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More pumpy bs. Vplm has no location other than a shyster with a laptop sitting in a booth in his pizza shop. Get a grip
I searched for that recent and far more detailed account of the case, which I could've sworn I saw posted herd in the last day or 2 but I can't find it. I don't remember there being any reason why it would've be removed, so I dint know why I can't find it. It appeared to be a very detailed court doc. Hate when this happens.
Oops....just noticed that you posted that same orig link from Bloomberg that can't be found reported anywhere else. I'll look for that more detailed account posted recently.
It's accurate. It was reported here when it took place about a month or 2 ago. I was somewhat skeptical at 1st because only Bloomberg reported it and no one else anywhere. And I learned long ago how inaccurate Bloomberg can be, sometimes years behind the facts, but a couple days ago, someone here posted all the case particulars so it appears for real. Whether or not it goes anywhere is another story. There's a fairly sizeable group of insiders and their supporters, who have made lots of money from the scheme and so it's in many's best interest to keep the ATM open. Those on the take include some from the sec as well, IMHO.
And isn't it ironic that the vast majority of both your posts has been to complain!
That is truly priceless....
Whereas I'm not complaining at all.........lolol
I suggest you get up off a few shares and take the money and buy yourself a set of hipboots cuz everytime you open your mouth you get yourself deeper in the bullshit.
Thank goodness you don't dictate what decisions others make. It's just you hallucinating that you can... You're truly bad judge of character as well as reality because I have done well not only with pennystocks but also with a couple big board stocks. The best I did with pennystocks, in fact pretty much the only pennystock I did well with was with vplm. I've never once breached the red from my initial investment in 2008/9. I quit buying vplm long ago and as it turned out, good thing I did.
Stating that pennystocks is lol, "too much for me to handle"......is so far off base it doesn't even make any sense. You're very good at that so far.
I did well and love the entertainment value you provide on the msg board. Square biz!
Clutch move.......and right on porpoise, lol
Like I said, and you don't heed, every name you call means that's what you actually are yourself. Sounds like it'll take you so long to learn that truth, that you might not even be around that long. Oh well, easy come easy go.
No, I'm no fraud. And I'm not wrong that you do not gain or lose anything until you buy or sell. If you don't get that one, you're in for some deep doodoo...
I love this place... Anymore of you deep thoughts?
Lol. Within about 10 seconds of me saying "you best get on the sell quick" and me saying it's gonna fall like a rock, I looked up and saw it falling like a rock and thought to myself, that must be Orca...
The other truth about namecallers, besides they have no real ammo so they fire blanks.....is that in ALL cases, they ARE the embodiment of the names they call.
You ain't up NO PERCENT unless you sell. Lolol
Just like namecallers....those who have to quote others instead of using their own words, are just firing blanks.
I said that
See, I told ya Orca.... I bet my call and prediction for an avg price of between 2 and 2.5 cents is close to still within this temp (from all the peeps who haven't yet learned the boy who cried wolf syndrome, so the get easily excited about very little) little spike. Of course, it'll fall like rock as it always does, especially if the Emu crew keep selling. You best get on the sell quick...
The funny part is it's YOU who are whining, not me. I have nothing to whine about. Thanks for the laff
The funny part is it's YOU who are whining, not. I have nothing to whine about. Thanks for the laff
The only ride is the one you're being taken for...
And if you don't like my opinions and think only you are entitled to yours I suggest you figure out the apparently difficult task of how the iggy button works.
Enjoy your ride....
"In addition to HUDNELL’S favorable outcome statement......."
But not single word about the massive selling of by him and his wife (presumably) and the joke of a stock price or the anger and frustration and loss of money it's caused. What a phoney baloney. And in all likelyhood, this current boost just over 2 cents, which is nothing to write home about and is only back to where it was for months on end, will fall flat on its face. That, based on the historical fact that it ALWAYS does. If it continues to rise, which I doubt, I hope it helps a few get back above water. I would count on it though.
Your video link worked. Thanx. A strange thing I noticed. At the end of their narrative about vplm is where the "not compensated“ statement is seen, however normally you see this in the disclaimers of these newsletters, but there is no mention whatsoever in their disclaimer, to confirm or deny. I find that strange.
