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you have to remember with alexa, we are ranked in the top .001% and we only have 12,000 members, they need most of them to go to the site for it to keep that kind of rank. if one day 12,000 go and the next 7,000 go it drops fast. either way the top 100,000 is still in the top 1% dont put to much weight into it.
dont click on banner ads, they work fine, if you click on them they cost money. just trust something once in your life. why do so many doubt we have ads on yahoo when 50 people said we did. man some people wont believe anything unless they see it.
a greek god
Ranzy do you have nothing better to do that look for every possible provider and start rumors? is this stock that bad, that we are left to do that?
nothing like a good rumor, thats all we need here, like the ones in june was it, comcast and the other carriers that havent happened. everyone bothered the crap out of the operators. turns out we are not even in talks with them. maybe after the hundreds of cant wait a second investors started bothering customer service about the channel they said they dont want it.
I didnt figure that we would be shipping from here, but here we are talking about the launch of the web site in january, and I havent heard a word about inventory or distribution centers.
the ads on the business channel will be nice
where will they get the distribution centers and inventory for the uk? do they plan on sending it out from the usa? wont that cause quite a lag in service?
its fine to post link of banner ads but lets not all be going there to click on them, that costs us money, some costs money everytime the page shows up from the link and some coast money when you click the banner ad, we trust they are where you say and we trust they link to the site. lets not waste money
all just my opinion
I just got the email for yesterdays pr, just a bit behind. I also recently bought in, I look forward to seeing the latest q report, best of luck.
sure they all run a few times a year. Ive been trading this one, buy at 5 sell at 6 buy at 4 sell at 5, Ive been waiting to buy at 3 for almost 2 weeks, no fill yet. I only sell invesment I keep the profit shares.
Tina when was the last one? and they have put out plenty of pr's with no move in price. about new carriers, people they have taken on at the network, and those havent changed the pps. the last real move was months ago, it has only slowly dropped since. when is the last time it traded at .0007
only the usa carrier news or real revs will drive this and hold it. and 17 million shares today is nuts, many of us hold more than that.
Im not worried, Im still green at .0003, time will tell
either that or many are losing interest in playing the waiting game. no news they put out ever moves this.
and maybe thats not even the correct address for that, but there has to be a customer service address, something to get to them.
Jethro and ALL OTHERS, you should not only spend time writing about it here but write an email like this to the company. I think many have a "problem" and only bring it here, when the first place to bring it is to the company. I wrote to invrel@gameznflix.com this morning, they got back to me within a few hours. they need to know about all issues, not just us
itrade have you ever tried gzfx service?
sad day of volume, less than $6500 bucks worth traded, hope it gets better soon
I started watching this one at .06 now its almost .02, where will it stop? the q report is coming soon, are we expected good or bad? is this drop all from dilution?
so many said we didnt have a stop in seattle just because it wasnt on the site. here we are parked right next to the stadium for a monday night game. its hard to tell the "crowds" around the gameznflix bus, but whats not hard to tell is that we had a huge billboard with gzfx plastered all over it for the thousands of fans to see... they could hardly miss it... its all about exposure and we sure got it there. way to go guys, dont let the rain stop you.
I wrote gzfx about the speed of the banner ads, if you have seen them the info on them flies by. Very hard to see what they are offering. If they dont have to be this fast it would be nice to see them slowed down. They responded within 2 hours of me sending the request, saying they would look into it and consider my suggestion. Came from the vp of something in TN
sentinel, I never said it would be the sole marketing tactic, I never said it wouldnt be one of many. I asked what would be the best marketing tool, today and in the future.
It was a simple question, looking for a simple answer about marketing. and no one got it right.
there is no doubt word of mouth will out perform any commercial. there is no doubt word of mouth is the most cost effective. I never said gzfx should or will only use one form.
