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Guess you mean "hurt" in the sense of you realizing the lungs are suffering a bit, and not in the pain sense. My being asthmatic since childhood smoking whatever was always an extreme folly for me, but gee whiz golly it was sooo much fun at times. And at my height i never had to worry much about drug tests. Also, never got into into anywhere near the extent you have become so expert. Just what i or others grew is all.
LOL, it's a bit weird that like so many things again i'm feeling against the tide. I do indulge maybe once a month when it fits with the company. And a tiny bit off and on, just to get rid of the junk leaf hanging in a closet. Can't throw it out.
Thanks heaps for all your input.
Ease the anti-LIV energy in which he did so much good and worthwhile work, back to golf. Super GOOD to see!!
PS: hmm, ok so there was a 3-time winner factor i missed too, eh.
Is super great to see Rory come good again. Congrats to all who had two of Rory saved. Or, lol, who
used their last Rory here because Scottie wasn't playing. I gambled on him just a bit too early. grr, lol,
brooklyn13, No it is not a start to anything. It is simply a continuation of the objective and relatively unemotional manner in which i have always looked at the Israel situation here. You can stuff your subjective assertions to what myself or others here may be looking forward to. To answer your latest
"Well, that’s a start, I’m sure everyone here is looking forward to the time when you pronounce various screeds as “anti-Zionist b.s”. Unless I’ve missed it already.
P - In other pop culture news, the Israeli contestant in the just completed Eurovision competition won the popular vote in 14 countries, including Australia. As I’m sure you know, there was a move to have her banned from the competition.
P - So maybe the idea of worldwide revulsion at all things Israel has been a tad overstated? If you’ve been fooled about this by social media, it’s understandable, with the emphasis on “you’ve been fooled”"
there, i don't expect it would ever happen as i don't expect i would ever see "anti-Zionist b.s." posted here.
No, i didn't know about the Eurovision situation, though it doesn't surprise me there would have been a move to ban them. Just as i'm not surprised to read of the rejection of Russia's appeal against the Olympic ban .. https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-olympic-committee-banned-violating-olympic-charter-paris-2024/ .. they are under.
And no, i don't believe "So maybe the idea of worldwide revulsion at all things Israel has been a tad overstated? If you’ve been fooled about this by social media, it’s understandable, with the emphasis on “you’ve been fooled”" has ever been overstated.
In fact i've never seen it stated at all in the sense you mean it. There is worldwide revulsion at Israel's massive overreaction to the Hamas atrocity of October 7. There is much more of that worldwide than there is "revulsion of all things Israel". As there should be. You yourself, and others, have commented on the fact that relations between some Arab countries and Israel have seemingly had Israeli massacres of Palestinians exorcised from them. Relatively anyway. Obviously, in that, "revulsion of all things Israel" is not paramount, even in Arab countries where many would more expect it more to be.
In the sense you mean it, there never has been worldwide revulsion of all things Israel.
Am sure there are individuals worldwide. Even big and small groups worldwide, who are antisemitic just because they
hate Jews. Course there would be individuals and or groups worldwide who hate Americans too. Wouldn't there be.
Your constant victimhood position is a fail.
brooklyn13, You hear the voices of the few that feed your Israeli victimhood. You cherry pick and accuse us of doing what you do. You cling to your irrelevant whataboutisms:
"So, you’re not hearing Biden being called “genocide Joe”, because of US aid to Israel? That’s happening at places far removed from campuses, yet derive from the same precepts. The new twist on war casualties of calling them part of a genocide happens on this board, too.
P - Did America commit a genocide in Vietnam or Iraq? I still haven’t heard Russia’s war with Ukraine called a genocide. Was Britain accused of genocide in WWII? Assad? China? Crickets. See what I’m getting at?"
And, you still have not stated publicly what you would say face-to-face to Barak. Or what you would have said to Peres. As far as my too many replies to you about the mess you support, that's the bottom line for me. You reach, you grasp. You clone to every tiny bitch
brooklyn13, Putting the genocide debate aside, your support of indiscriminate killing
of many thousands in retaliation for the murder of some 130 is again noted.
P - As to population density, it is accurate to say Gaza is "incredible densely populated"
despite your misleading claim you don't understand why it is claimed to be so:
[...] Both Barak and the late Peres condemned Zionist policy yet you will not.
That clearly places you on the extreme right on the Israel question.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174341474
you can put your bloodied hands upon in posts we put up.
Your refusal to say what you would say to those two says it all about you.
And since it remains a waste of time spending much if any more energy in engaging with you, see again
brooklyn13, Only a narrowly opinionated Israel supporter would label the late Shimon Peres and Ehud Barak as media sources. I assume many alternate sites would have similar quotes, used to support position. It is not a case of confirming biases, but a case of supporting arguments. What is your position on that? You remain comafied (don't know if that is an accepted word) when it comes to having an opinion on the quotes of Peres and Barak given you, yet you accuse me of being no good at considering different points of view.
"You’re an expert at finding media sources that confirm your biases. You are absolutely no good at considering that different points of view have any merit.
P - During the course of these discussions, I have conceded that Netanyahu belongs in jail as do the WB settlers. You’ve yet to concede there’s any validity in anyone else’s opinion.
P - Whatever. It’s not worth the effort."
You have not validly argued against either of their comments. In fact you do nothing more than ignore them. Every one of your opinions have been dealt with here yet you accuse myself and others of ignoring your view, while you stolidly ignore all of ours. All while you ignore the different points of view of Peres and Barak. In other words you unarguably project. As a tangent see .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174307924 . And there is nothing in this as suggesting you are a Trump supporter. The thought i just had was strictly on the fact that you also have projected here.
When did Peres make his critical comments i wonder (not sure if i missed it earlier), so searched "what year did Shimon Peres become critical of Israel anti-Palestinian state policy" . Note: there is nothing at all "expert at finding media sources that confirm your biases" in posing a question as that. You apparently have nothing left but to attack the messenger, and that's perfectly understandable since you had no moral or ethical or humane base for your superficial positions from the start. Anyway the obviously inexpert search came up with this one, and i don't know yet if this one result of the FireFox search has gives me an answer to the question asked, to this point i've read only the first few paragraphs of:
Israel’s last founding father .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174313830 .
See also again:
brooklyn13, Hamas has said more than once something at least close to that they would not release all their hostages until there was a permanent ceasefire. Their alleged 130 hostages still remain leverage for them. Why would anyone make that demand except to get a rise out of people like you. Or for personal political reasons. And how many Palestinians are in Israel jails, many for as petty a crime as throwing rocks. Over 9000.
Again - still - to your whinge that you have never seen (sod knows why you would expect it or even worse why you would say it when you have said you don't visit here often), we have never seen any answer from you to a simple question:
brooklyn13, Figured that. And that's one overriding good reason for you not to have attacked the board and individual posters as you consistently have.
