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Just read today's filings... 18th of November.
NEUKOMM FRANK R - 11/12/2008 Acquired 3,116,883 shares to put him at 27,409,995 shares.
http://www.pinksheets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=6257793
FARR ROBERT C - 11/12/2008 Acquired 3,116,883 shares to put him at 15,188,113 shares.
http://www.pinksheets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=6257782
Explanation of Responses: 1. $0.00385
now where are my .004's?..... lol
no i didn't... i'm just on the round number, no rush.. looking for some .004s now.. i don't know if anybody else here got below .005.. they traded though so someone did.
I just decided .005 and below was a good time to slowly start picking a few up. .005, .004, .003, .002 and .001.. one of those fills will be pretty much bottom and whether they fill all those orders over time or turn it tomorrow, I'm happy. Hopefully they fill them all before turning it though.. lol.. GL
Keep em coming... I'll take some at .004 if you don't mind... ;)
Orders in at .003, .002 and .001 aswell... so bring it... lol
I got time...
thanks for posting the information leole... Did you tell Qiang Ma that he has signed off on most of the CJGH documentation and according to the Secretary of State of Nevada he is the acting President, Secretary and Treasurer? lol.. wow. not sure if he would approve all of that considering he's saying CJGH is lying and has no links with Wuxi Steel Ball.
SEC Investor Complaint Form
https://tts.sec.gov/acts-ics/do/complaint
It's just crazy how these guys can make so much money off these shell scams and never have to face any consequences.. I mean how many millions of dollars of stock could you have sold from $5 down to $.005...
Guys made a fortune..
IMO, O/S is well over 100 million now and was ever since they needed to up the A/S to 500 million.. If this stock had a news release and volume poured in, we could probably have a 50M share day... lol.. that's why there probably won't be any news...
ARSC gets its 1st patent tomorrow on one of the original fuel cell designs...
"...Hydra Fuel Cell Corporation (www.hydrafuelcell.com), a wholly owned subsidiary of American Security Resources Corporation (OTCBB:ARSC), announced today that it has been notified by the U.S. Patent Office that its first patent will be issued on or about November 4, 2008, and is expected to carry US Patent No. 7,445,647..."
Pretty solid company thats had several hundred percent moves at least once a year... Many things currently on the go behind the scenes. The Ibox has a lot of helpful information.. Check it out or message "lowman" the moderator... He probably knows more about the company than anyone else on here.
Global Crisis? This is the real crisis!
http://www.boncherry.com/blog/2008/10/26/global-crisis-this-is-the-real-crisis/
"If you think that the current economic crisis is something that has never happened in history before, you may be wrong! After the collapse of the agriculture sector in Zimbabwe in 2000, the inflation in that country skyrocketed to 231 million percent a year! Just think about it - 231 000 000%! Unemployment went up to 80% and a third of country’s population left it."
"This guy is going to a supermarket. The exchange rate is 25 million Zimbabwe dollars for 1 US dollar"
$100 Billion Dollars for 3 eggs
Just wanted to quickly post a chart to show imo how the price is being manipulated and kept down by GG until they are ready to convert and run it again. Since their conversion rate is directly tied to the share price, it is in their best interests to keep pushing the stock down as much as possible so they can request conversion at the lowest couple of trading days before any run happens. The further they push it down, the more shares they get... just how it works. and thats fine, just have to slowly scale in to a position at or near what you feel is the bottom.. nobody will catch the absolute bottom, but you can get any quantity you want thanks to these guys... maybe pick up some .006s, when they take it to .005 pick up some of those, .004 even more, etc.. it will run again imo and thats what im doing... but you have to be able to buy it and forget about it, if you watch it day to day you will drive yourself nuts and is too torturous. so imo, if you like the stock, believe they will have another pump or PR campaign and that its not dead and done which it obviously isn't. then you have to look for areas you like and start accumulating.. buy low sell high right?, well we're pretty low in this range imo... & once it starts running, people will be chasing and won't get the amount of stock they desire.
this is in my opinion what is happening here and so i made a very rough, quick sketch using the 20 SMA to illustrate one of many technical indicators they are using as a guide to not let the stock go above and breakout. last time we nicely broke above the 20SMA, we ran from .015 - .085... some news from the company would definately help aswell in breaking out of the downtrend. but i'm in no rush, id like to pick up some .001s if possible.. 10 bagger at a penny?... please.. again, you'd have to believe that it would trade over a penny again in order to accumulate down here and i 100% believe it will go multi-penny again at some point in the future... will it happen today or tomorrow? maybe not.. but will it happen, imo yes.. and i won't have to chase... but i will add and help it up making it even harder for the chasers when the time comes..
