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I hear about how "DF" had guts and took it on the chin and BS like that. Thats a load of course, he was just about to have it all down his throat put there from his a$$ and he knew it. So he did the only thing he knows and try to put some spin on it the best he could.
He knew his stolen identity was going to be exposed, and the fact BEHL and himself had failed miserably and there was no money, no product, no real assets, and nothing but debt was mostly known already (other than ones who didn't want stop playing with the three monkeys). He basically didn't have any choice but what he did -- a little truth mixed in with some more lies. But he has no honor or "guts" and now he only basically said that this is a shell to try to continue selling with some last ditch effort to "turn around" some more people (and even some same ones) to give them some more of the same.
Roger Pawson is attempting to find a new puppet with this Michael Burton and continue raking in the same money he has been doing, getting every last .0001 of this game along with the "Baby name stealer" hoping to get some cut in the near future.
Still just a bunch of lier's, thieves, and crooks. They always believe in "there is a sucker born every minute" along with some are probably willing to still live in a fallacy, just "blame Ihub", and "turn around" once more to receive another dream.
Just "turn around", they'll show you.
I love the new "buzz" word that's been going around for buying and selling shell games. "Turnaround", you bet, sounds like a good buzz word to me. Those people have great experience in "turnarounds", all the bag-holders are in the middle of experiencing one. Just "turn around" they'll make ones dreams come true.
Well the truth sayers or "bashers" are going to continue to tell the truths about the crook DF or ? DF is a nothing, BS lier, and nothing is anybodies fault except mostly DFs and Pawsons.
Boo hoo hoo, poor DF, its others fault for telling truths, aww what a shame. If those 7-8 thousand whatever number, who knows what the real number is, would of listened to the truths, DF and his cohorts wouldn't have been able to be so responsible for the losses of BEHL.
My jaw would drop if they talked about how much money Roger Pawson has been taking. Yep, same people, same game, same song.
Not up to me whether or not a poster wants to post pics or has taken them, nothing I can do about it either way. I'm quite sure though that the condition described would be a pretty accurate description of the condition at BEHL headquarters.
Trying to put attention on minuscule details or made up "rumors" or "accusations" is not going to change the condition of this stock or what is going to happen and what has happened. But good for some "story" yet to be written I guess, maybe someone can make a TV movie or at least some B movie out of it.
I heard "allegedly" and "rumored" that this "DF" vandalized stuff to make it look like someone else did it. Lots of allegations and rumors floating around. This is fun.
I have no doubt that the doors are closed at BEHL headquarters, seems quite naive to think otherwise at this point. Over twenty years owning property and dealing in property management in both commercial and residential areas, nothing surprises me anymore on the condition of the way things get left.
Heavy accusations? What? Demian is doing the interview, thats involved. He's the one who told me that he had "a large position in BEHL". And the previous interviews and how he has conducted them is matter of record and they aren't "hard" interviews.
Do I think it's a scam when a shell is still selling shares for "investment" purposes and there are some who have done nothing but practically 7 days a week for months promoting BEHL and has been nothing but wrong on what they've said? Yes, for my purposes, I call that a scam and fully believe that it is.
One can go "WOW" and think what they want and continue to buy into this thing and think or believe its not a scam, thats their prerogative.
So don't even go with the "slander" and "libel" BS, thats what it is, just BS.
Like I said, the REAL surprises are yet to come. Stay tuned.
No worries on "gentleness". Demian isn't going to get hard on him, remember, Damian is or was greatly invested and a "bag-holder" and backs this scam and really just does info commercials for DF and tries to help keep this deception alive.
I wouldn't even be surprised if it was pre-recorded with "questions" on cue to make it seem legitimate.
Oh, I think this is going to be a hoot to see it all unfold, won't be a bit surprised. There will be ones who are though. It seems that the frustrations that one speaks of are ones who are believing in liars, frauds, and crooks and ignoring the facts and trying to give some sainthood to ones who call themselves "Dennis Fisher", "Phaeton", etc.
We are all "waiting", just some of us actually know what is in store here and some of us have been nothing but right and will be right again.
