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Sounds like all part of a diabolical plan to me. More fools gold.
I found another pump and dump for the legal council for CRWV, Alan M. Rothman.
Now it includes the P&D's of
RBDC (RBID.com inc) (NO-BID Stop Sign pink)
Same address 895 Dove Street
Suite 300 Newport Beach, CA 92660
Mr. Rothman CEO and President
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/RBDC/company-info
NLIR (National Investment Corp Real Estate Holdings)
(NO-BID grey sheet pinky)
With Mr. Rothman's address
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/NLIR/company-info
Now appointed Secretary and Director Jan 24th, 2011 to
GACR (Green Automotive Company Corporation)
Compensation being stated as "currently under negotiation"
http://www.otcmarkets.com/otciq/ajax/showFinancialReportById.pdf?id=50190
GACR just did a pump about two months ago where the pps went from a low of $.30 to a high of $1.89 and has been doing the afterpump dance since.
Even though GACR is a little higher on the tier compared to the NO-BID and Grey pinks, its still has a cast of dubious characters in the company line-up and is in financial need.
Not saying any connection, but it does show the MO and possible connections of different characters.
CRWV
Yet another NO BID flunky pink for Alan Rothman, legal council for CRWV
Listed as president and CEO for this one. Same address, but different phone. Old number and hasn't done much for awhile, pump and dump about 10 years back.
RBDC (RBID.com, Inc.)
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/RBDC/company-info
LOL Is that what one calls job security. Funny that the guy can pass the Bar Exam, but when it comes to the Professional Responsibility Exam, he has a hard time and fails the thing. That states a lot in my book.
Well they have a stellar legal council. LOL At least he's active since 1997, but it was a rough go I guess. Found his home with pinky scams.
CRWV
ITEM XV. OUTSIDE PROVIDERS
1. INVESTMENT BANKER - None Retained
2. PROMOTORS – None Retained
3. COUNSEL – Alan M. Rothman ESQ. 895 Dove Street, Suite 300 Newport BeachCA 92660
4. ACCOUNTANT - No External Audits Or Reviews Completed. Financials are
prepared by. management
https://www.otciq.com/otciq/ajax/showFinancialReportById.pdf?id=56726
Alan Rothman - #90056
Current Status: Active
This member is active and may practice law in California.
See below for more details.
Profile Information
The following information is from the official records of The State Bar of California.
Bar Number:90056
Address: 895 Dove St Ste 300
Newport Beach, CA 92660
Map it
Phone Number:(626) 864-4060
Fax Number: (888) 841-8464
e-mail:Not Available
County:Orange
Undergraduate School: Long Island Univ; Long Island NY
District: District 8
Sections: None
Law School:Southwestern Univ SOL; Los Angeles CA
Status History
Effective Date
Status Change
Present
Active 8/17/2007
Active 2/15/1994
Not Eligible To Practice Law 11/29/1979
Admitted to The State Bar of California
Explanation of member status
Actions Affecting Eligibility to Practice Law
Effective Date
Description
Case Number
Resulting Status
Disciplinary and Related Actions
8/7/1995 Suspended, failed to pass Prof.Resp.Exam 92-P-20685
Not Eligible To Practice Law
2/28/1995 Ordered inactive
Not Eligible To Practice Law
7/10/1994 Discipline w/actual suspension 92-P-20685
Not Eligible To Practice Law
2/15/1994 Ordered inactive 92-P-20685
Not Eligible To Practice Law
10/10/1992 Discipline, probation; no actual susp. 89-O-15649
http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detail/90056
But like I stated, he found a home in the pinks.
NLIR (National Investment Corp Real Estate Holdings)
A NO-BID grey sheet pinky with a interesting simularity.
Contact Info for NLIR
895 Dove Street
Suite 300
Newport Beach, CA 92660
Phone: 626-864-4060
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/NLIR/company-info
CRWV
Seems as always it's just one big merry-go-round
https://www.otciq.com/otciq/ajax/showFinancialReportById.pdf?id=56726
Names of people behind the company
A. Officers and Directors
Xiao yu Hou, President
? Chief Executive Officer from March 2011-Present.
