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5x5 .0004x.0005 <font color=red>–Better Def.
Well,
Look at this chart (as of time of your question)
At the left Column, (Bids Columns), you see a list of 5
There are 5 MMs on the highest Bid of .0004
At the right Column, (Asks Columns), you see a list of 5
There are 5 MMs at the lowest Ask of .0005
My above chart is expanded. The Upper colums are only a simplified version of the lower colums, where they show the number of MM's at a give PPS shown at the left, while the lower colums shows a break-down of who the MMs ARE and what they're holding.
Putting it all together,
You get,
5x5 .0004 x .0005
(This is also for those who are too arrogant to ASK a question)
Oh and um,,,,, You’re all welcome!
>8^}
Special thanks to Adam426 and others who responded to RichTurbo
<font color=green>FFGO<font color=brown> Bashings Debunked!.
FFGO is “Clearly” standing on solid ground and are somewhat immune to the detriments of bashings..
There are some line items I'd like to address regarding the Flash of Basher's Bashing FFGO.
Admittingly, I too was once a basher, but I’ve since been reformed from being ill-informed…. >8^}….. and ill-trained..
I realize that my problem(s) with my investment choices was due to the lack of investment knowledge.
I’ve jumped into the investment arena with the wrong attitude.
–And you might say, I paid for that.
Seems like when a stock dips, certain investors go into hell rage and bash the stock.
Then when that stock rise, the same investor smiles with heavenly thoughts of that stock.
Interestingly, this happens all within the same day and in some cases, within minutes of its self. –LOL!
(Notice how all the bashings went into remission when FFGO hit .0009 this week)
Flippers took profits and sent the PPS temporally to .0004 and here comes the bashers. (Probably by those who got in @ .0005 - .0009 –LOL)
If this stock was trading at .05 it will still be bashed as a scam or whatever by those who likely purchased it at .09 - .11, while those who purchased at .0001 - .001 are busy building their 2nd home and thus creating 100’s of contracting jobs from profits they later took at .05 -LOL!.
Now, back on that point I wanted to make,
First off, With the 10's of 1000's of lawyers and other educated professionals that are also watching this stock, it amazes me to observe Bashers and the likes, who’d come in here as if they're the only ones on planet earth and beyond who have the scoop on this stock, among many others.
To make claim(s) of this stock being some kind of a scam, or for that matter, FFGO at this point in the game, is/are very big claims. IMO.
Whereas, such claims comes with many attachments and/or tentacles, which includes all the staff working with and for FFGO, all the associated or affiliate companies which FFGO claims involvements thereof, along with all THOSE staff members and THEIR affiliates, lawyers and more.
And to think that all these affiliates are blindly making deals with FFGO without their own legal entities performing independent studies of FFGO for validations before, during and after their involvements is not only insulting to their professions but to them personally as trained professionals, yet alone the institutions and accredited them for their practices.
I mean, the list is quite huge and includes a vast number of people.
When I observe how bashers and the likes, single out FFGO as their target, I cant help also observing a sever case of tunnel vision.
They’re also forgetting that FFGO is under NEW management and has demonstrated being on a road of progress ever since. This is self evident by their frequent and current SEC filings along with keeping shareholders updated.
For a pinksheet, (Typically speaking) this good follow-through of FFGO in and of its self, speaks volumes.
And regarding the bashing of FFGO’s SEC filings;
For FFGO to file with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and as often as they’ve recently done so, would actually be suicide if they were truly a scam at this point in the game. –Would they not?
Mounting complaints, to say the least, would likely raise the right market flag to shut them down. Yet even more so after getting their name known, in growing numbers, throughout the market as noted by a volume that went into the billions.
That’s a hell of a lot of eye-balling and investor interests for an stock that has been alleged as a scam… Ya- Figure?
Since FFGO filed with the SEC, they would “literally” placed themselves within the SEC's Line of sight. –would they not?
Therefore, to claim that the SEC filings of FFGO are bogus, is intellectually insulting.
I find it highly unlikely for FFGO to fake their filings with the SEC, yet alone make false claims on the filings made. Would this not be comparable to a federal crime?
Surly by NOW they’d be long since exposed and shut down. –Would they not?
To do such a thing is equivalent to attacking a heavily armed roughneck with a wet paper bag. – you’re just asking for trouble, why would they knowingly and openly place them selves in a position to be tried and convicted by their own actions, in front of a “WORLD” of witnesses?
Anyone with ½ a wit can at least see (even remotely) that FFGO has Merit and legitimacy in its claims and practices. And this is discerned by using the most basic element is human existence …..-“Common sense”
Even when observing the other hand, it’s yet still very contradictory for Bashers Bash FFGO in spite of all their “Current” SEC filing which, ironically, even the bashers made references to the existence thereof, even while bashing about how the filings wont likely occur and if so, wont likely be accurate –LOL!
Of course when bashers say this, they’re also implying that the SEC is not only operating illegally, but are some kind of mindless entity that arbitrarily validates anything in print without ever taking their eyes off the ceiling. –AND if that was the case, then the SEC wouldn’t exist, Yet alone their superiors for allowing them to operate under such practices.
YET there they are! Fully functional and known Market-Wide by millions over.
And to think that all these powerful forces, in favor of FFGO, are all to be expunged by a One-Liner comment from some basher who happens to passing through or from some disgruntled investor who failed their “DD” and now looking for something to blame.
Remember, DO YOU’RE OWN “DD”!
And By The Way, (BTW), the use of the acronym, “DD”, in the above comment does NOT mean Do your own “Dumb Down”, it mean Do your own “Due Diligence”
>8^}
All that was stated was my own opinion and should be taken lightly, if ever at all.
FFGO -MEAN <font color = green> GREEN!
DIPS are likely caused by FLIPPERS, (who got in on the .0001’s - .0003’s) but even their days are numbered as this stock continue to rise higher!
Flippers may flip, but, as the stock rises, they’ll likely be needing to adding to their profits, to get back in -LOL!
FFGO has some good days ahead!
And I think I’ll but MORE stocks (this time around) -heh!
<font color=green> WOW! MADE A PROFIT TODAY!
I Purchased 1500 shares @ .0001 and sold 1000 when it was at .0008
1500 * .0001 = 15 cents
1000 * .0008 = 80 cents
if it was 37000 shares, I could have covered that damn $29 commission -….>8^{
Oh well, I’ll buy more when it gets to $2/share.
Been watching this FFGO stock,, seems to be “moderately” inching Upwards.
Giving all flippers a chance to flip along the way.. COOL,, they’re taking their profits now!!
BUT..
THEN buy back IN at a higher PPS Later -LOL! (so much for profits) –LOL!
So let’s do the math, SELL and take profits (-commissions)
Buy -IN, Using profits + added monies to cover higher PPS + Commissions
Let’s see,, you’re back where you’ve started less (2 X Commissions) -LOL!
The only ones who are REALLY making profits are those who sold a portion of their shares and then ride the balance of shares –Going Forwards! -Until they meet their next target PPS to sell at and so on…
That’s what ya call,,, being a Smart Flipper -LOL!
Of course even that have it limits, Each time you sell, you have THAT MANY shares left to sell at higher PPS
On the other hand, if you HOLD, then you risk losing the opportunity to sell at a profit and use THAT PROFIT to buy MORE shares on the dips.
But one thing for sure FFGO is on a road to riches..
IMO, at the current rate, soon this will be out of the Sub-Pennies, then INTO the pennies then on the BB, then that happens, this will be up there with WalMart, Google, IBM and the rest of the bunch.
I believe it will then hover and pretty oscillate around THOSE PPS’es.
But the developing countries vast mineral demands, likely from the mines owned and operated by FFGO, yet alone demands from currently developed countries, FFGO may not be able to keep up! And then you add into the equation FFGO’s globally marketed Prepaid Debit (and perhaps Credit) card business, their PPS might be too high to buy for many future new comers.
One day, we way look back on THIS day and say DAYUM! To think many investors purchased this $18+ / PPS stock when it had an ASK that was about (.0001 - .0009)/PPS
Wink-Wink!
All that was stated is by own opinion and should be taken lightly, if at all..
Wink-Wink!
Vianna?,, I think I’m falling in love….
I MEAN WITH THIS STOCK!!!!
(aww hell,, there goes my account privileges)
I HAVE 1,500 SHARES!! COOL GONNA BE RICH!!!!
Just think !!! I got in when it was .0001!!!
I can’t wait to sell when this gets to $1000 PPS…
As you can see, I’m LONG and STRONG!!
=)
*Watching the PPS rise is giving me goose bumps!!
Am I dreaming? Or is this really real..
I mean like WOW!! I step away and BAM!!! The PPS done went North!!! -DAYUM!!!
