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That's still optimistic!
Unless you're assuming that he will be fully clothed, disguised (hat sunglasses etc.) and shown from an extreme distance (say 10 miles).
Now if they were to put a picture of Bob anywhere in the book...
Is it possible for a book to have negative sales?
<VBG>
The Bird of Prey
Careful...
We'll have to start calling you an optimist if you keep that up. <g
Even IH wouldn't be able to afford to buy up that many copies to stimulate sales!
The Bird of Prey
Utter hogwash...
Barring outright manipulation (which is wrong no matter who does it) the opposite is true. The shorter is selling (and driving down the price) when everyone is buying, and buying (and driving up the price) when everyone else is selling. In the case of the real garbage stocks, the shorter is the entire buyer's market when everyone is dumping their stock for their 99.9% tax loss.
Let's see...
Buyer A buys at $1.50
Short Sell B sells short at same price.
Short sales drive stock price down to $0.05
Buyer A sells.
Short Seller B buys to cover.
Buyer A *LOST* $1.45
Short seller B *profited* $1.45
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out *WHERE* Short Seller B's *PROFIT* came from!
Regardless of rationalizations of short sellers (We ARE the market when the stock/market bottoms!) their profit is generated at the expense of longs. Simply providing the longs with someone to close out a position with is little consolation for the money often lost. That many shorts choose this time to literally and insult to injury is unconscionable.
This is the primary reason shorts and their supporting cast are so often vilified. The hatred screams loudest when, in the rare event of a short squeeze, longs can carry the return abuse to extremes that pale the worst dished out by shorts.
I agree that shorting has significant risks, and that one should heed the professional shorts when considering a purchase (or sale). I would hope that my research has been as good as many shorts claim theirs is.
Also, since technically, one is not supposed to be able to short pennies and microcaps legally here in the US in general, it would seem to me that anyone shorting these issues is likely involved in some kind of manipulation (and we may all be surprised at how pervasive it really is).
I am glad to read that you take no delight in the trash talk. It is truly a shame when good research loses credibility due to the verbal excesses of the researcher.
In closing,
You said I prefer to do my gambling in a casino. The drinks are free, and the food is better.
I will grant you the price of drinks, but you have no idea how good a cook I am!
Have a good day!
The Bird of Prey
Raining in Florida. Drives me insane. I'd rather we just bake in the 105* heat. Plus that means the girls wear short skirts.
Just what we need...an insane administrator. Besides haven't you ever noticed what happens to pretty girls wearing white T-shirts that get caught in the rain?
The Bird of Prey
PS BobandMattGay? ROFL! Couldn't have missed by a wider margin!
Of course not,
I expect you to tuck tail and run as usual.
The Bird of Prey
Maybe everything isn't a scam in that universe, but you're better off starting with that assumption.
Do you always see the glass as half-empty?
Quite frankly, I agree that a large number of Pennies/Microcaps (gotta have a new distinction since the tech collapse, eh?) aren't worth the paper they're printed on. But I look at it this way. It makes it pretty simple to eliminate a large number of issues from consideration when reviewing P/M's. Check out the few that remain closely, pluck down some loose change and see what happens.
I liken it to playing Blackjack, except I don't have to get on a plane and book a room in Vegas!
I've made a pretty penny (pun intended) or two this way. I don't follow alleged "gurus" of either side (I certainly won't pay one $600-$1000 a month for the privilege!). Occasionally I'll play something I've seen in a newsletter, but very rarely does that happen.
One thing that "bothers" me about the so called altruistic intent of so many bashers and those that support them. In spite of your commentary about "saving hoodwinked investors" from these "touts"...most of you openly admit to short selling these "scams" yourselves. Pardon me for saying so, but by doing so aren't you taking money from the very people you claim to be trying to help?