Good luck with those thoughts and "grab those cheapies".
Dennis Fishers BS hasn't really started hitting the fan yet, but that fan is about to turn up a speed. The ship is sunk, just the salvage crew is finding what there is at the bottom and just about to find where the captain really has been.
Wrong assumptions only lose ones money. I removed the post that was off topic. Assume what one wants and lose as much money as one wants on "investing" in BEHL. This is coming to an end and denial or posting about made up relationships won't change that.
It definitely is a trait among people that have lost everything and not listened for months or longer to all the ongoing facts about this company -- kept pumping and arguing the viability of BEHL with others that knew and expressed what was going to happen -- to find somebody else to blame but themselves and to hang desperately on to the fallacy they have continued to pump. This fallacy is/was a man calling himself "Dennis Fisher". That fallacy they cannot except being that this "man" is a fraud, thief, manipulator, lier, criminal, has controlled and been the heart of all of the deception going on, head cause of the downfall of BEHL, and has had a partner Roger Pawson that has been in the background raking in shareholders monies.
There are several characters I'm sure of this scam and has been promoted by the likes of a "Phaeton" who I believe has known the scam all along and has been considered the know all saint by the ones who have lost and not listened except for the BS of the ones "Phaeton" and "Dennis Fisher". So some peoples behavior now must find refuge in only battering some self indulged scapegoat, and not the true reasons for the misguided beliefs that they have had.
Quite amazing how much denial goes on when a death of dream happens. The dreamers bubble has popped and has left a void due to the many that have lacked abilities to think for themselves and have only followed what has sounded comfortable in order to keep the dream alive and not deal with the reality of the real life and death of BEHL.
So close to the stages of Kubler-Ross
Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance
The sooner one gets to the end stage, acceptance, the sooner one can learn, move on, and succeed in other things in their lives.
Pretty soon any "bag holder" won't even be able to get .0001. If and when this gets bought for a shell, there will be a increase in A/S or then a R/S and only the owners of the shell will make any money on it with the next scam. Shares are worthless. Better take the .0001 while one can.
Story is starting to get around. Little Blurb at Algea Magazine.
Bye Bye BioCentric?
December 20, 2010
AlgaeIndustryMagazine.com
The mysterious case of BioCentric Energy continues with a “Public Notice” that was recently posted on the home page of the BioCentric website reading: “On 12/10/2010, BioCentric Energy President and Board Member Monique Berry resigned from the Company in addition to BioCentric Energy Secretary, Nancy Lane Fisher, Controller and Board Member Frank Rawson, employees Helmut Gass, Renate Gass, Marla Kennedy, Kevin Cho and Judy Quang. Furthermore Monique Berry and Daniel Kennedy have no further association with BioCen Natural (BNPD).”
On their website, the only remaining members listed on the BioCentric team are currently Dennis Fisher, Chairman of the Board, and Pat Kuykendall, Site Supervisor.
For a company that seemed to show an aggressive approach to algae commercialization, one that maintained a very high presence at the NAA conference less than a year ago, the turn of events leaves many stockholders and industry observers wondering what happened.
Got more information on BioCentric? Please feel free to write us to pass it along editorial@AlgaeIndustryMagazine.com.
Algae Buzz
Now you going to get "shaking the tree" buying the "cheapies" bs.
The fact that is a statement for every post on every message board everywhere is your point.
Quite profound. Thanks for that, really appreciate it. Good job.
Great!! Your beliefs are all yours to have. Problem is, the pps is wavering on what you don't want to believe. And that is not opinion but fact.
But good luck to you, many might be just about to lose another 50% value from their "investment".
You have the choice to believe it or not. Don't believe it if you don't want. My verification is that it is for myself, one has the option of thinking anything they want or looking at all the information that has been presented and the odds that it is probably closer to being correct than the BS coming from the other side.
Let me get this straight. Can you provide verification that it isn't? Can you provide verification that the BS coming from the VW is anything accurate?
