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YUP pacel...Symbol Name Expiration Date
PCCR Pacel Corporation
PCLL Pacel Corp. New Common Stock 06/20/2005
PCOR Pacel Corp 02/25/2005
PCCL Pacel Corp. New Common Stock 09/13/2004
PACC Pacel Corporation 02/25/2004
PACCE Pacel Corporation 09/03/2003
PACC Pacel Corporation 08/27/2003
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lol playa, that's a fairly acurate statement about otcbb. I think if you look at micro's like they're real companies, you get into more trouble.
Just a quikie here, about r/s... do a search for PCCN, pccr.. or whatever they are this month... pccn/pcc..might just have a record for r/s'ing people into oblivion. Right next to Gateway distributors, (not to be confused with gateway computers)
no, no, playa,, the company's crap, it's all the bash/pump nicknames coming out of the woodwork that are bullchit.
Yes, jan, so far 3 of your links are for restricted access, thats 2 too many. Did you forget what sites you've bookmarked?
I have received 2 separate stock divs. I just hope I can time the r/s before it happens and get out this time.
The last time (weather you want to know this or not, if not, skip to any next post) was from svxp, aka cali, aka who the hell knows before that.... made a small announcement in a Dec. 05 pr that they did intend to do a r/s, by April 6th (or maybe 9th) 2006. Why would a company put such a specific date like april 6th, if they didn't mean to deceive you into holding longer. But, BUT... they r/s without an announcment on the Friday before MLK day. Well, actually, they did post a announcement after 2:45 on that Friday. Not a lot of time to do much is there. The name change and r/s was official at the end of day Friday. What's real sickening, I have observed and suffered this same technique 5 times in a years span. R/s'ing before a monday holiday.
S5
WHERE did ALL you people COME from.........I've been here for over a year, this goofy stock gets to .002 and there's almost 300 posts in a day. Pumpers, bashers, midnight crashers... your all full of bullchit. gwgo gives nothing but stock div's, and PR's up the rump... Claims they will move on to a new sector... could this be more mining, but in copper...??
Gwgo didn't say it wouldn't be a new MINING sector!!!
Mining is now the poster child of the pennies....
Gwgo will reverse split, it's just a matter of when. The spin offs ARE a form of reverse splits (reducing share amounts).
It's sooo obvious who's professionally bashing and pumping... maybe some of the same people as well. I come here for the entertainment because no one has the balls to talk straight about the insiders and why a company has one guy as ceo + othe multi titles and pay themselves 200K + salaries year after year. I'm not entirely sure, but I think a otcbb company can only issue outstandings once a year...... so expect billions more, which IMOO would preceed a R/S (1-1000)
It's not called gambling for nothing.
And oh yea, Janice, just keep posting the links we can't enter, so we can't check your info. Why don't the 4 of you with the 12 different names go back where you came from........
GLTA S5
If you have a margined account, they might still deduct it if you have enough funds to cover. I think. Or maybe the brokerage will just issue you a margin call to pay it back.
Dunno for sure since I don't have a managed account. With scottrade.
Ow, that sucks. Does that mean if you took that amount out of your account, you have to give it back???
I see deletes when they show up on the level II's.
Chevy..pps will go where??? up .. down...
On that guy that sold 3m @.005, can they delete that sale and take your funds back??
I'm not sure how that happens.
Gwgo seems to be reading forums. They just stated again today they weren't considering a reverse split action.
It is just a pr, so taken with a grain of gold dust.
S5
There has been statements by gwgo that they will not reverse split. Famous last words.......... But by gwgo saying that they will somehow include gwgo shareholders in the new company may be a ploy of some type. Could this mean, after they r/s 1 to 1000, whatever is left can be transfered out to the new company. That's my feeling (imoo only) that's whats going to happen. With tens of billions in o/s I don't see much chance of anything else. The spin offs are a glorified reverse split anyways.......
I've been r/s to death at least 5 times in a year, and all five companies did this next technique.... (but only 2 stated any r/s in filings), all of them waited until after 2:30 on a friday night to issue the announcement, all of these fridays were before a national monday holiday. So, nothing could be done until tuesday, by then the name change and new issue were in effect. Another example of mine was my holdings were transfered to new company name, then the next day r/s'd to nothing.