Just because your idea cost a lot also doesnt make it the most effective. but if your answering the question your saying tv has and always will be the best source of marketing. reread the question if you need to. I never said it wouldnt cost something to start word of mouth. once its started it is very effective and cost little to continue it for years.
you dont believe the bus can pull off such a thing. let me ask you if they have a spike in subs in the 4th quarter, will you be willing to give credit to the bus tour???? or will you only give credit to ads and cc stores? you seemed convinced the bus wont and cant work. so I doubt you would give them success for subs that come from it.
just think they will talk to thousands at the stops and millions will see the bus as it drives thousands of miles across country, as it sits at a gas station, as it is parked at restruants, and on and on. It going through many of the major cities in the usa. if they could get 10,000 subs from this tour, coming from those that sign on the spot and those that got the info from the traveling bilboard.... dont you think that 10,000 could easily turn into 100,000 and keep going, basically getting the word of mouth started
and what is the cost of the bus tour? I hear they are leasing it, they are paying 3 guys for 3+ months.... what like 20k each? they are giving out t-shirts and 15,000, plus gas and xtras. they might be spending 150,000 on the tour? I would say that would be a cheap price to get a nice word of mouth campaign going
now all of this is based off our opinions and hypothetical prices, as you or I dont know the true costs. but I think it could be a good marketing tool. time will tell.
I never said steps wouldnt need to be taken to get the word of mouth off the ground. I said in the end it would be our best tool and the cheapest. it would be ongoing for years if the company doesnt let its subs down. it ihe best tool we currently have and will have in the future, if you deny that you need to learn more about marketing.
fact was I was looking for a simple answer about marketing and no one provided one.
all just my opinion
from the wall street journal.
"Talk may be cheap, but it can be incredibly valuable to companies and their reputations.
For the first time in its seven-years of studying corporate reputation, Harris Interactive Inc. analyzed the effect of word-of-mouth communication and found that it strongly influences reputation and people's plans to buy a company's products. The survey of the American public shows that word-of-mouth -- comments from friends, family members, co-workers and others -- carries much more weight than corporate advertising and public relations.
About 85% of survey respondents said word-of-mouth communication is credible, compared with 70% for advertising and PR. About three-quarters rated media stories about a company as credible, and 84% found the opinions of company employees believable. Only personal experience with a company scored higher than word-of-mouth, with 92% of people calling it credible."
"Talk may be cheap, but it can be incredibly valuable to companies and their reputations"
"analyzed the effect of word-of-mouth communication and found that it strongly influences reputation and people's plans to buy a company's products"
"The survey of the American public shows that word-of-mouth -- comments from friends, family members, co-workers and others -- carries much more weight than corporate advertising and public relations"
does that say much more than corporate ads???
so it seems word of mouth is the most powerful tool in marketing, unless the 7 year study is wrong. google found a way to create a giant with its gmail for free and no marketing, thats means other companies should be able to do the same, or at little cost and little marketing.
bottom line its the best form of marketing for a company like ours, now we just need someone smart enough to get the initial word out at a low cost. and maybe just maybe some of the consultants are helping with that area of marketing. of coarse thats speculation.
all just my opinion
"Gmail - Google did no marketing, they spent no money. They created scarcity by giving out Gmail accounts only to a handful of "power users." Other users who aspired to be like these power users "lusted" for a Gmail account and this manifested itself in their bidding for Gmail invites on eBay. Demand was created by limited supply; the cachet of having a Gmail account caused the word of mouth, rather than any marketing activities by Google."
so gmail did no marketing but basically used word of mouth. boy google is fairly smart. NO MONEY spent, and now its huge, imagine that.
it can be done and it can be huge if you know how to go about it. word of mouth is extremely powerful and cost next to nothing, if you know how to use it. you cant tell me only gmail could be done like this, other companies can think of ways to do the same.
sentinel this shows you know nothing about marketing. it also shows you will shoot down anything I say. anyone who knows anything about marekting will agree with me.
what would a professionally done world class superbowl commercial cost? 2-3 million? what would the return be? would this be a good decision for gzfx?
initial exposure leads to word of mouth, but word of mouth quickly takes over as your most cost effective and powerful marketing tool.
it is the most important tool they do have or will have. this hold true right down to the smallest business or service.
feel free to call someone who knows and ask them.
this is from wikipedia "Word-of-Mouth Marketing, or WOMM, is a term used in the marketing and advertising industry to describe activities that companies undertake to generate personal recommendations as well as referrals for brand names, products and services.