? No Share Holdings
Ron Lindsay, Secretary/Treasurer
? Secretary/Treasurer March 2011 - Present
? Director since March 2011
? No Share Holdings
? Member of board OWVI
The nothing stock at .0001 OWVI PR
Any discussion on CRWV over here? This thing seems to one of the bigger promoted stocks (at least in the top ten of this month). The promo dollars are stated to be in the millions (years ago, that would amaze me, but not much these days on pinks). Not sure if the statements of "$ millions" is just to help the pump or if that much is really being paid. If true, that would mean many, many millions of dollars of losses for the ones taken by it.
Even though I could guess your thoughts on it Mr. Dummy, I'd still be interested in your written posts (or anyone else who cares to).
At just first look, it appears to be one of the bigger scams taking place, or attempting to be one of the bigger ones. The many promos and mailers I won't bother to clutter up the board with, but here's the pumpanddump mailer on it thats floating around.
The number listed was the one the previous mod mistakenly put there and as much as attempt that can be put time to, the I-Box will continue to correct and update data and numbers as they come in with links or contact info if possible.
That includes but not limited to the data for well production, severances, and other reports required by law for oil and gas wells of the State of Texas, financial reports, attorney letters (or lack thereof), any SEC filings, etc.
If one sees that there is a new report, information, or update on a link, please send the link so that it can update as necessary.
Sites such as the RCC, SEC, etc are always updating, sometimes have their own site issues, and the fact that there isn't any mod who can put their full time into an I-Box will lead to needing patience to continuously update and/or correct.
But I don't believe that BNPD numbers, data, and real verifiable facts are any laughing matter or "funny". I believe a good attempt should be made to make those facts as accurate as the source in which they came.
There may be some that is subjective such as copy and paste from the company website, but things like actual reports and data required by law for the wells, categorization by State or legal entities, reports or contact data, will be confirmed by links or other verifiable valid sources.
Thanks for any or all patience in order for the I-Box to be one of many good resources to go to for information of the company.
Looks like someone needs to be directed to this post once again. LOL
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Some types and description of lies that can easily be recognized that the ones behind this ticker BEHL has done and/or continue doing.
Discussing the particulars of every instance (that are many) may be a waste of time. It is up to any prospective BEHL investor or trader to do that research for themselves. It can easily be done and any amount of common sense or intelligence can quickly see the myriad of BEHL lies.
To discuss with or point out to "longs" or "stuckholders" that already know, just refuse to see, or to any continued low life promotion/promoter is quite pointless.
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Lying by omission
One lies by omission when omitting an important fact, deliberately leaving another person with a misconception. Lying by omission includes failures to correct pre-existing misconceptions. Also known as a continuing misrepresentation.
Big Lie
A lie which attempts to trick the victim into believing something major which will likely be contradicted by some information the victim already possesses, or by their common sense. When the lie is of sufficient magnitude it may succeed due to the victim's reluctance to believe that an untruth on such a grand scale would indeed be fabricated.
Barefaced lie
A barefaced (or bald-faced) lie is one that is obviously a lie to those hearing it. The phrase comes from 17th-century British usage referring to those without facial hair as being seen as particularly forthright and outwardly honest, and therefore more likely to get away with telling a significant lie. A variation that has been in use almost as long is bold-faced lie, referring to a lie told with a straight and confident face (hence "bold-faced"), usually with the corresponding tone of voice and emphatic body language of one confidently speaking the truth. Bold-faced lie can also refer to misleading or inaccurate newspaper headlines, but this usage appears to be a more recent appropriation of the term.
Contextual lie
One can state part of the truth out of context, knowing that without complete information, it gives a false impression. Likewise, one can actually state accurate facts, yet deceive with them.
