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Who would be behind message board manipulation?
For a second time my Yahoo account is being messed with.
I am blocked on the IP level from: OMG MEDT ICPT BPUR GOJO CCUR FCEL CYTC AFFX ALLP AMLN ARDM BCII CALY CEPH EDSN SQNM GEB FHRX NTII ALT LSBC MDCO RTIX APPX GNVC CTIC CNCT CRXA CRY MLNM CBST CYTO STEM GNLB GILD HITK BLUD IMNR INCY INKP IPIC KOSP LJPC LGND MOGN NPRO PARS RGEN SERO SUPG VRTX CELG NEOT QSC. I am not being blocked from ORCH which is the board I post to most frequently.
Since the blocking is both selective and at the IP level, I believe it is a hedge fund or someone who has bought off an employee for the purpose of manipulation. I spoke to Yahoo management the last time my account was disrupted and they told me there were no blocks according to their records. Still, the block existed so it had to be "unofficial".
Some of the boards I am blocked from are only bookmarked and never posted to. My suspicion is that there is a specific employee involved that does not have access to the entire database.
Not to sound obtuse - but what is the "CME" symbol you are charting???
Can't find the chart you referred to..
Point taken - unfortunately with freetrade it is only e-mail, you can't phone.
Fortunately I had already made some money on the run-up so I just had to give back some of my profit.
If you're going to learn a lesson, I guess that's the way to go.
You can only wire funds in and out of Freetrade and they post the funds in a timely fashion.
No stock transfers and no phone customer service.
I may have missed something like that, it's never happened before. How common is this sort of thing?
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Dear Valued Freetrade Client:
This is not a software issue on our part, we can not update the status of your trade
without receiving the fill report from the market. While automation has made the
process of executing and receiving a report of an execution faster, the Execution
Agents have up to 3 days to report a fill on a trade. Your order was never
reflected as "Canceled", which means you were not out on the order.
Sincerely,
Client Services
Freetrade by Ameritrade
Original Message Follows:
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How can I trade an account that waits 50 minutes to show a fill?
Don't give me a form mail about my cache because the other trade showed up
immediately, as they usually do.
IT IS A SOFTWARE PROBLEM ON YOUR PART and I should not be penalized for
the extra trade.
It seems I placed a limit order for 7.94 - I did not get the fill reported so I cancelled it and replaced it with a 7.95 which was filled.
50 minutes later they reported the fill @ 7.94 and posted it to my account. I guess they are saying they are not responsible becaues the "third party" reported it late.
How the heck can a trade get lost for 50 minutes with all of this automation?
AMERITRADE - is anyone else having software problems.?
They did not post a fill to my account and I replaced the order, ended up with a double posistion and a double loss.
Fortunately I had made a bigger gain on MLNM earlier but it still bugs me. This is the first time I have tried to trade a rapidly moving stock on Freetrade and I am not impressed.
In edit - I just got this e-mail:
Dear Valued Freetrade Client:
Please note, we do not execute your orders. All orders are routed to a third party
market maker for execution. Please read the terms and conditions regarding the
execution and reporting of trades.
Sincerely,
Client Services
Freetrade by Ameritrade
Original Message Follows:
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Since I got no response from you I had to sell that 300 shares at market.
This is the first time I have ever tried to trade this account in a
rapidly moving stock and I am extremely disappointed.
You can't fill an order .28 above market 15 minutes after it was cancelled.
I was trying to buy 500 shares of MLNM @7.95-7.94 and I sold them at
market $7.66
You should credit me for any other trades and I am afraid to trade this
stock any more today because you have filled my orders so poorly.
I would be interested in your thoughts on the same chart but three year weekly. I always have to look at things in multiple time frames.
Yes, thanks. I later realized that I posted the link wrong.
Last week I got locked out of Yahoo and I believe it was related to an offensive stance I was taking against a poster who was BS'ing about the stock.
I had one other experience with a poster who had enough clout to have my posts removed immediately for "TOS" violations. I was simply posting charts and I have since posted the same sort of material without their being removed. That poster was "Roger Mangane" on the Yaho IMGN board. He was obviously a broker and appeared to scare people out of their shares. His posts and ID have since been completely wiped from that board.
Last week my ID was blocked. I created a new ID and after a few posts that was blocked. A third ID was blocked so I assumed there was a domain level block. I created a fourth ID under another domain that I control and posted on that one for a while and it was blocked. An attempt to create a fifth ID under a third domain was unsuccessful so I assumed there was a IP level block.
I sent an email complaint with the title "POSSIBLE SEC VIOLATION" and contacted someone by phone. I was told that there were NO BLOCKS showing in the system at a management level. I know that I was blocked because I had bogus ID's blocked when I was fighting against IMGN's porno boy (another story) and I know the behaviour of the page when it is blocked.
I found that a friend of mine was able to post to my ID from an ISP in CA, but I was not. The block was removed late in the day and I got a cryptic e-mail from Yahoo saying they believed the problem would not happen again.
There are those who would say this is paranoia speaking, but the lawsuit referred to on the IBCL board contends that it does happen.
Be careful out there folks, lots of sharks in the water!!!
Interesting info on lawsuit against RB and manipulators:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msgs.asp?board_id=1041&NextStart=9599&BatchSize=10
Policy is now closer to Daytek policy. I am not surprised becuase they would have lost 90% of their customers if they change Daytek to Ameritrade rules and they consolidated clearing houses recently.
Freetrade has changed their daytrading margin policy -
I can now wholeheartedly recommend it.
Or lack of asenine pseudo-religious morality in the legal system.
O.T. Check out ORCH for a good deal, MM's are dumping the traders and I expect them to make a run from here.