to be as basic as possible, just follow the purple line and see what happens last time we broke above, and how hard they are trying to keep us below with massive selling any time we approach it..
dilution yes, every public company dilutes or they wouldn't have gone public.. but whatever they're not even selling the units yet, so where else would the money come from.
all i know is that if i was CEO, had inside info and was picking up the .oo6's and .oo7's like Frank has been and using up my own cold hard cash, it would be for one of two reasons..
1). if i did not believe there would be that many more shares brought to the market to take it down much further.
2). he's buying back shares at a lower cost than what has ever been sold to finance guys by the company.
either way, when someone spends their own money buying up the company they are CEO of with the information they have, they're doing it because they can see value at that price. he's not buying the .006's, knowing they will have to sell shares at .0006. jmho.
if he knew the company was going to have sell another block of shares to keep going thus depressing the price even further, do you not think he would wait for those to hit the market at the lower prices before picking them up?
I picked up some .005's today aswell..
lol.. what a joke that was... got out of hand and lasted waaay too long...
lay off the selling boyz...
"...I think if we can absord around $100,000 worth of stock, we'll be able to avoid another big push downward..."
LOL... go for it... 100k says that won't be enough...
You would be writing a letter to the transfer agent then...
Transfer Agent:
Global Sentry Equity Transfer Inc.
92 Lakeshore Blvd. Unit 220
Mississauga Ontario, Canada L5G 4S2
President - QIANG MA
Address 1: 92 LAKESHORE ROAD EAST, SUITE 220 Address 2:
City: MISSISSAUGA State: ON
Zip Code: L5G 4S2 Country: CA
Director - EDWIN SOLANO
Address 1: 92 LAKESHORE ROAD EAST, SUITE 220 Address 2:
City: MISSISSAUGA State: ON
Zip Code: L5G 4S2 Country: CA
yea it ran on anticipation of news, just like this most recent little pop...
yep, she said no imminent news and doesn't look like they are going to be announcing the Q... yaay...
Contact:
China Jiangsu Golden Horse
Investor Relations Contact:
Tel: 1-866-365-4724
Website: http://www.goldenhorsesteel.com
Email: info@goldenhorsesteel.com
"...I am getting an update on Monday and if there are any newsworthy events, a press release will be issued..."
sounds good.. I don't think they would be giving Karen an update after 3.5 months of waiting if it was just fluff or there was nothing newsworthy to announce.. If that was the case there would be no need to update her, now would there? Looking for a nice surprise early next week. go CJGH.
sorry about that... i meant 36M and change... was a long day yesterday... lol
If the company was going to issue shares, they would have to do so through the transfer agent and therefore they would be the first to know... The T/A says the o/s is 38M and change...
.0045 x .005
picked up some shares earlier today that weren't represented as fills on the tape.. never had that before.. anyone know what it means or why that happens?
bring on those .001's...
So how many are gunna buy the "supposed" whole 38M when this thing hits .001? 38k? cmon.
LOL...
Frikkin Chinamen.... Rinsed us all...
Ahhh.. what yah gunna do..
Even if they had the most amazing news you could ever ask for, there are so many people looking to get out... Nobody is going to buy this price up as they can see the history here and there will be massive selling.. confidence = rinsed
Still just wondering how they are f'ing with the T/A though... Wonder what happened to that bigmouth wannabe lawyer on here.. Maybe he can do something... LOL
What a joke this has become though.. LOL.. oh man.. bring it on. It has just gotten funny now.. I want to see a 100M+ volume day with the O/S still at 38M according to the T/A whose charging $30 for that info.. lmfao..
posting a chart here just to show my boy something...
yea, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if all of us combined already own more than the 38M shares which is supposed to be our O/S? I hate seeing share counts on boards and thats not what I'm suggesting but it would be funny if there were 50 or so 1M+ share holders on this board... lol
as for the anti-takeover system that your suggesting, usually they will issue themselves preferred shares for that... they're not going to waste their hard scammed money to buyback the commons even if they could get them all for trip 0's, which they probably couldn't, they'll just reverse split it and get them back for free..