Economical with the truth
Economical with the truth is popularly used as a euphemism for deceit, whether by volunteering false information (i.e., lying) or by deliberately holding back relevant facts. More literally, it describes a careful use of facts so as not to reveal too much information, as in speaking carefully.
Exaggeration
An exaggeration (or hyperbole) occurs when the most fundamental aspects of a statement are true, but only to a certain degree. It is also seen as "stretching the truth" or making something appear more powerful, meaningful, or real than it actually is.
Fabrication
A fabrication is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth, without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true. Although the statement may be possible or plausible, it is not based on fact. Rather, it is something made up, or it is a misrepresentation of the truth. Examples of fabrication: A person giving directions to a tourist when the person doesn't actually know the directions. Often propaganda is fabrication.
Lying in trade
The seller of a product or service may advertise untrue facts about the product or service in order to gain sales, especially by competitive advantage. Many countries have enacted consumer protection laws intended to combat such fraud.
Lying by obsolete signage
Examples are the continued use of old stationery that has printed information such as a previous telephone number, or advertising that remains painted on a wall after an enterprise has ceased business.
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Holding on to shares at this point for some hopeful event to get any money back does not take in the effect the inevitable R/S. The inevitable R/S or even the ticker going to absolute NO VOLUME with NO BID. Time that it will take, one could have put that money, even though it is a loss with BEHL, to some other better use or better hope at least.
Once a R/S happens or there is not even the million here or there shares getting bought, there will not even be the money the shares are worth at this point. Given that worth is not much now, but will more than likely be worth even less later and even harder to get rid of them.
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That’s sure is quite short of the stated 48% (pretty bad math there), and more like around 14%. But like I stated a few trades can be put in and there is a small use for flipping, could use more volume for my style, but can’t always have everything. A little longer term, doesn't really look so great. Not anything to do with me, it is what it is, and I’m not the type to deny (like some do) when a couple of weeks it is in a downtrend and it has got a little push or bounce from the bottom of that downtrend.
But it has a ways to go to match the last roll. From the last high top it was down about 51%, meaning it needs about a 102% increase from the low of the bottom to just match. It’s done about half that right now, so again good job to any respectable trader getting any of it. Given that a big portion of the volume is just the paid promo/momo team or other non common retail sources, and is one of the reasons I stated it’s “a cautious game at best”.
But here’s the rest of the post that comments of “thanks” was given, and “you’re welcome”.
I've got a close of .0227 last Fri.
Close of .0259 Today
Guess that needs some creative accounting to put some misleading spin for exuberant percentages on that one. Use the high of today and low of last Fri, that will sound better.
Way down from the high of the last peak or push of three weeks ago at .034.
Volume isn't the greatest. It may be up a bit for the average, but depending what days you use, it still isn't very good for the average volume during the times of promo pps push for the last tops in the last few months. Along with the elusive .03 still out of reach.
Guess the BNPD promo/momo team better step it up and use some more funds. Kudoos to any of the common "Joe" or "Jane" trader that manages some profit on all the BNPD hype. Still a very cautious game at best, the harder the hype, the harder and faster the fall will be. Always something or some that will destroy any run, usually the pinky promo team right when they are at the hieght of their promo (who of course at the same time say they would never LOL).
Too bad the company can only try to fluff up some already old wells that they had a lease on. But those wells are historically very Low or NO-producing wells (see I-Box for links) and the only thing that is going on is Gouger transfering the cost of sitting there on them to the shareholders of a pinky shell IMO.
Gouger is having a hard time doing even that. After stating in a PR "in the following days" on 5/20/11 over two months ago, still no sign of any SEC filings except paid BNPD promo team stating the same over and over everyday.
Gouger has done nothing but have a hard time, including with his oil business. Constant violations and failing reporting standards for even the little bit of oil business he has done in the last few years (again see I-Box for REAL DD and links, all hype aside). But that is again nothing new, Gouger has had a history of permit and saftey violations even before this particular lease was taken over about three years ago.