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I forgot to mention that when I tried the link in the orig post, I couldn't get it to work. I'll try your link but if it's another one of lord Emu's videos, I'm changing the channel immed. He has given me way more than enough solid reasons to not trust anything he says. But thanks for the link. I'll check. By the way, speaking of the "boy who cried wolf syndrome".......did you notice the array of very positive news from yest and today, in terms of the positive rulings posted about and see the VERY meager, non commensurate rise in price followed by it doing what it always does....falling right back today? I mean it was really important good news (that is, within the realm of the patents being all that, which I don't subscribe to..) and it should have shot waaay up, but this stock is so close to toast on several levels (dangerously close to subpenny...then comes delisting back to pink...in 2nd decade of trying to win some monetary award...significant numbers of shareholders exiting...the anger and frustration and loss of trust due to the kazillions of insider share sales which is decimating the pps, etc etc etc.
I should ask you the same question I've been asking for a long time that none can or will answer...
If.....you had the bucks, right now, would you purchase the patents suite?
You're correct and I did see that but pumps are not always compensated for but still work for the newsletter and thats exactly what it was, a pump for the newsletter. Of course many of these newsletter can't be trusted or believed when they say they weren't compensated. There is very little honesty in the cutthroat pennystocks world.
Apparently you're just another of the group who thinks you have more right to be here with your pro vplm stance, than those who feel otherwise. That's human nature for you... As to vplm "killing it as a stock"......you've GOT to be kidding, but I know you aren't, so no point in discussing it. Most rational and market savvy peeps would not and do not characterize a stock in vplm condition, as a stock that's killing it. Maybe you're looking at the charts upside down and maybe you consider a ceo who was convicted of breach of fiduciary duty and unjust personal enrichment, by a jury of his peers as "killin it".......and maybe the fact that CEO and wifey are selling so many shares so fast, at a time when there is all this optimism and surety that things are in the best position ever, to the point that price keeps falling and falling and he is being sued for insider trading by a group of shareholders.....is "killin it".......or that never seeing any success in 26 yrs is "killin it"..........or that all the lies and unfulfilled promises in so many PRs over the years is part of "killin it".........but ironically, you're absolutely right!...............that lord Emu of eGipped, along with his wife, and many of the BOD and the supporting cabal..........have indeed been KILLING vplm. Yes I'm aware that some of the court rulings are positive looking for vplm, but apparently you haven't seen enough monkey wrenches thrown in the mix yet. There will be many more to come and I'd be pretty surprised if the price gets pushed very far up.
And yet ANOTHER nothing burger, lolol. A fluffernutter sandwich. Pocket lint wrapped in dust, blowin the wind.
AN OBVIOUS PUMPfrom some newsletter
It was 100% an appropriate question and an appropriate analogy as well, what with the way it got worse and worse over time, affecting more and more going underwater. I decide what I think is appropriate to say, not you. If you don't feel it was appropriate for you, get over it...
Oooh, just noticed vplm touched the 12s today. Gettin thin...
So many things vplm has said, done, not done, have made no sense, but even more nonsensical than that, when msg board goers who ought to know the difference between sense and nonsense when it's pointed out to them, choose instead to stick up for ea other, often kissing A, and allowing themselves to be hugely biased instead of fair and balanced. That's ok tho as it's to be expected on such otc, less than 2 cent, romper room spectacles of a stock.
It's just like politics, honest forthright opinions breed contempt in an environment such as this where with the help and encouragement of administration, anything goes. It's same as the old wild west. And so it goes....
If vplm/digiphony-ca had been truthful about spending better part of $20 mil on creation of patents.......and.......been truthful about the test results of purported worldwide nodal testing........and........been truthful about the value and foundational aspects of the core patents.......then...........any truly reasonable person, knowing that vplm had been, for approx the previous 10 yrs, a voip service provider with a so called, alleged voip service platform...........would, upon finding out about the upcoming acquisition of the patent suite (applications and 1 patent), been absolutely overjoyed and super anxious to know vplm's stated promise to integrate the technology, into their already existing voip platform........and would have no reason not to believe the statements by vplm PRs, that doing so would immediately begin to increase their subscriber base by millions and start bringing in from tens to hundreds of millions of dollars in royalty revenues, as well as bringing the company to the absolute forefront of voip services providers, to be the king of the hill. This is what the PRs pounded out quite often for over 2 yrs that it took to finalize the acquisition (even tho almost every single PR put out during that over 2 year period, continually claimed the deal was done and final, beginning in late 2010 or at the latest, early 2011 and continuing with that BS until the deal was truly done in the end of December 2013). So it was more like 3 yrs of that BS, blatantly lying PRs, mostly put out by Chang, who has been reaping the benefits ever since and to this day. All the rest of the BOD, which was taken over by DIGI, as well as the orig vplm peeps, have since left, some quite mysteriously or by strange circumstances...