CWRM. <Font color = Pink>Pending "Pink" Issues
The issue(s) with CWRM is the gap of time that ellipse between PR’s.
((Being that the mining market seems to be growing to fill the needs for developing countries..))
It’s been observed that the longer CWRM (or any pinksheet for that matter), waits to update its shareholders, the more likely said shareholders might become restless to the point of talking themselves into a paradox of doubt and despair.
However, shareholders must keep in mind that pinksheets, CWRM in this case, are in some sense, at war with the MM’s, who often seeks to profit from the pinks they beat the living “Share” out of… >8^}
These “Short-Selling” MM’s have been known to drive pink-fresh-meats into the freezers, located in the “Cellar” (.0001/pps) where they can consume them, piece by piece.
As the Pinks attempt to climb out the “Cellar Box” the MM’s stomps them back in until they’re bilked dry before “Targeting” new fresh “pink” meat(s).
Unfortunately, many investors “Do Not Know” this dirty-lil-Cellar secret battle between Pinksheet companies –VS- the MM’s and therefore often blame their losses on the pinksheet companies, followed by symbolically going into a “Ticker” bashing frenzy.
Now the said Pinksheet company is getting it from both ends.
The MM’s on one end who Short-sells have put them INTO a cellar-box Hell.
On the other end, investors who became disgruntled from their losses are bashing the “hell” out of them.
New “Would Be” investors, reading all the Lightning and thunders, become “Would Not Be” investors.
Pity on the pinksheet who are unbeknownst of themselves being “Caller Boxing” Targets by the unscrupulous MM’s
However, MM’s are afraid of Pinks who are “aware” of their actions because they know pinks, such as CWRM, can defeat them by simply “keeping their investors Updated/Informed via PR’s”. Incidentally, every time there’s a PR, there seems to be a “spike” in the Volume –“Wink-Wink” following by stock purchases –(Hint Hint),, um,,, CWRM? Um,, are you reading this??
Ironically, the more PR’s put out by a said pinksheet company, the more investors may likely add them to their “alert-ME” or “Watch-ME” list. Yet alone buy shares which ultimately triggers an “Activity Switch” in the market that says, “HAY!! PAY ATTENTION TO CWRM!!” which then likely “Increases” the Revenue they’re seeking FROM selling stocks to fund what they need to grow their business. –Wink-Wink,, um,, CRWM?? Um are you reading this?? –Wink-Wink
Wink-Wink (Rub-Rub), Wink-Blink-Blink,, aww damn,, I think I got an eyelash in my eye,, Wink-Blink!
*All that was stated was my own opinion and should be taken lightly, if at all
<font color = green> ADOT Reconsidered!!
After returning to investor class, I learned a hell of a lot about THIS Company, ADOT.
1st of all, I’d like to Denounce my comments regarding Reverse Splits. (R/S)
Although there are SOME pink sheet companies that do the R/S for no reason than to acquire selfish gains at the expense of it’s faithful investors, there are OTHER pinksheet companies that are honestly in business for growth but are victimized or attacked by a certain group of Market Movers, (MM’s), via a tactic called “Cellar Boxing” (Can read about this term here ->> http://www.minamargroup.org/Library.html ) -although lengthy, it’s a good learning tool.
Nonetheless, this explains some of the issues that can “CAUSE” or “DRIVE” a pinksheet company into dilution.. This really sucks as it can give a false impression of a given pinksheet company to it’s investors.
As I further studied the products of ADOT, I cant help to wonder why haven’t they’ve gone platinum by now..
I mean, they’re in the Flat Panel display market and as I understand it, this is a hot market right now.
And if I might add, they can manufacture these flat panel displays in many custom sizes -> http://www.adotsite.com/index.htm
I just don’t get it!!
IF the market wasn’t ready since their last PR’s (2004), I believe the market is ready for it NOW.
I have reason to believe ADOT had been a victim of “Cellar Boxing”, by the unscrupulous MM’s who feeds their Bank-Accounts off of PinkSheet companies they drive into the Cellar and then Milk them there as they struggle to get out.
This really sucks and so unfair to those honest pinksheet companies and the investors who invest in them..
I mean, ADOT is likely fighting against the MM’s to raise their PPS and the MM’s are fighting against ADOT (or pinks in general) to keep their PPS low so that they can “short-sell” them into oblivion.
This often result in many Pinksheet companies throwing in the towel (so to speak), because they’ve ran out of capital during their battle against market forces that survive by the monies they suck out of pinksheet companies.
Dont these MM's know they're ALSO causes job losses or at least contributing to it, due to the their "cellar Boxing" act which prevents the growth of businesses that likely create jobs, yet alone other ideas or ventures that may spin-off from them?
OF even causing harm to investors who may then lose money in the companies the MMs attacked?
And there goes the food on THEIR tables and so on
As I study more, I’ll expose more..
<font color = Green>WOW -FFGO heading upwards! (finally)
It really happening!!
FFGO is heading for brighter days!!
Right before our eyes!!!
Taking about Rags to Riches!
yaaaaaaawn! -Finally!!
>6^}
Seems like the constant PPS of .0001 isn't governed by FFGO after all.. (According to this so called "cellar Boxing" tactic defined here-->> http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=30931102 )
IF this is the case, then it's the MM's we should be pissed at,, NOT FFGO!!
All this time the blame fell on FFGO.... that's sad...
Seems like FFGO is at war with the MM's in getting this PPS UP while the MM's are fighting to keep it DOWN!
that sucks...
<font color= Green> TSSP NEWS OUT!!
TrendSetter Solar Products Sets Date for Annual Shareholders MeetingFont size: A | A | A11:38 AM ET 7/22/08 | BusinessWire
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TrendSetter Solar Products, Inc. (OTCPK: TSSP) announced today that it has set August 28, 2008 as the date for the Company's annual shareholders meeting. In order to qualify as a TrendSetter's shareholder and to participate in the meeting, you must own shares of TSSP by the record date of July 28, 2008. The shareholders meeting will be hosted in Eureka, California.
"According to our independent accountants, the financials should be made available late this week and are expected to be released to the public shortly after they become finalized," stated Dirk Atkinson, CEO of TrendSetter Solar Products.
TrendSetter Solar Products recently announced the appointment of Mr. Joe Silva as the company's Sales and Marketing Manager. Mr. Silva has been hired to assist the company in handling the increased demands for its products and specifically the overflow from several trade shows that the company recently attended. Mr. Silva will also be designing and implementing a new marketing strategy to improve the national awareness of TrendSetter Solar Products.
About TrendSetter Solar Products
TrendSetter Solar Products, Inc. is a quality manufacturer of solar hot water heating and storage systems in the United States. TrendSetter's solar hot water systems and storage tanks are uniquely positioned to serve the residential and commercial market. The Company offers a comprehensive range of solar water heating solutions, including solar radiant floor heating options, which are rated and qualify for the new federal energy tax credit program. A standard residential hot water heater emits approximately one and a half tons of carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide into the atmosphere. TrendSetter's solar hot water heating and storage systems are emissions free. As global warming and alternate and renewable energies become more of a concern, TrendSetter's products are one of the answers. Additional information can be seen at the Company's website www.trendsetterindustries.com.
Disclaimer: The Company relies upon Safe Harbor Laws of 1933, 1934 and 1995 for all public news releases. Statements, which are not historical facts, are forward-looking statements. The company, through its management, makes forward-looking public statements concerning its expected future operations, performance and other developments. Such forward-looking statements are necessarily estimates reflecting the company's best judgment based upon current information and involve a number of risks and uncertainties, and there can be no assurance that other factors will not affect the accuracy of such forward-looking statements. It is impossible to identify all such factors. Factors which could cause actual results to differ materially from those estimated by the company include, but are not limited to, government regulation, managing and maintaining growth, the effect of adverse publicity, litigation, competition, and other factors which may be identified from time to time in the company's public announcements.
SOURCE: TrendSetter Solar Products, Inc.
TrendSetter Solar Products, Inc. Dirk Atkinson, CEO dirkatkinson@comcast.net or e-media Direct, Inc. Investor Relations, 866-284-2835 info@e-mediadirect.com
<font color = green> ADCS is not over. -Good things to come.
As the saying goes.. It aint over until it’s over.
Just because ADCS isn’t PR’ing in One’s OWN TIME FRAME doesn’t mean they’re not PR’ing in THEIR time frame.
When there’s NEW news to print, rest assured, they will.
DON’T lose sight of the current economic conditions we’re all facing!! –Even as you read this!!
People just don’t have the free cash (as before) at this time. –But they(we) will later on tho.. –Just not now for a vast many…
As It appears, folks are busy keeping up with the essentials at this time.
