sure with all the applications of a metal that is going to take over the world...those numbers will also be possible..
A Turn Key Mould Machine is going back to Engel for final enhancements and approval. Its a joint design effort between Engel and Lqmt scientists..Once that's done, LQMT and ENGEL will be selling BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of dollars worth of the machines....plus perhaps LQMT going into its own production for contractors...thus creating more BILLIONS in profits...other than that..nothing is happening.
LOL>..I'm giving psychological words of encouragement. If Lucy of Peanuts can charge 5 cents so can I. Even on the Titanic, the bland played until the ship went down....not comparing LQMT to the Titanic ...but.....in times of need we need words of hope.
I do believe...from some DD of folks here...and STEIPP and LQMT"s words....and the announcement of the Turn Key Machine....that maybe, as I said before, those prototypes fell by the wayside.....
and now all focus is on getting a machine that will do the job consistently. And hopefully we can believe STEIPP/LQMT this time....that the light at the end of the tunnel is the ENGEL machine.
And that the new agenda, isn't so much LQMT or VISSER production....but ENGEL selling the machines to companies to do their own production. And perhaps LQMT and VISSER also having machines for companies that don't want to buy there own. So the vision to me has expanded greatly. Perhaps, selling the machines...with LQMT getting part of the profits on that...and having its own production facility too. I'm not sure where APPLE is in all of this. Maybe they will get first buy on the first TURN KEY machines...if that is so...LQMT and ENGEL are co owners of the patented machine...then LQMT will be making revenue off the APPLE products..as royalty...not something we were counting on before.
The scenario is getting more complicated. And perhaps, those shares of LQMT will be used for buying ENGEL machines...for their own production empire. Its possible the tentacles are growing on all this...
as I step back and look at all we know now...but there will be others that only see disaster ahead.
Assumptions to ease the mind: In regard to the massive amount of shares not issued. It helps if one assumes they know what they have...a metal worth tens of BILLIONS of dollars...and now, the "TURN KEY" machine is being perfected, since it seems prior attempts at producing product failed in consistency. Now they are very close to all the production contracts we have been waiting for.
The ENGEL machine is about to be mass produced..and all our dreams will come true.
You're welcome.
That will be 5 cents please.
"hate to say it" but it just popped out like the creature in Alien.
I don't know where ENGEL is with the machines. It may be the Turn Key machine that's now at Engel is the only one that works with consistency, and that's why we haven't heard of any more prototypes and no word on the springs...it may have all been BS...or LQMT realized there were too many imperfections/rejects. If that's the case...APPLE may not even have any machines for the Liquid Metal. But they may be very close. This is just a guess. Just like everyone else. Remember, when OO told us about the "Canards" he saw on his trip...they were REJECTS....if I remember correctly....if they had a perfect canard....wouldn't they have displayed that??? Correct me if I'm wrong...I don't want to search back on his report. Thats what I think I remember. And that may be why Lockheed hasn't tested the rocket with the CANARD...because LQMT can't show that they can make production quantities.
BUT...this ENGEL machine..that's now at ENGEL..may be the key to open all doors...
And my last post for today..(unless something big happens)..about the enormous amount of shares...
if the company isn't doing anything....those share dilutions will make the shares also worthless to those in the company. An alternative view...those in the company know how far along they are with the patents....they know how far along with other ENGEL machines...and they know the true value of the company if this metal becomes the "prime" metal all over the world..Engel has distribution sites all over the world...if this happens to be true...if they know of the breakthroughs coming.. they also know...LQMT will immediately be worth BILLIONS....if they are going to create a poison pill...its going to take an enormous amount of shares.....because imagine who would want control of that metal.
And how much a buy out figure could be. That is looking at the glass half full. It is senseless for them to create that many shares...just to struggle along with a diluted PPS.
Have a good day.
Perhaps contemplate this. The Turn Key Engel Machine is proven. Lockheed Martin initiates a contract and perhaps APPLE comes out with an LQMT Product. Then the analysts start figuring the true worth of such a metal, considering the patents and those in for approval. If that happens...what would one predict for the value of the company. A metal that could replace so many others...world wide..a metal that could be used in so many areas...what would it be worth. Isn't that what we're really dealing with??? And now one can get a share for 15 cents. Is that a good bet, even with all those shares??
Each has to make his/her own decision.
On the bright side...this should be it as far as more unissued shares...and...it seems they do believe this will be a $10 Billion dollar company... Hey, its only 15 cents a share...risk/reward ratio is great.