Point is, IF all that slung crap was TRUE back then.....then the acquisition and integration would've been a match made in heaven and that's exactly what they wanted all to believe so they could garner a huge new base of shareholders and buying of shares. And everyone here bought it all, hook, line and sinker. You couldn't ask for a better set of developments for a voip service provider...
So the stage was set... Personally, I had bought into vplm long before all that but when I heard about the patents, I was so excited and the whole thing held great promise for me. I should have known better as I had already spent 5 yrs with another can't miss, highly touted, seemingly well supported play with TIV, who eventually blew all minds by being shut down by the sec after a 50 yr operation and a highly respected and beloved ceo. Fines, jail, bans, etc.
It was a major learning process for me, fairly new to buying and selling stocks. But still I got hooked by the bs vplm STORY because it was so well told and I was already involved in the technical world and knew about voip and knew it was going places.
So as the price kept rising after my 2 cent entry, I kept buying and buying and buying, same as many did and still do. But when they threw the ENTIRE SCRIPT OUT THE WINDOW AND UNDER THE BUS, I knew something was very wrong. But no one else seemed to even give it a 2nd thought. Instead, EVERYONE HERE.....almost to a person.....was completely convinced that the company or the patents would be sell for a great deal of money, very soon.......esp. with the continuing lies from the company that deals were on the table and doors were being beat down by S&P and fortune 500 companies. Vplm LAID THE BULLSHIT ON AS THICK AS THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH IT and they have a long history of being able to slide on any and all bs they chose to sling, to this day.
Lord Emu was well versed and well practiced and very smart, by this time on how to put a very intricate and sophisticated personal enrichment scheme that worked and continues work to this day. Ironically, he even was found guilty a couple yrs back, of rogue personal enrichment as well as breaching his fiduciary duty, by a jury of his peers, and so to, the rest of the BOD was found. But he was at the top of the list.
The main point here is if vplm patents were ALL they were cracked up to be, vplm would have had every reason to stick with the plan. But for no good reason, and no fore announcement, no voting, no warning, no apparent rhyme or reason THEY RENEGED on vplm and on all of us and have been reaping the benefits ever since, in the face of and against all their loyal shareholders. And now, after collecting 40% of everything for years, are now selling bazillion of shares as fast as they can unload them, killing the pps and gaining them many millions of bucks at shareholders expense while the beliebers still belieb and praise and support them.......well, not as much as before, eh?
Oh yeah, there's some BIG SURPRISES coming down the pike allright...lol.
For some... I only wish I could see their faces when the monkey wrenches hit them on the head... For others, I just feel a little sorry for them. That's my opinion.
Did I hear right that virnetx just had their half billion award reversed? How long has that deal been going on?...... 11 or 12 yrs now? Guaranteed the litigations with vplm will be going on for longer that that and the shareholders will likely never see anything but a big loss. Approx 3 and a half yrs ago, I posted here that this will go on for another 10 yrs. Ea year I have reiterated it as another year goes by. Most recently I said it would be yet about 6.5 more yrs. I should say that's a very conservative prediction. In all likelihood and all things considered, it will go on much longer than that. I know some of the core patents will expire before that time frame but that shouldn't matter so long as the litigation starting points precede the expiration dates. Not a scintilla of doubt in my mind the trials and appeals will go on seemingly forever, unless of course, the SEC steps in and put a stop to this or when the insiders have sold all the shares they have to sell, then vplm files BK.
As far as the latest greatest promise of ship coming in or at least starting to, this February, and a real serious rise in price occurs, commensurate with all the billions and billions and more billions the company has touted for damages, et al, I don't see it happening for all the reasons I previously have delineated. And for the same set of reasons, I expect more monkey wrenches come 2/14 or sooner. And blame lord Emu of eGIPPed, for perpetration of so much consternation, frustration, confusion and general tumult, by purposely failing once again in his fiduciary duty to keep the shareholders informed. He and wifey have shown an awful lot of disrespect to the shareholders. Same as saying FU to their major concerns.
Vplm......the covid 19 of pennystocks.......... how many have died waiting?
"endless hope"......very good description. Not a bad thing, per se, but unfortunate.