We are talking about the folks that didn't get stock in an IPO or other favorable circumstance. Most of these folks bought at the high (or near to it) and lose money as you make it! It makes the claim that you're trying to "save" these folks just a wee bit disingenuous. Throw in how some bashers then taunt these poor folks for "getting taken" and it just makes people *want* to hate you. And to top it all off we have the folks doing these "bashes" as a scam too!
Now before you get incensed Mark, I am not referring directly to you here. I have not read anywhere that you have sold anything short in this arena, you may have but that is your personal business. You are however, associating with some folks that have admitted selling short like this, so since you like to paint with a broad brush, I felt it appropriate to do like wise.
The Bird of Prey
I actually like it too!
question though...could the sort be done as a user toggled sort of thing? You know, our choice: sort by ticker or sort by board name?
The Bird of Prey
To avoid any appearance of rudeness...
Too late.
To be honest, I'm not surprised at your commentary nor your response to my rebuttal. Further, I certainly support your right to express your opinion as I would hope you would support the right of others to express theirs.
My #1 quibble with your latest missive is this assertion that your original post #msg-387664 was not directed at me.
The opening line from that message states This discussion seems to miss the significance of subjectivity.
The only "discussion" taking place on this thread at that time was one between Mark Marcellus and myself. If this was not the discussion to which you were referring, you failed to make clear to which discussion you were referring. Further, you once again used several "catch phrases" that, to date I have only seen in posts made by you referring to posts I have made.
You have mede it clear that you "have a problem" with my "public castigation" of IH administration.
While you have not said directly that "everyone" should share your view of the owners, your obvious opposition to one that clearly does not share that view coupled with your veiled invectives (coward, spoiled child, etc.) indicate at least a desire that those that disagree with your view should be silent (silenced?).
I will agree with you that defending maligned members is a noble concern. I disagree that Admin is exempt from public castigation in this regard. I also disagree that IH management has been simply exacting "just retribution" (though I accept that you may choose to view their actions this way).
I will also agree that there are some users here at IH in dire need of some public castigation. My point is that it makes Admin look bad when they are the ones dishing it out. Quite simply Admin has enough tools to reign in or eliminate those that choose to operate outside the community standards without having to resort to "flame wars" with users. Further, on several occasions now both Matt and Bob have uttered phrases similar to "I don't care what user X...(thinks, says wants)..."
yet still comment on how they want the site to grow. MY point again is "If you want the site to grow, show your customers respect."
Respecting the users here does not mean trying to make themselves subservient to every users whim. It does mean treating all users with common courtesy and decency...even those that don't deserve it. Unless of course all they want is a private playground to support a huge ego.
After careful thought on the topic "Respect is subjective?" I must disagree with your assessment. Both the *granting* of respect and the act of disrespecting are subjective. The respect itself, like courtesy, etiquette, politeness is not. It is a clearly defined set of parameters. you either abide by it or not.
But I don't expect you to understand such things...for while you claim to merely be expressing an opinion and self deprecate ad nauseum, you try sliding veiled insults in where convenient.
For example;
you are taking unwarranted liberty with rational thought.
It is quite common when one's logic is outmatched to resort to namecalling, even if done with such aplomb.
You of course are entitled to your opinion...just as everyone else is entitled to theirs. If this offends you perhaps you need more time for introspection as I suggested before.
Lastly, I do not post to meet anyone's "standards" but my own. If one deems my writings thoughtful and intelligent, so be it. If one fails to comprehend my tomes...<<shrug>>.
As you so eloquently put it..."If the shoe fits..."
The Bird of Prey
if I bought Microsoft from someone who flipped the IPO, who "lost" all the money I made?
Since you appear to "require" an answer...
Unless you consider the fact that the seller did not participate in MSFT's performance over the last 24 years a "loss", you would have to say, no one "lost". However, given MSFT's performance I'd say if you ask how the seller felt about the trade *now* they might respond with something akin to "I sure missed the boat on that one!"
Just for fun, I wonder what Ms. Shell would have had to say about MSFT way back when...especially after seeing with this board of directors!