Believe what one wants. I understand that many want to take the attention off of certain things and put them on other things, but good luck with that. I believe the note is staying and I believe the VW is going to continue to sputter BS. And this stock is going to continue to worthlessness until this thing comes to its conclusion.
There are statements from DF in PRs, recorded interviews, etc. that are accused of being lies.
Just the way it is, neither you or I are going to change that.
Jeez BB, funny how there is so much crying about a little sticky note and some issue with its validity, yet a VW can sputter out so much smoke for great lengths of time and it's taken as gospel with no verification, in fact, most if not everything that has come out of the smoke has been false, and has had to be edited over and over and even deleted, yet it still is taken as gospel. Quite interesting.
Well thats the thing. DF is pretty much guilty no matter whether or not others get dragged into it. So being the only one left is going to drag this stock down to zero. And that will happen whether or not DF is the "only" one or not, because no matter, it will be his connection to his guiltiness that will be the destruction no matter what.
And if anyone even believes that DF is "innocent" and would come out smelling like a rose bringing in others, well that really is la la land.
But unfortunately your right with the rest about whats left of the shell.
Not much to discuss for the "story" part. You have one side that already said over here that things were getting ugly and going to get uglier with a lot of negativity towards the main man in charge, Dennis Fisher.
Then you have the promotion side of some "story" scrambling back to cover and blame everyone else and say things are going to get ugly for everyone else.
Great story read. Investment purposes and the REAL reason for the market is what is something going to be worth and for either one of the sides you want to be on -- dreaming that everything is going to be alright because there can be blame and ugliness on everyone else or the realist investment side knowing that it doesn't matter where the blame gets pointed too, any worth of this stock is going bye bye.
But discuss away at your hearts content, not sure how many listeners one will get over here, but one's own prerogative. Not going to change the pps or make it really feel any better. If one wants to "feel" good no matter what the pps is or going, there may be better places to have a podium in where all sorts of pretty colors comes out of a tail pipe.
Not the issue. The issue is not what color smoke is coming out some VW tail pipe, but that this stock is worthless, going down in value to zero. One thing to follow a story and to pass the time, but reality is that the market is that you buy if something might have some value, you don't or you sell if the value is going to zero.
This stock is going to zero. No worth, no reason to have it IMO.
Last chance to get .0002 then another 50% loss and then nothing.
I understand what point you want to believe and are defending. The bottom line is whether you believe what you want or against what you are saying. Both sides create such a negative situation and will make this stock worth nothing, let alone all the things that have been done and are already a matter of record will bring this stock down and has brought this stock down and will go to nothing even without the debate.
It's quite amazing what the bottom line argument is here and what the last resort is being played here. It is like having a debate where one says "BEHL is worth nothing" and the next person says "no way, your wrong, it's worth less than that". And vehemently each party arguing back and forth "no the stock is worth nothing", "no its worth zero", "no I say its worth nothing" on and on.
I don't think I've quite seen such a debate before. But really, bottom line dollar, that is what it is coming too. The end game here is what the shares are going to be worth and through all of the VW sputtering and blowing smoke out the tail pipe it has clearly shown what is happening and clearly shows what is going to happen.
There is no positive end result from what is been going on and the only true resolution that is going to happen is when this shell finally stops trading and no one wants what is being sold.
You might be right, there just very well might be the cohorts that are working with DF right now that will go with him. Promoter, puppeteer, etc will fit right with DF. Sounds good to me.
Your right shareholders aren't ignoring the truth, thats why the last year or more chart is the way it is. Looks like plenty of people are paying attention to the truth.
Oh, thats right, it's all because of "bashers", mm manipulation, and everyone else thats making the pps go lower and lower to worth nothing. For all this time, you bet. There is some misguided beliefs that it's not because of the real truth about dilution, deceit, and mismanagement by DF, but more and more shareholders are paying attention and there will be only a few comparatively left that will sink with the ship.
There are no current numbers of shareholders, so not many if at all know how many are left. So it's all speculation and opinion. The worth of the shares are not opinion but fact and the chart easily shows this.
DF has lit his own fire to his pot and this story will come to a close at some point. It isn't a witch hunt, just justice.