Word-of-mouth promotion is highly valued by advertisers. It is believed that this form of communication has valuable source credibility. Research points to individuals being more inclined to believe WOMM than more formal forms of promotion methods because the receiver of word-of-mouth referrals may believe that the communicator is unlikely to have an ulterior motive (ie.: they are not receiving an incentive for their referrals.) Also people tend to believe people who they know. In order to promote and manage word-of-mouth communications, marketers use publicity techniques as well as viral marketing methods to achieve desired behavioral response. Influencer marketing is increasingly used to seed WOMM, by targetting key individuals that have authority and a high number of personal connections.
A very successful word-of-mouth promotion creates buzz. Buzz generates a highly intense and interactive form of word-of-mouth referral that occurs both online and offline. Successful word-of-mouth initiatives do not follow a strictly linear process with information flowing from one individual to another rather successful models leverage subgroup connectivity and relationships by pursuing a Reed's Law hub approach to message distribution. A marketer has successfully created buzz when the interactions are so intense that the information moves in a matrix pattern rather than a linear one. The result is everyone is talking about or purchase the product or service."
the matrix pattern, 10 becomes 100 becomes 1000 becomes 10,000 becomes 100,000..... only 4 levels deep 10 peole became 100,000
do you think they are getting to atleast 10 people at a tour stop?
oh well shoot me down some more, after all I dont have a clue, all just my opinion
ANSWER to the question I posted about marketing. I gave it enough time for many posters to read and have a chance to respond. I see that not one of you stuck your neck out enough to even give an answer. Yet many of you will gladly step up and give your opinion on how gzfx markets. Here was your chance to tell us the best marketing. And with all the people basically claiming to know so much about marekting by being so able to cut others practices I figured this would be a simple answer.
Here was the question. “what is the best marketing gzfx has, or might have in the future? what is the best form of marketing to you? if you could have it what form would you choose?”
Simple question, simple answer. The BEST marketing gzfx has or will have, and the best form of marketing is…….. “word of mouth”
There is no doubt, word of mouth is by far the best marketing tool we could ever have. Just think of how many products/companies/services each of us has used from word of mouth. Think of how many things you never heard of or where to scared to try but did after “word of mouth” Think of how many companies/services you WON’T use unless you have “word of mouth” reference. But hear a reference from someone you know and then you use it. I cant count have many new things I have tried because of word of mouth, how many movies I have seen because of this, how many restaurants I have tried because of this, and products and services I have used because of this. Word of mouth is especially important in a ground floor company trying to make a name.
Word of mouth is extremely important and powerful. Word of mouth can also hurt you very bad if you don’t do things the right way. You can have many tv commercials, but the potential customer doesn’t know if the product is good, but word of mouth tells them so. AFTER ALL word of mouth is almost always coming from someone you trust. Also word of mouth almost always goes to the audience your looking for, your friends usually don’t tell you about something that they don’t think your interested in. they usually target people that they think would want to hear about it. ALSO it turns into NETWORK marketing, you try a product it treats you very well, you tell 10 people, if they do the same, suddenly 110 people know about this only 2 levels of separation below the original person. 110 turns into 100,000 fast at that rate.
Now think of the cost. What does it cost you to have someone on the street telling people about your product? Bascally nothing? So whats the cost to return ratio? The best tv commercials in the world couldn’t beat that. 1000 people could hear about you without ever seeing your company advertised.
Word of mouth is where its at, its vital to most companies. It costs basically nothing, it can kill you or take you to the moon, so it is very powerful.