There are many more irons in the fire than the first of this year. Lockheed Martin news, ENGEL
Turn Key Machine, approved patents, and there is always APPLE. So there is more potential for great news at any day. Anything that can spike the PPS will also spike the value of the unissued shares...
higher price, less shares need to be issued for cash. We are a long way from Chess Sets and tiny prototype springs. Or so it seems. And a little more psychological comfort in holding shares. IMO.
LQMT has dual ownership of the ENGEL Turn Key machine patent, also has the Crucible Patents that I'm sure will be used with the machine, and who knows what patents are in for approval.
Perhaps a different configuration of the same metal. Hopefully it will all amount to something.
A little over the top but I like the idea.
Yes...probably....but I have enough info to satisfy me from PR's etc...and his description of the LM piece...he did say they were serious...not a scam.....and who knows..maybe they will find a type of financing we hadn't counted on...anything is possible.
I knew it was me..but your assumptions were wrong about the reason for the name change..there was no deviousness to it.. ...and you were wrong about distorting someone elses post.....and now you put me on ignore so you won't have to discuss your incorrect charges..how convenient for you.
I guess its good I didn't go. I would have given such detail, even to the type and number of donuts served. But I liked the "feel" of the report. We've all been given some very good tidbits in the last few weeks. Financing is a problem, but...that's one thing that could change over night. I think I'll post less myself..to the relief of many. I feel much better of the alternatives to the future. Risk, yes...always risk. I found a new outlet for my obsessive writing...so , rejoice.
Just a thought, about the canards for Lockheed Martin. I don't know why LQMT can get any development funds from LM, if LM sees the canards as a big positive for the system. Maybe that's coming after LM is assured they can be made. If the rocket system is a government contract then don't see why LQMT can be a subcontract to the LM government contract...and get funding. Maybe they are.
Having been in government contracting there should be some kind of cost plus basis contract. Plus, LQMT would be considered "small business"..and thus gets many more privileges to funding if the government is involved. Especially up front funding if the company is on shaky financial grounds. Even for prototypes.
If you could respond to the one directly that you accuse of twisting others posts for their own agenda, and also changing their name because of too many ignores...maybe the air could the cleared...
as long as the words are civil.
Reading Oracles post again...and trying to read between the lines. And being a "glass half full" kind of person. It seems very positive with risk. Yes, its sad the IPO was used to go down the wrong road, but perhaps in ways, back at the time of the IPO, there wasn't the technology to develop it anyway.
OR, APPLE may have not come along to help develop patents that define LQMT. There are many variables, and who really knows what may have happened. But we are here. And if everyone approaches this as a "long term investment" that seems to be putting forth encouraging news each week now...maybe we'll get a nice pay off. And remember his description of the Lockheed Canard piece....like if you see it it will knock your socks off. I imagine Lockheed is seeing the same thing..and not just for the Canard. They have to be saying to each other.."Okay..this stuff is amazing..where else can we use it." Do not become obsessed with it. As Oracle says..in so many words, don't bet so much that holding the stock becomes an emotional burden. If this pays off like we hope, having just enough shares as to not greatly effect your daily finances, will be enough.
I have a feeling a few here are going to be buying more shares monday.
Thanks for that write up...vague as it was....I think it was quite positive.
If its that "disconcerting", then I guess some folks will be selling and moving on??? Or staying to..to what???
But they can't make hulls of ships or the skin of airplanes like LQMT can. ; - )
Hm...that's quite a long post to answer to. I'll try to be brief...but I do like to write. My philosophy
when looking at and having experiences in other stocks...no matter how bad things look now, you really can't predict the future of a company...in many cases. I won't list examples. There will always be the situation where two people can look at the same company and the same facts, and one sees great promise and the other sees disaster ahead. Just look at the "shorts", on message boards where the stock is skyrocketing from momentum and even from revenue. But there will be those that are screaming to sell... Some may see disaster, and some may be hooked on shorting no matter what the case. Even when all arrows point up. It is truly amazing in some situations, even when its obvious a stock is on a run, there will be masses shorting it.
What's wrong with those wanting the stock to fall to get in at a cheaper price?? Well, a few things. First I'd wonder why they didn't get in cheaper when they had the chance. Also, if such individuals think in the future there will be good tidings for the company and they are deliberately talking down the stock to try and get investors to sell...morally I find that reprehensible. Even those that do it to do quick trades. They may not have the power to influence, but its the mere fact they are trying to get investors to sell, for their own selfish reasons. I'd question other aspects of their personality too.
