The Jailhouse

[Bird of Prey]

To avoid any appearance of rudeness...


Too late.

To be honest, I'm not surprised at your commentary nor your response to my rebuttal. Further, I certainly support your right to express your opinion as I would hope you would support the right of others to express theirs.

My #1 quibble with your latest missive is this assertion that your original post #msg-387664 was not directed at me.

The opening line from that message states This discussion seems to miss the significance of subjectivity.

The only "discussion" taking place on this thread at that time was one between Mark Marcellus and myself. If this was not the discussion to which you were referring, you failed to make clear to which discussion you were referring. Further, you once again used several "catch phrases" that, to date I have only seen in posts made by you referring to posts I have made.
You have mede it clear that you "have a problem" with my "public castigation" of IH administration.
While you have not said directly that "everyone" should share your view of the owners, your obvious opposition to one that clearly does not share that view coupled with your veiled invectives (coward, spoiled child, etc.) indicate at least a desire that those that disagree with your view should be silent (silenced?).
I will agree with you that defending maligned members is a noble concern. I disagree that Admin is exempt from public castigation in this regard. I also disagree that IH management has been simply exacting "just retribution" (though I accept that you may choose to view their actions this way).
I will also agree that there are some users here at IH in dire need of some public castigation. My point is that it makes Admin look bad when they are the ones dishing it out. Quite simply Admin has enough tools to reign in or eliminate those that choose to operate outside the community standards without having to resort to "flame wars" with users. Further, on several occasions now both Matt and Bob have uttered phrases similar to "I don't care what user X...(thinks, says wants)..."
yet still comment on how they want the site to grow. MY point again is "If you want the site to grow, show your customers respect."
Respecting the users here does not mean trying to make themselves subservient to every users whim. It does mean treating all users with common courtesy and decency...even those that don't deserve it. Unless of course all they want is a private playground to support a huge ego.

After careful thought on the topic "Respect is subjective?" I must disagree with your assessment. Both the *granting* of respect and the act of disrespecting are subjective. The respect itself, like courtesy, etiquette, politeness is not. It is a clearly defined set of parameters. you either abide by it or not.

But I don't expect you to understand such things...for while you claim to merely be expressing an opinion and self deprecate ad nauseum, you try sliding veiled insults in where convenient.

For example;

you are taking unwarranted liberty with rational thought.

It is quite common when one's logic is outmatched to resort to namecalling, even if done with such aplomb.

You of course are entitled to your opinion...just as everyone else is entitled to theirs. If this offends you perhaps you need more time for introspection as I suggested before.

Lastly, I do not post to meet anyone's "standards" but my own. If one deems my writings thoughtful and intelligent, so be it. If one fails to comprehend my tomes...<<shrug>>.

As you so eloquently put it..."If the shoe fits..."


The Bird of Prey