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Crazy thing is it stalled with 4.7m left on the ask - I am not counting on it that the ASK is accurate today because of a tech glitch with some tickers and that market makers can manipulate both the bid and ask. If the shares are gone at .0001 it will move to .0002 - hope so, but I will believe it when I see it.
I too am seeing it could be either way because of the large amount of trades in the buy column. However, two things on my mind, if something is very easy to get - is it really worth it? Second, the bid is actually at .0000 instead of .0001 (event though it says it is .0001).
Hip, one other thing that is different today than other days...if SFOR is being massively diluted - there are now more trades in the buy column than in the sell column - it has ALWAYS been the other way around.
Sounds like you think it is pure dilution - which very well could be the case? The .0001's are being bough like crazy so I was wondering if it could be the opposite. Right now, I think it is purely dilution...today is much different than other days from the respect of how fast trading started, the volume, and that the ASK didn't pop back to .0002.
Several tickers have no bid and it has been reported. Not sure about SFOR's own situation with the large trading so quickly this morning - maybe SFOR is supposed to be at no bid unlike the others that were reported. Not sure!
I'm not trying to mislead or provide any false information. Some people feel that SFOR doesn't have a chance, BUT WAIT, SFOR has been able to proceed in court and their cases HAVE NOT been dismissed. They have made it to full discovery which is past the second phase. The judges MUST see validity in SFOR's claims (WhiteSky, PhoneFactor, and Authentify) or they would have dismissed them already. Therefore, that is good for SFOR - and proves the judges feel there is substance behind SFOR's claims.
The "SFOR needs cash, huge dilution, and billions of shares is last month's and the month's before news"...we all know it. Anyone that doesn't like it - sell. It is that simple.
Has anyone heard how the Telcom Council/Deep Dive event went for SFOR?
The link below discusses the situation regarding Sentinel Insurance vs. StrikeForce and the litigation between StrikeForce and Authentify.
http://www.law360.com/articles/503475
I see it only took 2 1/2 months for the Sentinel vs. StrikeForce case to conclude. But with StrikeForce vs. Authentify...Judge Irenas denied Authentify's motion to dismiss that suit on Jan. 16.
Some people want to know why SFOR hasn't sued other companies that they feel have infringed SFOR patents? I'm sure the boys at SFOR want to, but I'm VERY CERTAIN Blank Rome wants to get the win in the case law books in both the PhoneFactor and Authentify cases FIRST. If it is done that way FIRST, it is hard to beat favorable past cases/case law. A win against both will grab national attention in a hurry for SFOR and strengthen the ego and worth of the attorney from Blank Rome.
Keep at them SFOR and Blank Rome!
Wow...if SFOR holds on long enough and can proceed favorably against Authentify/prove their patent is invalid, AND beat PhoneFactor (which is also looking to go in SFOR's favor) - it would no doubt put SFOR at the top of owning patents and it would be the end of dilution because the company would instantly bring in new investors and shareholders - the company would NEVER see these low share prices ever again because it wouldn't be the same company as it is today sitting at .0001 and .0002. Hang on SFOR!!!
I think Scottrade is competitive (not saying it is the cheapest). I frequently trade anywhere from 2 million to 9 million shares at a time...the commissions I pay are usually $9.00 for under $5 million shares and roughly $15.00 after that. Not too bad.
Your "average" is .0001 which is by far lower than most shareholders of SFOR. Right now, people are starting to panic some...with panic, there is opportunity for some. If you sell your .0001's they will be gladly snapped up by some happy shareholder(s). Good luck on your decision!
You must have bought in at .0001 and sold at .0001 in order to get out with a loss of just commission fees..is that the case?
Anyone hear anything from Kay about how the Telecom Council went?
Welcome...wish the price per share was higher too.
Definitely not going against what you are saying, but do you have any info about SFOR wanting to Sentinel to fund the defence? Someone a few months back had some info about it (not sure if it was you), but if you have anything regarding it, please send it out/my way. Thanks!