Those that are "over enthusiastic" like me at times...its not to take advantage of anyone. Its just me looking at the glass half full. There is a BIG difference in intentions. Yes, I have been a bit negative lately, or less enthusiastic...but I still have my shares. What could be the future?? Well, we all know what this metal could be in the future...the only question is...where will LQMT be.
About riches in life. Oh, yes, I'd love to have a HUGE bank account...but at my point in life, all the dynamics of being rich seem so shallow anymore. No longer do I want the big mansion. No longer do I want the expensive car. No longer do I have to prove financial success to myself to prove I am a success. My definitions of success have totally changed. So why invest?? I won't. After this stock..whatever happens...I will never invest again. Because beyond my belief I have landed in a sweet spot..very little my doing. A home paid for...in an area I never want to leave. A decent retirement. And I can still cut way back if necessary because my idea of "needs" has changed so much. I am happy with how fate, and miracles have brought me to where I am. I am stunned most of the time that I wound up where I am. And as I said...it was through horrendous happenings and prayers for help...that got me here. I am blessed beyond reason. But I still want to stay in LQMT and see where it goes...even though selling my shares would give me a nice chunk of change...its my last hurrah in stocks....
Good grief...I wasn't expecting so many posts when I got up this morning. Some with a good sense of humor. Thanks for that. The battle between glass half empty, glass half full continues. As I look forward to this investment that still has the potential to rise like the phoenix and turn an emotional wasteland into a joyous hootenanny, I will quote a great human being who had his life plundered a few times but got up and went on. "My dreams are dashed but I will make do." And that's what I will do if some others are right.
And as for my opinion on LQMT right now...I don't have a clue...none at all. For me, it could go either way. Everything about it is much more complicated. More Patents, and today, an APPLE Patent without the Crucible name on it. The ENGEL/LQMT Turn Key Machine and its patent. Canards shipped to Lockheed Martin. More shares approved but not issued. More rumors on APPLE 6. So many things going on and most of them total surprises to IHUB investors. Each week it seems something new hits us. Visser, Lockheed, Engel, Materion, APPLE, LQMT. All doing things we don't have a clue about. Get out now?? No Siree. Each week more puzzle pieces are dumped on the table for us to try to figure out. Its a roller coaster. Even the daily chart is a roller coaster. And the PPS remains in the 15 area..
it certainly isn't boring.
My disasters in life have brought me the biggest gains...not in wealth. If not for a horrendous disaster in Iowa..I never would have made it to Florida and began travel overseas. And wound up with a house I love, a neighborhood I love. If I had made all the right choices in stocks..If I had held many for a longer time instead of sold...I wouldn't be here, in this place I love so much. Look at so many lottery winners..and the disasters their good fortune brought them. My disasters brought me a great life.
(book coming out later).
LQMT has a lot going for it...as we peek through the fog. It seems to. It has some foundation pins that could amount to something. Analyze some of the negatives that are brought up on this board..
don't take them at face value...don't take the "hype" at face value either...weigh them all..and try to come up with counters to them.
As we go through the frustrations of being invested in this stock..remember one thing. Being rich is extremely over rated. Perhaps put the negatives in one column...and the positives in another, and you may get a clearer picture on the risk. But be honest with both
Lets hope we're right. There are so many facets to this story now, its just a toss up on where its all going. And the more facets, the more points for negativity and also more points for positives. Each side loses effectiveness to influence investors. Now we just have to decide...to take the risk and hold, or bail and move on. I'm staying to see the hand played out.
"And guess which process also functions in a vertical direction. Right, it is Johnson`s Ohmic Heating Process (the competitor Glassimetal):
INJECTION MOLDING OF METALLIC GLASS BY RAPID CAPACITOR DISCHARGE
http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=US76684933 "
So, where is this "Vertical Ohmic Heating Process" in development??? Are they making machines?? Getting contracts??? Has it been proven for line production quantities??? Has the APPLE Vertical Plunger patent been proven?? or is it just an idea??
So, you're selling and moving on?? In your scenario it all seems totally hopeless. Anyone else selling and moving on???
So, we would have to know what limitations are on the LQMT/APPLE patent compared to the Vertical patent.