(Choosing between getting a manicure or buying “Groceries”)
When I was an inexperienced investor, I jumped is with a “Invest today and buy a Mercedes Tomorrow” Mentality. To some investors, when this is not met in a few days, they’d curse the stock and attempt to get even by bashing it enough to ensure no other investors place their buys in them. However in some cases, this actually works for the basher (in terms of getting even) while in other cases, it works against the basher (Contributes to how long the PPS remains too low to sell at a profit).
*PPS Rise if Buyers BUY!
ADCS is a happening thing, the concept is “DOABLE” but one must also keep in mind the people behind it. –Yes that’s right “PEOPLE” who are also feeling the pinch of the current economic issues, (according to their income) just like YOU are.
**BUT** -TWO general points to mind.
(1)-Pros
The people behind ADCS/VSTARR are fine-tuning the operation(s) of ADCS/VSTARR as the Business it’s created to be and as a business, it’s ALSO their full time “JOB”.
Therefore, to avoid facing their OWN unemployment(s) further makes it imperative for this business to succeed = Profits = we reap the benefit of higher PPS as more and more people(Investors) get wind of this and Wants-IN.
(2)-Cons
The people behind ADCS/VSTARR are just “People” looking to make “themselves” money by any means necessary for their OWN personal satisfaction(s).
Thereby, the creation of ADCS/VSTARR is merely just another money tool “for them” to that end. Incidentally, all the monies they’re accumulated since selling shares happens to have been just enough to claim “JACKPOT” and so NOW they can retire. Who cares if investors are angry or not. Their lawyers will always win the battle with “that’s why it’s called PINK –Sheets” -unregulated –LOL!
-This is likely why the SEC is less likely involved with pinksheet scams.
However, ADCS is not a scam. They’re merely caught-up in the wave of an economy that went down. -But we're at a turning point and the economy is making a come-back and ADCS/VSTARR couldn't be in a better spot as more and more people starve for actions in the spot-light!! or at least, cheer those who are.
BUT!! –since ADCS/VSTARR are Spearheading a world-wide event, one can only imagine what will happen to their PPS–Heights as more and more developing countries gets “developed” and go “ONLINE”
To Call ADCS a scam is just a disgruntled investor, pissed off at their immediate losses.
However, "DD" says, The ship will soon set sail in OUR direction.
Hang in there!
(All that was stated is in my own opinion and should be taken lightly, if at all)
I "WAS" disgruntled with FFGO due to past losses.
But NOT anymore.. I’m over it and brighter days are coming.
@@ Why was I Disgruntled with FFGO @@
I’ve had a Boat load of shares in this company and to my surprise, there was a R/S that wiped me clean and gave me a “fresh Start”. I had a “New Mind”, so to speak, as I observed the imaginary home, I was hoping to buy, suddenly pop like a balloon into oblivion.
Behind it stood a grinning clown tapping its fingers together. I rolled up my shirtsleeves and couldn’t get to that fool quick enough.
I snapped out of it to realize, “I’m Busted”.. It’s over.. it’s all gone!
Of course this is all my fault for placing that much weight on a pinksheet I failed to do DD on, I needed to blame someone –ELSE –for my bad judgments and lack of Homework.
Pissed off at my losses, I went on a rampage.
This is why I was indifferent with this stock (among others).
BUT –As I continued reading these forums, I’ve learned of many new terms and of certain responsibilities “I” should be taking as an investor.
I then realize, “I” am why I lost my money and this has absolutely “NOTHING” to do with ANY pinksheet company.
My lack of Investment Knowledge paralleled with none usages of “available” tools is where I faulted and thereby, incurred losses.
I would have gained more, is I had known more.
Whether of not, FFGO (or any pinksheet company for that matter) wins or loses isn’t the problem.
My lack of a well-rounded Due Diligence (DD) is the problem.
I’ve realized that “DD” is kind of like an “Owners Manual” FOR and OF a given company.
I have power over my money NOT the pinksheet companies.
If I place my money in them, it’s “TOTALLY” up to me to determine whether doing so was a good move or not.
I was buying stocks with the wrong attitude, unprepared and ill-informed.
It would have been better to plunk it all in slot machines, at random, while staring at the ceiling.
God bless the “DD” investor.
This is where I had a change in reality. FFGO’s PR didn’t necessarily change my MIND, but only “ADDED” to my collections of “DDs”.
I must also include in the equation the tens of thousands of “OTHER” investors, through the planet, who read these PR’s and are likely to respond by their OWN admission(s), with or without my opinion.
On the other hand, “DD” says, this stock has some good potentials and I honestly believe this stock will do very well.
Besides, being pissed off adds to the emotional stresses that causes premature aging…>8^} ---Including hair loss -LOL!
CRDonbray? Hope this answers your good question.
<font color = green>ADCS PPS MAY ACTUALLY RAISE AFTER-ALL!
After doing more DD, I realize this is actually a good stock.
I didnt quite think so before but I was wrong.... Very Wrong..
I can’t help feeling compelled to believe this stock will rise soon.
Each time I think of selling, I end up buying.
Each time I have doubts, I end up having confidence.
Well, for all it’s worth, the prospect of this stock has won me over.
I am hereby in full support of this stock to the fullest extent!!
The prospects of this stock is much too overwhelming to ignore any further, yet alone bash.
I’m in this stock and not only will I buy more but I’ll sit tight and hold on to this mother.
When this ship comes, I’ll be damn if I miss it.
-And believe you me, its coming..
I’ll stay positive on this one.
Yaaaaaaaaaawn! My on my
-If I had a penny for every time someone said this will pick up soon
-LOL!
pick up SOON? -LOL!
(10 years from now can be term as "SOON" as well )
Is BLLB becoming the Imperial Caveat Emptor?!?!
And is so unnecessary if this is the case.
They're pissing on their OWN GOLD
This is SO stupid!!
With all the HYPE that lured money from investors, seems like all that really occurred was shareholder's provision for the Stock issuers lavishing lifestyle(s).
Seems like once these pinksheet-company-owners acquire enough capital "FROM" investors, they be come infected with the "Stuck On Stupid" syndrome
-AND seem to be in “NO RUSH” to move their company forward, “AFTER” all their (personal) expenses (bills) are paid in full from the monies “Given” to them in the form of investor’s stock.
There’s “NO EXCUSE” as to why BLLB’s products aren’t making it into main stream market(s).
Their product is Excellent! and taste great! so WHAT'S THE HOLD-UP???
It’s owners are too busy “Living it up” off of the monies generated from the stocks they sold to us, so much so, that it’s likely no loner an importance as to whether they pursue further company follow-up, follow-through or growth.
They got the money they wanted, so why care.
Vianna? Been watching your FFGO patriotism and...
(Also notice deletion of some of my comments –Wink-Wink)
Through it all, you’ve been rooting this stock even when it appeared point-less.
(Wondering if you’re in cahoots with this CEO fella {listed in the above iBox area} Who looks like a Male Model -Wink-Wink)
*Oh and, I'm wondering if we're paying for his seemingly lavished lifestyle including his likely personal Manicurist(s).*
I’ve been reading all your comments and you seem to keep a steady tone regardless of what’s spoken.
Since you’ve won my fanship, I’ve created an acronym for you using the letters of your Login Name.
Remarkably, it seems all too fitting.
Vianna
VIANNA
V.I.A.N.N.A.
Visionary. Investor. And. Noticeably. Not. Analretentive
>8^P
Quite frankly, I had several Acronyms for your name.. One of which caused everything in my life since birth to be expunged =)
Well, any-who, your commitment to this stock (dedication) and motivation is contagious (I need to stop reading everything you type)…>8^}
I don’t like being a Pumper’s pet.
ARFF!! ARFF! ROOFF!
(Vianna picks up stick and hurls it back into the ocean, ib12u stands firm ….. But gives in –W O O F… Woof …oof…….umf….*splash*)
????Did I just typed that?
Dayum,, I must be sleep typing..
Breharb25? Your FFGO Question deserves an Answer.
RE: Your Question to me: *If you think its gonna hit $1, why would you sell before then????*
My Answer to you: Through my leanings (Butt kicked a few times), I’ve “evolved” to being a smarter investor and one of my tactics (in this case) is to Buy a Pig load of shares to keep tucked away for the so-called BIG-ONE, (so to speak).
THEN buy a second Pig load for Flipping.
While waiting for the LONG Growth, I’ll be cashing in on short term growth. –LOL!
I may have talked a lot of trash about this stock (still pissed off from past experience) but I aint no fool and I aint planning on missing the boat on this one either.
As much as I hate to admit it, (call it the sucker syndrome), I honestly see where this stock is heading and don’t think I’ve not been all over this stock PR’s and my own DD.
FFGO got some real underlying meat here and after they finish dusting off their shoes they’ll be no stopping them.. At least for a while anyways.