Yes, Authentify sued Phone Factor and won. Regarding your correspondence with HipHop about Sentinel Insurance...I'm quite sure that SFOR wanted (and felt) Sentinel should help them in court against the Authentify lawsuit (which Authentify initially claimed a suit against SFOR). SFOR has since countered and claims Authentify's patent is not valid. It appeared to me a while back Sentinel felt they didn't need to go to court to defend SFOR. Now, it has been determined by a judge that Sentinel doesn't have to help defend SFOR. What is next? When litigating, you get EVERYTHING to help you case that you can, and now that Sentinel is out, SFOR moves forward with what they have. It is my understanding that SFOR feels Authentify's patent is not valid (hence, in SFOR's eyes, how could they infringe an invalid patent? SFOR will be moving forward!
This has happened before/not long ago with SFOR...I spoke to a rep at Scottrade and they said that it must be institutional trade or a prearranged trade for a certain price under .0001.
Not true, they could have sold 200,000,000+ shares day after day lately and they didn't...about 1,000,000 at .0001 the past few days and I got none of those shares. Wanting to buy more, but not getting them at .0001 recently. Could it happen? Sure, it is because there is no room to trade between 1's and 2's...so it has to hit 1's some - market makers will also do what it takes to make their profits.
Found out, someone has asked and is waiting for answers. I'm not too freaked out about Shape Security product (yet might I say) because it might not do everything needed - doesn't sound like it is currently covering mobile products...I'm going to keep cool about it - maybe the Shape product will cost too much for some smaller/mid-sized operations, etc. If/when I hear anything, I or the other person will post it.
Great question to ask Kay.
Thanks for sharing this. Interesting! It sounds like a botwall product. Any techies out there that want to comment on the differences/capabilities of SFOR products vs. this product from Shape (shapesecurity.com)? Thanks!
I'm buying .0001's...anyone that isn't happy - I will take them! Thanks!
SFOR claimed in their 2013 Review/2014 Sneak Peak announcement that they have several branded companies that are interested in their mobile product and each of them could get a few million units. My disclaimer: this is from memory and might be a little different than actually said in the review/sneak peak...it can be read under the Mobile Products section on SFOR's website.
SFOR cannot tank today because the markets are closed today. Good one!
As I'm typing this message, its contents are being protected by GuardedID...I didn't buy it from Kmart, it was purchased from StrikeForce...a real product and a real company. Mobile products are working and will be available soon.
The primary difference as to why I was long at .01 and STILL is that I don't own any shares anywhere close to .01. I sold off on the way down/took some small losses, but now own more shares than I ever did. My average is now at .000135. I got in on the first round of .0001's to help lower it. I missed the boat yesterday on the .0001's and I would have averaged .000125 had I got in. I am not immune to R/S or B/K just like everyone else, but I feel my average is very much tolerable to the risk and potential upside. No memory loss here!
Maybe you should call the SFOR office and tell the boys at the SFOR office not to go to California next week. What is going on in California next week? Rumor has it, Kay is one of four speakers in the presence of over 100 telecom execs and investment execs. Mobile products will be shown there because they are WORKING! Prior to going to California, SFOR has been in discussions with some private funding...it is each person's choice to believe if any funding will occur or not (same thing with Blank Rome's efforts).
Private funding for SFOR, then win with WhiteSky, Mobile Product sales, sales of other products, then a win against the bank and Phone Factor, more sales, and more lawsuits = SFOR will go up! Over night, no to be fair.
I might add, to be fair again, there could be a R/S in there, but SFOR will still go up! Don't believe it - sell at .0001 then.
I have watched some heavily diluted companies go up a lot more than 4x and climb higher...SFOR will do the same one day!
When you visited the SFOR office, who did you talk to and what did they have to say? Thanks!
