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It will depend on what font someone likes. Several cut and paste to pick from on those filings. LOL
Here's some convenient links.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=67206207
I'm not one who subscribes to the Dow being anywhere near responsible for a stock such as this, but I have to admit the market is getting killed overall, trying to throw some darts at it.
A couple of charts since the SNGX crash last week. Can it go down, yep, is it going to turn around somewhere here, maybe. Where is the low this time, where will the high be -- where is my crystal ball?
It's all real risk.
30 tick regular candle chart:
5 tick trend candle chart
What's lunch time in Nevada got to do with it. When you call CRWV you get a Beverly Hills virtual number that just forwards or takes a message by a machine. Like the commercial that's trying to eat "lunch". Not happening. LOL
Oh there will be more chances, they are moving the net away now and putting up the spikes. LOL
Of course what time to update could be subjective to each. But they did "address" it right away with a chance for any investor to call in and question with whatever their concerns were. Not too many questions on the end of the webcast (can listen with link on company's main page).
http://www.soligenix.com/
So even though they couldn't answer much about the OrBec debacle, they didn't run and allowed any investors to question. It's only been a week, I believe a little more time (at least a week more) would be understandable.
Of course I would expect them to come out with something at some point (within a few weeks), but I would want them to proceed with focus and a little time to think things through and to have some time to get a few more answers about Orbeck.
But it has only been a week. There's plenty of OTC pinks out there if one wants to pick from for the constant PR's. Just can't really give support for how much of real company they are other than just a share selling business.
So I for one am willing to give SNGX just a bit more time to see where this goes. Time can change anything, but for now I'm good, but that's just me and everyone has to do their own thing with their own rules. Nothing wrong with that.
Personally, I believe that any update shouldn't be too quick to the draw. Someone(s) have stated a couple of weeks -- I believe that is very reasonable.
The stock is drifting between 4-6 for the most part and that really isn't too terrible considering the devastation of the stock over Orbeck. It's supplied some decent trades plus stayed in a range for longer term.
If they start putting out fast PR's like some fluff POS pink, I'm out of here. So personally I would rather them take some reasonable time for an update on what and how they are going to move forward.
Their business may not be rocket science, but it is advanced science. Decisions and the research don't happen overnight or even over a week.
Actually it is about ready to break, but down again.
A little up, more down, a little up, more down, a ............
Any guesses for the EOD T-crud? How about .0097 for my guess. I know, just a guess.
Well being newbies is somewhat allowable, but there is a responsibility that must be excepted since they are attempting to create some justifiable persona and having basically just newbies and the naive come to them for direction.
Give them a little rope maybe, see if they hang or climb. But they still better step it up in order to succeed in learning and succeeding. A little bit of spit or even a lot of spit isn't going to be enough and there will be realization soon, if not already that respect has to be given to all the work and ability shown on a board and the main characters of this one(DD Support Board and Fraud Research Team).
Real DD takes a lot of time, effort, intelligence, quality, and morality. Those factors are somewhat scarce and rare being in one place, but are obtainable if one wants too.
I'm waiting to see if the fire just doesn't turn around and burn Abuse of Law on their a$$. But they better at least get suited up properly to enter into this kitchen.
Yep, they are back to working it and pulling chains. A little up, more down, a little up, more down, and so forth. But the overall trend continues down and no bottom in sight. Low today is quite a bit lower low -- .0113
Then there comes in with all the trading chest puffing declaring great success, when in reality and real numbers most is just a bunch of CRWV hot air.
Back down to 0.012. BAMMMM!
"Steps in the right direction" I'm all for and maybe I'm being a bit harsh. But the obvious is still quite prevalent, too much not being addressed. It's "all the rest" that's giving quite a bit of issue.
Still doesn't explain why the "feeling of support" that has been stated and given by Abuse of Law on a continued basis for CRWV. That "support" is similar of newbies and the naive in a pinky market following fluff company PR's and pumper messages or centering attention on those newbies and naive for a following.
Neither one being positive. So if Abuse of Law was founded for or a big part created for to chase and attack the other blog Pumps and Dumps, so be it.
But they need to step it up quite a bit on REAL DD and "truth" seeking to gain any substantial traction on their supposed quest.
Even more sad is that real DD with the "stripper" wells and the company, Gouger, etc reveals that not much or not enough if any "working income" is there.