And YES I did sell off all my shares ONLY because through my new found knowledge, my investment losses will be written off when I file my next tax return (as I’ve already done for this year). So in some sense, it’s a win-win.
If I Gain a profit here, I’ll pay taxes "SO WHAT" but I’ll still have good overall gains.
If I lose profits here, I’ll write it off -LOL!
It sucks the number of people who’ve had a string of losses for years from PPS declines, R/S’s and what all.
I was one of them….. but not anymore -LOL!
NOW YOU KNOW ….>8^}
And as for you FFGO?, I got a bone to pick with you. -I dont like Reverse Bashings.. When I say your're worthless, I didnt mean to be proven wrong!! I dont like that,, STOP IT!!!
When I bash, I aim for you to STAY BASHED!! -NOT RECOVER FROM IT!!
You're making me look bad and I DONT LIKE THAT!!
STOP THAT!! DAMIT!!
$1+ PPS OF FFGO OVER DUE!!!
Although I suspect this sometime in or after the 4th Quarter (I wont say why….yet) >8^}
I’ve currently purchased a PIG load of shares strictly for flipping -LOL!
And YES (grudgingly to admit) this stock is going to soon fly off the charts, most likely as soon as the damn OIL prices starts falling as THOSE investors will pull out and fill their Need for Greed elsewhere. FFGO will be on their radar no doubt.
(YES, as the long time “corporate” suppressed inventions start getting revisited and finally implemented, GAS (oil) will lose its appeal –LOL!)
Be that it may, as it stands, I’m at a loss and now loaded up on shares and standing ready for flipping.
The hell with waiting for the pending $1 PPS, I’ll be flipping on a 20% -50% gain, nuff for me. Hell I’ll then use the profit to upgrade my computer.
I followed/Read FFGO’s latest PR. –“Sounds” impressive but I still think there’s a slithering snake in the tree on this one.
FFGO knows they can simply feed the hungry(Angry) investors by simply Digging up minerals from their select mines, convert it into cash and do a (free)-Cash Divi.
Free: cause the money likely comes from their mines, not their personal bank accounts.
FFGO also knows that by the time they “EXPOSE” their true findings or net worth, every body who’s anybody will be climbing over each other getting in this stock and that’ll be a hell of hands in the pot at these prices –LOL!
They wont mind all those hands if the PPS was @ $1+ -LOL! -In fact, it’ll be encouraged -LOL!
But in my case, I’ll be cashing in as soon as I detect a profit. –LOL!
In fact, I’ll be Pigging more to flip when the market reopens.
Although the RISK is they’ll do an R/S on me.
But if they do, especially after having “Admitted” in their PR that they wouldn’t likely, and even went as far as to elaborate on how it effects their image and incurs damages on and to their (Faithful) investors, then this would be the smoking gun shot off in their OWN foot and they’ll surely be closed down for good.
BUT…. If they follow through and actually go platinum, then there will be a hell of a lot of happy ass people with enough loot to jump-start the economy –LOL!
But BEWARE!! (And be warned) of the snake in the tree.
WELL I'VE ABOUT HAD IT WITH THESE CEO's
CEO = Cash Extortion Ogres
Although I'm still pissed off (can you tell?)
I am willing to see what this NEW GUY is up to.
(The Pattern is PR -DUMP, PR -PUMP, DUMP and then RUN)
This wont stop my Flipping Rampage starting next week.
The LONG of the SHORT is,,, I'm no LONGer LONG with these pinkoes and that's the SHORT of it.. >8^}
But as LONG as I'm SHORT, I'll be Flipping the hell out of them for as LONG as I can.
These Pinkoes will pay for what they've done to me.
in the end, I'll be flipping Billions of shares on them and hopfully shut them down..
Heeeeere Pinky Pinky,, where are yous, I'm commin for ya'z
LOL! this is my new game!,,, PINK-POW. -LOL!
LOL! this is gonna be fun!!!
I cant wait till the market opens -LOL!
This is so exciting!!!
THIS STOCK IS ON THE RISE!!!
-LOL!
What a bunch of BS!
What good is buying up all this stock if it'll soon get R/S'ed away (as usual)
There will NOT be a buyback, increase, profits or anything
just share Dumpings so that the "Dumpsters" can line THEIR pockets with YOUR money.
IT's been how long now? since the last PR? and yet NOTHING happened to the PPS -LOL!
In "FACT" it got lower and been there ever since -LOL!
well I'm glad I dumped this stock and now making lots of money flipping.
(what was I thinking) - Flipping "IS" all these pinks are good for.
Jump IN, and Flip OUT!
That's my punishment for all my losses with their damn RS's and -1000%+ drop in pps.
Not only did I lose out but so did uncle SAM, cause I'll be writing off all my loses in this damn stock when I file
my tax return next year. HA! HA! HA!
As of this moment, I can give a damn whether this stock ever rise or not!
I recaptured by losses from flipping other pinksh-t stocks anyways.
now I'm in it for fun and revenge.
I'm going to flip the living hell out of every penny stock I find from here on out!
That'll teach them a lesson for the stress they caused those they ripped off.
Now with my new gains, next week I'll be purchasing several million shares in this stock solely for flipping
the moment I detect a gain.
I'll have these damn pinks scared to be listed -LOL!
Yea that's right! yo pink buttox is MINE!
THIS IS WAR!!!
so PINKOES! PROCEED IN FEAR!!
Cause the motha-FLIPPA IS HERE!!!
YET the PPS remains @ .0000/.0001 -Go figure!
All I see is FACTS!
the PPS REMAINS UNCHANGED!
and has been that way throughout all the PR's and what all else!
Bash or no Bash, Pump or no Pump, Simply Multiply YOUR total shares by .0001 and REALIZE the net-REALITY -LOL!
The only thing getting OLD here, is the war on avoided realities.
SELL or stay in HELL -LOL!
OOPS,, nevermind, you're already FORKED up! -LOL!
(I've been burned once but never again)
ok ok ok ,, I'll lightn up.... um... let's see now,,,,, AH!! here we go!!
um... FFGO WILL EXPLOSE NEXT WEEK!!!! um..... GET IN NOW WHILE YOU CAN...um... THIS WILL BE $1 (or more) VERY SOON!!! um... GO! GO! GO!! BUY UP NOW!!!!
-lol
>8^}
(funny thing, what if this really happens) 8^S
I jump off the nearest brige... (on a hang glider)
Total Monkey Dung!!
1. How do you know the buy was with real money rather than virtual money? -(Printing Press)
(As CEO, you can play with -or manipulate- your account records, to appear any way you want)
2. Just cause it's PR'd, doesnt mean its true. (Didn't figured this out yet?)
3. Are people suffering a case of "Chart-Phobia".. READ THE CHARTS!! it tells all -PPS still at .0001/.0002 DUH!
(Oh um.. Correction.. PPS @ .0000/.0001)
4. There are some real desparate PUMP Motha-pumpers out there, hell bent on recapturing their losses -LOL!
(It aint gonna happen)
5. Scammers are running out of options, (Today's money issues has Suckers on a decline), so more measures are taken to "Suck-up" more money.
6. How many PR's has passed so far without ANY change to the "Current" PPS?
7. With all the so called Big-Buys, has the float changed? -LOL!
8. Why is it so hard to get the CORRECT O/S? -LOL!
9. feel free to Re-Read Post#11761 -LOL!
10. Every time you hear of a inside -buy... Pull up the A/S, O/S to see all the (B/S) -LOL!
11. I am NOT am owner of this stock, I have NOTHING to gain or lose. All my shares were R/S'ed away.. I own only ONE ".032" share -LOL the value is too low to be listed -LOL anyone like to buy it?
SCAM RUNNERS care less about getting cought!
Scammers go into scamming "KNOWING" the risks involved, as well as their Exit Strategy(s) -LOL!
They could give two monkey dungs about "YOU" or getting cought!
They could care less about your threats or who's injured by their actions.
They're after one thing.... MONEY!
-And once they have (your) MONEY, they'll turn and run from or through a hail of bullets while couting it..
Oh sure, they'll get a few slugs in the back, but they'll heal and joke about it later while relaxing in a hot tub.
In the mean time, YOU'RE out of your money and they go on through life with your existance totally forgotten.
It's all about the money... and since there's a sucker born every minute (as the saying goes) the scammers will ALWAYS
Have a reserve of suckers to scam.
Some suckers are scammed more than once.
SO-- WHO THE HELL CARES now,, your money is gone and THAT'S THAT!
and all the cursing, swearing and threats is NOT going to return it.
Let's Face it..... YOU'VE BEEN SCREWED!!! -LOL!
(But the sucker in me keeps believing there's still hope)
Texan77? What da Hayell?