I'm thinking if my holdings survive the transfer intact, I'm going to wait 2 days, see which way new issue is moving and dump out completely.
glta S5
Um, I've been in adot since 03'. Picked it up a .0167, went up to .0224 a month later then all downhill from there....
The Pr's have been suspiciously identical in wording and such since then as well.
I have not checked the biomoda IPO angle at this time, but this was supposed to happen in 04' It's now 06', no income, no product, but all the company officers have multi 100k salaries and stock options. Same ol' same ol'.
If anyone cares to read a adot filing from over 2 years ago, they would see it mentioned that adot is a bridge financing instrument for gmed and biomoda. The officers are cross bred within these subs as well. I have plenty of other fish to grow, so I have no faith, or expectations for adot at all. I have 65K left and the pps would have to get to 5 cent to get my cash back. I doubt that.
Not fun statements, but my 2 cents. (wish that was adot!)
S5
The really clear and crappy thing about adot is they have been using the same PR for over 4 years now. I mean it's almost the same wording even.
The only income for the company officers is from stock sales.
I'm most likely never going to get even close to 50% of my investment back...I mean my gambling money.
SH101... I agree with the idea of multi stream venue, but, I believe the litigation is to get rid of ANY bill boards, you know, free up the landscape. Ironically, I'm 150% for getting rid of all billboards. The only time a billboard made sense to me was for off highway locations... (motel, gas, food etc.) and NOT to sell aftershave.......... or stupid SUV's. Michigan's implementing the small blue info signs is a great idea and makes it easy to find essential travel stuff.
I think most if not all big roadside signs will go away because of the GPS mapping technology. Hmmm, I think I should be investigating GPS companies instead of billboard stuff.........
And oh, I've also am an artist and have done advertising design for billboards and such, and working inside of different companies and the dirty little secret is the ratio algorithms of eyeballs per second crap has always been inflated to the advertiser (wow, bet that doesn't surprise anyone.)
In my mind, most advertisers have always fudged these numbers because they speculate that so many out of a 1000 people, divided by the height squared to the shoe size of the first 300 one footed people per second view their crap................... Do you really believe 3 billion people watched the Stupid Bowl??
Then I got some land in the great white north you'd be interested in!!
Why is no one else mentioning this 'buyins.net'. Because I think this is gwgo's new company! Or, new shell. Gwgo made the statement of dumping mining and starting in a new market sector. Seems like naked short listing may be a way to charge companies to track so called naked shorts.
My opinion only here. Or, gwgo is investing with buyin.
Time will tell. But will we common shareholders be able to do anything about it?
I've been looking at the London market too. It's pretty weird because of the currency angle. I found this link, I think it's like the otcbb.com site for London.
http://www.londonstockexchange.com/en-gb/pricesnews/
Might have to get used to it, I don't know how pink sheets going to work with this. Gwgo will hopefully explain some of this in english for us.
glta S5
Its been said March hopfully
gwgo offering dividends? C'mon, I don't know ANY company EVER having cash dividends with a stock price below $2.
More STOCK div's for sure. They're free to give.
But, if they don't r/s, then I have 120k shares free to make a few bucks out of.
Plus, I don't think the spins are canceled. Stated at end of this month they will be issued.
Aaaaand this tells us.... what??
Aaaaand this tells us...what??
maninfla..."Good Lord" .... lol, if there is a god, I would think he/she would have smited the entire penny markets by now................
Gwgo makes refrence to 'squeese trigger', again. IMOO, this company 'buyins.***' may be the sector gwgo is throwing into.
Gwgo pres. may see more money to be made in electronic short record keeping, or data mining for a fee.
Time will tell, I think end of this month will be clues.
S5
Souza, I believe you are right.
This example may be correct then.........
400k shares divided by 1000 = 400 shares X bouse 28.82 =
11,528 shares of Bouse with the spin. Or alternately,
400K gwgo shares X 28.82 divided by 1000 = 11,528 shares bouse.
This is interesting for sure. I unfortunately feel a r/s coming on. Just my opinion. The other thing, what's this going to cost us in conversions and such. I don't know how much scottrade charges to liquidate certs either. Heavy questions.
