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yes he shorted his own stock and is covering with the money in the SVC fund, makes sense why else would he allow it to drop so low.
at last disclosure how much did TS have in the SVC fund?
unfortunatly I was to busy calling Dede LOl
Chunky I just figured it out TS in his brillance used the money in the SVC fund to short SWVC and is hoping to buy it all back around .0009. Then he will release a PR stating he has retired 40% of his Series E's shares & paid off all the new CD's with cash from earnings at which time all longs will be millionaires. Something like Dr Cavasin did with ACMG.
Viva maybe we should start a questions we want answered here so you can maintain it above,
I know I want to know what we got for the money spent on the dirty shell we bought besides empty air, why did we pay off KK's debt? Do we own 10% of Zeropoint or did TS give that to himself and KK for nothing.
What does TS figure he has done for shareholders to earn 260K for 6 months
Why is TS and YA manipulating the SP or so it seems
What has her said to YA that we as commoners were never informed of
I am beginning to smell a rotten rat here and will definitely visit him in person especailly if he allows the future CD's to convert. With the money he has stolen from the commoners he could pay of all the current CD's.
Does anyone have a legit list or summary of questionable activities that we've seen take place the last 6-9 months with SWVC and Tom and associates.
DK212
With that thought then do you believe that the Yahoo shareholders who feel they were wronged by the Yahoo BOD should not complain either?
I know I mentioned another stock here but it is relevance to the statement that shareholders should not whine when infact the Yahoo shareholders have a point even if most consider them as whiners.
retire or use 49% of his e's for aquisitions
If TS R\M's this before reducing his E's to help the overall situation then he will be walking on eggshells with the pi$$ed off commoners especailly a few I know who will take it up with him in person.
What bothers me is his and IR's lack of communication regardings calls and e-mails. What good is an IR dept if they never answer investor questions.
Been watching it for quite a while since buying into the hype. Guess it's a lost cause since I get no answers from the IR dept on none insider questions.
His full hand will show if he keeps diluting rather then paying off with cash. He has nothing financially to lose unlike the commoner. It could become very embarassing to his family though as many will not go down quietly.
myself I will definitely take a short 2 hour trip to visit him face to face whether he likes it or not.
I understand you still have faith in him but myself I have loss some with his actions involving YA after they supposedly told him he could not pay off the legacy with cash yet he turned around after they slapped him in the face and continued to do business with them. If we don't get anything with the price we paid for the shell then he is a scammer and deserves a louisville.
If the ownership (10%) of Zeropoint comes with the shell then I can understand the reason behind the ridiclus price we paid by buying it along with it's inherited debt.
wouldn't that be considered manipulation LOL
May be time for a face to face visit with our CEO.
Hey Viva who do you like in the Derby sat?
I am trying to decide which of the 3 that have run on synthetic to take. seems those that are familiar with the synth tracks run slightly faster on dirt from what I have read.
Then the question is what does GSWind own or control?
If it does control the 10% or so stake in ZeroPoint does that stake belong to TS on his own or the shell we bought.
Being we paid 20M as some state for the shell and if that 10% came with it then yes we will fly once it becomes known.
I would also hate to see us not get that with the shell since it would look quite bad.
That 10% will be worth 100 fold over what it cost us and that alone would propel our sp upward drastically.
Desperado the big question is did we inherit the % ownership of Zeropoint that the shell had originally. If we did then I can understand why we paid so much for the shell since I believe that ownership % will be worth way more then we have under our wings currently.
I think we shouldn't be saying "If SWCC holds a percent ownership in GERS or Agrifuels" we should be questioning why we would not for what we paid foir the shell. If after what we spent to bail good old KK and help YA make a bundle we do not own a piece then why did we buy the shell and who was responsible for letting it go.
To me if TS allowed that to happen then that would constitute gross mis-conduct on the part of a CEO.
Still waiting to hear about share buy backs, new CD's paid with cash, Series E shares being retired etc all good things for the common shareholder who has lost their shirt lately.
Even though our OS is a little over 1.1B the price seems to reflect what the OS could be once all series shares are converted not what is actually in the OS.
Viva PM an e-mail address so we can communicate while u r in jail
Wow this board was quite busy last night kind of sorry I missed all of the posts till this morning
I still say that TS's motive whether good or bad will come out when he either pays with cash the next new CD when it comes due or allows it to dilute. This will show his hand.
I also believe that the reason for the low PPS is in fact due to the public wondering about all the series shares even though they have not been converted they (the Public) fear that they will thus increasing and causing more dilution.
TS needs to show the commoner that he is going to work for them and not YA, or some other loaner. I am not saying he is only he needs to build serious trust with retail that he lost over the last several months.
I believe most of the disgruntal common shareholders have a legit beef with TS as they have seen YA, and the rest rake in millions while they have loss.
I currently own quite a few shares but am red as most longs I feel are and will wait for TS to show me he is going to work for the commoner before I add anymore.
Currently the jury is out on TS and his method as I to don't understand what we got from the GS shell other then large debt which I agree has been paid as of yesterday's news.
good luck to all longs hopefully TS will act in our favor and not in favor of the leeches that loan money.
are you serious I was hoping for .10 EOY
Great to see the news regarding the old legacy cd's (001 & 015) are paid off.
Hopefully we get something regarding share reduction soon.
My question to those who have more knowledge regarding the new CD's than me is:
How does TS validate going forward if and when one of the new CD's with the anti-shorting clause starts to hit that the holder is not shorting the stock at that time? Hopefully he doesn't take the word of say YA? How does one actually monitor who is shorting? With YA's past history of greed I can't for the life of me believe they will not somehow make money both ways its their current method for all lent money it seems.
If someone could explain the checks and balances TS could use against YA or any other CD holder to be sure they are not shorting in vilolation of the anti-shorting clause in the CD I would appreciate it.