AH bid and asks don't mean anything.. market makers are closing for the day, so they drop off the box.. only the open orders remain which is why you see JEFF .001 x .17... him and VERT are the only ones still open... tomorrow morning before we open, ABLE, NITE, HDSN, DOMS, UBSS, HILL, ETRD, etc.. and all the rest of them will re-open and will fill in that gap.. we're really .005 x .006 right now.
lol...
this things so anorexic it's just not even funny... you could breathe on your l2 and send this puppy to the moon..
but it's not ready just yet... + I want to get some more cheapies.. trip 0 would be nice.. haha
imo, smart money knows what they should be doing. not sure who painted the penny, but let them bring the thing down some more.. if they want to give it away, I'll take some and tuck it away for awhile..
check that spread.... 67%....
.006 x .01
cmon boyz, start rippin into the bid... lol
Do you still like this company Lowman?
They've extended a deadline and that's obviously frustrating to say the least, but they definately still seem to be alive, well and getting their ducks aligned..
From last weeks PR:
"We have begun the production process and expect to have commercial units to ship before yearend. We have a $21,000,000 purchase order backlog."
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/081001/20081001005156.html?.v=1
Now I'm sure some roll their eyes when seeing that after the previous deadline they put out was extended to end of year, but these prices at fractions of a penny are just to hard for me to pass up and I don't think people should be throwing in the towel just yet.. imo, there will still be a few more nice runs like the ones we have witnessed in the past to have some good trades off and these are the times to be nibbling.. Could be wrong. Time will tell..
But i know I;ve been starting to reload again here below .0075 and am pretty confident there will be some more nice moves to the upside in time... Hopefully they drop it down lower though, wouldn't mind picking them up even cheaper..
GL 2 All involved here..
LOL...
This guy Resker SEEMS decent enough though... Just have to get some more answers. No way a guy in his position gets involved with some Chinese pink-sheet penny stock dump... Has to be more to it, and unfortunately for me I'm a complete retard and I just can't put two and two together this time round just yet..
same guy?...
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"Marian P. Sumner, Heritage Conservancy Vice President, Planning & Implementation, presents the group’s Community Leadership Award to Warren County Freeholder Director John DiMaio, Freeholder Richard D. Gardner, and county Department of Land Preservation Administrator Robert Resker for the County’s efforts to preserve the Musconetcong River Corridor."
http://www.co.warren.nj.us/wn/06-11-2008A.html
seems to be your "old guy in the middle"...
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yea, i wouldn't think he's a scam either but getting in touch with him would be key.. He's not listed there for no reason, and forsurely knows these china mans..
But, regardless if he is still a director or not, he is still on the hook for 2 years after the fact and would more than likely know what's going on and care about 'monkey business'. + i'm sure he wouldn't be f'ing around in some penny scam.. but who really knows. I think he's too old for that though and more than likely gives a sh*t about his reputation and has that old-skool mentality.
He would be able to give you a big piece to this puzzle.. Get in touch with him.. Or get me his number. This guy will either put a stop to this for his own best interests if its a scam or will let us know what the deal is at the very least. 100% imo.. This been goin on for too long now.. Let's tank this thing or lets find out what the deal is and get it runnin, cuz its going one way or the other, BUT lets get it over with. Right now, nobody really knows forsure whats up.. Its all speculation and the T/A is still saying 36,442,990 O/S.
I don't know how old that site is, but he's not in their directory anymore when you phone, so I'm not sure if he still works there...
"Robert Resker Mayor (908) 852-5132 X 10"
http://www.allamuchynj.org/allamuchy_township.asp
Strange to see a mayor wrapped up with all the liabilities of being on the BOD of a pinksheet penny stock.. Especially one acting as strange as this one has been.
This story just keeps getting better and better.
CJGH INSIDERS ON BOARD OF DIRECTORS*
Name (Connections) Board Relationships Title Age
Clifford Postelnik 3 Relationships Chief Executive Officer, Vice President, Secretary, General Counsel and Director 62
Qiang Ma 3 Relationships President and Director --
Other Board Members on Board of Directors*
Name (Connections) Board Relationships Primary Company Age
Guoxiang Ma 12 Relationships China Jiangsu Golden Horse Steel Ball, Inc. 45
Robert Resker 3 Relationships China Jiangsu Golden Horse Steel Ball, Inc. 68
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/people/board.asp?symbol=CJGH.PK
Has anyone ever been in a stock where the T/A was being given the wrong information by the company? I have not and am pretty sure it's a very serious no-no... Just doesn't make sense that our 10d average volume is +6.5M with the T/A charging people $30 to tell them the o/s is a fraction over 36M...