Additionally, I did not declare that there were a large number of "quality positive" posters out there. Like "quality negative" posters, they are a rare breed. And I would dare say that Ms. Shells record as a savior of finance would be about even with any top notch "Q-P" poster.
Believe it or not, not everything is a "scam", not all company officials are corrupt, and not all investors are sheep. Some folks have never even heard of Ms. Shell, yet have managed somehow to avoid the scams and make money in the markets...imagine that!
I do agree that market manipulation can work both ways, what I don't agree on is that it works "better" in one direction or the other. For example; while the potential gain may be greater on the long side (P&D) it is far easier to execute a (S&D) on the short side. In the end it evens out. and both are equally wrong.
FWIW, I'd love to see Mr. Pink's sell recommendation date, to see just where it came in comparison to Conseco's all time high.
The Bird of Prey
BTW, here is an old but relevant tagline...
You can't con an honest man...only the dishonest, greedy man can be conned.
but if I bought Microsoft at the IPO, who "lost" all the money I made?
I'm trying to figure out if you simply missed the point or just don't want to respond to it.
That point being that NEARLY ALL of the time, the persons involved in the market are on one side or the other and have put their money where their mouth is.
And thanks for bringing up Ms. Shell. True enough your points concerning her "good points", for she is all of those things. Such was not always the case however, there was a learning curve involved, yet she has always maintained an abrasive tone (a hallmark of bashers it seems). Like wise I am not surprised that you cannot think of an example of a "quality positive" poster subjected to such hostility. The reason for that is simple economics. A "quality positive" poster will be helping a lot of people make money. The only persons that would stand to lose money based on a "quality positive" poster's message would be those that had gone short anytime before the report. Even then there is still a possibility for them to gain. For those that had already closed a position (long or short) the message would be a non event. Also such a "quality positive" poster will have a strong reputation for integrity, so strong that it may be unassailable.
The "quality negative" poster is at a distinct disadvantage in that his/her post automatically alienates all longs. By making the "quality negative" statement he/she is telling all longs that their research is invalid. Further, by issuing a sell recommendation it is reasonable to presume that short sellers will be drawn to the stock thus making the "quality negative" poster's commentary a self fulfilling prophecy. In essence (from the long's perspective) the "quality negative" poster will "steal" profit (if not the entire investment) from them. Compounding this problem is that many "quality negative" posters don't begin calling the sell until the stock has dropped significantly off its highs. Even Mr. Pink wasn't bashing Conseco during its heyday, when such information might have saved more than a few investors some hard earned cash.
Sidebar: I made quite a bit off Conseco playing the rallies that inevitably followed the downturns. Further, wasn't Wendt considered a "darling" while at GE?
Throw in the bashers penchant for being rude, obnoxious and combative to begin with, it's not surprising they don't get Christmas Cards from the Longs.
I will agree with you that a CEO posting on a message board is a reason to investigate further before investing...he's either doing his job too well or not at all!
Much like an argument between political or religious opposites, the debate between "bashers" and "touts" is unlikely to ever be resolved. It often will become hostile though and their needs to be a system in place to derail that hostility without squashing the underlying evidence for either side. No system will be perfect, but IH appears to be headed in the right direction...with some appropriate tweaking.
The Bird of Prey
Funny how two or more people can look at the same thing yet see it so differently.
And while it may seem like a good idea for "everyone" to take the same view of the owners as you do, if everyone was of a like mind there would little need to discuss much of anything. For who wishes to read an opinion followed consistently by 100 posts of "I agree" in various forms?
Further, the request was made in public for "constructive criticism", I responded in public because I believe that more than a few folks besides the management could benefit from the criticism given. If you read it as a public castigation perhaps you need a period of introspection to determine what part of your being that came from.
You are correct that even when "paying" we are still "guests" here at the deference of the owners. Be mindful however that they still have a responsibility to we "guests" to deliver value for our purchase. Perhaps you feel it is acceptable to continue without comment when you see another customer "mistreated", perhaps you simply ignore it since you are not involved. Either way by doing so you condone the mistreatment and as such grant your consent to be treated that way when the time comes...for when there are no more "bad guys" to mistreat...the "good guys" become the new "bad guys".