S5
Got my div's this morning Tues. am in my scottrade acc.
gwgo said in one filing/pr that they would not reverse split but would roll over shareholders someway into their new company. I'm not so sure at this time. If there is a day or two after the spin divs (5 companies??), I think I will make a hard decision to lose the gwgo shares, because (my opinion only) that they will do a r/s right after the spins are final.
Also, this may be ignorant, but when gwgo awards the first spin company, 28.82 shares per 1000 gwgo, does the next issue use the reduced count, or the same total each time, figuring you didn't reduce your own shares in any way. This is so convoluted I'm going in circles.
S5
yes. As of 4:30, no div's in my scottrade account.
I'm wondering if the un-managed, free accounts get the last transaction cycles.
It took 5 days last time (gwgo 8/05) I think.
S5
10,000,000 Milestone
March 24th 2006 2:30 PM
stockster5
Yep. No div's as of 4:30 in my scottrade account.
I have a thought that un-managed, free accounts are the last ones transacted perhaps. I think it took 5 days last time I had div. GWGO in 8/05.
S5
Scottrade didn't get all those glitzy awards for nothing.
They seem to go by the book full time. My last div's from gwgo took 3 days too. At this time, its not in my account.
I believe Scottrade waits until it receives all proper paper and e files. I've never seen them issue what they don't have.
Well, at least in my little corner of the woods.
If nothing shows up by the bell on Monday, I'll be calling tuesday.
One thing I noticed in all this shifting stock stuff, is gwgo has been overlapping dates, making most people hold or whatever until the next big thing. Like I said before somewhere, I'm holding, if only to see how a penny stock does the game. I've been flipping my other stuff, no problem cause I don't even care what the so called products are, as long as I have a pulse in the volumes.
Sooooo.... gotta sit still on this one!
S5
yeah. I've seen that before too. It would be sweet to get bought out with the share price of a buck. :>)
Naaaaa. Not going to happen. I don't know how this company has managed to operate in whatever mode it has. My feeling is it's a shell. Also in the filings back aways, adot does state that adot is a bridge financing instrument for gmed and future ipo biomoda. So, that makes it a shell I guess.
I made reference some time ago about large roadside billboards having a boatload of litigation aimed to (1)stop them permanently (2)limit any new ones to existing locations and downsized. This is across the country. Adot most likely saw the writing on 'big wall' and may be moving their "product?" to the bio/medical/pharma industry incorporation small screen tech. This is also within numerous filings as well. I'm not making this stuff up.....
One negative I see right now, is a handful of other companies are already in place doing this. And have made inroads to casinos, arenas, etc.
I'm holding half what I had, and that's at a big loss.
Pennies are tough sometimes...............
S5
Geez Sean, maybe you shouldn't be holding a short position here and trying to scare us into dumping for you!!
Anyways, the SEC filings were clear, spins are to be sent to the London exchange, reason being gwgo said they would be restricted for a year and we couldn't trade them, so gwgo is doing a foreign exchange scheme. I have Scottrade, and I will most likely see my div on the 9th, and scottrade said what gwgo is doing is legal, weird but legal.. and here's a side comment by the agent as she was ending our conversation,,,..
"Wow, they're (gwgo) almost acting like they care about common shareholders........giggle" I'm still trying to figure that out. By the way, I received every div promised (2), exactly as promised so far.. and, in another filing, gwgo said it didn't want to r/s and will roll shareholders into it's new company sector. Well, it is a pr, so who really knows. Since it's o/s is under 20 billion, not 700 bill, like cmkx, a r/s may not be in the companies best interest. But, there's nothing to stop gwgo from r/s. I still don't trust any penny stock as far as I could throw a stock certificate against the wind............
My prediction, if a r/s does happen, it would come right after the spins are official and before the roll over to the new company,,, so you would have about 120 shares left for gwgo2 or whatever the new name would be. And if gwgo does it like the last 10 companies to burn me did, they'd announce it 2:45 on the friday before a monday holiday when the markets closed and state the name change for tuesday morning. This makes it virtually impossible to unload stock if you weren't looking at a live feed at 2:45 and went nuts to place your sell order............
Hey, it is gambling right?
glta S5
Oh yeah, adot's been doing this for 5 years... I go back to 2003, when I got in at .0167. It popped to .0224 for a month and has been sub-sub penny since. They have used the same pr for 2 years. Worded almost exactly. The company officers have paid themselves well, as is the practice of all penny companies for last few years. Anybody remember biomoda?
