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The shareholder letter is a complete joke.
On the one hand they publish 2 Million net profit for the last quarter, but on the other hand they have 762 USD cash and want to sell more shares directly to shareholders.
For me this sounds like extortionate robbery: Buy our shares direct from HCPC or we can no longer pay our monthly bills even with 2 Million profit/quarter and have to declare bankruptcy.
With 2 Million profit/quarter this should trade at least around 1 cent, but they have to prove that the money is real and not only exists as a number on manipulated financials.
PPS is 0,0001, so market doesn't believe one single word from the company!
I don't sell one single share below 0,30 USD, but I actually think that our ship is out of fuel and there are no more life jackets for the remaining longs left.
If this is no scam we really deserve some information from the company. I will hold until the end but it doesn't look good at the moment for longs.
Don't expect a cash divi - we will get a typical pinky share dividend which doesn't cost HCPC any money and will become worthless after R/S.
Seems like there is not much hope left for HCPC.
Yes, and reason enough for me to keep far away from this company. I will never touch this again!
I actually have a realy bad feeling conserning AURC. I still hold all of my shares but I don't think any longer that this will have a "happy end".
Yes, and I start thinking that we may never hear from our BOD again but time will tell. Sometimes wonder happens!
That will be the second R/S within 1 year! This company just burns our money - I see absolutely no reason to buy even one additional share.
Like the few remaining longs left, I still hope for the best but I think it's realy time for AURC to show us a sign of life.
PS: Would be nice to get a cash divi - when I remember correct they promised many dividends last year when longs received the now worthless stock divi!
I'm still holding, but I'm not buying until I hear something positiv from AURC-BOD.
There is no need to buy Pinks at the moment - there are many value stocks with 10bagger potential available at the moment.
Hello DOS, I think it's realy time for AURC to tell remaining shareholders what's going on with the company.
We haven't heard anything for nearly half a year and I think that was long enough!
It's time for Aurus to give us a sign of life!
Good way to become rich:
Always do the opposite from Willy Wizard! Unfortunately no German Broker allows short-selling of Willy's garbage stocks!
I'm still holding my NWOL - but I feel like being robbed through Maly!!!
German Market startet extremly bad today! Many good stocks get slaugtered at the moment!
I will only invest in "Value stocks" in the future and will never pay one single dollar for any Pinksheet!
It looks like AURC and NWOL are dead! No PR from both BODs for about 6 months now.
I'm still holding both positions, but I expect them to become completely worthless. Only a miracle can help with both stocks.
Not only the DOW, our german DAX in down 7% at the moment.
Privat money is taken out of the stock market all over the world. Confidence in the finance sector and stock market is destroyed.
I expect the downtrend to continue at least for the next year. Dax will fall below 3000 until the end 2009 imo. At I think governments are not able to avoid economic recession.
Hard times will come over the next years and I'm realy glad to have a very safe job in the german public service!!!
A new webside sounds nice but will not affect PPS. What HCPC realy needs are: Done deals, revenues and profit to climb out of the cellar!!
Bud DOS is right! I tried at least 20 times to get somebody at the phone but nobody answered!
I sent an email but only got an automatic response!
IIC is not worth talking about here any longer imo!!!
your links have nothing in common with iic in "spain". I doubt that iic is more than a 1-person company. Nobody answers at the phone, so I write an email but I doubt that I receive an answer.
The most important questions to Carol are:
1. When starts HCPC actively supporting PPS by buying back shares in the open market!
2. Can you assure to shareholders that no R/S will happen without an uplisting?
3. Could you please estimate a timeframe for completing the audit?
4. Please show more transparency conserning realtionship between HCPC, RELM, Camel and other partners or subsidaries. For outsider the whole construct looks like a trick to create value numbers on paper without real assets.
5. You declare 721 Millions in Assests in last quarter financials. Shareholder needs proof that there is real value behind thoose numbers. So could you please explain thoose numbers more clearly?
That are some things I actually have in mind.
I'm from Germany, so I tried to call the German Office of IIC in Spain but nobody answered on the phone.
I looked over their webpage and even their webpage violates european law, because of their imprint not showing all required information.
They offer "subscription of shares" from Spain because they know that this is not allowed from Germany without permission from the German BaFin (our SEC).
My opinion: IIC is just a joke. I realy hope there is no connection with AURC. If AURC has anything to do with this that would be the ultimate proof for AURC being a scam!
I will try to call them again tomorrow.