Respect is subjective? On this I will have to cogitate a while.
The Bird of Prey
My apologies...
I forgot you have difficulty with satirical references, among other things.
The Bird of Prey
Actually,
It's probably there for the idiots who can't remember their alias!
Or Possibly for those that, although they don't violate the multi alias clause HERE....have used so many elsewhere they need a reminder of who they are HERE.
Of course if they would stick to one alias everywhere, all the time...like moi...they would not have to look at the bottom right to see who they were!
The Bird of Prey
Franglish - Language of the week at IHUB!
For that matter, I've seen many more "vendettas" launched against so-called "bashers" who turned out to be completely accurate in their appraisal of the company than I have seen launched against CEO's who turned out to be honest upstanding citizens.
Does that make it "correct" for either side?
Should basher bashing be outlawed because some of them turned out to be right?
Should we declare "open season" on CEO's because some have been corrupt?
As with any group there will be both "Good" and "Bad".
Of course it is wrong when vendetta's are practiced, regardless of which side one is on.
Regardless, your statement above indicates a bias. That "bashers" are "good" and CEO's are "bad". Certainly some bashers are "good", some bashers are "bad". Equally some CEO's are "good" and some CEO's are "bad".
What I find amazing is that for all of the "bashers" running around out there (some BB issues have several), None...not a single one...not even the super bashers...not even the King of the bashers, said a word about Enron or any of the other recent examples of corporate misdeeds. Are we to believe that these men had completely clean slates and there was nothing for the "researchers" to find? Surely with FBI agents in one's back pocket it could have been discovered if any of the recent shady CEO's had left clues to their future criminal behavior in the past. Or are we to believe that only CEO's of OTC-BB companies meet that criteria?
One thing that both longs and shorts seem to forget is that the market is a zero sum game. The long buys believing the stock will go up from a seller that believes it will not go up. Sometimes that seller is shorting. What I find immensely humorous is that when someone identifies themselves as favoring the short side they expect to be treated favorably by their opponents favoring the long side (and vice versa). To me that's akin to expecting Offensive and Defensive linemen or boxers to say nice things to each other before proceeding to beat each other up.
FTR, I agree that "holding a position" in a company should not be a criteria for being "allowed" to post. Then again neither should "basher" or "tout" be a issue. One thing about Boxers and Football players though, at some point, either before during or at the end of the contest...they respect their opponent more often than not. Observation indicates that many message board posters...do not.
The Bird of Prey
OK Matt,
Constructive criticism it is.
1st with the exception of GB all of those on the list left because they felt they have been disrespected by either you or Bob or both. Like it or not, you and Bob are tied to the same chain. And whether it's fair or not to do so, people are going to hold you accountable for Bob's sins and vice versa. My comments are for both of you. Believe it or not, Bob's final commentary on our last exchange (though private) actually gives me reason to believe that things can be different.That is why I included that little tagline at the end of my previous message...
Sometimes it is not enough to avoid evil...sometimes you must avoid even the appearance of evil.
You and Bob both give the "appearance of evil" when you dismiss a suggestion with an insulting or flippant remark. You also disrespect users when you completely ignore their comments. These were what specifically caused Poet to depart here and caused my own diminished participation. This behavior has continued and expanded. This is IMO, the number one challenge that IH management must overcome. Every time either of you post a belittling comment to a user (any user, even joemoney) you give the appearance of disrespecting users. You and Bob have done this so often in the last few months that your recent "I don't care" comment takes on a different, more insidious meaning in the eyes of your readers than perhaps you intended.
It's a mindset thing. I understand clearly that this site belongs to you and Bob, and that you can do as you wish with it. Even to the extreme of enforcing a non-sensical rule. I do believe, however that you do understand the second part of this equation, that without users your site is worthless. That you must attract and keep quality users here at the site. The easiest way to do that is to remember "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!"