Just goes to show, many think you are “experts” on marketing. But no one could shout out such a simple answer to such a simple question. Ok now tell me Im wrong
no parameters no budgets, no restrictions
QUESTION,and I look forward to the answers. since many of you seem to know so much about marketing. so much that you can judge results before they are even there to see. since you can judge ideas before they happen. I have a questions for all of you that judge the marketing of gzfx.
what is the best marketing gzfx has, or might have in the future? what is the best form of marketing to you? if you could have it what form would you choose?
thanks for the answers.
itrade like I said, i think they have 3 people working it. now if they had a larger crowd with many asking questions and many trying to sign up, would it be best to help these people or having a person holding a camera so they can impress us? I know what one I would rather have. one person is on the mic, conducting the games, so that leaves two people to help any crowds, but you want that to go down to one person so the other can shoot footage, footage of business they are about to loose if someone doesnt help them with questions but instead run the camera
and again, you cant just judge the tour from the crowds, this thing is getting 10x the looks driving down that road than it is stiing for 5 hours. you have to take that into account
I dont believe the majority of online ads came until october, so how do you explain the spike in subs in september, its a simple questions, whats your answer?
day, you claim, ineffective, lack of crowds, MOSTLY poor venues, confusing dates, changing schedules.
now hoe can you say mostly poor venues, jet ski, boston, and the air show all had a lot of people in the area. 3 stops at the midnight gaming, 3 football games, 10 mcdonalds.... probably part of the deal. they also had radio stations at multiple stops, dont you think the radio station may have said on air we where there? that is only looking at the first 23 stops, I would say well over half of those stops where decent venues. mcdonalds has tons of people going in and out per hour. but that doesnt show well on video because they are not all there at once.
you dont have substantial evidence the bus tour isnt effective, unless you judge something off a 45 second video. but I wouldnt call that substantial. and how do you factor in the traveling billboard? you cant tell me that doesnt get thousands of eyes per day.
its hard to judge the results of any marketing being that they have marketing in many different areas.
some will assume the bus is working, some will assume it isnt. but the subs did grow quite a bit in spetember, the month the bus went out. coincidence? maybe, maybe not.
itrade just because you and other "think" its a bad idea doesnt mean it is. a good friend of mine works for a publishing company in marketing. i told him of this idea (the bus) he thought it was good, he as well as I like the face to face contact. also liking the traveling billboard. this traveling billboard had been to many major cities in the last few months.
now from the quarter report, we had 9300 subs on average for the 3 months, but 11800 to end the quarter. now simple math will tell you the only way to average 9300 and end with 11800 is to have the last month be a very good month. I would say they added over 2000 people in september, if you factor in churn it was probably closer to 3,000 people. now what would cause such a high jump? is it just coincidence that the bus tour started that month?
they are handing out tons of t-shirts, dont you think others will ask about what is on the shirt, what its about?
as far as crowds in the pictures, no doubt some podcasts have shown many more that others. but think about it, they show about 1 minute of footage over a 5-6 hour stop. they have, 3 workers? Im sure one cant be running the camera every time they have a few more people, they are not there to impress investors they are there to sell the program. Im sure the last thing they can do when they have a nig crowd is try to film, that is probably when they need all hands on selling as the one person runs the gaming part.
some dates have gone off schedule, on a 20 some stop national tour you cant expect it all to go off perfect, they have made most. I think only one or two have been problems. I heard they where to set up monday in seattle close to the stadium, then again it rained hard all day and wouldnt expect them to have set up.
I would much rather judge the tour off the results of september other than 30 second per stop of video footage. yes I am making an assumption those september subs came from the bus tour, as you are making an assumption that they didnt have big crowds and its a failure.
you cant expect a big crowd at mc donalds at one time, but over a 6 hour stretch you could expect a few hundred people to show up.
i like the bus idea, I like the face to face, I like the traveling billboard, and I dont think its just a coincidence the subs went up a lot after the tour started, yes some stops have done better than others, that is expected. there are many different ways to market, you cant just do one or the other, they have internet ads, some billboards, the bus tour, in the cc flyer, some tv commercials in certain areas, and on other items and events.
you probably didnt agree with the bus fom the start, what is your reason for the sharp spike in subs for the month of september?
fact is if I pass that bus I cant help but read the outside, and thats good advertising. I personally dont click on internet ads, Im on a site to be on that site, not to go to another
all just my opinion
sentinel for starters most have said they are not in the stock, and many wont say either way when you ask them, if the answer is yes, just say yes. as for positive posters saying the same thing over and over, its true, many times its in response to a negative poster. either way positive or negative all those posts get us nowhere.
