While we're at it.... Weren't you going to start a serious INVESTING thread in a couple of months...back last SEPTEMBER? <a href='read_msg.asp?message_id=183824'>#msg-183824</a> And what ever happened to the Old Timers thread? Looks like it just died about a month ago. I always liked that thread. The Bird of Prey PS I have analyzed my share of 10-K's.