Unless one counts selling shell shares as income. But that income is only good for the insiders, not any retail investors.
It still seems to me that it's very possible or probable that they are setting up or attempting to set up some future alternative motives. I'm sure they are following what is posted about them.
Read this oh claimed searchers of the truth:
You don't find truth by doing faux interviews with pinky CEO's. Verifying facts through the company and asking for "clarification" from the company is only a "fools game" and either showing the ones doing it are only an amateur at best or have alternative motives than finding any "truth".
That doesn't matter if Dane Peterson comes up with whatever paper to "clarify". Phony paper has run rampant, especially in the pinky mining business.
Information from the company is NOT REAL DD. "Holding feet to the fire" is the oldest cliché in the book for promoting something other than searching for the real "truth".
Truth isn't continuing to support a P&D company that has no verifiable facts, except for the fact that a multi million (shares or cash) effort has been spent into the pump. That kind of resources can go into any real business, being legally audited, giving "truth" to the SEC, supporting a real product and not to support "mining" shares.
The truth is that it seems like there isn't any support for their continued statements of "feeling" worthiness towards CRWV. At least they haven't come up with anything. Just trying to gain sheep by extracting "questions" from users in order to deal with the overwhelmingly indications of a scam and continued growing of the reader base.
I believe there needs to be some "truth" clarified about Abuse of Law. Are they just amateurs or are they doing dubious tactics and "abusing" the terms of real "truth".
It was noticed.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=67254698
Also it seems, doing the pinky "soon" feature again. Four months ago on 5/20/11 it was stated:
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The company has also filed all supplemental paperwork with FNRA and CUSIP. Texas Oil and Minerals, Inc. will retain its ticker symbol, BNPD, until CUSIP assigns a new symbol in the following days.
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ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=47770087
But today they state it was only a "few weeks ago".
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Texas Oil and Minerals would also like to issue an update regarding FINRA and the name and symbol change the company filed a few weeks ago. FINRA accepted the application and after its initial review has requested further information and documentation from the company.
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http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=49240237
FINRA will take and "accept" paperwork, but obviously it gets quite a bit harder after that and spits it right back and tells Gouger and BNPD it isn't good enough and that they need to "accept" some more. LOL
Finally, we have a deadline set for when it should be completed! Yesterday BNPD released this letter from the CEO, Tom Gouger, stating that the name and symbol change should be completed next week:
SEC Announces Roundtable on Microcap Securities
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2011-186
Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2011 — The Securities and Exchange Commission today announced that it will host a public roundtable next month to discuss the unique regulatory issues surrounding the execution, clearance, and settlement of microcap securities.
The roundtable is being sponsored by the SEC’s Microcap Fraud Working Group, a joint initiative of the Division of Enforcement and Office of Compliance Inspections and Examinations. The Working Group is the Commission’s primary resource for issues relating to market participants and trading practices concerning securities primarily quoted on the OTC Bulletin Board (OTCBB) or OTC Quote (previously Pink Sheets).
The event will take place on October 17 from 1 p.m. to 5 p.m. at the SEC’s Washington D.C. headquarters. It will feature in-depth discussions of key regulatory issues including Anti-Money Laundering monitoring, compliance challenges, and potential changes to the regulatory framework. Panelists will include representatives from The Deposit Trust Company, broker-dealers, the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority and others.
The roundtable is part of an ongoing SEC effort to focus on the particular challenges facing issuers and regulated entities within the changing business and regulatory climates. The purpose of the roundtable is to enable Commission staff to gather ideas and request input for regulatory measures surrounding the execution, clearance and settlement of low-priced securities.
The event is open to the public with seating available on a first-come, first-served basis. The roundtable also will be webcast live on the SEC website and archived for later viewing. For more information about the roundtable, contact the Division of Enforcement at 202-551-6607.
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2011/2011-186.htm
SEC Announces Roundtable on Microcap Securities
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2011-186
Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2011 — The Securities and Exchange Commission today announced that it will host a public roundtable next month to discuss the unique regulatory issues surrounding the execution, clearance, and settlement of microcap securities.
The roundtable is being sponsored by the SEC’s Microcap Fraud Working Group, a joint initiative of the Division of Enforcement and Office of Compliance Inspections and Examinations. The Working Group is the Commission’s primary resource for issues relating to market participants and trading practices concerning securities primarily quoted on the OTC Bulletin Board (OTCBB) or OTC Quote (previously Pink Sheets).