I guess if a person has an average around .0001 the risk isn't very bad then. Let's remember, people have the choice to bail out if they aren't happy with SFOR. It's a sub penny stock not a NYSE play. If people expect the stability, then they should move their dough over to companies like GM, Johnson & Johnson, etc.
The boys at SFOR shook the "sell tree" today - probably for plane tickets, lodging, and meals for next week's Telecom Conference in California. Let's rock there!!!
Here's an idea...I can say (upfront) FOR SURE some people will not like it and others might. It is ONLY an idea...
Disclaimer: ***Approval from SFOR would be needed for exact content.
Here's the concept: All longs send an email out to everyone in their email address book/list with something like the following approved message...
STRIKEFORCE TECHNOLOGIES INC. could be the best investment you could ever make. StrikeForce Technologies (ticker SFOR) is the world's leading provider of Out-of-Band Authentication, Keystroke Encryption, and Mobile Security. StrikeForce has several key patented products to help increase revenue as data breaches have become very common over the past year. The need for StrikeForce's products have been sold to entities in healthcare, legal, insurance, banking, government, and with consumers. SFOR is (currently) a riskier investment, but future events and increased demand for StrikeForce products could significantly increase your investment. As of 01/14/2014 you could have purchased 1 million shares for $200. Consider an investment in Strikeforce Technologies (SFOR) through a broker or an online brokerage account.
I think Kay is only going to give us which phases the lawsuits are in and/or say they are going well or not. He is providing common shareholders less and less info. According to the latest info/PR, WhiteSky is in the discovery phase and they think trial could be in 2014. The PhoneFactor case seems to be going in SFOR's favor too and that is in the discovery phase as well. The Authentify case is the most complex and the battle is still on with that. Overall, we likely won't hear any specific info about these such as exact timelines, money, etc.
T23, THAT'S RIGHT, THE NEED HAS JUST STARTED TO COME INTO FRUITION - I THINK PEOPLE FORGET THAT. WE WILL SEE MORE AND MORE BREACHES EACH MONTH. BREACHES ON MOBILE DEVICES IS WHERE THE THIEVES WILL BE TARGETING THE MOST AS TIME GOES ON. I'm GLAD SFOR DIDN'T START THE COMPANY 2-3 YEARS AGO...THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE AND READY TO MARKET ANYTHING IF THEY HAD. COULD SFOR DONE THINGS DIFFERENTLY, YES THEY COULD HAVE. FAST FORWARD TO NOW, THE MARKET IS GETTING CAUGHT UP...SFOR HAS PAID THE PRICE, AND NOW IT IS TIME TO REBUILD. GLAD THEY HAVE THE PATENTS AND BLANK ROME WORKING WITH THEM.
Don't have to wait much longer to see them. Also, looking forward to SFOR's announcement (the content) that SFOR's Mobile Products are available...not too much longer of a wait!
It will be interesting to see if SFOR gets the funding they have been talking about. If they do (soon), it could help until the next positive thing that brings in money to SFOR's bank account (which could be money from Mobile/SDK, etc. Then after that, WhiteSky and some sales, then after that...???
There are less promising, less transparent, and non-reporting companies that are trading higher per share. At .0001 and and .0002 SFOR is a pretty good value! Is it worth a dime, not right now, but decently priced for future potential.
My read on this "dip" was that one market maker signaled to take it down to load. Another responded. Looks like they can buy under .0001.
Who all did you meet there?
Definitely not knocking what you did at all! In fact, very - very few common shareholders have shares at .0001. You will one day be rewarded for buying at .0002 - no doubt in my mind. Just at a new juncture to see what tactics market makers and/or SFOR is up to. As of a couple of days ago, things have changed...the cards with MM's and SFOR are not on the table yet.
Not being a negative nelly, but some of those that front loaded at .0001 are also happy selling at .0002 for a 100% gain. Not saying this isn't the time to load - it could be, but being cautious here too! The MM's might bring it back down to 1 and repeat their selling at .0002 again.