Would you want a site admin trying to humiliate you into leaving a site? or bait you into a violation so that he has an excuse to terminate you?
Some things, while you may not like them, you just have to put up with if you want to attract and keep quality users. It has to do with "the appearance of "being fair". If a user appears to be getting shafted by management just because they don't like his/her style, then other users wonder "What happens to me if they decide I'm not doing things the way they want?". Special "rules" for certain posters can also cause users to ask that same question. You have in place some excellent tools for dealing with troublemakers and you can use them well. Don't get caught in the trap of trying to control what gets posted on the site. To do so you'd end up on one side or another, because you cannot force people to always choose the middle of the road. Let the community decide what is acceptable or not, if you listen, they'll tell you. In simple terms they want a place where they can post without fear of being mistreated...by anyone, including the management.
In general you have that, but there are a few cracks in the image, and it appears that management would prefer to dismiss them and proceed with it's own agenda, whatever that may be.
Whenever management gives the appearance of being inconsistent in enforcing the rules it does have and does not persistently enforce those same rules, management then opens the door to the interpretation that it is biased, unfair and therefore unsafe in the eyes of users.
It's not a matter of who you go head to head with...it's HOW you do it. Both you and Bob have shown errors in judgement in the HOW lately.
The Bird of Prey
PS I don't expect perfection, but the current situation is nowhere within sight of perfect. It really isn't even acceptable IMB, but there is a slim hope that things can be turned around, with the possibility of getting closer to the Utopian Ideal than ever before.
Matt,
I'm not defending Hollen, I just don't see that he's doing anything differently than he always has. But I have noticed a change in IH management "style" over the past few months.
Straight up, in order for IH to be useful to me I want to see both alleged "touts" and alleged "bashers" posting. Neither side getting even the appearance of preferential treatment from management. If a person like Hollen is posting about stocks and isn't considered disruptive by the board moderators of the boards he's on what's the difference whether he C&P's or writes original content? You keep quoting how many posts he has had deleted... how many of those were in the last 30 days? 60 days? This year?
I wonder how much of this is Hollen being wrong and how much of this is IH trying to save face in the ongoing assault from his old nemesis here?
From over here in the cheap seats it looks like you're getting all in a bother over three posts a day.
As for how seriously everybody is being taken... look at the number of quality people that have departed or seriously reduced their contribution because they felt they weren't being taken seriously. Myself included.
Whether IH management is truly thumbing it's nose at it's long time users or not remains to be seen...but the perception that you are is growing.
The Bird of Prey
Sometimes it is not enough to avoid evil... sometimes you must avoid even the appearance of evil.
Amazing isn't it?
How little respect can be had by admin for even the "best" members of IH. Archie, Patsy, and yourself have been here since practically day one, literally built it's reputation by your own actions on your boards, and still today your boards represent nearly 20% of the total posts for all of IH.
Further if my memory serves, this "issue" of Hollen "spamming" has come up before...and was dealt with before, publicly. I believe the summation of the previous decision was that Hollen would be "allowed" to continue posting as he had been at Patsy's, Archie's, and your board (at your discretion of course) as long as he left the bulk of the rest of the site alone. TMK, he has not violated that agreement. Yet, Matt seems to have decided that he wishes to further restrict Hollen, for reasons known only to himself (and perhaps Bob).
That he has done so while offering a flippant remark that is offensive (even mildly) to long time quality users of the site is becoming more SOP than an exceptional one time occurrence. Perhaps in their next company meeting Matt and Bob will take up this issue of "appearing to disrespect users" and alter their "flippant" tone.
We can only hope that if they do so the result will be less disrespectful commentary.
The Bird of Prey
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eh, et quel tipe de suspension R we talking about ici?
I wonder if Matt understands Franglish?
The Bird of Prey
But there are these pesky Nasdaq and Listed boards I'd like to provide a similar link for, and it looks like it'd be no big deal to roll my own.
