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Maybe you should chat with Estrella instead of HW regarding that settlement? You would have a different story! For instance if such an agreement had been made why did Leinwand not execute it instead of leaving it on the plate for Clark and Estrella?
No one is delighted with the share price Mad.. At the same time we have some idea of the legacy crap these guys inherited. They had one nutty agreement with a professor and no products. I still have faith that this group is close on contracts and as you say they better be. I have no idea what Estrella is thinking but doubt he believes he would stay on when his term ends without contracts and a rise in share valuation.
Well that is amusing no I am not JR.
So tell us Mad other than the share price and market cap how was this company in better shape 2 and 1/2 years ago? Isn't it obvious that hudson, brio, and a Major seller as well as La Jolla funding has caused this mess? It will take revenues and contracts to overcome but we actually have something to sell now where as 2 1/2 years ago we had a demo bag of crap in a corner we called an airship.
Of course but just means HW is sharing text messages with you correct? As well as opinion and innuendo.. well of course some of us have other knowledge and opinions too. How HW and JR don't have any use for each other has no bearing on the company imo.
Agreed it will take major contracts and a real investment house as well as powerful IR effort to move the stock to those heights Warp. It all depends on revenues, outlook and potentials to move the large boulder that is the outstanding share base up the hill.
I can only surmise when these guys made their optimistic predictions at the share holder meeting they assumed specific contracts that have yet to materialize. That does not mean however that they are never going to happen.
And you really think this company would exist at all without the efforts of Clark and Estrella starting with the SEC settlement, continued funding, accounting clean up, debt settlement, creation of the argus, the BIB, Gtc merger? What tree do you eat your bananas from Mad?
Look Warp, you can lambast JR all you want but without him there was no Clark and Estrella to clean up the SEC mess and yes Estrella had as much to do with that as Clark. Sure HW was involved after JR brought these guys to the table.
If you really want to get into a shouting match about people on a message board there are some rumors about our previous company consultant that can be related as well. You don't know JR from adam and you get your poop from HW so lets just leave it at that.,
Thats fair all the best hope you see fit to join the shareholders at some point as it will reflect news progress. Good luck
Not guessing but it is an opinion yes.. its an obvious deduction Warp...
Just thought you shared a view with your pal our past consultant. All I was implying... Yes I think the company has been unusually quiet and we have a large seller (imo Raymer) besides the funding pressure. Easy to see a share price and think this is as bad of risk as possible on the other hand other than share price I think we are way ahead of two years ago.. Share price creates perception and two and half years ago we were nowhere imo ...
Its obvious imo he has practically sold out which indicates why the share price is this dead.. Hudson, Brio, financing and likely Maguire.. that is a ton of shares.. ALL IMO
And how would you know that Warp? I doubt your contacts have much of any association with the company any longer and that includes the consultant and his bebefactor.
You seem like such a clever player maybe you have that 30 million share box in the stock? Or would you have to use real money? Makes as much sense as the DOD being short.
Use your 007 spy kit and ask DOD since they tested it for 6 months?
Thanks Warp, no idea who all is responsible for the buy side volume. I have added as have several associates.
Exactly Mide, any thoughtful analysis suggests sacrifice and diligence on the part of management and employees. If they succeed they get paid and shareholders get rewarded. If they don't then they earn little to nothing.
I have no idea how well healed these people are ( to invest more) but when you are working for nothing but the come line I consider that a heck of a stamp of confidence.
Fine, I can assure you there is no exemption for a 10% owner as a registered insider unloading his shares over a couple years without form 4's. Shareholders have a right to know these transactions that is one reason why these security laws exist. His perogative to sell is not questioned by any one. If he is doing so he just needs to file appropriately.
However I agree I will not assume security law requirements mean he is not one of the primary sellers. A party with a lot of shares has obviously unloaded many here. All IMO
Or a ground station or GTC equipment Indy? We have no idea but could involve the Argus or GTC?
Well thanks Warp so if he is selling and is required to report you would say with his keen awareness of investment law it would not be simple oversight?
Regardless if he (Maguire) is selling or has sold I think the requirements for form 4's is fairly clear as he was/is a 10% holder/insider. In any event it is all a matter of conjecture as the two reports filed if accurate would indicate he sold some 20+ million shares.
No need to discuss this more thoroughly but I think he may be the primary seller while you think its Clark? Perhaps one day we will see the filings to let us know? ALL IMO
No problem some of us are giving him the benefit of the doubt and some of us are not. He also can't box or short or lend shares as an insider which I presume as an attorney he would know? We presume from Clark's position he is adept in Security Law and certainly while Maguire's practice has nothing to do with Security Law should he choose he can avail himself of information and requirements.
Regardless with the number of shares being sold by select MM's prior and after La Jolla's financing it would be surprising if Raymer is not part of the selling. ALL IMO
Well of course Raymer for one as he has never filed a form 4.
Reads the amended S1, its there for you cole and has been for months.
Thanks Mide you made it clear why the Amended S1A was filed. What other purpose was the amendment filed? There was no need to file an 8k in addition.
call the company you are wrong.. No .01 provision oh poor coastie.
Whatever HW tells him I guess... imo
More likely raymer selling as my guess he has been for months.. JMO
Well you would be wrong read Mide's post.
In any event I'm confidant there are enough relationships within this company you don't have to fret too much about whether they can secure a contract if their products are in demand. I am not worried in the least.
No saw his remarks in response and had to react to the drivel. Back on ignore. Wow I can't do business of millions of dollars because I owe a couple hundred thousand. Hmmmmmmm anyone think they can solve this problem for a business? Yes in about 10 minutes show me the contract with the US government predicated on paying off the IRS. LOL funding would be swift. Lets use our noggins even if you are a hater.. If their airships and BIB's are in demand they will do business.. good grief
Well for starters through their sub GTC. Secondly Eastcor or other potential partners. Of all your concerns this one is the most proposterous. Oh my we can't pay off an IRS sum so we can't make millions of dollars on an airship contract. Do you even know where the offer in compromise is sitting with the IRS? Give me a break even you with basher's eyes have more than this upstairs.
OK risk if you think this is the same management than you are totally foolhardy! Enjoy your delusions and play in your sand pile . I'm investing in this company not your decade old dribble. I hope all those that were injured by the past gain recovery but if someone really has any desire to make money they need look at it at this price and market cap with an assessment of their product and business model. If you can't see the potential of a 10 and 20 bagger off a .03 stock than don't buy here. Believe me that has nothing to do with your 10 year joyride. Regardless yes my environs need some fresh air, so ignore button here we come. I have fun with the conspiracy junkies but redundant it has become.. Good word
And when they have a government airship contract even BIB would will that to to your lofty average?
You have no way of determining this and you know it. As you say its the same thing only different, yes like this can be perfectly legitamate that is the difference. You best notify the SEC immeditately as I'm sure you and Acumen are on to something. Please
You do know who is playing this thing and has since hudson and brio sold right?
I'm not confused you are and you haven't a clue about this company nor its products or officers. You spend countless hours bashing this company without a penny in the game. Its really amusing Acu boy.
LOL Indy anyone that would accuse this company of pumping and hyping needs to have their head examined. This is the most removed company from hype I have witnessed these days.
Agreed Indy but Acumen does not think WSGI could interest partners. LOL
Wrong, Acumen as usual, and the sale can be filtered through GTE as well as Eastcor as well.. Aint reality difficult?
Once again you haven't a clue as the IRS is no barrier to sales with the US government.