The event will take place on October 17 from 1 p.m. to 5 p.m. at the SEC’s Washington D.C. headquarters. It will feature in-depth discussions of key regulatory issues including Anti-Money Laundering monitoring, compliance challenges, and potential changes to the regulatory framework. Panelists will include representatives from The Deposit Trust Company, broker-dealers, the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority and others.
The roundtable is part of an ongoing SEC effort to focus on the particular challenges facing issuers and regulated entities within the changing business and regulatory climates. The purpose of the roundtable is to enable Commission staff to gather ideas and request input for regulatory measures surrounding the execution, clearance and settlement of low-priced securities.
The event is open to the public with seating available on a first-come, first-served basis. The roundtable also will be webcast live on the SEC website and archived for later viewing. For more information about the roundtable, contact the Division of Enforcement at 202-551-6607.
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2011/2011-186.htm
I guess the market wasn't too amused or excited on that big PR. Didn't even get the EOD trade at the ask like usual. Down 19% on little heavier volume.
Matched the low on the overall downward trend -- lower low tomorrow?
Yeah right, good luck with anyone doing that kind of math. LOL The CRWV and other pink pump and hype love people to believe in the daily short math. Just never really computes to anything but more losses for the most part to the stock buyers that's getting P&Dumped by the sellers. That's just factual statistical math.
Way too many know that going on daily short interest is just a fools game (or fools gold in this case) and only used as fodder for pump jobs. Need to refer to the bi-monthly for any confirmation of the so called "shorts".
http://otcbb.com/asp/OTCE_Short_Interest.asp
The last bi-monthly short interest for CRWV was about a quarter of a million short with a a 36 million daily average volume for that period. Far cry of any "daily short" bs.
Work in progress. LOL
That is what I was waiting for to fill the tank a bit. Still can top off and have some empty cans in the back though just in case.
They might want to see if they can trace down the virtual phone number (virtual office, whatever one might call it) in Beverly Hills to see where that is being forwarded to also. Everything with CRWV is pretty much one big P&D front.
Are they letting people down easy? Can't just throw all the towels in at once. LOL
He does pretty good with that, even has a couple of videos still out maybe on that subject.
two ole farts
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/profilea.aspx?user=27263
Doesn't seem to be any verifiable facts with CRWV. Phony PR's, phony address, phony virtual phone in Beverly Hills, phony financial statements that seems to be cut and pasted, changed by some high school or junior high student.
Just verifiable Pump and Dump. Thats been the only fact. But Pump and Dump stocks like CRWV don't want people that need facts. All that's needed is people that don't mind and are ready for 90% or so losses which is exactly what the pps has done and is doing.
A little up and down and jerking chains are just part of the whole act.
If this keeps to around 56 on the dip, we're still doing pretty good. Just as I was cautious to buy more in the 4's, just as cautious to sell to many around 6 or more.
Steady as she goes is just fine. Too much too fast may give the day trading something, but gives problems in the longer term (whatever that may be for one).
I picked up a few more yesterday, but I remained cautious and thought it might go down a bit more, but oh well. I'll be happy with what I got and maybe work at some dips and tops. Now where did I put that crystal ball. LOL
Well I'll be, a LOI and looks like what they did. LOL Gouger has been stringing these folks at Matrixx Resource Holdings, Inc. along for quite awhile now with that Wilcox drilling site.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=6243
Maybe he's going to get that flat tire fixed on the rig.
jbsliverer Share Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:05:33 PM
Re: cable post# 29990 Post # of 30014
I don't think it about drilling for oil, just shares. But according to some on one of Gougers other stocks, the rig has had a flat or bad wheel and stuck in the mud for months now and isn't going anywhere, let alone to another state. At least Gouger's other stock has been stuck in the mud.
investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=6243
Maybe the next LOI is going to be with that company. LOL They might actually have to do some real oil business if they go to North Dakota, a lot easier for BNPD to stay in pinkyland, USA. That way all they have to do is take from one hand, mix with shareholders money, and give more to the other hand. Much easier than fixing a wheel and moving to another state.
The company has also filed all supplemental paperwork with FNRA and CUSIP. Texas Oil and Minerals, Inc. will retain its ticker symbol, BNPD, until CUSIP assigns a new symbol in the following days.