Gmed? I'm checking for the insider trades to see if the officers have unloaded lately. This could trigger some pps movement as the MM's have to unload as well. And you know, the mm's hate to not have control of the pps.
S5
Ah, how true. Sorry, I lost my head, almost thought there was a company in there somewhere. This issue is where you have a couple mil and flip it every 100% up tick.
Squ1... you need to go back 5 years, because adot has used the same pr for that long.
I bought in a .016, it popped to .024, then dropped to sub penny never to resurface since 2004. (IF) adot still holds anything with gmed, then that must be whats keeping adot officers happy for now.
I question any kind of charting for penny stocks because they may be too volatile and swift for techs.
I see way too many fast pops and dips in a day, I can't even draw a line to a double shoulder fast enough.
I read somewhere that if you sell right after the pay date you may not be eligible for the actual div, something to do with the record date... I might have that reversed, but it's alittle tricky when they issue stock div's and spins.
More people have screwed themselves by not knowing this.
gwgo is making people hold for fear of losing the bonus div of the new company. The record date for this div is end of jan. and the pay date is 2 weeks later. Something like that.
It is all spelled out in last filing.
Yes, awhile for me as well. All the slight of hand is starting to make my head hurt. 1 div in 8/05, 5 spins/divs 11/05, another 25% stock div end of january, and supposingly, shareholdings of gwgo will be transfered to new market sector and name change right after all divs. What isn't clear is, do we have a major reverse split over our heads?
Also, I think there is only one person running the show.
A MR. Axtle I think....
BTW... the First American Stock Transfer, Inc. is NOT associated in any way with gwgo. Another transfer co is, you'll find it on gwgo website under financial drop down menu.
I inquired and most transfer agents don't deal with the shareholder directly apparently.
If gwgo extends anything again, I'll most likely dump and run.
Did you guys just spot this stock? It's in the process of spin offs and 25% divys. Then a complete market sector change and name change. The odds are a big reverse split right after the dividend of stock in lieu of cash.
BONUS 25% STOCK DIVIDEND :-
The Company is paying a 25% "Bonus" Stock Dividend to its shareholders of "Record", that being January 31, 2006. These "Bonus" Stock Dividend" shares will be electronically credited to shareholder Stock Brokerage accounts on February 6, 2006. Shareholders who hold shares in certificated form will receive their "Bonus" Stock Dividend Share Certificates by post
They (or he) are being very cagey about calling anything a reverse split. Splitting stock with subs may actually be a type of reverse split. When's the next monday holiday, that's seems to be the r/s technique of choice, announcing r/s last minute on a friday before a monday holiday.
S5
What I'm wondering is, can gwgo r/s first, then do the 25% divy? They are definitely trying to make you hold and buy more by extending again. But the last PR does state, that shareholders will have holdings in the brand new sector, maybe after the reverse split when you hold 28 shares or something.
I just got slammed by Svxp/Cali r/s of 1 to 1000 today.
They announced at the end of the day friday 13th, that it's final on jan,17th. Of course, monday is mlk holiday and exchanges are closed. That is the lowest pos thing to do to common shareholders. All the so-called officers had bought BILLIONS of shares in svxp only in the last 40 days.
Damn, it was SO obvious it's sickening.
I agree with last posts. Looks like a lure to give them more money... or maybe HIM, since I see only one guy on the masthead.
Have anybody received the other certs as promised. Should be at least 5 spin offs each worth around 1k per 100k of stock.
Or there abouts. A couple of filings ago explained this well.
But I'll take my chance on my present holdings.
Gwgo will be bailing out of the mining sector it has said, so I am really hoping beyond hope that gwgo rolls our shares into their new company. I have my doubts tho' I smell a r/s stench close by. But, gwgo doesn't seem to have any r/s in the past history and a filing mentions 'we won't r/s'.
Well pr's are only as good as how far you can throw them after lighting them up on your bbq.
S5
GOLD coin$$$$$$$$$$$$
Haven't seen my mail yet today. I'm fairly sure the spin off dividends were to be mailed real soon. What may be a bummer is they may all be restricted and take forever to get listed on London exchange.