-LOL!
I think I just lost a few IQ -points from reading that, yet alone damaged brain cells trying to process it. -LOL!
um,,,,, ya might wanna pass me a few lead paint chips while we're at it
>X^}
BUT ALL I SEE IS A .0001 PPS >8^}
Who the hell cares what the PPS of “other” companies are doing and using THAT as come kind of template to describe what may or may not happen here..
This stock is at .0001 and that’s THAT!
Pulling in data from OTHER companies doesn’t do anything here.
You best sell while you can… OH! I’m sorry, your all locked in @ .0001.
-LOL!
Who the hell cares what the volume is,, the PPS is @ .0001 and that’s THAT!
so Volume Smolume for all I care.
After all these self pacifying references of hope, when all that smoke clears, what’s left is just some sense of “Feeling Good”… but the realities shows .0001 -LOL!
UNTIL the PPS of this stock raises back into the .001s or higher (.01, .1, $1+) then what you’re all doing here is psyching each other up and out.
You're feeding each other the kind of foods everyone wants to eat.
And furthermore,, with all the so-called buys, you’d think the float would be shrinking enough to cause the PPS to raise above .0002 (yet alone .0001).
Therefore, who’s “replacing” the millions of shares that are "Continuously" being bought up?
SO like I said before,,,,,,, there’s DUMPING going on.
Oh and BTW, here’s something YOU can do, count up all the shares Bought-up today and subtract THAT number from the O/S,,, does the numbers change? And if so, by how much? (if at all)
THIS is “your” smoking gun as to whether all those stock purchases are really purchases or just market manipulations to appear that way.
-LOL!
(I’m beginning to like this) -LOL!
WOW ADCS IS A GREAT STOCK!!!!
-LOL!
It’s been weeks and weeks of all the shareholder’s supporting comments of this stock (including my own), and with all the wishful thinking and what all, the PPS continues to get lower and lower until finally,,,, the BID is now .0001 and the ASK is now .0002 -LOL!
Real record breakers,, I’m sure -LOL!,, But on the wrong side of the decimal point -LOL!
As I’ve said is previous posts (feel free to track/review them), This stock will remain the same by Friday…. OOPS.. that was,, what,,,, 3 Fridays ago? -LOL! Only now it’s PPS is even lower -LOL!
(Wondering where are all the pumpers) -LOL!
Um,, YO PUMPERS!!,, um,,, this stock is gonna blow right? -LOL!
Actually,, you were correct!!,, except,, you forgot to add the setter “S” after the word “BLOW” -LOL!
I love reading all the pumping comments ,, then watch the charts make liars out of them -LOL!
THEN I notice the pumpers pull a Houdini act and “Disappear” for a few days –LOL!
And what was that ADCS said in one of their past PR’s,, um,,, something alone the lines of not doing a R/S anytime soon?…..um….but one thing…. “How SOON is soon” -LOL!
My Soon is not the same as YOUR Soon,,, as we’ll all SOON see -LOL!
At these current PPS, Reverse Spit is SOON to be imminent -LOL!
Did I say spit? Heh I meant SPLIT –Aww what the hell,, it’s all the same to me -LOL!
Here pumper pumper! C’mon!,, give this stock your best shot! -LOL!
SHARE BUYBACK issue.
Been watching this stock (casually), observed this so-called BUYBACK pending at some point in the future.
However, charts are showing excessive Share “DUMPINGS”.
Although this may be some kind of coincidence, it may also be part of some “inner-loop” activities, setting up for a buyback,,, -But after 1st DUMPING on the market the shares that are later to be bought back. -LOL!
Which is a win win. (the sneaks) -LOL!
Those running this Buyback campaign will make the company look real good to potential investors with all the buying back of shares.
But what they may not know is the share being bought back were from the batched of shares previously dumped –LOL!
-SO, what all the buyback'rs gained or lost was really “foot traffic” -LOL! (or printing press ink).
I may (or may not) post the chart later (gotta go to a business meeting).
But it’s because of sneaky market manipulating crap like this for why I’ve dumped this share and others (accepted my losses as self punishment for having taken such a foolish risk such stock) and moved on ..
I’m betting that by the time this stock closes in on the point of the alleged buybacks, The following will likely occur.
1. They’ll pass the due point and THEN give an apology followed by some currently prepared (BS)excuse as to why it didn’t occur.
2. As the “DUE Time” draws near, they’ll PR everyone of some acquisition(BS) and then give an extended date for the buyback.
3. Wont say anything at all (while cashing in on all the new buyers who pigged up their penny shares in anticipation of the buyback (that didn’t occur)
4. Realizing they’re “reasonably” well pass the buyback date and shareholders are then beginning to grumble, they’ll PR that the amount of shares pending buyback have been increased –LOL! (in an attempt to pacify disgruntle shareholders)
LOL!
The point is?
If they’re preparing or “Acquisitioning themselves” to BUYBACK outstanding shares,,, why are they dumping?----------------FIRST!
Makes NO sense, unless, it’s to fool the market on the surface while manipulating the bottom line in THEIR favor…. Literally!
I may be totally wrong (I hope I am),but I’ve seen so much market “BS” that I’ve lost all my gullibility.
UNTIL I see REAL NUMBERS,, not some damn proposition, acquisition, or the Could-have done it, Would-have done it or Should-have done it, about to do it, then “ALL” of these PR’s are full of pure Monkey Dung!!
SHOW ME THE NUMBERS!!!
WHERE’S THE NUMBERS???
Oops,,, heh,,, sorry,,,, they’re all in the CHARTS!!! ….>8^}
All that was stated is my own opinion and should be taken lightly, it at all.
BUT!!! until I see FACTS, the actual buyback occurring of the "outstanding shares" and not on the shares NOW being dumped (-First), then my opinion stands strong(er) with me
CYA’S gotta go but I’ll be back!
All this good news, YET the PPS remains @ ".0002 - .0004" -LOL!
I'm sick and tired of all these "Heaping" success stories and what all, then from the excitement, I'd dash to my portfolio and in my Gains/Loss box, I'm still showing over-all negative percentages on this stock.
So what gives?
Now I know my having even said this may steer away a few newbies, but, it IS what it IS and I SEE what I SEE!
However, I'm also proceeding with ADCS while understanding that this stock is relatively new and now being officially exposed to the world.
For this reason, I truly believe this stock is catching on (According to DD) and soon to sky rocket so high that it may be tough for many to get in on the train, yet alone able to afford the impressive price of one share.
Time will tell....
All my opinion, and should be taken lightly (If at all) -LOL!
Following ADCS, rough starts but, unlikely a scam.
Currently compiling info to share later (for the hell of it)..
BUT,
I believe this is going to do well after all the smoke clears -IMO.
One of the advantages of this project (IMO) is the ease of entry
Everyone who’s anybody can enter without “Traveling anywhere” to do it!
As long as you have an internet connection, you’re IN!
Dial-up, DSL, Cable, Dish, Cell phones, PDA, iPhones, Smart phones you name it!
If it gets On-Line, You can enter your contest application from anywhere in the world.
There are no lines to stand-in!.. (You can join while stark naked from the privacy of your location, where ever that may be) –LOL!
Although I’ve held off on buying more shares (think I have enough for now), I may do so later on when this seed blooms.
Sorry folk!! For all it’s worth, my hopes are up on this one.
And who am “I” ?,, just your friendly neighborhood stock watchman…>8^}
There are still some kinks they need to work out tho, such as,
“seeming to not know that a contest, opened to the “PLANET” would likely cause a high influx of applicants” –LOL!
Hence message on today’s signup page. (can we say…Dooffus?) -LOL!
BUT,, I must also ask this,, -How do we know if there were really that many applicants?
How do WE know that ADCS really fronted that comment today, on their entry page, just to buy time to improve ON that page’s loading time? -LOL!
Living in the digital word, one second delay can be somewhat annoying, yet alone “60” or more of them -LOL!
So if they do NOT find a way to improve on that, they’ll likely cut their applicant count DOWN.. which adds up to THAT many $25 applicant fees they’ll likely NOT be getting -LOL! For every moment it isn’t fixed..
AND another thing, is there (or will there be) a “History Listing” of applicants that currently signed up in a MINUTE?, HOUR?, DAY?, WEEK?, MONTH?, YEAR? (Decade, Century –LOL)
I would like to see the tracking list of applicants “Growing”.. Be it by graph charts or some other means..
HAY!! Maybe they can “ADD” an applet to their page that displays (shows) the number of applicants that signed up so far!!!
(LOL,, Awwwww HELL!!,,, done PUT “ADCS” ON THE SPOT!!!) -LOL!!!!