Rolling shares to the downside maybe to force sellers from high pennies?
Is it possible the selling is in advance of recieving the 20M restricted, or maybe they got the legend lifted prematurely, etc.. etc..?
This one is pretty interesting to say the least. Someone is either working this one hard for the mother of all runs, or someone is going to get in some serious trouble.
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There have been gaps in the news of 3+ months with this company before. Without throwing another date out there to give false expectations, but going by the last PR being on Jul 9th, you'd assume they still have until next week to put out some press and not be breaking any records of silence in their books... From Feb 12th to May 14th
"China Jiangsu Golden Horse Steel Ball Comments on Its Industry
Marketwire(Wed, May 14)"
"China Jiangsu Golden Horse Steel Announces Common Share Reduction Marketwire(Tue, Feb 12)"
Hopefully they just saving up their news as we all know there are numerous things they could be commenting on.. and they'll give us a nice PR campaign to bring some momentum back in this puppy and send her flying... Doubt this thing is done and is going straight to zero just yet.. who knows though.
lookin pretty good over here today....
Lehman in New Talks to Sell Assets to Barclays
Lehman in New Talks to Sell Assets to Barclays
By Jeffrey McCracken, Matthew Karnitschnig, Carrick Mollenkamp and Susanne Craig
Word Count: 517 | Companies Featured in This Article: Lehman Brothers Holdings
Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. Monday night was negotiating a last-minute plan to sell large portions of itself to Barclays PLC, the U.K. bank that has been circling the U.S. investment house. Barclays Americas Chairman Archibald Cox Jr. was leading the talks, and an agreement is hoped to be reached by Tuesday, said a person involved in the talks.
Lehman's top executives were huddled at the bank's Manhattan headquarters trying to craft a plan that would preserve many Lehman jobs and operations, say people briefed on the discussions.
A deal wasn't certain, and many questions remain. Chief among them: The fate ...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122149661255536931.html?mod=yahoo_hs&ru=yahoo
KDB Still Interested in Lehman Takeover
09-15-2008 17:36
By Oh Young-jin, Kim Jae-kyung
Staff Reporters
The Korea Development Bank (KDB) is still interested in Lehman Brothers, depending on how the U.S. government deals with the Chapter 11 bankruptcy filed by Wall Street's fourth largest investment bank. Korean firms invested $720 million in Lehman, according to the Financial Services Commission.
``The bank is still interested in Lehman's franchises,' a source who was involved in aborted negotiations between the two banks told The Korea Times, Monday.
The source said the franchises KDB are interested in include its global network as well as investment banking at its headquarters.
``It all depends on how the U.S. government deals with this,' the source said, referring to the Korean government's treatment of KDB's handling of LG Card.
As with Chapter 11 cases, the court goes for liquidation by freezing liabilities and selling assets, removing talent off the payroll of the company in question.
``In LG Card's case, the KDB took it over and nurtured it back to health before selling it to Shinhan Bank,' the source said. ``At issue is whether the U.S. government is willing to do the same thing.'
The source, however, cast doubt about Washington's willingness to do so, citing separate authorities between the executive and legislative branches.
KDB had talked with Lehman's top executives but the possible deal fell apart when they failed to respond positively to the Korean bank's offer that amounted to one third of the worth of its ``good company,' according to the source. He didn't name the exact amount of the KDB offer.
However, the source explained that Lehman's ``good' assets, if its distressed ones were taken out, would amount to $30 billion.
The source said that buying Lehman could be a leg up in the growth of Korea's investment banking abilities, and that KDB CEO, Min Euoo-sung was not disappointed with the way his offer to other Korean banks was rejected. `` Min took it as something that was inevitable for banks that were not sure of the uncertainty shrouding the bank,' he said.
Lehman was heading for the court for bankruptcy after negotiations with KDB as well as Barclays fell apart ahead of the weekend.
Reports said the U.S. government was not willing to step in to backstop Lehman's bailout, in the same style as it did with Bears Sterns, the No. 5 investment bank on Wall Street earlier this year. The U.S. government is also saddled with its recent rescue of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, two mortgage firms that are backed by the federal government
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/09/123_31052.html