But as far as just trading, there might be or has been a trade or two which doens't have anything to do with the viability of the company but only on paid promotional tactics or BNPD momo that can be mustered up. And to that I wish "Joe" or "Jane" good luck.
You mean BirdCrudGang. The penny.com want a be. Bunch of jokers. They have been responsible for turning this stock into a pump and dump. They must have some more shares to get rid of and going to try to do another spike. Sure wouldn't fall for it.
At least they admitted that I was right last week when I stated BNPD was in a downtrend. Has been for about two weeks now. I also stated about the paid promo that appears on posts on this board that creates those spikes and was right when I stated that it was at the top of one last Fri and many technicals were indicating another dip. Exactly what happened. Also went lower on higher volume.
This thing is forming similar appearance to a Pump and Dump chart with lower highs and lower lows. Coming down to match the last longer term low of about a month ago. Problem is is that time it was above the 50 day and bounced off of it, now it has plunged below and with it has many negative techs where they were positive for that last low. Plus, many are just getting aware of the paid promo tactics and MOMO is more scarce.
But shorter term 5 tick trend candles definitely show downtrend and the only thing BirdPooStock is going to do is maybe get another spike to sucker some into buying their shares. Maybe good for another day trade if the birdpoo can pull it off.
Did you see only one well that was operating? On the website
http://www.rrc.state.tx.us/data/online/index.php#
There is an interactive map that shows the well placement.
Which one is the picture of?
Do you have pics of the permits for each of the four wells? What are the permit numbers with the corresponding API#'s.
Three of the wells are about 100ft or so from each other, the other is a little bit farther from the others.
I'm not questioning your word, just was looking for pics of the different wells and the permit numbers that went with each of them.
Where are you getting those numbers? Is there some documented report or just off the PR by the company. The field is not getting anything close to that 20 bpd and I really doubt that it will. Not on any 30 day basis anyway. And there is doubts that it has a reserve anywhere near the amount the company has PR'd. It's almost a given that any pinky PR is over stated and one must take that fact in view when certain projections are given.
At any rate, whatever the bpd is or will be has to be shown on documented reports, so will be interesting to watch for that.
Where are the costs coming from. Are they expenses from any audited financials of BNPD? Or are there any links to verifiable data confirming that maybe what it should be or is. Of course, some wells don't do as well as others when it comes to getting the last of the oil out and expense to operate low producing wells are considerably more than better producing wells in relationship of expense per barrel of oil.
Also lets be clear on what exactly "ownership" is when it is "working interest".
BNPD (Gouger) is 25% "working interest" in lease paying the operator Tejones (Gouger). Shareholders of BNPD (no such thing as TXOM, just wishing and hoping at this point, which are not very good investment strategies) are paying Gouger (Tejones Operating Corp) whatever Gouger wants to pay himself.
Since Gouger (Tejones Operating Corp) hasn't been able to do much for years besides the same wells PR'd in the way of oil operations and these wells don't seem to put out much, are probably not very efficient when compared to the expense of operating to production of oil, and not have a whole lot of profit, it only seems fitting that he buys up some low end pinky shell and have shareholders pay for any operations.
Operations that he has been doing there already. Working, "re-working", whatever one might want to call it, he in fact has been there for some time verified by documents and reports.
In this business, one can call every day going back in and beginning to re-work the wells. Looks like just procedures of the industry, nothing spectacular thats for sure. And these wells seems like such small puddles of oil in comparison. On a thirty day basis, average barrels per day for the last report was only a few barrels per day.
I know oil prices are up, but I just don't think thats going to cut it for the amount of "working" the wells it's going to take to get the last of the puddles out. If it did, Tejones wouldn't need to work with a pinky shell, he would just go and make some money with the oil. But share selling a pinky shell is a lot less work and a lot easier and more profitable I guess.
Production reports, when Tom Gouger as Tejones Operating Corp has been working or "re-working" the wells, any lack of proper permits, etc can be and have been verified by may "eyes" witnessing and can be further documented here:
http://www.rrc.state.tx.us/data/online/index.php#
Again here are the numbers and data one can use to search through any reports, permits, actions, etc., etc for these wells.