Oh, and if you meant married to msg board.......you're damn right as it's so funny and entertaining. That would be the top reason, the entertainment is addictive... not that you're much of a contributor in that regard. But I love f...ing with the know it alls who think they do... and the pseudo intellectuals, who think they are and all the adults who act to like children, bitching, hollering, complaining, insulting, namecalling and hating and all the while trying to say that others are crazy. They convince no one of anything. They are mere narcissists. Yes, it's funny, entertaining to no end and yes, it allowed me to cut the cord. Now, you might say I'm easily amused. Ok, so what? Reading the illusory superiority the same guys constantly sling here is not only damn good entertainment but also helps one keep their feet firmly planted. It's like one flew over the cuckoos nest. My thanks
If you knew what you were talking about, maybe you'd be dangerous, but I doubt that too... Married? Married to what? I'm not married to anything. I made money years ago with vplm and I also decided to never buy vplm again because I came to distrust the operation. I didn't need to sell all my stock to get in the black with vplm. I also never once went into the red with my initial investment into a bunch of different stocks in 2008/9. So I did well for being a total novice, in spite of some loser stocks. And since I'm way ahead with vplm and the pps is way below my avg cost for them, I'd rather use them for wallpaper than sell them for a loss, even tho I'm locked into the black in perpetuity. So if they ever go to 50 cents, fine...
and I'll sell....maybe.....but it's not gonna happen so oh well. I've already mentally written them off. I'd rather burn em if no 50c. If I trashed them right now, I'd still be ahead, so they can kiss my ass. If you think that's being married, your powers of discernment need a tuneup...
Best of luck...
"then that is the definition of insider trading, which is illegal"
Stated wrong. Insider trading is not illegal as you put it. So illegal trading on inside info does not define "insider trading". Also, it's kinda silly to say it's hard to believe anyone to be that careless, when there have been countless cases of illegal insider trading procecuted by the SEC over the years, not to mention all the cases they never procecuted for 1 reason or another, such as SEC corruption. The point is it happens almost daily so apparently there ARE many careless operators...
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There are numerous ones but perhaps the most important question unable to be answered (unable and/or unwilling) by the pro vplm side, is the one that asks, how can it be that not a single voip service provider on the planet (within the purview of the patents) has not become froggy and leapt up to buy the patents or at least license or settle, in all these years? The silly non answer of "cuz it's cheaper to steal and use them", is so off the mark and wholly inadequate, as to barely merit mention, nevertheless been used many times. Ignorant, that is.
It's so simple to understand....
I'm as positive as can be that never in history has there never ever been a product with the value assigned to it by its owners and developers (vplm and digifonica, respectively) such as that of vplm's patent suite, especially when looked at thru the lens of its various revenue producing capabilites and attributes, ie infringement, selling, licensing, settlements, offsetting competition, stock sales, etc etc etc. In addition to above, when applied to both the named and as yet unnamed alleged infringers and in the use of the damages models that vplm published years ago and which were updated from eatlier models and probably need get further monetary updating........well.......all of that happens to easily equate to a possible and potential, but very realistic, upward of a trillion dollars, all things considered and of course, depending on just how much effort an owner of the patent wishes to and is prepared to apply.
The above established, and it has definitely been so, also never has there been a product of anything even approaching the above attributes, value wise, to be on the market or on the table, fully available for purchase.......and no voip service providers or big investors, who could see a good thing, has ever left said such immensely valuable product unbought, unlicensed or unsettled for, since all voip service providers have been clearly identified by vplm as infringers.
There is also the so far unnoted attribute of the tremendous power associated with the ownership and total control of one of the most important and popular instruments of communications, ever developed. It means that more than likely, such power over Internet communications, as well as total elimination of all competition, would eventually result in whoever became the owners, to wind up having to be broken up like ma bell was, for monopoly laws.
To all this must be added, that regardless of stealing and use of the patents in an infringement manner, can never be intelligent viewed as a cheaper and easier way to deal..........because.........very simply..........eventually, whoever is or becomes an owner, is most likely to sue for infringement sooner or later and that would result in humongous damage awards, which would not be a very fiduciary thing for potential infringers to do if they had much in the way of intelligent decision making.
So from all this, it becomes obvious, at least to me, but not limited to me, that it SIMPLY MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER, for the vplm patents to be left for years and years.......unpurchased, unlicensed and unsettled (with the possible exception of the recent purported settlement(s), of which there so far seems to be no evidence of nor of any value to the shareholders.
Conclusion: they all know full well that there is no threat to them at all and no infringement exists.