Thanks..your post made me re read the "Turn Key Machine" PR again. So, now it does seem LQMT has transitioned. Many were wondering how LQMT would make revenues. Can't do it from APPLE. And they can't fill warehouses with machines. And the basic patent on the basic Liquid Metal is over.
Now anyone can make it. BUT, LQMT and ENGEL seem to be co owners of the patented TURN KEY machine...scientists from both companies developed it. And Engel may be ready to sell the machines to users of the metal. ALSO, we do not know what the patents in for approval contain. It could be different combinations of the basic metal. And we know about the SHEET PATENT and the FOAM PATENT, those both co owned by APPLE and LQMT...and perhaps in conjunction with those patents,
more patents will be submitted for ENGEL designed machines...to make the sheets. LQMT is becoming intertwined with APPLE/LQMT patents and ENGEL/LQMT patents. Which will insure their survivability and or value. Its all becoming more complex.
That's all we have is fluff. Its all been fluff. The negatives have been fluff...and the positives have been fluff... It all could turn into anything right now.
Yes. I also posted that it doesn't seem the machines are even in place. But yet they have parts at
Lockheed Martin. So basically no one here knows squat about what's going on. Some of it looks very positive, but it also raises many questions. What is the "Turn Key" machine?? What does it mean??
Turn Key to whom??? What technology is the machine using?? we don't even know the basic plan the company using. Is Visser going to be a manufacturer?? Is LQMT??? Have they changed to the idea of ENGEL selling the machines like they do the Plastic Moulding Machines?? If APPLE is anywhere close...
then what machines are they using?? Nothing makes sense. Many scenarios are possible for the little we know.
APPLE board fired Jobs...then brought him back. Elon's company was teetering on bankruptcy until it got government funding for "green car initiatives"...if that' hadn't happened....there would be no TESLA.
Let us not forget:
LQMT recently shipped canards for the LOCKHEED MARTIN Missile System. A system that takes down rocket mortars. Imagine. I know the US has a system to take down small rockets. Israel has them. Now, rocket mortars. Was anyone expecting the shipment of the canards??
Patents: I believe its a little over 50 patents that have been approved. All in the Crucible I assume.
And 50+ more Patents in for approval. Do we know what those "in for approval" patents are??
No. Did we expect the "Sheet Patent and Foam Patent"??? No. No telling what other parents are coming.
A "Turn Key Moulding Machine" was just shipped to Engel for I supposed further testing. Was anyone expecting that?? Doesn't seem like LQMT has been sitting on its fanny does it??? Engels marketing strategy is to sell mould machines all over the world.
Does anyone have a clue on how close the "sheet metal" or "foam metal" patents are, to use??
No.
Any idea what the true value of Liquid Metal could be in the market place??? A metal that could be used in so many applications to list them would be futile.
Or we could go down in flames. All this for 15 cents a share.
What's surprising is that some seem despondent that the shares were approved. Really??? No, come on..really???? And now I guess we'll see posts of "buying more when it plunges to 6 cents". Or, "SELL ON THE SPIKE..GET OUT AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN." Sorry, not me. APPLE buying LQMT?? Really?? LQMT has a patented Turn Key Machine with ENGEL, that could mean "Billions" to Engel. Think Engel is going to let that slip away?? Really??? It all seems so much more complicated than that. And what becomes of the Crucible Patents?? How much are those patents worth to Visser, Engel, Materion. Billions?? Yes. I'm not hyping nor recommending anyone buy.
I don't understand the frustrations about no revenue. Its like some think that there are machines
ready and waiting for a contract. Didn't the last PR tell us all something?? The LQMT/ENGEL Turn Key Machine?? Now gone to Engel for further approval. Didn't that tell us they don't even have machines ready but may be close??? About Lockheed Martin. Those "liquid metal" pieces may only be in concept...as part of the R&D of the Lockheed Missile System. That's why they can't test the LQMT pieces during these "fly by" rocket tests. They will be tested during the intercept tests...in the future, IF LQMT can get a production line going. Once the machines are approved ENGEL can crank out machines fast. IMO, there are no machines at VISSER. There is nothing to sign a contract with. No production capability has yet been set in place. (and yes my premise of ENGEL buying LQMT is one of my possibilities.).
You are right about the Canard...I was wrong...but now that I know what "canard" is...its even bigger than I thought as to the possibilities..ALL GOOD...yes, you have a right to be impatient....you've been in since the bad years....how you kept in during those horrible times..I have no idea.....