Texas Oil and Minerals would also like to issue an update regarding FINRA and the name and symbol change the company filed a few weeks ago. FINRA accepted the application and after its initial review has requested further information and documentation from the company.
Whatever, like I said doesn't matter to me. Ok, stock down 19%. 16:00:05 good, no problem, EOD close .0145 with a trade of 25% of relatively low volume day. LOL
Because as I stated, the "days trading" is to the bell -- trading of the day. There is no after hours trading with CRWV. It's just what it is. No big deal, if it makes one happy to say it's 25% of volume and the pps down about 19%, fine. Doesn't matter to me or change what it is.
Another "after hours" trade (T-trade, no after hours trading) of 3 million at .0145. Over a third of the whole days volume. Was a little over 8 million before that one.
They do "report" to OTC Pink Sheets, but those "financial statements" (and I use the term very loosely) are far from complete and not exactly accurate. They claim they are prepared under US GAAP, but clearly are not even close. They also including the claim they ARE an SEC filer, which is clearly false but likely is because it strongly appears they cut and pasted the notes from some other company's filings.
The bottom tier of the OTC market, OTC Pink is a speculative trading marketplace that helps broker dealers get the best prices for investors. OTC Pink has no financial standards or reporting requirements, but companies in this tier choose the level of information they provide to investors and may have current, limited or no public disclosure.
The Pink Sheets is a centralized quotation service that collects and publishes market maker quotes for OTC securities in real-time. Pink Sheets is neither an SEC Registered Stock Exchange nor a Broker-Dealer.
If CRWV were to ever legitimize and show transparency on their recent activity, like disclosing the truth about all these SS changes, and upgrade their OTC status, it would be very dis-settling to me. i need CRWV to be proven a fraud.
I think CRWV is very suspicious, for many reasons. I think I just found one more very suspicious issue which may explain where the 200 million free-trading shares and the 200 million restricted shares came from.
Janice pointed out that there are two sets of "filings" by Crowne over at Pink OTC. The first set has been made inactive, and a new set with a new attorney has since been made available. I went through both sets, and there is a LOT of important changes between the two sets besides just the attorney.
Crowne filed an annual report for the year ended December 31, 2010 on May 20, 2011. They filed another version of the annual report for the year ended December 31, 2010 on August 7, 2011. ( www.otcmarkets.com/stock/CRWV/financials - click "View -All" in the upper bar to see both the active and inactive filings in order to compare both sets) There are a lot that is the same between the two reports (including the obvious conclusion that much of the report was cut and pasted from other companies reports - notice that certain parts are in different fonts AND different font sizes) and the notes claim the statements are prepared to US GAAP (they aren't - not by a LONG SHOT) and they give the incorrect statement that Crowne is an SEC filer. But, there is also a lot that is different. Those differences may cut to the heart of this stock promotion.
Look at the two balance sheets. In the first annual report filed on May 20, the "Additional Paid-in Capital" for 2010 and 2009 was the same - $34,293. The Company issued no shares in either year, and conducted no transactions. HOWEVER, look at the balance sheet in the second annual report filed August 7, 2011. They are still claiming they issued no common shares in either fiscal 2009 or 2010. BUT, the "Additional Paid-in Capital" jumps to $62,293 in 2009 and $74,293 in 2010.
So, where did the huge jump in Additional Paid in Capital come from? Take a look at the 2 "Statement of Stockholder Equity" statements. They are both horribly formatted, and differently formatted in each case. Plus, they have different numbers. In the first, there were no shares issued between 1991 and 2010, so the only thing that changed shareholder's equity was the annual losses. However, in the second one filed, they suddenly show that in 2009 they recorded $28,000 in Additional Paid-In capital and in 2009 they recorded $12,000 in Additional Paid-In Capital. All without issuing a single share of stock. How is that possible? It isn't. At least, not according to these non-GAAP compliant financial statements. More on that shortly.
The cash flow statements are also different. In the first one, there were no transactions AT ALL in either 2010 or 2009. None. Yet, in the second one, they suddenly claim to have spent $17,000 on rock crushing equipment (17 thousand EVEN?) in 2009 and received $40,000 from issuance of capital ($28K in 2009, and $12K in 2010). How does a company "forget" about those important transactions? How could they forget about the $40K in their bank accounts (it would be interesting to know if they ever did receive $40K, or just claim they did). I know the financials are a mess, but this is going into the realm is disbelief.