so I dont have proof they are wrong they dont have proof they are right, so lets spend the day making assumptions.
as far as the future built on the past, hmmmm. some companies turn the corner, make a difference to change the future. in the past, last year, this company was not ready to market, didnt really market, wasnt ready to handle many subs, had under 5k subs and 150k revs. had fewer distribution centers and inventory. SO to base its future success off that wouldnt really make sense in my opinion.
my dad and I had a poor relationship growing up. when I was 30 we sat down and had a heart to heart. he admitted he wasnt a good father, but he couldnt change the past. but he could change the future. but if I only remembered the past I wouldnt have given him a chance, if I wanted to focus on the past I wouldnt have made any headway. some people can change, when they are ready to change. so I dont totally believe in the future built on the past, in certain terms.
you can see changes in this company, to the good, that cant be denied. maybe they dont measure up to your expectations, but they have changed and continue to do so. just because I see the future and can forgive the past doesnt mean I have my head in the sand
and Im not desperate about anything, if I lose all I have in here I wont lose any sleep. this is play money. fun money. why should anyone invest anything else in the otc/pinks. its a high risk gamble that I see the odds improving.
all just my opinion
netflix users have told me the same, perfect service at first then it slows way down, like they make sure and treat you right at first so you stay and then they slow your service down
I recently went to blockbuster and it may be for the last time, I rented 3 movies at a cost of 11.50, the store is ten minutes away so I have to make a trip there and back twice, so thats about 4 dollars in gas. so those movies cost me 15.50 or $5.16 each, then they had to be back in 2 or 3 days, so I was under a time restrain to make sure and watch then and get them back. unlike online rental. also I do believe games are more to rent, like 5 bucks each. also they didnt have the moives i wanted so i took some second choices.
bottom line is land rental and online rental each have problems, online has turn around times and waiting for selection, but does cost less and no late fees. land stores still have inventory issues. but for some reason people expect online to be perfect, when if they think about it you realize all the problems from your local store. there has been multiple times I was charged late fees on one movie and not the other when both where brought back before the deadline. many time bb has been out of titles, some for months when its an older movie with only a copy or two.
the problem I see is that day after day we have posters talking negative. they say the same things over and over again, like we did not know it. they use fact but at the same time they make up assumption, those being... the bus tour isnt producing, and is a waste.... you have no proof. that our spending wasnt done in a wise manner.... no proof, and no proof it wasnt spent last quarter for current ideas. constantly saying JF doesnt know what he is doing, when you really dont know what he is doing. Like you could all run a start up business just perfect. saying only investors drive the web site traffic, when you have no proof. constantly bringing up the past, like the past can change...and the list goes on and on.... these things then get under others skin, because they do believe in what is currently going on and then these people fire back at those posters.
after all its someone who is actually invested and mostly likely red talking to someone with no investment who is just here to cut down the company. and why on earth would you waste valuable time here to cut down a company your not in.
so after the people who think this is going somewhere get sick of all th negative posters they fire back, and this goes back and forth day after day, then the positive posters use facts and some assumptions. either way all these posts get us nowhere
personally I plan on backing off, because most of talking to these posters is a waste of time, I will never change my opinion off something they say, and they will never change off something I say, we all have agendas, but atleast I have money in the company, unlike most of the ones that just bash but dont own. those people amaze me. so do the ones that cant stop complaining but wont sell.
oh well, time will tell who is right or wrong. all just my opinion
I would imagine they pr that, I think its to launch around the 20th. but i dont see big news coming, IF, and i mean IF they are talks with target, walmart, etc. do you really think they would release that news now, at the start of the holiday season, knowing it would be almost impossible to get in those stores before the holidays. for starters those are total rumors that they are in talks, and maybe they where in talks and it didnt work out. either way I dont see they trying to get in any of those stores before the end of the year.