[...]Lastly, personally i perceive you as being over protective of Israel for the same reasons as millions of others would undoubtedly see you the same way. For the same reasons i'm sure Ehud Barak would see you as being that. Have you ever asked yourself why you could (or would) never say candidly here what you would say face-to-face to that Israeli who said if he were Palestinian he would have joined a terrorist group. Must've asked you that question some 3-4 times. Yet only silence.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174276709
[...]
That is, Peres thinks that the Likud Party and its partners are living in a fool’s paradise if they believe they can annex the whole of Palestinian territory without getting the Palestinians as Israeli citizens eventually. And then, Peres says, no more Israel as a Jewish state.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174298978
[...]
Reminder: Related: Ehud Barak: the military mastermind Israel loves to hate
[...]Israel's yearning for experienced military leaders brought him back to political life after the 2006 Lebanon war and he became minister of defence. He seems to have a feel for what motivates his enemies and was widely quoted as saying: "If I were a Palestinian I would have joined a terrorist organisation." Barak also stated during a US television interview last year that he would "probably" strive for nuclear weapons if he were in Iran's position.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173530549
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174249868
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174264881
April, 2024 - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174308544
Yep, i knew about the lack of lung cancer connection and the research suggesting "some suppression of cancer cells
by compounds in marijuana so the negative effects of the bad stuff may be compensated for by one of the cannabinoids."
Aside: Bang there is the weakness of my Firefox spell checker, a wiggly red line
under cannabinoids. A common word it tells me should be cannabis. Ouch, eh.
My comment was solely about tar, and have been settled on this position
Smoke from marijuana combustion has been shown to contain many of the same toxins,
irritants, and carcinogens as tobacco smoke.6-10 Although not as carcinogenic
as tobacco smoke,9 marijuana smoke contains toxins and carcinogens similar to
those in tobacco smoke.10
https://www.lung.org/quit-smoking/smoking-facts/health-effects/marijuana-and-lung-health
until reading it has been changed. Mine was just meant to suggest
smoking too much of it over a long period is not good for the lungs.
Actually yesterday on making the comment i was thinking of asking you if the medical benefits
of using it are gained as much by eating it as an alternative to smoking it. With
all your experience in the area, am interested to know your take on that.
Was good to read that of yours again as it's been awhile,
just would rather see more eat it than smoke it, is all.
LOL Didn't consider at all that Michigan comment could be a feint, was just a thought.
And agree totally, Trump's MAGA munsters are the only ones who could see a faint as a feint was a good idea.
LOL they have three weeks recovered and her food is as good as it ever was. In case you are
really concerned i visually inspect it before eating, to pick out any bugs and/or worms present.
A snack is a snack. Surely others here don't only eat a standard three meals a day.
Agree totally on auto correct, had it for a day or so, years ago. Hated it.
Fox News sink preemptively to new lows -- Alvin Bragg 'Counting On' Michael Cohen Lying During Trump Trial—Attorney
"Matt Bevan again -- The man who destroyed his life to try to put Trump in jail | If You’re Listening"
Trump's lawyer played the wrong video. Merchan says, 'Could you please
read the transcript before playing the video.
Published May 11, 2024 at 12:39 PM EDT
Updated May 11, 2024 at 10:11 PM EDT
VIDEO - Donald Trump's Attorney Makes A Mistake In Court
By Natalie Venegas
Weekend Reporter
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg is "counting on" Michael Cohen lying during former President Donald Trump's criminal hush money trial, according to attorney and Fox News legal analyst Gregg Jarrett on Saturday.
Cohen, Trump's former lawyer and fixer, is set to testify in the high-profile trial on Monday, which will determine whether the former president falsified business records over payments, allegedly facilitated by Cohen, to former adult film star Stormy Daniels to keep an alleged affair that happened in 2006 secret before the 2016 presidential election, as alleged in a criminal indictment.
Prosecutors led by Bragg allege the $130,000 payment was part of a scheme to stop potentially damaging stories about Trump from becoming public. Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee for the 2024 election, has denied any wrongdoing and that the affair ever happened. The former president has pleaded not guilty to all 34 charges against him in the case.
In a Fox News opinion column published Saturday titled, "The prosecution's star witness against Trump, Michael Cohen, is a chronic and habitual liar" Jarrett, a former defense attorney and author who is also known for his pro-Trump stances, discussed Cohen's expected testimony as he claimed the district attorney is "counting on" Cohen to lie.
"As we enter the fourth week of testimony, none of the witnesses called thus far have connected Trump to any criminal wrongdoing. Apparently, Cohen is the prosecution's only witness who can attempt to do that. He'll lie, of course. It's a given. And that's what Bragg is counting on," he wrote.
[...]
"After showing various posts that Cohen made on X, comments Cohen made on TikTok .. https://www.newsweek.com/topic/tiktok .. and interviews Cohen has given about Trump, Blanche argues, 'This is not a man that needs protection from the gag order,'" Fung wrote on X.
Meanwhile, John J. Perlstein, a Los Angeles-based litigator, previously told Newsweek that the Trump team's attacks during Daniels' testimony earlier in the week did not work and they might also fail against Cohen ..https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-michael-cohen-stormy-daniels-hush-money-trial-manhattan-new-york-1899559 .
"I don't know whether or not Cohen being liked will really matter when it comes to this witness. I think the issue will come down to whether or not he is believed," he said. "The defense attorneys attempting to portray him as despicable could certainly backfire if he is credible with respect to the pertinent facts. I tend to think he will be credible when it comes to the information relative to the charges against Trump, who is also disliked in my humble opinion."
https://www.newsweek.com/alvin-bragg-counting-michael-cohen-lying-trump-trial-gregg-jarrett-1899574
Why would any outfit of reasonable reputation publish Jarrett's dirt. Perlstein has it right.
Was just a friend of theirs who sells luxury cars. He gave them a ticket each. Free drinks, meal and $250 to bet with. I've met
him twice now, he is some kind of ex special forces, i didn't get detail. Quiet guy, who might have a bit of a PTSD problem.
Yes, it would have been catered.
Wondered that myself. Could be the Times going for balance.
Not big on sausage, unless they are solidly good ones. Still, it looks delicious. And the leftover bit is key. Makes life much easier if you only have to microwave to prepare. I just snacked on a little spaghetti bolognese one of the friends who became ill at the races gave me. She enjoys cooking and giving takeaway containers of it away.
Aside: The thing that bugs me the most about the Firefox spell check is that many
ordinary every-day words aren't in it. Like bolognese. Hmm - check - ok it is one of those ..
https://thewest.com.au/lifestyle/food/bolognaise-the-australian-way-ng-ya-299166 .
Fair enough, i take that word back. Still there are others.
Absolutely right. A tolerance for any drug always develops if used over time. And most
importantly, which many forget to consider, all drugs affect different people differently.
Not that i have seen either. Know only that three people i know who went all fell ill. I think they were in one of those private enclosures, even a room don't know. Most, if not all of the time. Will ask. I thought it may have been being in a large crowd, he said, well we weren't that much. I did ask them if they think they might have been run down. She said no. Good thought, i'll ask if they know if any others got sick on the day.