It was "rumored" that Phaeton was both shorting and selling, going back and forth with major amount of shares and is responsible for a lot of the VERT and FANC shares that were showing up. Trying to create volume along with using the MMs as a conduit to try to manipulate the pps and making very big money which included selling shares paid to him by DF, Pawson, etc. And to hide his affairs by playing a big act on the message board.
It has been "rumored" that "Phaeton" is Dan Ryan, Roger Pawson or maybe his son Alex Padilla, or even DF himself, or some combination taking turns. The only thing most can agree on is that he is not the person he makes himself out to be, part of DFs BS, and is only BS trying desperately to hold together the last of the "flock" that is realizing one by one that this game is not a good one.
Not any facts confirmed (yet) and all just "rumors". Lots of them going around as I'm sure there will be more.
I believe everyone should report their concerns to the SEC which ever side of the track one might be on. As has been stated before, it will be best for everyone to get as much attention by the Federal entities allowing them to be aware of all concerns.
That way anything can turn into facts by the right authorities. So if anyone has concerns about "rumors", posts on this board or that board, shorting, or how DF, Phaeton, and/or any cohorts have conducted themselves, please report to the SEC.
My belief is that there has to be more control and attention by the SEC to the entire pinky market. There is just too much to tempt too many in just selling shares and not business. There has to be a valid way in order for small businesses with valid product or ideas and valid science, company officers, and management teams to succeed and prosper. But there is just way too much BS and criminal activity when it comes to Pinkys. To many stock share sales people, ones who do nothing but buy up shells for profit by the shell not product or idea, BS promoters, and garbage like DF, "Phaetons", or others like them.
My little rant and my free speech and opinion, but the more people that yell to places like the SEC, the more the SEC will have to pay attention and at least enforce more diligently which will level the game a bit more fairly, maybe even giving reason not just to trade but actually "invest" and even increase the chances of small penny business success.
It was DD from "nodummy"
I was only a messenger, thanks goes to him.
Thank you Monique for your honesty and sincerity in your post and the fact that you have even done it. My respect for you has greatly increased and again apologize publicly for any and all rudeness or bad thoughts toward you that I've shown in the past. Believe me when I say it was due to the actions of DF (whoever or whatever he is) and his cohorts and the impression that was causing BEHL to show, creating a very negative portrayal. At least to an outsider.
Thank you again and hope to hear more from you if you decide you want or have the need. Please feel free with your openness and integrity. I wish you luck and hope your future and others beside you are much better than the recent past. I believe it will be.
CNEX - Cannon Exploration, Inc -just some quick DD from nodummy
Somebody asked me earlier today to take a look at CNEX - Cannon Exploration, Inc. The following is just some quick initial findings (basically an overview of the company). I may spend some more time looking deeper later.
CNEX - Cannon Exploration, Inc.
Immediate Red Flags
Extremely high share counts (from 10-26-2010)
Float - 2,368,061,569
O/S - 2,548,061,569
A/S - 3,500,000,000
Limited Information on the OTC/Pink Sheets
- Share Count not provided there since June 30, 2010 (980,155,941 O/S) and Jan 19, 2010 (15,891,961 float)
- Auditor/Accountant not provided
- Legal Counsel not provided
- IR not provided
Float has increased by over 2,352,000,000 in less than 10 months
O/S has increased by over 1,567,000,000 in less than 4 months
Incorporated in Delaware
Canadian Mining Company
TA is from Canada - Global Sentry Equity Transfer Inc
They use a Regus Virtual Office
2575 East Camelback Road
Suite 450
Phoenix, Arizona 85016
United States
http://www.regus.com/Arkansas/virtualoffices/az.html
Unimpressive Website:
http://www.cannon-exploration.com
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No 8-K or 10K filings for any of the PRed transactions or acquisitions or mining projects
No real operations can be verified with the SEC/OTC filings. Seems like nothing but a company diluting hundreds and hundreds of millions of shares into the open market while saying they are looking for mining opportunities and making very slow progress on their Queen Alexandra claim
From the last Quarterly report (no operations):
http://www.otcmarkets.com/otciq/ajax/showFinancialReportById.pdf?id=39361
Based on older filings they seem to have one pretty worthless sounding mining claim (website says formerly producing) called The Queen Alexandra mine which cost only $170,000 to fulfill the requirements to obtain the rights.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/otciq/ajax/showFinancialReportById.pdf?id=29230
Some type of bare bone unimpressive report about the Queen Alexandra mine dated from August 2008 in the name of Major Management Exploration Service, Robert J Major, President, is on file:
http://www.otcmarkets.com/otciq/ajax/showFinancialReportById.pdf?id=29234
The claim is held in another name(Robert Joseph Major), and is being worked by a different company(International Precious Metals Group)?
