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Hmmm, will FTD's show up on the SHO list? I suspect some of them will, but I'm not really all that familiar with the workings of these things... perhaps someone who knows how naked shorting works knows whether or not they will show up in the SHO list or whether they will not?
Surf is talking about naked shorting, not ordinary shorting. That is where MM's/brokers can produce "counterfeit" stocks.
And we know what happens when the supply of something goes up way up in relation to demand (price goes down).
This is supposed to be illegal in the US, but in practice is still done. You can force a cover of these FTD (failure to delivers) by getting a cert (although supposedly most cash accounts don't have any FTD's only margin accounts).
okay.. so this means that only the inside shorters (brokers, or whatever) can do this. Not ordinary investors that are shorting..
Isn't this naked shorting though? that's the only way they can put bogus shares out.
'FHAL will never see $1.00 again' - WhisperNumber
You mean this link? There is nothing in that statement about a price reset. It just says that the book value of the stock is $6.22. That doesn't have anything necessarily to do with what it trades on the market.
http://www.loans-news-uk.co.uk/Conversion_Solutions_7635.html
What was the market cap for this? I don't think you can really compare this with CSHD. This looks like a couple millions of dollars traded hands... with CSHD we're talking about billions. It's easy to get a couple million dollars into a stock.. a lot hard to get a few billion.
No... they said they would try to get it filed by Sept 10th... it was an internal deadline... the real deadline is Sept 30th..
yeah, I think I'll start listening to my horoscope.. seems to be the only thing that has had a positive correlation between pps and accuracy..
Shorts need an uptick in order to short.. so they bash when the stock is high, stay quiet when it is low...
Tut has lost all credibility with me when he hinted that 10k was coming out last week..
5 days? But Sept 10th is a sunday... What even makes less sense is that CSHD set as a goal to put out the 10k by the 10th or so (again a Sunday). Nothing happens on a sunday. Banks are closed, etc.
Someone really needs to verify this with several people (Mensah, Rufus, Ben), and if possible, not use the phone numbers listed below.
well, this rumor could be true.. and I mean could. They did say for someone to call dr Mensah to verify (of which I haven't heard of anyone on the pumper crew confirming this).
It seems odd that Dr Mensah would just give up on 60 million dollars though. Maybe he's trying to put pressure on shareholders onto Ben and Rufus to release the money?
Or does he have now so much money that he doesn't now that he can't spend it all and no longer needs CSHD?
This is almost as bad as those poeple that keep saying that the 10k will be here tommorow or within a week. 90% of the time these rumors are false...
fear fear fear, greed greed greed...
only thing I see on these boards.
I don't think Rufus cares, imo. Think about it. Most of us investors are probably going to dump at the price reset, which would make the PPS plummet. Would Rufus really want those types of investors in this stock? If anything he would probably want them out, not in if he wanted to keep the PPS up after the price reset.
Hmmm, okay I see it at that site.. thanks. (I still don't see it at the networksolutions.com site though, maybe my browser just doesn't display it or something else..)..
I'm sorry.. but I don't see that when I type in the box, hsworldfoundation.com, this is what I see:
Domain Name: HSWORLDFOUNDATION.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS42.WORLDNIC.COM
Name Server: NS41.WORLDNIC.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
EPP Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 28-Aug-2006
Creation Date: 26-Aug-2006
Expiration Date: 26-Aug-2007
I checked other whois sites as well and see the same thing...
works for me too.. but I don't see the addresses that Our-Street posted.. all I see is a bare bones listing.
I did user their site, and many others:
http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jsp
It doesn't matter though, unless the domain has been hacked or is a fake site, they all hit the same information.
Check it out yourself and enter the information.. you don't get any sort of address.