Operator name: Tejones Operating Corp
Operator # 841338
Lease or RRC # 01090
Field #22897001
Lease name: Bryan Estate
API#03902624 #1; API#03902625 #2; API#03902626 #3; API#03902627 #4
http://www.rrc.state.tx.us/data/online/index.php#
One should expect BNPD (no ticker change yet, but it is Gouger) to be out there and Tejone Operating Corp (or Texas Oil and Minerals) to have some operating equipment out on the site.
It is about the ONLY site that Gouger has been operating and producing oil from for about three years now. Although it has not been much in comparison to how much is really needed to substantiate any PR forward looking statements or validate any exuberant or even decent pps.
Don't mean to belittle any effort or time to snap a few pics of the site, maybe snap a pic of the current and valid permit for each of the wells if possible. Not sure if they are even following the proper permits or safety regulations since Gouger has had a history of violating those rules and regulations.
Probably it would be good to compare with other sites that are actually pumping good business and plenty of oil and see how the site compares.
But the bottom line is how much oil is actually produced and the expenses that BNPD (not TXOM until there are filings showing at OTCBB.com) for example is paying itself Tejones Operating Corp to operate it. Only 25% "working interest" is BNPD or Texas Oil and Mineral and any profits Tejones does for their service is Gougers and not the shareholders; nor does Tejones services depend on profit from the wells and can get paid their fees from shares sold in BNPD whether BNPD shareholders profit or not.
Checking of production reports, permits, etc, etc can be quite helpful in any real DD on the company. Like I said they should be out there, the majority of anything that Gouger been doing with oil is out there at that site, even though it hasn't been much compared to the rest of the oil industry. In the bottom of the pack group for oil production and this site is also in the bottom for the majority of profitable oil operations.
So it shouldn't be any surprise or oddity that they are at least still in fact there. It matches to all the production reports. But now the shareholders are going to foot the bill and pay them to continue to work these measly producing wells that by the reports are again falling in production on the average monthly numbers.
And one can go to the Texas authority site and correlate that this field is about the only oil producing operations for Gouger and get every month for years back such as this one. But Tejones reports will compare to the field production report given for the entire time since Gouger took it over.
http://www.rrc.state.tx.us/data/online/index.php#
Looking like that pinky "sweet deal" for the ticker owners more all the time. Seems like there is an "owning" (25%) of a "working interest" lease with a company, BNPD (Texas Oil and Minerals) that pays itself and owner of the operating company (Tejones Operating Corp) with shareholders "financing" through shares of a public pinky company. Public companies are "financed" through selling either directly or indirectly of shares, nothing new about that.
Sure looks like this paying by itself (Tom Gouger and Texas Oil and Minerals, BNPD i.e.: shareholders) is paying itself (Tom Gouger and Tejones Operating Corp) to operate the wells. Not saying anything is a scam or illegal, but not so sure that it's such a "sweet deal" for shareholders and somewhat like the fox guarding the henhouse.
Wells (the “henhouse”) that have not done quite the production as what BNPD PRs want to impress upon the public it seems. Listed here is the production for 2010 and 2011 for that Bryan Estate which correlates to the income of Tejones Operating Corp production which for the most part were only this site. Now of course I'm sure there is more data and would hate to have anyone take anything out of context, just trying to figure this out. There should be some expense to those operations and what profit from the disposition and it should be fully disclosed and with some rare pinky transparency with verifiable links or documents.
I do understand that the "forward looking statements" are trying to submit that with some fancy dancy process and/or equipment that there will be some better production. But this is just a report of what the Bryan Estate did do. Not sure how many hours a day or how many days per month they actually operated at this point to get that "average per day" mark of 12 barrels that was PR'd or exactly what numbers they used. But averaging these numbers are considerably less than the 12 barrels just using even 20 days per month, and they should at least be operating that many days per month.