"...college campuses, where a combination of students, anarchists and overtly pro-Hamas activists have ginned up disruptions" Exactly. It's a combo.
no "assassinations of Robert F. Kennedy and the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr." Exactly. Thank goodness.
"Simply put, the performative displays on college campuses have not drawn mass support. Despite near-nonstop coverage, the Israel-Gaza war ranks far down on the list of voter concerns." Exactly.
"Furthermore, “A large majority (81%) of students support holding protesters accountable, agreeing with the notion that those who destroyed property or vandalized or illegally occupied buildings should be held responsible.”" Exactly. How good is that stat!
"Beyond the convention, Democrats can go on offense when it comes to crime. The Democratic Party is not the one whose presidential candidate faces 88 criminal charges (and has been held in contempt twice). Democrats didn’t mount a violent insurrection (which Republicans falsely called “legitimate political discourse”) resulting in multiple deaths, dozens of injured law enforcement officers and charges against more than 1,200 people. And Democrats did not sink a tough, bipartisan border security bill. Exactly.
"Republicans, having fanned violence, demonized the FBI, insulted prosecutors and impugned judges, have the law-and-order problem. (Some of them also opposed awarding gold medals to officers who protected them on Jan. 6, 2021.)" Exactly.
"Former president Donald Trump wants to pardon the violent felons implicated in Jan. 6. Trump also openly contemplates military action against civilians, mass roundups of immigrants and weaponization of the Justice Department against his enemies. They’ve become the anti-rule of law party. " Exactly.
"By contrast, the Biden Justice Department dutifully has prosecuted Biden’s son Hunter Biden, Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) and Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Tex.). You cannot conceive of a Trump Justice Department enforcing the law against its own people." Exactly.
"In short, Democrats should embrace the “law and order” label, especially if Trump gets convicted of multiple felonies." Exactly. Even if he isn't.
Spot on, Jennifer Rubin. "Democracy Dies in Darkness " Spot on.
Away From the Confines of a Courtroom, Trump Rallies Beachside at the Jersey Shore
"LOL I'm catching bits from his rally in NJ tonight. I'm not sure he hasn't completely lost touch with reality. 😬"
LOL, if you saw a hat like Zorax joked about, not on a head, i reckon you would stomp on it. I would.
Former President Donald J. Trump held a rally in Wildwood, N.J., on Saturday, declaring that his campaign would “officially play” in a state he has lost twice by double digits.
Former President Donald J. Trump during a campaign rally in Wildwood, N.J., on Saturday. Doug Mills/The New York Times
By Michael Gold
Reporting from Wildwood, N.J.
May 11, 2024
After a long and often tense week in his criminal trial in Manhattan, former President Donald J. Trump on Saturday took part in a time-honored ritual enjoyed by countless New Yorkers in need of a break: He went to the shore.
Sandwiched between the boardwalk and the Atlantic Ocean, Mr. Trump stood in front of tens of thousands of people at a rally on the beach in Wildwood, N.J., where he largely repeated the same criticisms of President Biden that have characterized his stump speech in recent months.
Fresh from court, Mr. Trump insisted that his case in Manhattan, on charges that he falsified business records related to a hush-money payment, was a “Biden show trial,” even though there is no evidence to suggest that Mr. Biden has been involved in the case.
[Insert: One of Trump's specialties is making evidence-free statements. Along with his lying, his cheating contractors
as well as on his wife, and his thumbing his nose at any hint that America could be considered a rule-of-law country]
Mr. Trump railed against pro-Palestinian protests on college campuses, vowed to crack down on immigration and repeated his false claims that Democrats stole the 2020 election from him.
But if Mr. Trump’s speech largely consisted of what has become his standard fare, the setting stood out. Though New Jersey has voted for Democratic presidential candidates in every election since 1992, and Mr. Trump lost the state by double-digit margins in both 2016 and 2020, he insisted that he could win there in November.
“We’re expanding the electoral map, because we are going to officially play in the state of New Jersey,” Mr. Trump said to a packed crowd on the beach. “We’re going to win the state of New Jersey.”
Mr. Trump, who once owned casinos in Atlantic City, N.J., and who often spends summers at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J., has been publicly bullish on his chances in New Jersey for months. Political experts, and even some of his advisers, are skeptical.
[...who ran a number of casinos into bankruptcy in..., would be more accurate.]
Still, parts of the state are deeply conservative, including the area around Wildwood, a boardwalk town on the southern end of the Jersey Shore and a beach destination popular with working-class families. Many visitors come from Pennsylvania, a battleground state that backed Mr. Trump in 2016 but swung to Mr. Biden in 2020.
Mr. Trump’s rally, held shortly before the start of the summer season, brought hordes of people to the boardwalk, where many of the vendors who usually hawk an array of novelty items filled the front of their stores with Trump-related T-shirts and hats. Supporters stretched out on blankets and dabbed on sunscreen hours ahead of Mr. Trump’s arrival.
[That fits. Today Trump was hawking his pride and joy novelty item. Yeah, you guessed it.]
Against the backdrop of classic Americana, Mr. Trump repeated his typical criticism that Mr. Biden’s economic policies were hurting the middle class. With an amusement park operating rides in the background, he insisted that only he could preserve the summer shore tradition.
“The choice for New Jersey and Pennsylvania is simple,” Mr. Trump said, telling supporters to vote for him if they wanted “lower costs, higher income and more weekends down at the shore.” (The area’s locals usually say “down the shore,” but judging by the cheers of the crowd, the point was well received.)
The rally was a stark contrast to the scene at the Manhattan courthouse, where proceedings are more sober and Mr. Trump’s comments are limited to remarks to reporters before he enters and leaves the courtroom.
At his rally, Mr. Trump largely built on statements he has made in those limited appearances. He once again criticized Mr. Biden for warning Israel that he would not supply the country with weapons if it launched a major ground offensive, and he made his most explicit approval yet of Israel’s military strategy.
“I support Israel’s right to win its war on terror,” he told the crowd. “Is that OK? I don’t know. I don’t know if that’s good or bad politically. I don’t care.”
[Ho Hum, yet another Trump lie of giant magnitude.]
The rally in New Jersey was only Mr. Trump’s third since his trial began last month. Last week, he held back-to-back events in Wisconsin and Michigan, two battleground states expected to be more critical than New Jersey in the November election.
Mr. Trump, who is bound by a gag order in the case that keeps him from commenting on witnesses and jurors, limited his criticism of the case on Saturday. The judge in the case has found him in contempt, fining him $10,000 for violating the order and warning of possible jail time.
Michael Gold is a political correspondent for The Times covering the campaigns of Donald
J. Trump and other candidates in the 2024 presidential elections. More about Michael Gold
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/11/us/politics/trump-rally-new-jersey.html
Hope there is no substance of feint to misdirect by Republicans in any comments as:
"In Michigan, some of the state’s operatives and Republican lawmakers have grown concerned about a lack of an
operation there, according to four people familiar with the matter, even as they feel generally bullish about the state."