And wouldn't that totally SCREW all of the naked shorts? Shares would have to be redeemed at some point, woudn't they?
Why trust the charts?
Because it also shows when the herd is buying and the big guys are selling (distribution).
That was NOT the case before IBCL was halted.
That is why I only trust the charts...
Disclosure - I am long, but only an amount I can afford to loose. Prior to the SEC halt the charts looked great. I have been in and out of this stock for a few years and I know it is for real. Do your own DD but don't let an idiot with a big mouth over ride your own judgement.
Speaking of connecting the dots...
I hope both IHUB and the SEC are tracking those late night bashers. I suspect there is a common thread.
Could be patronizing, or it could be affectionate. You have to be careful when assigning emotions to posts.
Not cool ---
I don't give that kind of info to strangers.
What is the nature of the restraining order?
I also sent an e-mail to Ameritrade asking them to correct the last trade price which is now showing at .045.
I can't view a market that regularly dumps just before big positive news, enabling MM's to replenish inventory, as "random".
Sisoft will be in competition with IBCL I think in the end Tim and Jacque will learn it is better to compete than to destroy each other.
I don't see how that is possible. Either IBCL has a valid patent or they do not. If they do not then Sisoft willnot be the only one to compete with IBCL.
The plot thickens....
Payback - do you know how to read?
Keeping did not express an opinion against Tim. He did express a long standing belief in the company.
Where the heck did you get the idea that he expects Tim to be used as an example to crooked CEO's?
If false, isn't this report LIBEL?
In edit - FRAUD is a criminal term, you are right, Tim would be in jail.
I just remembered something I've read in the past.
Small newspapers with only a few reporters often print information submitted to them in PR format with little editing.
SEC needs to investigate the source of this article if no suit was in fact filed.
If this paper can't afford a reporter who is literate, I would not put much faith in its investigative prowess.
Smacks of amateur writing -
"a purported biotech firm located in Norcross, Georgia,"
Duh, they are a biotech firm, what's with "purported".
"To the contrary, the Federal Bureau of Investigation ("FBI") contacted IBCL, pursuant to its inquiry into the post September 11, 2001 anthrax mailings."
So this person has in inside line to the FBI and knows the exact nature of the meeting?
"The FBI never expressed any interest in purchasing IBCL's products."
The FBI does not purchase such products. Again, the person writing this is not a professional.
A link to the original post should be forwarded to the SEC.
Click on the thread header and "Post New Message"
The more I think about it, the fishier this thing seems. And I don't mean the company.
The 75% drop in volume on the last day of trading makes me wonder who knew this was coming?
I feel sorry for the guy the the 3.9 million shares @.1163 on 2/3. That is one of the reasons I bougt in on the dip below 9. That, the chart, and the fact that I was already somewhat familiar with the company.
Anyone know how we can get the unedited or a non-Reuters account of this SEC statement?
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=IBCL&read=4802
Above my comments on the Lycos board. Also read the post I am replying too.
With the coming change in energy technology, the Arab countries already know that the clock is ticking for their current economic system.
I think that is a likely reason for the unrest we already have in the Arab countries.
I also find it interesting that there isn't the abundance of clearance merchandise we saw last year.
Someone on the SI board posted last year that they were blowing out trial merchandise given to them by the vendors at below wholesale to bolster the bottom line. I found that believable.
This year neither HD or Lowe's has has much in end of year bargains.
I get the feeling that inventory was run much closer to the bone therefore no surplus to blow out.
At the risk of getting too metapyisical:
The problem with shorts is the generation of negative energy. The only legitimate validation for this market is the generation of capital to advance developing technology. If shorts become dominant the energy needed to drive this market becomes negative and entrepreneurism is stifled.
ISIP just changed ticker ISIS.
Testing:
TZIX - temporarily under 5. Highly held by insty's and insiders, looks like an inventory run by the MM's to me.
Insty bought 500,000 @ 5.50 in the morning just before the 2pm dump and another large buy last Friday.
If I am reading this right - 80% of the stock is insty & insider
http://biz.yahoo.com/p/t/tzix.html
What I saw yesterday and today was very little block selling. The only block that went below 5.50 yesterday was 86k at 4.60 near close, which looked like a sacrifice to keep the stock down for the day. Today at least 2/3 of the blocks were above bid and the two largest blocks were at good prices. I think they are just chasing out the riff raff so to speak...
It looks like a run down to replenish inventory for the MM's.
I was hoping for some comment on their financials as I am better at chart reading than book keeping.
These are the charts I like:
http://www.bigcharts.com/custom/datek-com/datek-rt2.asp?osymb=orch&symb=tzix&time=10dy&f...
http://www.bigcharts.com/custom/datek-com/datek-rt2.asp?osymb=tzix&symb=tzix&time=1yr&fr...
Second graph shows pattern of trading in the 4-7 range with Nov-Dec solidly within the EMA band. This may be final capitulation for this stock.
http://www.bigcharts.com/custom/datek-com/datek-rt2.asp?osymb=omg&symb=nt&time=1yr&freq=...
http://www.bigcharts.com/custom/datek-com/datek-rt2.asp?osymb=nt&symb=sepr&time=1yr&freq...
Note in the above two instances, working throught the EMA's seems to be necessary for recovery.
Please note - these are just my ideas and observations on the stock, I welcome questions about my reasoning because I still am learning.
Another note - I tried to post the actual charts and it didn't work, sorry.
If you aren't too dependant on margin amount I would suggest Freetrade/Ameritrade.
My fills have been good, commissions can't be beat, but their margin policy is very conservative and not well spelled out.
Support is only via e-mail so getting clarification is like pulling teeth.