all just my opinion
on inventory, what happens at blockbuster? they are out of movies and games all the time. they get them in more often because you cant keep them forever. just because this is an online service doesnt mean they wont be out of movies or games, also online is not first come first serve like the land store. when a new game comes out you may be 50th in line to get it, should they have 50+ copies of each? that would seem a bit overboard. and the problem is people can keep it as long as they want. so between taking forever to get them back and being in a long waiting line to get them, it may be awhile before you see them
you cant expect them to get an endless inventory, blockbuster will have 40 copies of some movies and still be out, and I live in a small city, only difference is I know it will be there most likely in the next 2 or 3 days. online doesnt work like this, but yet people expect it to. when a brand new movie comes out and many want to see it, you better expect to wait. they might buy 50 copies and you might be number 200 in line to get it. and if half those people keep that movie for 2 weeks you might really be waiting awhile.
for some reason people expect this service to be faster, you could only expect that if they had unlimited inventory to send out.
all just my opinion
sentinel why is it ok for you to comment about his posts, but I cant do the same about your, your post about his post was not about the company you where defending him in what he MIGHT have ment in his previous post. it had nothing to do with the company. yet I post about your post and get deleted because Im not on topic, this will be getting reported to matt and simple. your not playing fair
itrade you want pictures with crowds watch the podcasts, plenty of stops had crowds, and remember those are about 1 minute of film footage for about 6 or 7 hours of being set up, so its not fair to judge how many people went off a few minutes, over a few hours. one pic I saw of waynes at one of the mcdonalds, had about 10 people in it, and before you say big deal, that picture was taken in a split second, it doenst come close to representing the total people there over 4 or 5 hours.
but I know no matter what you will put a negative spin on it, your good at that, heck your trying to buy back in. I would want the price lower as well
all just my opinion
ahh itrade, so you dont hold, but waiting to buy back. but while you do you make sure and point out the negatives and stress them over and over. trying to drive the price down? I see you failed to answer my simple question. if your not invested and you think everything is so bad, why waste your time here with 100 other otc plays out there. I mean of all your free posts mosts are here. you could be wasting your time on 1000's of other stocks, must be a good reason you sit here.
all just my opinion
sentinel what does that have to do with alexa rankings? no I didnt say 40 million people have the tool bar, I said there are 40 million web sites. EACH has equal chance to have people go to it.
about 10 million have alexa tool bar, but that doesnt mean they can only go to certain sights.
so there are 40 million sites, and 10 million users than can go to any of then, and those people choose to go to yahoo more than any other site, ranking it number 1
I think 10 million people using alexa is plenty to do a study on and get accurate measurements. 10 million people have 40 million web sites to choose from and they choose gzfx over 99% of the other sites on the web.
personally I dont have alexa toolbar, and dont know many investors that do.
itrade you want to talk about web stats, gzfx has been on the top 50,000 on alexa for awhile now, over 40,000,000 web sites are out there. so we rank in the top .001% and have for a long time. not bad for a small company. but I suppose you will say investors are the only reason it is so high. if you have ever built web sites yourself and tried to optimize it then you might realize just how hard it is to get them ranked so high. its impressive for a company with 12,000 or so users.
ihub ranks in the top 4,500 on alexa and has a heck of a lot more users than gzfx, so there are only 36k sites between ihub and gzfx, not that many considering 40 million other have the chance to get there.
either way we are in the top .001% not many can say that
all just my opinion
itrade you have no idea what it was spent on but choose to assume it was spent in a negative way. you dont even know what time of the quarter it was spent, it may have been near the end for ideas they are working on that we havent seen yet.
you know almost all your posts are against the companies past present and future. you dont seem to like much of anything they have done or are doing, it leads to me to ask to honest questions, that I dont believe you will answer
why do you continue to hold in something that you dont believe in and have such a negative view towards.
if you dont hold why do you waste your valuable time here cutting down a company you have no interest in.
with the 1000's of otc plays out there, I cant fathom why someone with so much against the company would insist on staying here. show the company you dont agree with them by selling, if you even hold any in the first place.
i will look forward to the answer of one of those 2 honest questions. just my opinion