I'm not even suggesting there could be any attempt to build false Dem confidence, as all the evidence points to them being true.
Just saying i hope there is no Republican election hi-jinks going on in comments as that, as there would be in other places.
That said, the stench of death can be sweet sometimes.
conix, You know where intentionally repeated smart-assed violations take you.
Matt Bevan again -- The man who destroyed his life to try to put Trump in jail | If You’re Listening
"Att. Zorax: Trump Trial Week 4: Testy and Explicit, Then Calm Before the Cohen Storm
Guarantee you will get some valuable reminders from it. It's a top 14min. Bevan is good.
Related: Trump Is Guilty of ‘Numerous’ Felonies, Prosecutor Who Resigned Says
March, 2022 - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=168352179
.. which is linked into ..
Donald Trump Revelations Put Alvin Bragg in 'Untenable Position'—Lawyers
June, 2022 - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=169149864
Says a guy who has done well out of Apple. Guessing that's you. i can't even
bite the damn things. LOL Aside: lay down about 10:30am, now almost 2pm.
We all know, the less the better. For all sorts of reasons. One best lesson for kids would
be for them to spend some times with once wayward adults whose lungs are now stuffed.
South African anti-migrant ‘vigilantes’ register as party for next year’s polls
"South Africa: Death toll edges to nearly 400 after devastating floods
"‘A True South African Giant’: Tributes for Desmond Tutu, a Force for Harmony "
Operation Dudula changes tactics from evictions and violence, with plans to fight elections on platform of expelling foreigners
Related: Can Jacob Zuma emerge as kingmaker in South Africa’s election?
Zuma’s new MK party is gaining in polls while ANC support slips. But is the former
president still as influential outside the ruling party?
By Crystal Orderson Published On 8 May 20248 May 2024
KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa – Jacob Gedleyihlekisa Zuma is a divisive figure. For some South Africans, the controversial former president is a liberator and saviour for millions of poor people. For others, he is corrupt and ill-fit to lead.
P - Despite having been at the forefront of some of the worst corruption and mismanagement scandals in post-apartheid history, the 82-year-old has returned ..https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/18/jacob-zumas-nine-lives-how-south-africas-ex-president-keeps-coming-back .. to the political spotlight time and again.
[...]She fears Zuma’s tendency to play the victim – as he has done numerous times since being fired as deputy president under President Thabo Mbeki in 2005 – may hinder the country’s advancement and perpetuate harmful ideologies.
P - “He gets away with the victim mentality and blames Ramaphosa for his own failings and the ANC has shot itself in the foot; they supported him for so long, no matter how unethical or corrupt he was,” Ngoasheng added.
P - Now, with Zuma poised to play a big role in yet another election cycle, his supporters are with him all the way, while those reeling from the effects of his last term in office are nervous at the prospect of having him in a position of power yet again.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/8/can-jacob-zuma-emerge-as-kingmaker-in-south-africas-election
Simon Allison in Johannesburg
Tue 26 Sep 2023 15.30 AEST
Last modified on Tue 26 Sep 2023 17.53 AEST
An Operation Dudula protest in Johannesburg in July. As unemployment and inequality in South Africa soar, calls for mass deportation of foreigners have spread. Photograph: Gallo/Getty
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An anti-migrant vigilante organisation in South Africa has registered as a political party and plans to contest seats in next year’s general elections.
Operation Dudula, whose name means “to force out” in Zulu, wants all foreign nationals who are in the country unofficially to be deported.
The party, which first emerged in Johannesburg’s Soweto township after riots in 2021 .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/14/vigilante-groups-form-south-africa-tackle-looting-violence , claims to have widespread support, with a formal presence in seven of South Africa’s nine provinces. It claims to be planning to stand candidates in 1,500 of the country’s 4,468 voting districts.
Many Operation Dudula followers have faced allegations of hate speech and physical violence. They have staged protests outside embassies, turned people away outside hospitals to prevent foreign nationals from accessing state medical services, and conducted door-to-door searches of businesses in poorer areas demanding to see identity documents.
In August, Philani Gumede, a 36-year-old from Durban, was convicted of hate speech .. https://ewn.co.za/2023/05/09/operation-dudula-opts-to-become-a-political-party .. after sending a voice-note to members calling on them to evict foreigners from businesses in the city. Nomalungelo Ntshangase, a regional court prosecutor, told the court that this had led directly to xenophobic attacks and looting.
In 2022, Operation Dudula followers camped outside Kalafong hospital .. https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2022-09-01-operation-dudula-calls-off-protests-at-kalafong-hospital-after-fruitful-meeting-with-health-minister/ .. in Atteridgeville, a suburb of South Africa’s administrative capital, Pretoria, preventing people, including pregnant women, from entering the hospital.
Police at a Operation Dudula demonstration outside Kalafong hospital in Pretoria, where protesters stopped foreigners, including pregnant women, from entering. Photograph: Gallo/Getty
“People were turned away by the protesters based on their appearance and accent,” said Sibusiso Ndlovu, a health promotion supervisor for Médecins Sans Frontières. “They have even demanded that critically ill patients who are migrants must be ‘unplugged’ and taken out.”
Civil society groups have taken the party to court over unlawful evictions and conducting unauthorised citizenship checks in public. A court date has not yet been set.
The Operation Dudula party’s spokesperson, Isaac Lesole, said the transition from civil movement to political party would mean a tempering of tactics.
“We want to demilitarise Operation Dudula. We know the military angle did not appeal to a lot of people,” he said. “Now we’ve taken a new posture, we need to guarantee that we can still achieve a lot without people being militants and killing or kicking things. As a political party, we are governed by a different set of rules.”
But its core ideology would not change, he said. “We view illegal immigrants as criminals, and they must go back to their countries.”
About 3.95 million immigrants live in South Africa, according to 2022 estimates .. https://issafrica.s3.amazonaws.com/site/uploads/sar-53.pdf .. by the Institute for Security Studies (ISS). However, there is no such thing as an “illegal foreigner” in South Africa, as its constitution – widely hailed .. https://www.justice.gov.za/constitution/docs/25thAnniversary.html#:~:text=It%20is%20widely%20acknowledged%20not,social%20relations%20in%20South%20Africa. .. as one of the most progressive in the world – confers limited rights upon all people within the country’s borders, regardless of nationality or birthplace.
Operation Dudula has its roots in the riots .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/13/troops-deployed-in-south-africa-amid-violence-rarely-seen-in-the-history-of-our-democracy .. that swept across KwaZulu-Natal and Gauteng provinces in June 2021. In the absence of police, some citizens banded together to protect shops and businesses from thieves.
A man shuts his shop in Johannesburg’s Alexandra township as an Operation Dudula march passes. The group targets foreign-owned shops. Photograph: Michele Spatari/AFP/Getty
“You saw a lot of communities starting to self-protect. They started cordoning off malls, and protecting them from being looted. Some of these organisations also felt emboldened to have more operations, under the auspices of ‘anti-crime’,” said Lizette Lancaster, an ISS researcher.