Just some link for International Precious Metals Group:
http://www.mdn.fm/files/231604_apvq4/2_45154_900_WorkReportSummary.pdf
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ALL FILINGS REGARDING THE QUEEN ALEXANDRA MINE AND LATEST GOING CONCERNS:
Letter from the President of the company on the website dated November 26, 2010:
As is the case with the other junior exploration companies who do not have a source of revenue, Cannon has had to rely on equity financing for funding its activities. It has unquestionably caused dilution in the stock, and has been exacerbated by the sub-penny level of the share price and the dismal global economic climate. As noted in our recently released Q3 financials, Cannon is adequately funded to continue operations into the New Year, however, we want to make it clear to our shareholders that additional financing will have to occur to fund the activities being planned for 2011 and there will likely be an increase in authorized shares to accommodate this.
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PRESS RELEASES
Sept 16, 2010 (Updates Website with further information from Geology/Assessment Report
)(looks like they like to give out information about the unnamed geologist report in bits and pieces spread out over months)
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Cannon-Exploration-Updates-Website-With-Further-Information-From-Geology-Assessment-1319941.htm%3C/a%3E%3C/strong%3E%3C/p%3E
Aug 11 (Provides Information from Geology / Assessment Report)(1st 2 weeks of August must have been a big share selling period)
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Cannon-Provides-Information-From-Geology-Assessment-Report-1303159.htm
Aug 9 (Provides Update to Shareholders)
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Cannon-Exploration-Wishes-Provide-Its-Shareholders-With-Update-on-Queen-Alexandra-Project-1301671.htm
Aug 5 (Announces Ongoing Developments at Queen Alexandra)
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Cannon-Exploration-Announces-Ongoing-Developments-on-Queen-Alexandra-Gold-Property-1300933.htm
June 10 (Announces Completion of Geological Survey)
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Cannon-Exploration-Announces-Completion-of-Geological-Survey-Starts-Next-Phase-1274121.htm
May 27 (Announces Work Underway at Queen Alexandra)
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Cannon-Exploration-Announces-That-Work-Is-Underway-on-Companys-Queen-Alexandra-Gold-1267540.htm
May 10, 2010 (Announces Spring Exploration Program; Work to Start in Late May)
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=42736455&symbol=NO%5ECNEX
Apr 14, 2010 (Releases Assays From 'Queen Alexandra' Gold Property)
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Cannon-Exploration-Releases-iw-4251150316.html?x=0&.v=1
Mar 17, 2010 (Exploration Completes Latest Work Program on 'Queen Alexandra' Gold Property)
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Cannon-Exploration-Completes-iw-443346200.html?x=0&.v=1
Mar 15, 2010 (Exploration Resumes Work on 'Queen Alexandra' Gold Property)
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Cannon-Exploration-Resumes-iw-1701746988.html?x=0&.v=1
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Company Officers
Edwin Solano CEO
Gilbert Oliveros Dir.
Company Notes
* Formerly=Citisource, Inc. until 4-2008
* Formerly=China Shuangji Cement Corp. until 10-07
* Formerly=Citisource, Inc. until 6-06
CNEX was an empty non-reporting shell from 1987 until it became Cannon Exploration, Inc in 2008
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CONCLUSION:
Whether CNEX owns the rights to obtain revenue from the Queen Alexandra mine or not seems irrelevant at this point. The company has made if very clear in it's filings that it lacks the funding to move forward with any operations. Doing a 43-101 and making the mine into a producing mine costs lots and lots of money. Money they do not have.