Also, like a pinky stock pps, it can go up and down with oil production numbers no matter whether it’s in a downtrend or uptrend. But there is an observation that the numbers of the two wells already in production as stated by the PR that the trend of oil production is going down and average per month is falling and the fact that the “future looking statement” only falls in the current average per well when all four wells are worked from their numbers. The increase of production is only by just getting the additional two wells going.
Maybe the bold got missed, also goes for ones who really might know some good DD on oil production, leases, confirming that oil production, processes, or lease and profit capabilities specifically for BNPD, Texas Oil and Minerals and the State of Texas area in which they supposedly operate.
Maybe a little help.
Tom Gouger has been working that site and leases since about 3 years ago, so that part is nothing new:
Operator name: Tejones Operating Corp
Operator # 841338
Lease or RRC # 01090
Field #22897001
Lease name: Bryan Estate
API#03902624 #1; API#03902625 #2; API#03902626 #3; API#03902627 #4
If any of those numbers or names are pasted on a sign.
Production report for the last month reported which was May for Tejone Operating Corp
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Continuing on regarding BNPD and their future looking statements of production and profit abilities for actually doing business of pumping oil (to or from the moon or anywhere else). The hype is all about the four wells that BNPD (Texas Oil and Minerals) has got and that’s showing that oil will indeed be pumped to and from the moon, or at least profits will be. (Ok, again being a little sarcastic, but just can’t help myself sometimes with these pinks.)
There was a PR on 6/1/11 stating this:
A couple of requests for input from the DD board with going over a little with BNPD. It has been oil company play with a purchase of a shell that was long ago a soft drink company that had gone dark quite a ways back with it just being a shell with no product, no officers, and only an empty shell when purchased by Tom Gouger.
And of course the thing is being pumped to have some great pps value of a ticker change and pumping oil to and from the moon (a little sarcasm of course there). A simple ticker change that has been being over rated now about every day, all day, for about 2 months and has yet to come about. But it does bring up a couple of questions for this board with anyone that might have some good DD or info regarding a couple of things.
Please, I'm not asking for any debate with any pumper clowns, carnival barkers, or circus turkeys, (nor will I waste my time getting into any debate with the like), but some real input from anyone who might have some intelligent thought on it I would welcome.
One; within the time of being a dark shell, the story immerges that the shell owner Pulver gives, issues, sells, whatever millions of shares to his then buddy Roger Pawson. For whatever reason, any deal between Pulver (original owner of BNPD shell) goes funky and they seen to not be so much buddies anymore. Pulver sells the shell to Tom Gouger, Texas Oil and Minerals and word comes about via the pumpers that those shares in question were cancelled or put a temporary freeze on them.
Now the question is that what options does Gouger have, a word is that it is Gouger that has to either now get a court order to continue any “freeze” or cancellation or do some other means to have the TA give some sort of statement or legal doc on those shares. Another word since it is really Gougers move to do something, that Pawson can just wait and have those BNPD shares once again to sell. Of course part of the pump is that since no one can link to any court docs or law suit from Pawson that the shares are safe and there won’t be any future selling or effect on the pps when there is.
But there is some thought that there won’t be any ticker change until these shares are accounted for and this issue taken care of, and that it is Gouger that needs to have any action looked for and that to just continue to “circus turkey call” out that there is no lawsuit found is of course just trying to hide the fact that these shares are an issue. Now I can’t see these shares that were supposedly issued by the TA to Pawson just being able to magically disappear. And I can’t see any of the three (Roger Pawson, J.D. Pulver, and Tom Gouger) wanting or letting this get to the courts or any lawsuits. But wonder what some thoughts were on all of it.
Of course the company BNPD isn’t coming forth with any full disclosure or transparency with the issue, but that can be pretty much expected since it has put itself right in the middle of the dubious pinky market where the largest majority by far is more in business to sell shares than really succeed in any real company business.
Number two issue is about actual oil production and site or oil leases that are pertaining to all the wonderful common pinky PR fluff and hype of gobs and gobs of oil and profit that BNPD is going to have in the future. But since there are links and some pics of docs and it has its own subject I’ll put that on the next post and leave any questions, answers, or opinions to this one for now.