Lancaster said the chronic failures of the state in South Africa .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/africa , which has high rates of corruption, unemployment and violence, created the space for the party to thrive.
[That's a shout-out to all anti-government people. A strong state helps.]
“South Africans have been trying [to hold the state accountable] through protests, but are not getting anywhere,” she said.
“It is almost natural for people to look for another scapegoat. The most obvious scapegoat would be our brothers and sisters that have come here to look for better opportunities.”
Although not expected to win any outright majorities, the fractured nature of South African politics means that small parties can influence the formation of coalition governments – and demand major concessions in return. The current mayor of Johannesburg is from the Al Jama’ah, a fringe Islamist party .. https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/opinionista/2020-11-19-al-jama-ah-the-small-islamic-political-party-with-a-narrow-vision-and-big-ambitions/ .. that won just one of the city’s 135 wards.
Established parties are struggling to respond to Operation Dudula, with seemingly contradictory messages.
In April, President Cyril Ramaphosa .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/cyril-ramaphosa .. called it a “vigilante-like force” taking “illegal actions” against foreigners. “These things often get out of hand,” he said. “They always mutate into wanton violence against other people.”
However, with the ruling African National Congress seeing its support eroded .. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/14/the-guardian-view-on-south-africa-the-anc-is-losing-its-grip .. in recent years by a series of corruption scandals, rising inequality, high unemployment and violent crime, it has also begun to echo the rhetoric of Operation Dudula in a bid to shore up its electoral chances.
An activist pickets the Human Rights Commission in Johannesburg in protest at the surge of xenophobia and vigilantism in South Africa. Photograph: Michele Spatari/AFP/Getty
Last year an ANC spokesperson, Pule Mabe, told the Mail & Guardian newspaper .. https://mg.co.za/politics/2022-04-01-dudula-vigilante-group-has-the-anc-stamp-of-approval/ .. that Operation Dudula was affirming the views of the ANC. “These [foreign] people come here to sell drugs, seat [live] here illegally, undermine our sovereignty, create illegal business.”
Julius Malema, leader of the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF), a militant leftwing party, said in a speech .. https://ewn.co.za/2023/07/28/criminals-in-cahoots-with-ministers-purport-sa-to-be-xenophobic-malema .. in July: “South Africans are not xenophobic. [Operation Dudula] is a group of criminals who are in cahoots with some ministers. They are small boys who must be put in their place.”
Desperate Zimbabweans risk police or crocodiles in bid to reach South Africa
Read more > https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/feb/08/desperate-zimbabweans-face-police-or-crocodiles-in-bid-to-reach-south-africa
However, in a sign of how politically expedient xenophobia has become in South Africa, even the ostensibly pan-Africanist EFF has campaigned for restaurants to employ more South Africans. Malema visited restaurants .. https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/malema-visits-restaurants-in-midrand-to-check-employment-ratios/ .. last year demanding to see the identity documents of workers as he demanded businesses hire locals.
Amir Sheikh, spokesperson for the African Diaspora Forum, said: “At the end of the day, Dudula will not be the only party that is right wing or anti-immigrant, even including the ruling party, which is leaning towards the right wing.”
Many foreigners are returning home with their families, or moving to more friendly countries, although that is in part due to high crime rates and economic decay, said Sheikh. “Even the locals with the means to travel out of the country are doing so.”
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2023/sep/26/south-africa-anti-migrant-vigilante-operation-dudula-registers-as-party-2024-elections
hearing those names Ameritrade and Scottrade brought back memories, was never into it like you are though. 20 trades
in 2 mins. LOL, nope. I remember knowing something about the the morning and evening bid appearances you mentioned.
Our lungs weren't designed to work better with any of our pollutants. That
includes tar from cigarettes, and even more tar per ounce from marijuana.
Cuts both ways. Sure does. A new friend of mine i said to about a month ago, sooner or later you're gonna have to give up bonging every day. He's a gambler too. And not as big as your friend, but a big guy and into losing weight. They walk every day as part of that deal.
Three weeks ago he and his partner were given a ticket to a big race meeting at Rosehill. All food and drink free, plus $250 in each of their TAB account to bet with. Day before yesterday he had taken it to just over $1000. Lucky so far.
Anyway, they both were sick after the day, he with a lung disease, she the flu. He went through, on dr. advice, four lots of antibiotics. The two days ago, i saw them for the first time since and learned he's been going to a lung guy every three months. He nags about my slot machine stupidity too.
It was this day they were given tickets for .. https://www.australianturfclub.com.au/2024-sydney-autumn-racing-carnival-hospitality/ .. April 20. The guy who gave them the tickets was there too, and also got sick.
During my wondering just then i learned HBO Max has changed to Max ..
https://www.fastcompany.com/90901410/what-was-hbo-max-thinking-three-branding-experts-decode-the-rebrand-blunder-of-the-year .
Oh and my story about Schwab is that since my loss in penny stocks and how i ended up here, i had $100 left over in an account with an outfit i forget the name of, Schwab must have taken it over a few years later as since whenever, i religiously, all those years, receive a monthly account note from Schwab. Must be over 10 years. I've thought of retrieving it but couldn't see any contact number in Australia so have just left it. According to what i see they haven't charged a cent for holding it.
Ah, had the link, too late to edit so was waiting for you ..
Mark Thompson, the former chief executive of The New York Times and director-general of the BBC, will be the next leader of CNN, the network announced Wednesday, taking the reins of the renowned global news organization at one of the most pivotal times in its 43-year history.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/30/media/cnn-ceo-mark-thompson/index.html . Thanks.
Hey, don't forget Murdoch is a Yank now. We don't want him back.
"In order for Bill Maher to sell his show to CNN he had to become more critical of Democrats, besides the BBC now is in charge with its newest CEO. Just think Fox is owned by by conservative Australian Rupert Murdock, and CNN is the newest baby Fox."
And i still don't understand your the BBC in charge yet, suggesting a connection between CNN and the BBC??
And, zab, surely the baby Fox label is a bit unfair to CNN. Or, do people really see them as that bad now?
Update: Maybe instead of BBC you meant network head in Warner Bros, Discovery is new ..
https://mumbrella.com.au/head-of-networks-departs-warner-bros-discovery-anz-828064 .
I've no idea, zab, just can't see any BBC Maher connection.
Is ‘Real Time With Bill Maher’ New Tonight?
Adam Chitwood
Fri, 10 May 2024 at 11:25 pm GMT+10·2-min read
The talk/variety series “Real Time with Bill Maher,” hosted by Bill Maher, has been running for nearly two decades now, and is showing no signs of slowing down. In fact, HBO has already renewed the series to continue through 2026. So don’t expect Maher to leave airwaves anytime soon.