Uh oh! There we go thinking alike again. WE'd better be careful or the earth may spin off it's axis!
If you can maintain *current* information when accessing the link, this would be a very good thing for all SRB's; BB, Listed and NAZ.
The Bird of Prey
PS IF you can do it (perl coding) for Listed and NAZ, why bother with a 3rd party? Oh yeah! It's that 'traffic' thing again! <g>
At the rate you're going...
September may have been correct, we just don't know what year!
The Bird of Prey
Congrats Colt!
on a fine thread. And a dang good crowd you're attracting here too!
Long time Phins Phan...before `72 even. Marino, though he never won the big one, will ultimately prove to have been the greatest pure passer we'll ever see. His career TD and yardage records may never be broken (Elway couldn't catch him if he'd played another 3 years!) It's too bad he never could get a complete team around him to win the big one. Just another of the many heartbreaks us longtime fans have been through. Speaking of which... Where's Ricky on your RB pics?
The Bird of Prey
While we're at it....
Weren't you going to start a serious INVESTING thread in a couple of months...back last SEPTEMBER?
#msg-183824
And what ever happened to the Old Timers thread? Looks like it just died about a month ago. I always liked that thread.
The Bird of Prey
PS I have analyzed my share of 10-K's.
Right know it's on hold. But things will start up again soon.
The Bird of Prey
As I understand it...
What I described would not necessarily "shut down" a site. In Particular I was considering IH. I believe you have numerous "redundancies" in the system (multiple HD's and whatnot). With such a setup it is my understanding that any single HD would contain the data needed. Therefore the entire site would not have to be shut down. However, a recent example of how strange the three letter entities can behave shows the following...
After the Payne Stewart crash, the company that owned the plane was raided by the FBI, ostensibly to evaluate the potential cause of the crash. They removed all of the computers, all files and records from the company...everything. Essentially they shut the company down. Months later it was determined that they hadn't violated any laws. the maintenance records of the plane in question were correct and up to date.
If they only needed to review the maintenance records of one plane...why take everything?
Just something to consider.
On "The Blue Nowhere"...
It is an interesting book, especially for self proclaimed "geeks". Short version of the storyline... super hacker released from prison to help agents track down another superhacker that is using computer hacking techniques to stalk his potential victims. You see, he's become a serial killer.
BTW, I *make* time to read. Like my wife says "Reading causes Ideas!"
The Bird of Prey
if someone like the SEC comes a-knockin'...
If the SEC, FBI or another other government body comes along wanting the info, they can (and will) simply grab the hard drives and/or backup disks/tapes/whatever and "recover" the necessary information. Even the stuff that's been deleted.
From what I understand you'd have to be using some pretty sophisticated encryption software to prevent them from "recovering" any messages they might be looking for.
I do like your solution for dealing with civil subpoena's, though I would add "per alias requested" to the charge. Some clowns might require a serious amount to get their attention. $300 for 10-12 users ID's might not even slow them down.
The Bird of Prey
PS Way off topic...
Have you by chance read "The Blue Nowhere" by Jeffery Deaver?
>>these slowdowns and the frequent timeout messages that clear up on Reload absolutely drive me up the wall!!!
I thought that was my job! <g>
Note on PM deletion. As long as individual users have the option of keeping a PM for as long as they wish there really shouldn't be an issue of deleting the remainder after a short time. That way any of the scenarios you cited as reasons for keeping PM's could still be covered. For surely a group of users aligned against a "bad" CEO, etc. would "keep" any posts potentially useful as evidence. While at the same time there would be little worth in subpoena's for the long gone PM's.
The Bird of Prey
A little something I came across today.
https://the.ihug.co.nz/
The Bird of Prey
>>Methinks it would be easier to exchange my wife...
Easier? maybe.
Cheaper? definitely not.
Have a good day.
The Bird of Prey
ROFL...
perhaps you'd prefer another language?
Greek maybe?