HAY!!! ADCS!! (cause I know your scouts are reading this),, HOW ABOUT A “PAID” APPLICANT COUNTER (applet), INSTALLED ON YOUR PAGE!!!!!!
LOL!! HOW ABOUT IT!!!!! -ROFLMAO!!!!
Damit,, I done laughed myself into buying shares…..>=^{
-LOL! -YEP! I think this project is going to do just fine!
(P.S.,, wonder why ADCS haven’t broke back above the .0004’s yet? Seem to be oscillating between .0003’s and .0004’s)…things that make ya say hmmmmm. Other than that, seeme like a green light to me!
All that was stated in my own opinion and should be taken lightly. –If at all
My POINT is (and will now be) the following
1. In terms of my Wife, (Hence Marriage), was with this stock which I’ve long since divorced.
2. Yanking up Marijuana plants doesn’t makes me a Jerk Weed...>8^}
3. The same conditions under which you’ve responded, is the same for which I’ve commented
Finally, your demonstrated show of protection for this stock may be a dead give away of you’re being connected with the scheming scamming scum, stenching this skunk stock.
I happen to be one of those who had high hopes for this stock. Regrettably, I “was” a faithful fool unto this stock.
Bragged about its product claims, to family and friends who now all mock me with a periodic “I told you so”, Leaving me to feel like a complete idiot yet alone embarrassed being around them with mockery hanging over my head.
Then the next thing I know, IPKL became a shell without adequate warning. They seem to become a shell almost immediately after having announced it. Never really giving shareholder time enough to sell or otherwise reacclimatize themselves.
This company got its money from stiffing its faithful shareholders and been in precalculated limbo ever since.
However, although they’ve not done a Reverse Stock Split (R/S), they’ve done the next best thing by GRAYing themselves out to a pissfunctional shell.
THIS way they can still rip off their shareholders as if having done an R/S, but without the Symbol and Company Name change, yet alone the likely adverse reputation(s), if having done the R/S to begin with.
Although this is still functioning as a Gray-Shell and astonishingly still actively trading down there, it’s yet an empty Pink-Shell here on our level and not trading here at all.
Yes it’s all MY FAULT for trusting in what I believed to be a reputable company as I Poured my money into it after being self-suckered into doing so from diligently following (believing) all their PR’s.
Now I feel like I’ve been Well Slunged artistically Flunged Monkey Dung and left Hunged.
Until they return so I can get my money back by DUMPing my shares back into their F----- faces, my thought will not change.
IPKL FORUM STILL UP AND ACTIVE??
This is very confusing..
There’s nothing happening with this stock.
There’s no profit expected from or with this stock
Posters appear to be all bag holders, stuck in limbo by Obligations of chasing losses in this stock.
Hoping for some news that may lead to recapturing losses that are now gone with the wind.
Thousands and/or even millions of shares were motivated my PR’s into purchase and now are valueless. All the monies are in the pockets of the company owners who have long since decided on shelling IPKL, along with the premeditated exiting strategies. (which worked, sadly to admit)
Looking back, it appears like night and day from the projected promises that lured monies from investors to suddenly (as it seems) becoming a shell.
There’s NO PR’s from this stock nor any indications of any planned anytime soon.
Yet we’re all here keeping this forum alive and well.
Quite frankly, it since been demoted to a CHAT ROOM.
Perhaps the Acronym of “IPKL” should be changed to “Investor's Purchases, Kissed Losses”
Totally hope –LESS
Even arguing the point is point -LESS..
When all the smoke clears and the hot iron cools, they’re IN THE MONEY –You’re OUT OF..
Screw the SEC, they're use -LESS.
ADCS: Trades that Occurred today 06/09/08
However, I expect this to rise shortly, due to the observed increase of buys after today’s “late” PR -LOL!
Good thing I stayed on and not go into “PANIC” sells -LOL!
Seems like there were no real problems after all (according to the PR), ADCS/VSTARR simply went temporally dormant due to some intra-company reorganizations to align its self for a campaign intended to bring profits –LOL!
(I wish they told US this before doing that)
Oh well, good thing I bought at 0003s earlier today, as I’ve already entered the “green” since the PPS closed at 0004 -LOL! ….Nice!
Will it be even higher tomorrow? Later this week? -LOL! We’ll see!!
Oh and um,, PLEASE NOTE of earlier Post http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=29869476 it was only a projection based on an ideal analysis. One must think of international portfolios owned by people in India, Russia, China and more yet alone the population and all it takes is a very small percentage of that. ..>8^}
However, please don’t accuse the comment as “set in stone” as this was not the intention, although profoundly reasonable. BUT, I do believe the scenario is believable and possible and if all goes as planned, very probable. 5 billion shares can be absorbed very quickly when thinking globally, given the amount of shareholders (Worldwide) may eventually hold in this stock when this project officially takes off.
OK.. nuff of all that.
According to the PR released today, -“TODAY” marks the 1st day going forward towards the success we’re all hoping for.
And I’ll continue to stay in this stock, (experimenting and learning), win or lose…
(Shorter?… don’t get cocky)
For all it’s worth;
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=331052169
(May take a few moments to load, depending on connection... seems to lock but its just loading if you can wait it out)
In locating the AD, the PR said you may need to do multiple refreshes after loading up the Myspace.com… May need to use the word “demo” in the search bar.. (If I understood it right), as there are many ads to “refresh” through before ADCS/VSTARR’s AD shows up....
*I stand to be corrected!! Please do so if I’m wrong and /or if you know the correct method(s)
Remember, -ALL that was stated is my opinion and should be taken lightly.
>=^)
Thanks for your response Fizz1030!..=)
Um,, I’ve read your reply (thanks) and quite frankly, Agree with your "Legitimate" prognostication (assuming all things Legit) –LOL! --- This statement was conjectured as hypothetical rather than actual or even believed.
Just running some likely figures, if all things were legitimate.
And may yet likely be so, as time will eventually tell.
However, the following was also stated within the post you've responded to;
**In either case, Lessons will be learned and used when making further investment choices.**
From this, I can say (and mean) in all honesty unto myself, that the likelihood of this repeating is “far and few between”,
However illogical it may seem before, Logic has it what I am now “IN” this stock and will therefore wait and see where it goes from here.
DO or Die.
I admit my choices may not have been as sharp as otherwise known for, in this case.
But I ask, am I basing this post conclusion on a 20/20 hind side?
Perhaps I made a decision based on a doable concept, more likely so, than on the backs (or skills) of those who’ve set out to do it.
Fortunately, this isn’t the only stock I’m vested in and my over-all net is in the green within by portfolio.
Current Losses “here” are and were absorbed by profits elsewhere…>8^}.
Notice I used the word “Current” as I don’t believe our current PPS is fixed down here.
-This is all my opinion and should be taken lightly if at all.
ADCS Share Structure Issues, Reviewed. IMO.
((1st off, I really enjoy reading what you folks type here. Especially the comedians LOL! ....My returning here is part of the highlight of going online…….oh and um,,this includes Pumpers and Nay Sayers -LOL!))
Share structure: 5,000,000,000 total authorized per Nevada S.O.S. effective June 2, 2008
470,000,000 authorized common per the company's March 13 press release
OS-467,738,681 current as of June 2, 2008 per joenatural
OS-383,263,681 as of May 29, 2008 per balihi
OS-359,913,681 as of May 21, 2008 per joenatural
OS-250,913,681 as of April 29, 2008
OS-223,663,681 as of February 29, 2008
OS-est. 250,000 after the reverse split in Dec. 2007
From the Above, (Taken from the iBox of this page), I’ve studied that the 5’Billion shares are not necessarily what has been thrown at the investors, but rather what has been made available to ADCS.
(Known it or not)
Therefore, 5'Billion shares are “Authorized” to ADCS, for their disposal (I mean usage)..>8^}... Thereby, “IF” needed to raise capital, they’ll simply pour a portion of the “Authorized Shares” (Reservoir), into the OS-pool for trading .
However, the “Actual” shares allocated for “Trading” or deemed “Common” is 470’Million and once again, it is from this pool of shares that WE're buying and selling from.
We’re all lead to believe through Released PR’s that this “Talent Project” can have participants from anywhere in the world (Per $25 signup fee) from a “Global” perspective, that’s potentially a hell of a $25 fees received ---WOW!
Now, let do some math here; (assuming all things Legit)
If ADCS was to dump all 5 Billions shares of their AS into the OS, this generally means, in an ideal since, that about 5 billion shareholders (worldwide) can “each” only own “ONE SHARE” of this stock!
You and I know the likely chances of this happening is well beyond being “Far and few between” if ever at all –LOL!
I’d guess that 97% of all investors who’d buy this stock, would get at least 50000 share at these prices and that’s grossly putting it mildly.