Daily trend candles, bulk of trades have been settling for lower price. Yes it could turn up again for short term, but it may not.
5 tick trend candles (since we are talking current "trend"). Yes we get spikes partially instigated by BNPD paid promotion and trying to keep this thing from sinking below supports, but for the week ("current trend") the line is downward. IFTRSI, PPO, CCI, TMF, COG all indicating another downward dip.
Like I said it can be interpreted anyway one likes and infinite number of ways, with infinite of different charts and it depends on time frame and style of trading. I trade and interpret charts for me and I profit that way for the most part. But anyone can be misinformed by pinky hype as they please. Or choose to go on all nite with silly chart arguments, good luck with that, but again everyone should do their own for their own money.
Still not going to take care of the BS that is going on behind the scenes with the problems of this ticker and transfer of the shell. That is another issue and again it won't be waved away by simple BNPD hype saying it will. The SEC or FINRA doesn't pay any attention to that. And by the way, just looked and no new filings with SEC or OTCBB.com. Looks like we might just be getting another fluff PR of "soon", or "next week" or some other misleading BS fluff statements.
We can discuss technical after technical, I've been around so long that I know enough to know that the simple technicals are used and abused by company paid hype and promoters and used as fodder for about anything.
One day the pps closes green on a downward trend and it’s used as "look we broke the 20 Day" "whoopee" and another day when it closes negative the remarks are "well, the close doesn't portray the worth of the company and can't be paid much attention too".
Both kinds of statements have been used on the BNPD hype. Instead of wasting time discussing the literally hundreds of hundreds of technicals, my only point is that when anyone says green on a chart, it can be said red in some other technical, and vice versa. And it can go on all day and night.
What I know (since you asked) is profitable for me and my management of my money and I would suggest to anyone that once it is learned the basic knowledge of a chart or its technicals to expand that knowledge and learn so much more and do it for oneself, not just go on all the BNPD penny.com want to be and paid advertising.
At this point, BNPD is on a general downward trend with shell share transfer problems and two months since the original hype of a simple ticker change and down 50% from the high of that time. And so what that the ticker changes, big deal. The pps could change and go up a bit, but all I've seen is profits that can be gotten in hrs or days and no real long term positive aspects.
Again there is no real transparency or full disclosure with this company and only found in fluff PR's that are always misleading and paid promotional teams with just words, but never the real thing.
Along with my knowledge of charts and many, many of its technicals is the fact in the pinky world, BNPD included, is that the stronger the hype and stronger any uptrend is, the harder it falls in the longer term and that holds true no matter what technical one wants to talk about.
Why some say charts are worthless down in the pinks, and it is partially true in many cases. But to learn to interpret certain technicals in ways that are much more advanced than the basic common simplicities are a good thing to thrive for and that is what I know and would suggest to anyone to know it as well.
Maybe, you might be right. Just never know, but it can also continue down with its current trend just as easy. Depends on whether one is "trading" or "investing" and how much risk one wants to take on and in what time frame. Definitely have some negative issues that are coming into play on this one.
And red is red. About two months ago, this thing topped out at .044, now down about 50%.
Yes, that topping the 20 Day by about .0003 was real exciting. Especially since the 20 Day has been on a downward slope for about 30 days now. Makes that close above a bit easier to get at EOD when the 20 Day is coming down to meet it. LOL
Again, I wouldn't suggest to anyone to hold their breath for any lawsuits, not to say they couldn't happen, just wouldn't hold my breath for them.
What I will expect is for sometime in the future selling of some "mysterious" shares or "mysterious" reasons and this problem be somehow attempted to be pushed away in a dark closet covered by BNPD promotional means so that no one will be looking at it.
Sorry about the mistake, looking at trend candles for a moment there. High of last Fri .028 high this Fri and how much percentage down? Along with generally most shares selling for lower with a downward trend. For the bulk of the shares, RED, RED, RED on the week.