I see some over the weekend are hinting at the possible reduction of shares if I understand their hints correctly, this would be a welcome site to have happen as long as those shares are not converted to e's, d's etc but are retired but then TS would also need to stop further dilution as well no sense buying back only to further dilute when the new CD's come due.
He needs to stop robbing Peter (common shareholder) to pay Paul (Family, Friends Ya etc)
Chunky:
For your sake and mine as well as the rest of the longs I hope you are right. But I would feel alot better hearing TS say the 015 CD is done so all legacy debt completed, and also hear him say that they are paying off some of the new with cash.
If he continues to allow dilution which has no ill effects on his holdings, his families or business partners and only allows YA to make tons then I will be upset to the max and will take it to a higher court which I own the controlling 80% in if you get my drift.
I felt tje same way in the beginning but currently TS has to prove he is honorable and upright for I have lost faith and 75% of my investment because of his dealing with Cornhole and his "lets make the friends and Family Rich attitude"
TS has not risked anything financially in DWVC no matter what happens he still come away with at least his initial investment costs before any of us see a red cent.
I was trying to determine what health care coverage management has but can't find it listed anywhere. Hope for their sake it is excellant.
If he tries any backdoor crap, (R\S, or taking it privete for less than .15 a share buyout) its going to get awful in upstae NY.
There was a time when longs would wish for .05 or .07 seems some have lowered their hopes maybe we will hit .01 or .o15. I haven't I want .15 or there will be trouble, I don't want to see any losses going forward especailly after he so blatantly took a 260K salary for part time work.
Why has he become a ghost of a CEO which he wasn't in the beginning, is he afraid to face the common shareholders who have lost millions with his deals using Corbhole the leechers?
Everything above is IMHO
I am a shareholder who happens to think that greedy CEO's or those that structure a company so they can't lose but the commoner can are just a piece of crap until they prove otherwise.
Thank god I wasn't in GSCF for that rape of shareholders but if TS tries to pull that con here he will answer to range justice.
What bothers me is several months TS was there for longs when e-mailed now he is a ghost.
I will be the 1st to sing him praise but not until he gets the common shareholder value above .05 without any R\S technique.
If he lets greed get the best of him and screws the common shareholder he will never enjoy the money, Range Justice will prevail.
I also don't feel he deserves the 260K he took for pay as my account shows red so how does he justify that amount.
TS if you happen to read these boards becareful with your motives there are those of us (my group) that will not tolerate greed, scams, or conartists whether intentional or not.
IMHO SWVC started as a good idea but seems to have inherited some of KK's style hopefully TS with take an antidote before the infection ruins him and his family's values.
The antidote is out there its called honesty and openness with shareholders
hang in there the rats that drove it down and have bought recently will be pushing it back up to rake in a triple. just wish I had been informed this was going to happen I would have waited and bought almost 3 times the shares instead of watching them make a triple while i wait to get back to even.
maybe TS will take his 260K and buy 61,904,761 shares to add to his 20M bonus and then retire them from the float.
Guess i can dream
Sounds feasible except if TS is allowing the price to drop to that level so YA can do just that, wouldn't that be outright planned manipulation?
Don't think he would take that open of a chance.
I do believe YA is behind the SP spiral which is why I personally wouldn't give them the correct time of day nevermind jumping into bed with them on the new CD's.
I know there's and anti-shorting clause in the new CD's but really who has the time and resources down the road to monitor whether or not they do short? Its all about their bottom line not the company they hold the CD's on so can they really be trusted?
IMHO NO
was actually doing the division myself and saying with 4000 shareholders and an ave 0f 250K per holder heck something doesn't make since, unless 2000 or so of those holders have real small amounts say 5 to 10K.
no restricted sorry for the confussion
So you feel TS is allowing YA to cover their short position?
per Amie
1,124,473,667 OS
1,079,426,783 FL
45,046,884 RS
any word today on the SEAWAY ATM machine sharecount maybe TS needed some lunch money so he added some more shares, must be expensive taking all those insiders out to eat to determine how to get more blood from a stone
there more then one way to get justice
This is the line I like in that acknowlegement
Investing in our stock is highly speculative and you could lose some or all of your investment
should be followed by
While myself, KK YA and are friends, family and rich inner circle make money to support our current living standards
Gee I don't feel bad I am only down 72.73% LOL
Wonder how much KK, TS YA and the rest of the mutt & jeff crew have made.
Considering we have not had any statements from TS showing concern over the SP seems it doesn't bother him that those who have supported his lifestyle and that of his inner circle are down.
Wish I was in on that inner circle to know when he was going to let is dive so I could have bought 3 times the shares to flip on his next pump. Sure smells orchestrated.
No word from TS shows no concern for the investor, bet he still takes the salary and bonus for what.
increased shareholder value RIGHT
So much for his grand idea's of dellusionism or is dilutionism
Seaway should buy a hospital with a good padded room for all of us making money currently. LOL
Silence of the Lambs
Don't look good Viva, only ones making money are TS and YA and their cohorts
and for this he felt he deserved a salary of 260K plus 20M shares
yesterday I needed a dbl dbl to get even after this looks like a dbl quad.
Lack of communication by TS in regards to why he is allowing this (and he is there are ways he could improve) oh wait that would mean he would lose some of his investment.
I want him to explain why we had to spend so much for a KK bailout, what was in it for us.
Won't be long a share of ACMG will be worth more then SWVC and no one has heard from that CEO in over a year.
No reponse to e-mails or phone calls from either.
Ridiculus only ones making money are the CD holders and TS
That silver spoon will come back to haunt you
We all have our own idea's of what big is, what's yours 3 months .05 1 year .15 etc.
Just curious