Fans of the show may be wondering – is “Real Time with Bill Maher” new tonight? Yes, “Real Time” is airing a new episode on Friday, May 10 at 10 p.m. ET/7 p.m. PT.
This week features a one-on-one interview with Eric Schlosser, investigative journalist, author of The New York Times Best Seller “Fast Food Nation,” and stars in the documentary film “Food, Inc.” This week’s panel discussion includes Frank Bruni, contributing writer at The New York Times and best-selling author, whose new book is called “The Age of Grievance”; and Douglas Murray, columnist for the New York Post and author of The New York Times best-selling book “The War on the West.”
Last week’s episode, which is streaming on Max, features a one-on-one interview with Roger Daltrey, Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inductee, co-founder, and frontman for the rock band “The Who.” The panel discussion includes Kellyanne Conway, former senior counselor to President Trump, Fox News contributor, and author of the #1 New York Times Best Seller, “Here’s the Deal: A Memoir”; and Joshua Green, Bloomberg Businessweek national correspondent and author of “The Rebels: Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and the Struggle for a New American Politics.”
More previous episodes of the show are streaming on Max.
The executive producers of “Real Time With Bill Maher” are Bill Maher, Sheila Griffiths, Marc Gurvitz, Dean Johnsen, Billy Martin; co-executive producer, Chris Kelly; producer, Matt Wood; director, Paul Casey.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/real-time-bill-maher-tonight-220000407.html
Well said. Will they ever see the light, i wonder.
Good. Bad. Happy. Sad. That story of you, your friend, his mother and Xoie is one of those that has all four, and more. Though you had mentioned earlier Xoie had arrived from the death of a friend it still helps to feel your connection to Xoie even more. Thanks.
It's always been sad to me that so many have so much trouble talking about so many things. It was sad enough in teaching Personal Development to 14y-old boys in the '80s to see how many, at first, were nervous in talking about their genitals. And after just a couple of lessons after tossing the word penis around a bit it was good to see the giggles quickly disappear. It's like an arm or a leg boys. Just another part of your body. A hang-up so easily done away with. Today when seeing an adult man stand at the end of a long-type urinal facing the corner so no one can see i think, you poor guy, get over it.
Though i know there is more than just damn misguided shame involved in Jess's friends not wanting to talk about her weight loss thing, what the hell. Talk about it, people. Especially as Jess is a friend who wants to talk about it, for her sake at least talk about it.
When she mentioned that decision to her friends, “they told me, ‘We have no interest in this conversation. We do not want to discuss this with you. We don’t agree with your choice,’” she remembers. “I respect their boundaries, but it’s been difficult not to share certain milestones with them or even talk about day-to-day things. It’s been kind of sad and lonely.” These days, she only discusses her weight loss with her doctor and her husband.
As far as Jess respecting their boundaries without knowing more i'd suggest Jess while respecting be open to finding some new friends. There is too much unnecessary sadness and loneliness in this fucking world without your friends not feeling they are able to talk about the fact they may be overweight.
" No One Knows How to Talk About Weight Loss Anymore"
Get over the little stuff, people. Talk to your friends about any fucking thing they feel a need to talk about. Get over yourself. Think about them.
Guarantee that's one easy way for any person to feel better about themself. And it's FREE.
Would be good, for her, if conix could.
Att. Zorax: Trump Trial Week 4: Testy and Explicit, Then Calm Before the Cohen Storm
"Trump's lawyers CRASH AND BURN with failure during trial
"Opinion Trump might not go to jail, but this trial is a close second""
Zorax, ok, i understand more now why you expressed concern with Cohen's talking out. Wish you had told us Cohen was spruiking on TikTok every day, for one, i didn't know. Now, since Merchan has spoken on it, i hope Cohen does what you felt he should do ..
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174396842 .
That said it doesn't take anything away from my reply to you there ..
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174397139 .
Ahead of Michael D. Cohen’s testimony Monday, the judge told prosecutors to keep him quiet about Donald J. Trump’s criminal case.
Former President Donald J. Trump once predicted that Michael Cohen would not turn on him. Now Mr. Cohen is set to testify against him.
Todd Heisler/The New York Times
By Jesse McKinley and Jonah E. Bromwich
May 10, 2024
In a startling precursor to what could be the most explosive testimony in Donald J. Trump’s criminal trial, the judge on Friday told prosecutors that he was personally asking that a key witness stop speaking out against the former president.
The witness, Michael D. Cohen, was once a personal lawyer for Mr. Trump and in 2016, paid $130,000 in hush money to a porn star to silence her account of extramarital sex with the then-presidential candidate. Mr. Cohen, who is expected to begin testifying next week, has been outspoken in his taunting of Mr. Trump, recently posting a TikTok video in which he wore a shirt .. https://twitter.com/wsteaks/status/1788389312452587782 .. with a picture of the former president behind bars.
On Friday, moments after prosecutors acknowledged that they have little control over their star witness, the judge, Juan M. Merchan, asked them to tell Mr. Cohen again to refrain from making any more statements about the case. He made it clear that the directive came from the highest authority in the court: him.
“That comes from the bench,” Justice Merchan said.
Mr. Cohen declined to comment.
Justice Merchan’s remarks might as well have been a billboard previewing next week’s main event. Mr. Cohen is crucial to the case: He says that records of his reimbursements for the hush-money payment were falsified in 2017 at the then-president’s direction.
The Links Between Trump and 3 Hush-Money Deals
Here’s how key figures involved in making hush-money payoffs on behalf of Donald J. Trump are connected.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/04/25/nyregion/trump-trial-hush-money-payments.html
The judge’s admonition injected a sense of anticipation into an otherwise placid proceeding, perhaps the first routine day in a most unusual trial. Prosecutors from the Manhattan district attorney’s office steadily tightened their focus on the central accusations against Mr. Trump ahead of what they said could be their final week of witness testimony.
They prepared for Mr. Cohen’s arrival by calling a round of custodial witnesses , whose testimony allowed the prosecutors to introduce important documents, phone logs, and text and email messages — much of it relevant to Mr. Cohen. Such witnesses are used to authenticate evidence that prosecutors and defense lawyers have not otherwise previously agreed should be admitted.
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[Insert: Custodial Witnesses Provide Little Spectacle, but Affirm Basic Facts
[...]Jeffrey S. McConney, the Trump Organization’s former corporate controller, also described in painstaking detail how Mr. Cohen requested the checks by invoice. They were then cut by Deborah Tarasoff, an accounts supervisor at the organization, and sent via FedEx to the White House by Rebecca Manochio, a junior bookkeeper at the company.
P - Those checks left Mr. Trump’s headquarters in New York stapled to Mr. Cohen’s invoices and arrived in Washington, making their way to the White House through two of Mr. Trump’s aides, including Keith Schiller, Mr. Trump’s personal bodyguard, at their home addresses.
P - A defense attorney, Susan Necheles, sought to downplay the sending of checks to an outside address, suggesting in questioning Ms. Westerhout that such an arrangement was simply “a workaround” to avoid things getting delayed in a crush of mail being received at the White House. Ms. Westerhout agreed.