Whether their intentions were honorable by diluting the stock to death I am not sure (if any gagging of the TA or hiding of the share counts - especially raising the A/S was being done then it probably wasn't very honorable). The company has diluted the stock into the grave. Based on my research I do not recommend investing in CNEX.
anyone who has undertaken criminal activity in regards to BEHl to be afraid of possible legal consequences
Interesting posts. What the real answer is going to be, 1) no one really knows, 2) even if they did it probably wouldn't be done, and 3) this cartoon seems to say what they do
It's also very common for scam pinkys coming out with statements of "legal actions" against supposed "bashers" on internet boards. It seems that only the dirtiest of pinky's use these tactics. The latest one I believe (although I can't keep up with them all) is SAEI.
Same type of statements of "were going to get those bashers" came from the company just last weekend I believe. Today it was halted by the SEC. Typical and statistical. In fact whenever a company starts using those type of threats should be a major red flag that the company is up to no good and should be shunned for any trading or investing.
Along with that, not to many times that law suits by either party help any pps, but in fact is a detriment.
Stupid hey. Your right that the IRS would rather have money, but wrong that they always get it. DF could have worked out something a long time ago if his intent was to "pay" taxes like the rest of us. No, his intent has been to use the system in getting out of paying his share and spending money irresponsibly owing way too many people and business along with shareholders and the rest of us who do pay taxes.
I really doubt this will be "all worked out", because that sure hasn't been DFs MO.
And these few things that have been stated on "owing taxes" are very minor compared to the impression I have and what might be the skeletons in his closet. That's why attention needs to be on him, his cohorts, and the actions that have taken place. Sure one is allowed to fail, but when it comes to intentionally failing and deceptive means brings a whole lot of other issues in play.
DF doesn't even want the attention that can and will be brought upon him and threats are only a last resort of desperation to try to stop that attention. Not going to work and in fact will backfire on him and others.
I'll have to disagree with you there Milehigh, there is always a need. The more the merrier in this case, it will get more and more attention and resources that are in short supply at the SEC and other Federal entities.
It will move the clock faster and less people will end up losing, along with that, these type of characters involved just do it again with another shell, scam, or "aliases". Unless it is stopped, they will just keep doing it way past the life of BEHL.
So, my opinion and recommendations of ones who know more than I in such matters, is for as many people filing a complaint or calling the authorities that possibly can, whether or not "they are on the case".
Greedy is correct and thanks for the other post on the BS of attempted intimidation. If I were the "intimidaters", I would worry about other law suits coming your way.
Los Angeles Regional Office
Rosalind Tyson, Regional Director
5670 Wilshire Boulevard, 11th Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90036-3648
(323) 965-3998
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Greedy_malone is right everybody should be contacting the SEC and filing a complaint
Does one know what VWAP is and what it tells one. Last week the pps was .0004-.0005, weeks before that .0005-.0006. Now .0002-.0003, that is not "holding". When there is only two numbers to pick from, one can come in at any point and say that it's this one or that one, thats it. Thats why the VWAP is useful. Yes, it will have a range also, but no matter, the range is going down and not "holding".
Any PR or Phaeton/promo site induced pps rise will be taken advantage of and sold into by more dilution. BEHL has been dead, just some shell selling is all that's going on. Putting some promotion out hasn't got enough BEHLevers to really get this thing going again. DF is low life and his actions aren't going to be changed at his point in his life other than putting him behind bars.
The daily VWAP keeps getting lower and lower and is at .00023 now, about the lowest its been. The 60 minute chart may be one of the easier charts to see the stair stepping down. Lower highs and lower lows. High volume - lower pps.
That is not "in circles", but a definitive trend down in price and the bulk of the shares are going for less and less of a price.
And the only thing that the BEHLevers can hold on too is "trusting" of more of DFs or Phaetons BS. But "knowing" may be a key point, but that is not anything to do with "hoping" or "believing".