One other important change in the 2 reports. In the first one, there is no mention of the acquisition of Rising Star. But, there it is in the second report filed in August. Somewhere between May 2011 and August 2011, Crowne acquired a subsidiary working in Mexico in 2009. Wow - they must have a time machine that allowed them to go from the summer of 2011 sometime after May 7 all the way back to 2009 and buy this mineral explorer active in Nayarit so they can report it for the first time in August 2011. I mean, how else could they "forget" about this all important 2009 acquisition in May 2011 but suddenly "remember" it in August 2011?
Back to the mystery of the Additional Paid-in Capital. There is a way to increase the Additional Paid-in Capital without issuing shares. A Company arranges for a stock subscription and the shares are issued later. However, under GAAP, there are offsetting accounts for those subscription amounts, none of which are present here.
We already know these financial statements are not GAAP compliant. However, it sure looks like PERHAPS someone, between May and August, conjured up not only the acquisition of a mining company in 2009 BUT also a very convenient stock subscription debt (which wasn't even properly accounted for in the revised financial statements) of $40,000. This amount MAY have been settled by the issuance of 400 million common shares ($40,000 in debt very cleanly converts to the 400 million shares Crowne issued at $0.0001 per share). And, due to the date of the suspicious subscription (if the debt is real), much of the shares could be issued without restrictive legend. In other words, free trading shares ready to be sold into the paid promotion.
This is just the type of issue the SEC often investigates.
This opinion and conclusions herein are based upon documentation and facts made available by the Company and is based on the accuracy of those documents and facts. In the event that any material facts and information in any such documents are determined not to be true, this opinion shall be null and void.
Good work on CRWV 1manband.
One would think with all that share selling and time travel, they could do better than junior high word processing. LOL
Some links for easy reference on your post.
May 20, 2011 CRWV -- 2010 Annual Report
Aug 07, 2011 CRWV -- 2010 Annual Report
otcmarkets only has information that is given from the company. Also taken away by the company. otcmarkets.com does nothing to check for accuracy, only prints out what the company gives it and takes away from it, thats it.
Why taking snapshots are always good when dealing with these pinks like CRWV. Companies can take away and change certain information at will and very quickly, including correcting a phony address (which CRWV is choosing not to do),or changing it from being the same as their other NoBid pink (which they did)
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=67195436
From otcmarkets.com
OTC Pink has no financial standards or reporting requirements, but companies in this tier choose the level of information they provide to investors
This opinion and conclusions herein are based upon documentation and facts made available by the Company and is based on the accuracy of those documents and facts. In the event that any material facts and information in any such documents are determined not to be true, this opinion shall be null and void
I noticed that, was looking at Rothman a few weeks ago. Didn't surprise me a bit when CRWV was "hiding" once again. They've been do a lot of that.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=66644957
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=66646280
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=66648430
But I really like the "transparency" of this statement. LOL
4. ACCOUNTANT - No External Audits Or Reviews Completed. Financials are
prepared by. management
More revealing stuff this morning from the king of critical DD, and in response to the queen
investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=67195436
Why is Allan Rothman's involvement in the CRWV shell being erased from record by the insiders of this company?
It seems like the insiders behind the CRWV scam are trying to hide a lot more than their illegal share distributions and illegal share dumping.
I look forward to when the SEC shuts down the CRWV scam and more details become available about who profited the most from the scam.
nodummy
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Sunday, September 18, 2011 12:41:51 PM
Re: janice shell post# 15306
Post # of 15309
CRWV - Not just Tim Hove mysteriously disappears - what about the 10 million restricted shares given out on April 15, 2011 (5 million to Hove and 5 million to Lindsay)
http://www.otcmarkets.com/financialReportViewer?symbol=CRWV&id=51626
All the active filings state that there were 17,155 outstanding shares of common stock on June 30, 2011.
And that event about the 10 million shares being issued on April 15, 2011 ONLY shows up in Allen Rothman's inactive opinion letter.
"the principle & which is quite true in itself & that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily,"
Adolf Hitler
The original quote has somewhat been misquoted and diminished over the years to "The bigger the lie, the more it will be believed."
Hitler only realized it and used it, but it is as old as man itself. So do pinky P&D's know it, and use that very same theory against the "broad masses" for their ill gotten gains and greed, nothing new or exceptional.
Just one of many red flags of CRWV, but a pretty big one.
The side of caution and critical thinking.
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