S5
I received this reply after emailing GWGO the other day.
Dear Sir/Madam,
Thank you for your interest in and for contacting Great West Gold, Inc.
Our web site is being updated to reflect the changes, I apologise for this delay but our web site administrator is on "leave" for a few days.
The "Press Release" section of our web site is up to date which will provide you with all the information that are seeking.
This value of US$0.018 for each share of Great West Gold, Inc. Common Stock refers to the Stock Distribution Dividends only and does not factor into account the 25% Stock Dividend.
The Share Certificates in respect of these five Stock Distribution Dividends will be posted to shareholders by the Transfer Agent in late January 2006.
The 25% Stock Dividend will be electronically credited to your Brokerage account.
I hope that this will enable you to calculate the value and amount of your Stock Dividends :-
Assuming that you purchased these shares before the "Pay Date" for the distribution of the shares in Windsor Resources, Inc. (Bouse Mining Holdings plc) which was November 7, 2005, Sentinel Resources, Inc. (Sentinel Resource Holdings plc) which was November 14, 2005 and Copperstone Mining, Inc. (Copperstone Mining Holdings plc) which was December 2, 2005, you are eligible for those Stock Dividends.
Assuming that you hold your shares of Great West Gold, Inc. Common Stock until January 5, 2006; you will be eligible for the "Pay Date" for the distribution of the shares in Ambassador Gold Holdings, Inc. (Ambassador Gold Holdings plc) which is on January 2, 2006 and in Golden Eagle, Inc. (Golden Eagle Holdings plc) which is on January 4, 2006.
Assuming that you hold 1,000 shares of Great West Gold, Inc. Common Stock, you will receive :-
Bouse Mining Holdings plc - 1,000 shares in Great West Gold, Inc. entitles you to 28.82 Ordinary Shares in Bouse Mining Holdings plc valued at 10p (US$0.18) per share. The value of 1,000 Ordinary Shares in Bouse Mining Holdings plc is worth £2,88 (US$5.11).
Sentinel Resource Holdings plc - 1,000 shares in Great West Gold, Inc. entitles you to 19.46 Ordinary Shares in Sentinel Resource Holdings plc valued at 10p (US$0.18) per share. The value of 1,000 Ordinary Shares in Sentinel Resource Holdings plc is worth £1.95 (US$3.46).
Copperstone Mining Holdings plc - 1,000 shares in Great West Gold, Inc. entitles you to 19.46 Ordinary Shares in Copperstone Mining Holdings plc valued at 10p (US$0.18) per share. The value of 1,000 Ordinary Shares in Copperstone Holdings plc is worth £1.95 (US$3.46).
Ambassador Gold Holdings plc - 1,000 shares in Great West Gold, Inc. entitles you to 18.86 Ordinary Shares in Ambassador Gold Holdings plc valued at 10p (US$0.18) per share. The value of 1,000 Ordinary Shares in Ambassador Gold Holdings plc is worth £1.89 (US$3.35). This would increase if you acquired additional shares in Great West Gold, Inc. prior to January 2, 2006.
Golden Eagle Mining Holdings plc - 1,000 shares in Great West Gold, Inc. entitles you to 18.86 Ordinary Shares in Golden Eagle Mining Holdings plc valued at 10p (US$0.18) per share. The value of 1,000 Ordinary Shares in Golden Eagle Mining Holdings plc is worth £1.89 (US$3.35). This would increase if you acquired additional shares in Great West Gold, Inc. prior to January 4, 2006.
The total value of your Dividend Shares is US$18.73 for every 1,000 shares of Great West Gold, Inc. Common Stock that you hold. This equates to US$0.01873 for every one Great West Gold, Inc. share. You would multiply the US$18.73 by the amount of Great West Gold, Inc. Common Stock that you own, and then divide by 1,000, that will give you the Dollar Value of your Stock Distributions.
You will receive an additional 25% shares of Great West Gold, Inc. Common Stock (to be credited electronically to your Brokerage Account) for each share that you hold in Great West Gold, Inc. at that "Pay Date", being January 6, 2006.
Please do not hesitate to contact us should you require an additional information.
Kind Regards
Great West Gold, Inc.- Investor Relations Assistance Team