I know how about an ancient Proto-Indo-European language, say Kurgan? I'll even give you an easy one. It's meaning remains unchanged after more than 6000 years...
kakka
The Bird of Prey
I see,
so in your case this would apply
Incogitatus ergo bardus.
The Bird of Prey
IHub - The Center of YOUR Wheel of Fortune.
The Bird of Prey
Do you translate everything as "up yours"?
Not even close! Even a rank amateur should know that "canis" translates to "dog".
Have fun!
The Bird of Prey
You need to "brush up"
on your Latin,
on your History,
on Human Nature,
and your manners.
The Romans had a rich selection of "cuss words", though their perceptions of vulgarity differ somewhat from modern society. The most striking difference is where they believed that taking the woman's role in sex was degrading, while being on the penetrating end was regarded as acceptable, regardless of the gender of the "receiver" or the particular orifice being penetrated. Most Latin "curse words" reflect that position.
Further, one of the most obscene phrases from the Roman heyday was "i in maximum crucem"", loosely translated it means "Hey buddy, get crucified".
BTW, "Et tu Brute" does not translate " even in the most liberal sense as "up yours, Charley" Your lack of literary education has reared it's puerile head.
Canis culum in tuo naso
The Bird of Prey
Mentula,
What do you expect when you choose an alias like yours? If you wanted civil discussion you shouldn't choose Czech insults for handles!
BTW, Mentula is Latin for Churak. According to Matt, if he doesn't know what it means he won't police it.
Enjoy!
The Bird of Prey
PS Boy, is this gonna wreck Bob's spell checker!
I wouldn't expect it from any of the discount houses. Only time I've ever gotten anything close to a sell at the ask or a buy at the bid were when I used the full service houses, even then I'm not certain I could have done so with pennies. In my experience fills only occurred when the bid/ask "moved" to my price.
Now if I had a direct line to a MM or Floor specialist...
The Bird of Prey
Which Broker?
Or is that privileged information?
The Bird of Prey
93.4% of all statistics are made up. The rest are false.
Old tagline...very old. I think I first saw it on FIDOnet back in the early 80's. Though I could be wrong.
The Bird of Prey
PS Here are a few more tags on the subject
Statistics are human beings with the tears wiped off.
Statistics are no substitute for judgment.
89.6% of all statistics are wrong.
If enough data is collected, anything may be proven by statistics.
If you can't make it work, make a statistic of it.
Nine times out of ten the statisticians are wrong.
Smoking is one of the leading causes of statistics.
There are lies, damn lies, and Democrat statistics
43% of all statistics are totally worthless..
When someone like me thinks "No, I don't need an upgrade. My computers are many times faster than I need as it is.", I'm sure lots of people are thinking that, and it spells "deep hurting" on the horizon.
I've been in that mode for quite some time now. And I'm in one of those professions that NEED the latest and the greatest. But,(for now) I'm not even upgrading AutoCAD. I am already producing work that used to take hours on the computer in a matter of minutes. I can't justify the extra expense of an upgrade when it won't improve the situation any further.
I have one type of project that used to take 4 hours to complete back in the days of the 486. Now it takes 20 minutes, mostly because I'm that slow with the input. The only thing I'm really considering upgrading at this point is the printer (could possibly shave 4-6 minutes off the 20 minute project). Other than that the only thing I might do is bump up the RAM in the video.
Every time I've bought computers and tell the sales staff what I need they always call me a "power user". I don't know if that's true, but until the PIII's came out I could always count on "short breaks" waiting on the machine to do something. As long as I'm not waiting on the machine...why upgrade?
If the rest of the CAD departments out there are thinking this way...deep hurting may be an understatement.
The Bird of Prey
Sounds like an opportunity...
to test User Specific Blocking. If we had such a thing.
JM and the group he mentioned could simply be blocked from viewing and posting to each other both publicly and privately.
Who knows, it might have even saved "Dear Sweet Mary".
The Bird of Prey