But in using those figures, if 5 billion shares were to be divided into 50000 blocks of shares, then only 100 thousand shareholders (Worldwide) would have them.
Playing with these numbers yet further, I get if 5 Billion shares were divided into 500000 blocks of shares, then only 10 thousand shareholders (Worldwide) would have them.
Or if I really want to get cocky, about 1 million shareowners can own about 5000 shares each for the total of 5 billion shares that are OS.
Now, when I think about the possible numbers of new investors in this stock, (again assuming all things legit) and being that this project is potentially a world wide event, I can figure the above 5 billion shares, if represented as OS, would be quite small.
Ironically, this shad some light on this otherwise assumed scam practices of this stock, whereas, it can also mean that ADCS/VSTARR expects this project to be that dayum big and have anticipated needing 5 billion shares under their wings to keep up with the calculated (worldwide) demands when this operation takes flight.
Now I might be wrong with this parallel analysis, as it’s nothing more that MY OWN speculation or Opinion, “limited” by my current knowledge.
But as I learn more and more about the by-laws and other underlying laws, inside and outside of the SEC, regarding these pink companies and above, I’m beginning to think less and less as a greedy investor and more as a curious diplomat…>=^}…..LOL!
Someone said a few posts ago, that stocks like these are best from flipping.
Sadly to admit, those who’ve done so are likely not the ones pissed off at the seemingly sudden PPS dip. Well, unless they became bag holders after a “Flip FLOP” -LOL!
I was about to cash in on this stock and call it quits.
But after a long night tossing and turning while having a nightmare regarding this stock, I’ve decided to keep it. In fact, I think I’ll actually buy more. At these prices, it’s short money and I’ve already done a lot worst playing the state lottery, which I have yet to win 0001 percent of what I’ve lost -LOL!
I’ve been watching these ADCS/VSTARR players and in spite of the PPS dip, I think they’re onto something.
But what I think doesn’t mean a damn thing compared to what ADCS/VSTARR thinks and I’ve been careful not to let my emotions get in the way of the fact that BE.
WE ALL can sit here and finger up all we want, as we fill this forum when what we and others sharing like-views, wants to hear.
There are many Vectors here with each sending the point of views to and from their NODES of thought (or assumptions). I admit being no different.
But I will stay until it’s wins or dies… In either case, Lessons will be learned and used when making further investment choices.
All that was stated, was of my own opinion and should be taken lightly, if at all.
(Wink-Wink)
I await responses!
>8^}
CHART: FFGO Trades for the day (06/03/08)
Well well well, seems like ever since that posting of all the erroneous trades of “9,000,000” blocks of shares was pointed out, this stock's trade count took a dive –LOL!
I gather those buys are by Newbies from some other forum, who are not clued in on what we’ve discovered here -LOL!
As you can all see, the sudden halting of those trades in blocks of “9million” at a time, one after the other, may be the result of them knowing we’re on to them -LOL! (if this should be the case) -LOL!,, I’m only speculating here now -LOL!
But given the track record, dating back quite a bit,, it’s rather ironic such an on-going flow of PIG trades should come to an immediate end -LOL! “FOLLOWING” a post that drawn attention to the transactions -LOL!
Likely From “BOTH” sides of the market –LOL!
DON’T GET ME WRONG HERE!!,, I call’m as I see’m!
The “ONLY” time a company should worry about what’s stated here with these charts, are those who are NOT operating with legal intent.
An Honest company would be exposed accordingly by their “WORKS”, per their historical charts, “TRACKED and CREATED” by the ROLE and DATA –Trail they “leave behind” themselves, as they move about the market!
Never the less, I still have faith -LOL!
And DO observe for a point at which I’ll feel this stock is worthy of my return..
All that was stated is of my own opinion and should be taken lightly, if at all..
(This stock will stay on my radar)
There's 0ne thing hated more than dumb Shareholders,, and that's the Smart Ones....... >8^}...........LOL!
CHART: What ADCS traded for the day! (06/03/2008)
But before I begin, -LOL!
-ROFLMAO @ RonnieD, post#22399, RE: Longs souldn’t worry, They’ll have Strong support at .0001 -LOL!
What a freaking comedian! This guy, -LOL!………….>8^{…………….LOL!
(wiping tickled tears from eyes) Listen you!,, I’m one of those bag holders who may be supporting those .0001’s
LOL!…………………whew!…ok… (regaining composure)
OK,, for all it’s worth, this is what ADCS traded today; (List was too long so I split it into 4 groups, from left to right, from latest to earliest)
Seems like the ONLY ones who’ll profit from these prices are the shorters or those who load up cheap now and flip for a profit later (assuming this stock doesn’t totally tank)
Someone said we may be staging for an R/S, However, I DO doubt there will be an R/S any time soon..IMO. (although Pinks and Promises never likely go hand and hand). I DO think there’s just some restructuring going on.
Also Someone said,, let’s think positive…..hmmmmmm
OK!
--OH I got it!! Here we go,,, >8^}
Um,,, ADCS is allowing shareholders to load up cheap,, and then Sky-rocket this PPS making a countless many very financially well off…. >=^)….LOL!
And,,,THEN,,,um,,, when it hits the airway (mainstream), stating many ADCS shareholders bank rolled a hefty return on their investments..THEN,,,um,,,,um….(think thinking positive),, um,,, THEN….damn near everyone seeking lightning to strike twice will flood into this stock and raise it even higher -LOL!
And um,,, this stock and all those involved will have a very happy life ever after…um……….THE END…. >=^)
-I know yall liked that -LOL!…didn’t ya! ….LOL!
Oh and um,,, someone PM’ed me, saying, I was Psychotic….. >=^d
(I’ll leave that one alone)…>6^l
Finally, ADCS shouldn't be shot down over a bump in the road, I mean after all, it "IS" a Pinksheet company and quite frankly, Pinks aren't as obligated as those companies trading in mainstream....>8^}
We took a "RISK" trading in the pinks -LOL!
Win some,, Lose many -LOL!
But I still have Faith and I will not sell off my shares,, but I'll be buying more tho >=^)..just in case!.......(they need the money)....LOL!....OOPS!
All that was typed was my own opinion and should be takin lightly, it at all
>8^p
SMWF MAKING THEIR MOVE!!
-LOL
But in what direction? -LOL!
Here are the trades that occurred with this,,, “HOT STOCK” on 06/02/2008; -LOL!
-AND-
Following all the “HOT PRESS”, of how well people took to the S-GEN, all the inquiries
And other bragging rights.,, like…
Done had a sponsor and all.
Even have Chinese businessmen involved. Assembly facility and what not.
Done been on MoneyTV and all.
Even been featured on the Prominent Montel Williams Show!
They even got Microsoft Involved!
Feel free to read more bragging rights here -> http://www.slwf.net/main-site/index.html and/or here -> http://www.slwf.net/cgi-bin/display_news_list.pl
Even got pre-orders lines up!! (Hell, even I pre-ordered) –LOL!
Trend of pre-orders (back orders) and growing! Shown here;
According the trend, (doing the math) they’re likely well over 10,000 in pre-orders by now.
Relatively small you say? Well, that is, until you multiply by, say over $1000 per unit order, you have about 10 million dollars worth of “PRE ORDERS” standing by !!
Would you not?
Yet alone to think this was about 5 million Dollars worth of pre-orders back on 02/27/07, on a pre-order trend of about 5000, according to the trend chart provided by SMWF.
Now, Why in hell, would a company Drag their feet or “POSTPONE” that kind of big money “WAITING” to be received, by filling orders “FOR” their products? –Beats the hell out of me…
And with all this Major PR’ing, THIS is what the PPS of SMWF done since January 2008;
And falling -LOL! (so much for bragging rights) -LOL!
OK, Now what!
What the hell are they waiting for,, NOW?
Seems like everything is a green-light for SMWF, -Full steam ahead! –All hands are “ON DECK and waiting” all except,,, well,,,, the “PRODUCT” –LOL!
ROFLMAO!
Usually, you START with the product “THEN” hope to find a market, yet alone buyers.
However, in contrast, SMWF have;
buyers “LINED UP”,
outstanding promos
prominent heavyweights in syndication and business standing by.
Countless shareholders with itchy fingers and deep pockets
Manufacturing plants lined with waiting assemblers and packers
-AND, according to this SMWF’s video PR Clip, http://www.seamlessinternet.com/s-xgen/commercial.html , s-Gens are already Packaged and ready for shipment! –LOL!
(Anticipated to be sold at over $1000 –EACH!!! –guess that debunks excuses ,,,,,OOPS! Where that PIC come from) –LOL!
YET, through it all, we still have NO product on the shelves, NO preorders filled –“PRE-ORDERS”,,,,,,,,,and NO release date –LOL!,,, yet alone Manufacturing date -LOL! - NOTHING!!!