P - Once the checks were signed by Mr. Trump — often in Sharpie, according to testimony — they were sent back to New York, and eventually to Mr. Cohen, who is expected to be a key witness for prosecutors, beginning on Monday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/10/nyregion/custodial-witnesses-trump-trial.html ]
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Between the riveting testimony of the porn star, Stormy Daniels, and Mr. Cohen’s looming appearance, Friday’s session was a moment of calm, the eye of the storm that is the first criminal trial of an American president.
Mr. Trump is charged with 34 felonies .. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/04/04/nyregion/trump-indictment-annotated.html , accused of orchestrating the falsification of documents — 11 invoices, 11 checks and 12 ledger entries — that were used to reimburse Mr. Cohen. Mr. Trump has pleaded not guilty and has denied having had sex with Ms. Daniels.
Friday’s most substantive witness was Madeleine Westerhout, a former executive assistant during Mr. Trump’s presidency who had direct insight into how documents flowed in and out of the Oval Office.
Ms. Westerhout testified that Mr. Trump would sign checks sent from his family business, the Trump Organization, often stapled to the related invoices. She said she saw him sign them at the Resolute Desk and sometimes, in Sharpie.
She also testified that she had helped schedule a February 2017 meeting between Mr. Cohen and Mr. Trump in the White House. There, Mr. Cohen is expected to testify, he and Mr. Trump discussed reimbursement for the $130,000 payment to Ms. Daniels.
During cross-examination on Thursday, Susan Necheles, a defense lawyer, elicited warm testimony from Ms. Westerhout, who said that Mr. Trump had been “a really good boss” who cared for his wife and family.
Those statements bolstered a key component of the defense’s case. Mr. Trump’s lawyers have argued that he was motivated to pay Ms. Daniels not to win the election, as prosecutors have said, but rather “to protect his family, his reputation and his brand” from “salacious allegations.”
But Ms. Westerhout missed a chance to further that case Friday. Ms. Necheles asked the former executive assistant about Mr. Trump’s reaction in 2018 after Ms. Daniels’s story became public.
While Ms. Westerhout acknowledged that “the whole situation was very unpleasant,” she said that her former boss had not brought up his family.
Shortly before Ms. Westerhout took the stand, the jury got a chance to assess Ms. Daniels’s story for themselves.
Who Are Key Players in the Trump Manhattan Criminal Trial?
The first criminal trial of former President Donald J. Trump is underway. Take a closer look at central figures related to the case.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/nyregion/trump-manhattan-criminal-trial-witnesses.html
Beginning on Tuesday, Ms. Daniels was on the stand for more than seven hours. She described, in often graphic detail, her account of a liaison with Mr. Trump in a Lake Tahoe, Nev., hotel suite in 2006. Though not directly related to the charges, the encounter — a brief and fraught experience, as recounted by Ms. Daniels — was the impetus for the hush-money payment made by Mr. Cohen, and for the case itself.
Mr. Cohen was once one of Mr. Trump’s closest confidants and most loyal enforcers. But he has since become a bitter enemy, openly mocking the former president and his legal travails .. https://www.yahoo.com/news/michael-cohen-says-trump-join-050456605.html .
Mr. Trump has returned fire, calling Mr. Cohen a liar and reposting similar attacks by allies. It was those broadsides, in part, that prompted Justice Merchan to prohibit Mr. Trump from attacking witnesses and jurors, among others. The judge has since found the former president to have violated that order 10 times, and fined him $10,000. Twice, Justice Merchan has threatened .. https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/D.O.motion4contempt-FINAL.pdf .. Mr. Trump with jail .. https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/DOcontempt_5-6-24FINAL.pdf .. if the violations continue.
Mr. Cohen, a felon who pleaded guilty to a raft of federal crimes in 2018 .. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/michael-cohen-pleads-guilty-manhattan-federal-court-eight-counts-including-criminal-tax , some of which he said were executed at Mr. Trump’s direction, is an imperfect witness. He has already been introduced to the jury by others who spoke of him from the stand, often in unflattering terms. The jury has heard his voice — in secretly recorded conversations, with Mr. Trump and others — and seen a photo of him beaming in the White House. But Monday, he is expected to appear in person.
On Friday, jurors got a taste of Mr. Trump’s disdain when prosecutors displayed Twitter posts disparaging Mr. Cohen, including one in August 2018 .. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1032247043992023040?lang=en , a day after Mr. Cohen’s plea deal was announced.
“If anyone is looking for a good lawyer, I would strongly suggest that you don’t retain the services of Michael Cohen!” the former president wrote.
Jurors also heard from a prosecution paralegal, Georgia Longstreet, who doubled as a witness, guiding the courtroom through texts between Dylan Howard,
[Who is the Australian caught up in Donald Trump’s first criminal trials?
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174357015]
the onetime editor of The National Enquirer, and Gina Rodriguez, Ms. Daniels’s manager in 2016. The messages showed a negotiation that led to a deal brokered by representatives of The National Enquirer but eventually executed by Mr. Cohen.
Prosecutors have argued that the supermarket tabloid entered a conspiracy with Mr. Trump and Mr. Cohen to unlawfully influence the 2016 presidential election .. https://manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/2023-04-04-SOF.pdf .
Mr. Trump has characterized the case as a political persecution, brought by the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, a Democrat. During the former president’s four weeks inside Justice Merchan’s courtroom, he has been a glum and glowering figure, staring straight ahead or occasionally at a collection of positive press notices, printed for him daily by an aide.
Many other times, however, Mr. Trump has shut out the testimony around him, closing his eyes for long stretches.
That habit was particularly pronounced during Ms. Daniels’s testimony, which his defense team furiously tried to discredit, suggesting that she was a liar and fabulist, intent on peddling a false story of an affair for personal gain. They called twice for a mistrial, arguing that her testimony had poisoned the jury. The judge rejected both attempts.
For her part, Ms. Daniels was initially uneven — speeding through testimony and earning rebukes from the judge for straying off topic — before finding her footing in cross-examination. She batted back questions and insinuations from Ms. Necheles, the defense lawyer.
Mr. Trump’s lawyers are expected to be equally aggressive with Mr. Cohen, who will likely bring a glare of attention to the courtroom. And while the pressure will be on the witness, the moment is likely to also be intense for Mr. Trump, who once predicted that Mr. Cohen would never turn against him.
“Sorry I don’t see Michael doing that,” Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter in April 2018 .. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-michael-cohen-will-never-flip-143516069.html . “Despite the horrible Witch Hunt and the dishonest media!”
Jesse McKinley is a Times reporter covering upstate New York, courts and politics. More about Jesse McKinley
Jonah E. Bromwich covers criminal justice in New York, with a focus on the Manhattan district attorney’s office and state criminal courts in Manhattan. More about Jonah E. Bromwich
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/10/nyregion/trump-michael-cohen-trial.html
Don't forget the case against Trump was almost closed until Bragg brought it back to life. This from 2022:
Donald Trump Revelations Put Alvin Bragg in 'Untenable Position'—Lawyers
The three lawyers resigning, with Mark Pomerantz's letter, certainly gives your feelingsome suggestible credibility. Without
further evidence though that's where it stands. I'd agree with you that there is no doubt Trump is guilty of the charges laid.