How many times over the years, have many of the same ppl, come on here stating that it'll all be over very soon, with vplm cleaning up?
That..............is just 1 more of a spate of questions that the super duper positive true longs simply cannot and will not EVER answer.... They wouldn't DARE.
It gives me such a warm and fuzzy feeling. Haha.......because it just helps connect the dots! They're most likely right about the explosion coming soon over the next few months.........which will leave smoking craters in their minds they'd like to blow away, as the final truth is revealed............................................................................or not.
Here's more ridiculousness that shareholders are asked to swallow... Oh man...
Hudnell is supposed to be this super lawyer...but I find it extremely fishy that:
On his website front page, he lists his top accomplishments. 4 out of the top 5 are listed as vplm accomplishments... So that is his main claim to fame.....that in the years since he came on board, he has managed to see the pps go down HOW MUCH?? I'll have to do some research on that to see just how much it fell on his watch.
His #1 listed accomplishment is he get a favorable settlement from Amazon for vplm. That is even tho there is no evidence of any settlement so far and has only caused the price drop CONSIDERABLY since the alleged settlement... And while it's good enough for a "super lawyer" to list this as his numero uno accomplishment of his career, it's apparently not good in terms of a material event to be be noted, as required, within around 4 days, in the form of an 8k.......AND/OR...........the 3rd quarter 10k even tho the announcement of the settlement 1st came on 5/2 and even if you add the 45 days for finalization, that's still only mid June, while the 3rd quarter report was on 8/16 or thereabouts. And again, price dropped ever since his NUMBER 1 LISTED (by himself) career accomplishment... Something seems very OFF there to me. It reminds me of djt constantly touting that he was the best prez of all time.
The other 3 accomplishments of the 4 out of top 5 are all claiming he was responsible for a bunch of IPR favorable decisions. To me, that's a load of crap because the patents were valid to begin with DUE TO THE UNMATCHED WISDOM, EXPERTISE AND PROFESSIONALISM of the USPTO, then the various challenges to the patents and the PTAB, who never have a negative decision on a whole slew of challenges to the patents ever since ol Tom Sawyer threatened them with Federal RICO charges, having sent the letters to the potus, the scotus, and all of congress, and governors. But not only that (and that's a pretty damn big "that"), the challengers
FAILED to bring forth any valid challenges to validity, therefore, vplm gained nothing they didn't already have.....ON THEIR OWN ALREADY PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED MERITS. So, in other words, vplm's patents DEFENDED THEMSELVES SIMPLY BY THE VERY NATURE OF THERE ALREADY EXISTING VALIDITIES!!! So they didn't even need hudnell as the patents defended themselves upon THEIR OWN RIGHT.
Did I mention that since hudnell came on board, the price has tanked and all we get is phantom settlement and zero benefit. Yay Hudnell....way to go man!
Being only a "desktop Dr.", you should have patience, not patients...
I don't know what your vplm price point is, but whatever it is, it's somewhere between
.005 and .45 and I doubt it is at those extremes so just for the sake of conversation, let's say it's about a nickel, since that's much higher than the avg pps. So 5 to 10x is 25 to 50 cents. So what that tells me is you obviously don't believe the vplm assessments of many many billions of dollars. You must see that as total bullshit. Since you see the assessments from vplm as total bullshit, then it follows that you realize vplm is a big bullshitting machine. And since it follows that vplm is a big bullshitting machine, then there's no reason to believe them about how great and necessary and foundational the patents are. Thus buying more and more is akin to donating your money for the lord Emu of eGipped go fund me page or having it direct deposited into their personal ATM. Please don't get me wrong.....I've no desire to put words in your mouth or twist what you said. Just following along and connecting the dots.
You can lead a horse to water.........but it'll never buy the patents
didhejustsaythat
Agree... you can create as many wash sales as you want during the course of year. No such thing as "can't buy back“. Not that simple...
Instead of the suggested reverse split, I think they're gonna do an "mc" (convert price to Mexican.....pesos)
jez sayin...
I remote viewed the future price of vplm..... Can't tell ya...
(sung to the tune: "let's bet $2000" I've got the email", lolol)
waytoofreakinfunny
It's so amusing how the "smart guys" have this all figured out, you know, all the behind the scene stuff and legal and comparisons to other patent plays, etc etc......what I'd give to see their faces when the reality finally becomes undeniable to them. Priceless, it would be.........and price-less it will be...
THIS JUST IN:
Friday night smackdown being replaced by vplm msg board!