Not even a (Clue-Giving) PR..
Yaaaaaaaaawn!!!!
Oh well,, so much for all the hype -LOL!
Except for the charts, , >8^},,, everything ELSE is MY opinion and should be taken lightly
There's one thing hated more than dumb shareholders..
>8^{
,,, and that’s the smart ones .
.>9^} -LOL!
REVERSE STOCK SPLITS REVIEWED
(A possibly Fraudulent in nature)
****The last time I posted this warning, it was unsurprisingly deleted, as I believe it struck the nerves of some UPPER-level cons. (those who "MANAGE" Boiler room career criminals)
Read (Make copies) while you can because I suspect it will be deleted again to hide a likely hidden truth.
I will post it again NOW!
---In my research I may have stumbled across something that’s worth some concerns regarding this Reverse Stock Splits (R/S) monkey business.
It appears that R/S rips off shareholders while benefiting the pink sheeters that perform(s) it, using the following scenario.
Let’s say the price per Share of a given Pink Sheet company = .0001 (the most minimum share value necessary to be of any concern with the SEC)
Now say you purchased 1,000,000 chares (you spent $100/(.0001 per share) = 1,000,000 shares)
Your then “hope” (for example) the shares go to at least .0002 (where your shares will then be worth $200) and so on..
THAT pink sheet company “THEN” does a Reverse Stock Split on ya.
You ask questions regarding this split and your then “pampered” with =”OH DON’T WORRY, YOUR SHARE VALUE WONT CHANGE” and you’re assured this (BS) by the math being done for you to prove it, as follows;
Your current 1,000,000 shares ($100/[.0001/share]) having a total initial vested value of $100.
Let’s say the Split is 1 share for every 1,000 shares you now own.
This NOW means, (after doing the math [1000000/1000]), 1000 shares will be your NEW (resulting) total number of shares.
You PANIC at first, as you think about the loss of 999000 shares [1000000-1000] but sigh with relief as you’re reassured that even though the NEW share value is now 0.1 (10 cents) per share, your initially invested $100 didn’t change. Although your previously owned “1 million shares” were R/S’ed to a total of 1000 shares, you CAN verify that you still have your initial $100 investment after multiplying the new price per share (0.10) by the total number of shares you now own after the R/S. (1000)
Thus (1000000 * 0.0001) = (1000 * 0.1) = $100
And you’re concluded with “SEE? NO NEED TO BE ALARMED, YOUR TOTAL VESTED VALUE IS UNCHANGED” (which is true because it actually didn’t) –for the moment.
Now that you’ve been reassured, you walk away, but with one eyebrow up.
**-Now comes the fun part!! -The part they (the pink sheet companies) KNEW all along but didn’t tell YOU. (in some cases, neither did your broker)
*After the split, thus Bringing .0001 per share to now .1 per share, Guess what? THAT company has (knowingly)“Created” their OWN opportunity to fall BACK TO .0001/Share again and take YOUR MONEY.
(This doesn’t necessarily MEAN that’s WHY they do it, but it sure as hell OPENS the opportunity FOR it))
Meaning, your current 1000 shares, worth $100 when 1000 was valued at .1/share, are NOW worth a NEW value of 0.1 cents (10 cents) !!! -because your 1000 shares are now valued at .0001/share,.
Thus, your initial $100 investment is now worth 10 cents!!
The Pink sheet companies keep “$99.90” of YOUR honest investment and leaves YOU with 10 cents of it.
And want to know what else? –THIS IS LEGAL!!! -Embedded in some clause behind which the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), underwrites
Pink Sheets companies can do R/S whenever they feel a need to do so!
Does this refer to the company in questions? YOU DECIDE!
-AND as you can see, they make out like fat rats each time they do an R/S on YOUR money.
THEN later (After the smoke clears) they’ll do a PR (promo BS) and here comes MORE investors and AFTER the monies pour in from investors, hooked by some “BS” forward thinking comments / remarks, they do another R/S as defined above, making out like even Fatter Rats and on and on.
And those Con artists behind those Pink Sheet companies retire wealthy without ever producing anything better than a ball point pen used to write deposits slips for the monies they Bank-Roll from YOU.
If you want to chance it again, you must now re-Purchase the quantity of shares you had before the R/S with hope the PPS will rise enough to flip and recover your losses... if ever..
And this really sucks.... Bad...
CHART of FFGO TRADE ACTIVITIES for 06/02/2008
Compared to the comments and charts of post;
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=29699037
The above chart is relatively small in the number of trading today –LOL!
Someone must have realized they’re being watched –LOL!
(pssssst wonder what happened to all the “9,000,000” blocks of trades that occurred one right after the other –LOL!)
Welp,, anywho,… >=^}
Although I’m no longer a shareholder…. No wait….um….let me rephrase that,.. I’m no longer a “Bag Holder”, I’ll still pop in from time to time to see what’s up.. how’s the PPS doing… and what not…
But most importantly, I love reading all your posts ..=)
Yeah I know… I know….I know… I need to get out more….>8^}
On the other hand, regarding today’s trading activity, it may be a mere coincidence.
OR, a state of shock after realizing that we shareholders are (and have become) a lot smarter than once assumed –LOL!,
Yeah you might say,,,, we shareholders “CHART” your every moves >8^}…. Pun definitely intended -LOL!
But just in case they think our discovery of unusual trading practices was “accidental”, by the end on this week, I’ll be posting all trades that occurred throughout “THIS WEEK” so that we all can do a comparison..>8^}
(Damit, what if they make a fool out of me by jumping the PPS to $1 -LOL!)
LOL I like being made that kind of a fool -LOL!
I’d like to see them try it –LOL….just once -LOL!!
But through it all, I still have hope…
--ER In the company’s progress…at some point……I………..hope……….
GREAT EXPLOSIVE “PR” COMING!!!! SIT TIGHT!!
-LOL!!
It’s now after market closing and still no PR –LOL!
Oh an um,, last week’s pumpers boasted THIS WEEK as the week of change.
Welp!, with this being the 1st day of “THIS WEEK”, Here are all the trading that took place TODAY!!
READ and WEEP –LOL!
However, what did occur? –LOL! PPS got lower -LOL!
Actually,, this "IS" the week,, if you’re a flipper or a Shorter -LOL! -SO I guess there was "some" truth to it -LOL!
And um,,,, what time is NOW showing on your watches?? and counting?? And still no so called explosive PR? -LOL!….. figures… -LOL!
LIVE AND LEARN -LOL!
On where oh where has that PR--- gone,,
On Where oh where could it beeeee -LOL!
So let me guess, if it gets too late,, pumpers will boast today’s “espected” PR to be posted by tomorrow –LOL!
Then by the end of tomorrow, they’ll boast the PR for the following day –LOL!....And on and on and on –LOL!
Then sometime after 2016 they'll say "SEE I TOLD YOU SO" -LOL!
( Wondering if “PR” really means.. Pumper’s Rampage -LOL! )
By the way,, “WHO” said we’re getting a PR this week?? If at all! –LOL!
ADCS?? Or the PUMPERS!! -LOL!
If ADCS didn’t say it,, it was never SAID!!
If ADCS didn’t DO it,, it was never DONE!!
If ADCS didn’t Wright it, it was never WRITTEN!!
Welp!! I guess the pumpers got PUMPED…….. again -LOL!
I’ll stress once again,, ADCS will come around (eventually), but on THEIR OWN time.. NOT PUMPER TIME –LOL!
-And YES,, I’ll be buying more shares AND YES, at these prices –LOL!
AND If I’m lucky,, I’ll flip them by summer of 2010 –LOL!……………….. OOPS!!!
>8^}
AND –YES, this is all my own opinion and should be taken lightly
>8^}………>6^}……….>8^}
Missing chart mentioned in post 10494
These buys are from MAY 30, 29, 28 (had I'd gone back further, each day would appear as these listed)
Just these last three days show a hell of a lot of PIG action!
and this is how its generally been for just the last few weeks, yet alone since before that.
and by these historical lists, clearly showing what actually took place, one can clearly see that BY NOW, with all things being ligit, the PPS should be at least into the .0003 (and that's putting it lightly)
seems like shares are dumped into the market as fast as they're bought off the market.
appears to be a stock Milking scheme to me.. (I hope I'm wrong)
What ever the case, I've had enough! I'M OUT!
You all can stay and I wish you well..
Maybe I'm making a bad move by leaving
Maybe next week (or later) this stock will make a fool of my leave, but, historical data says otherwise.
But I wont leade this forum =)
I'll pop in from time to time to see what's up!
and I like reading your comments =)
-AND, all that was stated is of my own opinion and should be taken lightly, if at all.... >=^}