BNPD RED for the week. High and close of this Fri is lower than of last Fri.
One of the comments going around is that Pawson just needs to sit and wait; it is Gouger that has to initiate some court order to follow through with some temporary action.
But I doubt too many will really know all of what went on when Pulver gave those shares to Pawson or all the specific details attached to the issuing, and I'm definitely not going to defend either and try to distinguish differences of who’s a crook or a thief.
Many will not pay attention to what will happen to the shares and it will have every effort to have hidden any problems to the general public by all involved.
But it does and will bring attention by any regulatory entity and with the increased scrutiny of these transferred shells, may continue to be an issue. Whether or not one wants to believe that these shares were "stolen" or not, the real fact is that they were issued and are floating around like some sort of stinky goo on a scum pond. They just don't go away with a magic wand or the mere statements of BNPD hype.
That’s just the way it is with these shells. I've stated before that they are getting to be like used TP and too many of them should have been flushed long ago. There are always some issues involved with them, just the way it is.
IMO, I don't think any of these guys really want it in the courts (i.e.: on Pacer) and common sense would tend to think that some other means would be used in order to move on and have the issue settled. I would half expect some sort of note or debt listed, but who really knows at this point.
What exactly that is going to entail is all part of the waiting game. But any real and total disclosure and/or total openness from the pinky company will only be found on BNPD hype and paid promotional ads, twits, misleading fluff PR's, etc in "future looking" or hype words only.
Reality, it is what it is.
Very true, the clearer head is most always sitting on the sidelines looking in.
If only it was reasonable to short a penny stock. It sure would be an easy target, thats a guarantee win with something like that.
But, for most retail, it isn't, one would have to get the shares to short and pay out big time in order to even try to do it. It just isn't feasiblele and way too much hassle for the most part.
But if it was, there is nowhere but down in pps for that to go and then guess what? Increase in A/S in order for more share selling business profit. Very vicious circle for any normal "investor".
I wasn't a bit surprised either and expected it not to. One can blame the two months of delay on the Government or even "vacations", but BNPD is going to have to get the BS between Pawson and Pulver settled out, and that is quite the stickler. But I would suspect both of them are going to be selling shares in the future. Of course all IMO and no thanks necessary for it.
But whether or not there is acceptance to the fact of a mess between Gouger, Pawson, Pulver, and the shell, it will still continue to get in the way for a bit longer and agree its just a waiting game. Of course results of the game and its connection to the pps and share structure of BNPD is always debatable.
The BNPD hype and positive will express that there is no problem and oil will be pumped from the moon and others will admit that there very well might be a problem and have certain effects on any future pps. But it does continue to be a waiting game.
Yes I agree, glad that post was also given.
Well stated. It was very gracious of you to even give such an explanation of whether or not "you owned shares". There seems to be quite the ridiculous notion that someone has to own shares or even want to in order to discuss a stock, its promoters, or insiders. The posts of "move on", "why are you here" kind of BS is just totally illogical and only used as fodder for pumper clowns.
These boards, unless specifically for something else other than the particular stock or company (and include many companies or stocks), are for discussion of that particular company and its people behind them like paid promoters, shell owners, officers, etc.
There is no "admission" (with exception of course to non free boards) required for discussion or reason to be there and anyone has every right to come in and discuss and put out information or give their opinion on any particular stock and their insiders.
There is also can be a line drawn sometimes what the actual "company" owns and what the insiders or shell owners own. For example, Pawson many times has been stated not to be an actual officer, but does have many involvements with several "companies" (term in which used very loosely) including BNPD, and definitely has an effect with shares owned and sold and does have effect in the pps of each of those "companies".
But all this interest in whether or not anyone has shares of any company is more or less irrelevant and only maybe a very small part in one’s own decision to have any.
Factual reasons why one does or doesn't might have more relevance and again it was very gracious of BB to give those.
And the link to Scions board where I picked it up.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=65466549