Related: Trump Is Guilty of ‘Numerous’ Felonies, Prosecutor Who Resigned Says
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By Ewan Palmer On 3/25/22 at 8:09 AM EDT
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Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg has been put in an "untenable position" with regards to the ongoing criminal investigation into Donald Trump's business dealings, following the "scathing" resignation letter from his former prosecutor, according to experts.
On Wednesday, The New York Times published the letter from prosecutor Mark Pomerantz, who quit as special assistant district attorney in February amid reports Bragg had doubts about pushing forward with prosecuting the former president and paused the grand jury investigation needed to indict him.
In the bombshell letter, Pomerantz, one of the top prosecutors working on the investigation into alleged tax fraud by The Trump Organization, said that the former president was "guilty of numerous felony violations" with regards to his "false" financial statements.
Pomerantz also hit out at Bragg for not seeking criminal charges against Trump even though the district attorney's predecessor who started the investigation, Cyrus Vance Jr., urged the department to seek an indictment "as soon as reasonably possible" because of the evidence against the former president .. https://www.newsweek.com/trump-mazars-financial-statements-investigations-1679829 .
"The team that has been investigating Mr. Trump harbors no doubt about whether he committed crimes—he did," Pomerantz wrote.
"I fear that your decision means that Mr. Trump will not be held fully accountable for his crimes. I have worked too hard as a lawyer, and for too long, now to become a passive participant in what I believe to be a grave failure of justice."
Speaking to Newsweek, former Los Angeles County prosecutor and criminal defense attorney Josh Ritter said that Bragg is now in a no-win situation regarding how he continues the investigation into Trump, and that Pomerantz's letter presents "huge problems" for him and the former president.
"What Mr. Pomerantz is describing cannot be characterized as a simple difference in opinion between prosecutors. The letter is nothing short of a scathing rebuke on Mr. Bragg's refusal to bring charges against Trump for what Mr. Pomerantz describes as clear-cut criminal behavior," Ritter said.
"This letter places Mr. Bragg in a completely untenable position. If Mr. Bragg were to now reverse course and pursue an indictment against Trump, he will no doubt be excoriated for bowing to political pressure. Conversely, if Mr. Bragg maintains his current position the letter raises questions about Mr. Trump's potential crimes that cannot remain unanswered."
The criminal investigation in New York is one of a number of inquiries that Trump is facing.
The Manhattan DA probe has run parallel with a civil case headed by New York Attorney General Letitia James into allegations Trump's business inflated the value of several New York properties to obtain better bank loans and other financial benefits.
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It seems clear there was pressure from different directions to do the right thing and try Trump, as Bragg did
in the end. Also don't forget one source of that pressure was Michael Cohen, after Trump betrayed him:
Disloyal: A Memoir
Disloyal: A Memoir; The True Story of the Former Personal Attorney to President Donald J. Trump is a 2020 book by Michael Cohen.[2][3] In the memoir, Cohen recollects his time working as an attorney for Donald Trump from 2006 to 2018, his felony convictions, and other personal affairs. Throughout the book, Cohen alleges numerous incidents of wrongdoing by Trump.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disloyal:_A_Memoir
conix Our rules have been made clear to you over years. One is, no comment on moderation.
Whatever you and she have going it had nothing to do with our discussion. And in saying
'AZ lying about my grandsons, class act you dems can be.....Which takes us back to the original thread of the day...
And here is my quote, not you but dems
Back to dems trying to twist things and even lie as was just shown, its not something dems can have a nuanced discussion about....
And
You all can fight and argue all you want about when it becomes a baby and when its ok to kill it....I think the original roe decision did as good a job as can be done... "
about AZ to me you obviously need a link as i haven't a clue what you are talking
about. No need now, just saying you obviously needed a link to back it up.
And this "Back to dems trying to twist things and even lie as was just shown", the "as was just shown" had
to be talking about something just shown in our conversation, or how was i to know what you were talking about.
Thing is we others here have no trouble with nuanced conversation and there seems little doubt that your repeated "not
something dems can have a nuanced discussion about" can only be because you are not capable of having one yourself.
Enough. It's a waste of time.
That's what i thought. Like Trump when he fucks something up he excuses himself by saying he was joking, or well, it really wasn't...
You said clearly i lied. I ask you where, you say
"Wasn't necessarily your words.....now just what lie was just shown to the board? Not the first time either....
As for the nuanced discussion, tried that once and have seen it here.....Ill just stick to I agree with Roe"
it wasn't my words. Now you have to explain what lie was just shown to the board.
And what you mean by your not the first time either.
There wasn't one, eh. Guessing you just made it all up. And it doesn't relate to anything here.
Then you say, as for the nuanced discussion, which noted you are failing to make happen -- you are -- then
you say that you will just stick with what i just said to you you should have said in the first place.
YOU better go to bed.
And don't forget to tell me what lie you are talking about above. Save it for tomorrow, you are fucking it up too badly now.
B402, Look at you twisting mine even as you accuse us of twisting yours. I said 'unless i missed something' yet you can't help but come back with
"No, Ive stated I agree with the original Roe v Wade ruling
Back to dems trying to twist things and even lie as was just shown, its not something dems can have a nuanced discussion about....
You all can fight and argue all you want about when it becomes a baby and when its ok to kill it....I think the original roe decision did as good a job as can be done... "
a total misrepresentation of my words. And a total misrepresentation of the dems on this board. Yet again. You project, son.
An open and reasonable poster, with no self-generated chip on his shoulder, would have said, No i supported Roe and Wade. That's all you had to say, yet you clearly accuse me of lying. You fucking dick.
That said, and now that you have said "and even lie as was just shown" that i lied there, i ask you.. where is my lie in:
And that's good enough i suppose for all those in support of the GOP abortion position. You being
one, i guess since i haven't seen you in any disagreement with them. Or did i miss something.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174397586
Not in the first sentence. Hmm, not in the 2nd or 3rd sentences either.
No nowhere there did i even think of saying something definite about you. Didn't even consider it, because i didn't know.
You really did there what you accuse us of. Because it's a mindset of yours you do it all the time.
PS: Don't forget - where is my lie? I want you to tell me, using my words, exactly where it is i lied about you.
Add an x to the end of your link on the board. Haha. I think a few here would be happy with that.
Ps: Any dick with even just as much nous as you exhibit here could at least have posted the live link instead
of your silly' add an x' comment. All of which suggests you don't even have as much nous as you exhibit here.
That is a problem.
And that's good enough i suppose for all those in support of the GOP abortion position. You being
one, i guess since i haven't seen you in any disagreement with them. Or did i miss something.
LOL