The guy is talking bullshit!! Some european financial institutes are in trouble because of dealing with risky american mortgage packages!
I think the whole problem is the american way of life! How can anybody be stupid enough to buy a house for 300000 USD with a net income of 20000 USD or less and how can any financial institute give credit to thoose people.
Americans have consumed and made war over the last few years by printing new dollar bills and borrowing money from the rest of the world.
There is only one rule to follow in your life if you don't want to get in financial trouble:
Don't buy anything if you don't have the money!!!!
I would never take out a loan to buy a big new car, a flat TV or to go on holiday. First I save money and then I go shopping!! If I don't have enough money to buy a new Porsche I have to buy a used Beetle - that's the whole secret!
Yes, HCPC has made great progress over the last three quarters looking at their financials and I'm anxious to see next 2 quarters.
There is still a chance for HCPC to succeed. Financial market needs new, safe and transparent products, there is no longer a market for stinky and risky mortgage packages.
I like to see RFNS green in my account, but I don't expect to hear anything positive in the near future.
I think it's wise to stay in waiting modus from the Hamiltons and not to act during market turmoils. In my opinion the whole finace sector will change over the next two years. Banks have to create transparent new products, there is no more need for risky deals.
Yes, but I don't think that the SEC will spent much time in investigating Pinksheets, they are looking for big fishes!
I hadn't bought this stock because of this message board, but because of Heritage PRs and the development I've seen in the published last 2 Quarter financials.
If the financial and all their PR's were lies sent them both to jail for the rest of their lives!
If the financial and all their PR's were no lies and they realy closed some deals and funded some operations there is little hope left!
But like most others here I think it's realy time for the company to publish some information.
Exactly my opinion! We just have to lean back and wait!
We will loose everything or win realy big! It's Lotto at the moment! LOL
But perhaps it will become a good investment! We will see!
Seem like you are a little greedy!
I would be more that satisfied with 2 more zeros at the right position!
Exactly my opinion!
They care what's happening with HCPC, because they can only sell with enough volume and buying pressure!
So first HCPC has to succeed and then RELM can participate together with us. I think it is not interesting for RELM to sell into the market, they need an institutional buyer. But perhaps it's more interesting for them to kkep the shares as book value and cash in divis!
I don't know!
Yes, all discussions here are useless until we get some new information.
It's up to Carol and HCPC!
And HCPC has to pay RELM with Preferred Stock Dividend!
I think that is the miracle of BCLOC! Somebody from the outside has to buy bonds to make it work!
Only Carol knows how all pieces fit together at the moment, but I still think there is a plan to make it work!
It' always the same: It doesn't matter what you have to sell. Shares, Properties, Bonds or shit - it doesn't matter but you need a buyer to receive your money!
They can't sell shares any longer, so they have to sell something else to survive and perhaps we can participate!
Time will tell!
It's in RELM's interest that HCPC-PPS moves, right???
So we and RELM are standing on the same sight together with HCPC!!
Or bought back through HCPC!!
All thoose billion share numbers in RELM finacials are only theoretical based on 0,0002 HCPC-PPS.
But if they have to convert any shares at this price it's no good sign for financial liquidity!
But that is just a calculated theoretical number depending on HCPC-PPS. As long as there are only 16 Billion shares authorised they can't convert and sell into the market!
They first have to bring HCPC-PPS up, create buying pressure and then convert shares. Everything else would be suicide for RELM as well.
Don't think they are completely fools?? They know how to play the financial games!!
We have to wait for Carol - closing some deals and puzzling all pieces together!
As long as they don't do a R/S I will lean back and wait!
Yes, reading and comparing RELM and HCPC financials it seems like they are cycling assets. The BCLOC financing is new to the market and the way I understood it BCLOC works through offering AAA-rated bonds to the market for financing.
So the question is have they already offered bonds to the market and found third party buyers for the bonds???
Yes, there are not many possibilities left for the company!
At current situation a R/S would be wasted time without creating buying pressure.
The only thing that can bring them out of the 0,0001 Pinky-cellar is profit, and looking at the development over the last quarters concerning their financial statements there is still a little chance for HCPC to do it.
I have enough patience to sit here and wait until the end of next year!!!
No, we need done deals!
I don't know??? My orders were 3.5-9-9-9-4.5 million shares!
Looking at HCPCs' calendar of events we should see audit in september or october.
Without a R/S everything looks still fine imo!
It took 5 trades to get 35 Million shares for me!!!