Which whois server are you looking at... I checked at 3 whois servers on the web, and all I get is this:
Domain Name: HSWORLDFOUNDATION.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS42.WORLDNIC.COM
Name Server: NS41.WORLDNIC.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
EPP Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 28-Aug-2006
Creation Date: 26-Aug-2006
Expiration Date: 26-Aug-2007
I guess Tim really doesn't beleive in karma, or in a christian hell, even though he quotes the bible...
well, when you do buy a stock let me know, so I can get in on the action.. ;)
No, neom, I can't reply to private messages as I don't have a paid account.. I looked at the headers, and they are in this message:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13092167
It looks like the message was sent from this machine:
68.32.79.245, which resolves to:
c-68-32-79-245.hsd1.ga.comcast.net
which looks to be a home computer or workstation of some sort (guessing of course). If you look at the MX record for hsworldfoundation.com (which was created Aug 26, 2006 - which I find rather suspicious), it resolves to inbound.hsworldfoundation.com.netsolmail.net (205.178.249.7). It appears that if you do a reverse whois on this set of IP range, though, that this domain is actually hosted by
Search results for: 205.178.149.7
InQuent Technologies Inc. INQUENT-2 (NET-205-178-128-0-1)
205.178.128.0 - 205.178.191.255
Network Solutions, LLC NTSL-03 (NET-205-178-149-0-1)
205.178.149.0 - 205.178.149.255
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It appears that this site does not have it's own e-mail server, but mail must be routed somehwere since it is hosted (or maybe it gets sent to postmaster@whoknowswhere). The only thing I can think of that is plausible is if InQuent has an e-mail server and this person has a forward in that account that goes to a comcast account somewhere.
But then again, this e-mail really doesn't prove or disprove anything. All it seems to show is that someone seems to have sent mail from a comcast account to info@our-street.com. Doesn't confirm anything about the contents of the mail or definitive proof as to whether or not it is from Steve Canady, or whoever...
They were, where? I've been reading most of what is posted here and I didn't see it.
As a former e-mail administrator, I can also attest that e-mail headers can be forged though (so this is not 100% proof). You'd have to go to the smtp logs if any of the the mail relays (but even these could be forged since these are usually just text files). However, it is unlikely that a 3rd party would forge these.
why are people treating this as real, when it's confirmation has not been fully established? Stick to facts. Nobody has proven or disproven its content 100%. There are many things about the C&D that look fishy (graphics, color of document, webpage, content doesn't make sense, Rufus said it was fake, nobody is posting the e-mail headers). The biggest thing going for it is that it was posted by the NY Post.. but this is even suspect as the writer does not have an entirely clean record.
that might be true... but I also think that eventually (and I do mean eventually), the 10k will come out. What will be in it, I don't know however.
Serf is not a paid basher, but he is human and makes mistakes (as does everybody). Some people I suspect are paid bashers or have a financial interest in bashing. Others I'm not too sure about.
If I remember the mp3 that Rufus initially gave out over a month ago, (not saying that Rufus knows what he is talking about, nor that we interpreted him correctly), insiders could not trade their shares until the merger was complete...
Of course, that is what Rufus said... Rufus says a lot of things that don't necessarily come true..
I was responding to some nick, amanda something.. I don't remember...
This is just a blog though... anyone can write anything here... I'll wait for the next PR to come out officially before I beleive what is posted on a message board/blog/whatever...
oh okay.. I see what you are saying.. I agree, This is still furia and Michael Alexander still is the official CEO. But I don't see anything sinister in this unless Michael decides to sell all his stock before the merger, or Rufus never files the 10k or sb/2.
Hmmm, weird, I was looking at sec.gov site for "furia" and found a sb/2-a for "Utilicraft Aerospace Industries, Inc". What would furia want with 10 aircraft for?:
We have also entered into a Letter of Intent to Lease a Fleet of FF-1080-300 Freight Feeder Aircraft between Furia Organization, Inc. and Fronthaul Intermodal, LLC (collectively “Furia”) and the Company dated February 16, 2006 (the “Furia LOI”). The Furia LOI sets forth the preliminary terms of an arrangement between the Company and Furia pursuant to which Furia intends to lease ten FF-1080-300 aircraft with an option to lease an additional ten aircraft. Furia intends to operate the aircraft under contract with a freight aircraft operator. The Company has further agreed to build and certify an Extended Range (ER) version of the FF-1080-300 aircraft for Furia. Furia will be responsible for negotiating the terms of lease of the aircraft and the Furia LOI sets the purchase price at $13,500,000 USD FOB per aircraft delivered, plus tax, shipping, transportation costs and other expenses. The purchase price is subject to adjustment in the event Furia makes lease payments directly to suppliers of certain components of the aircraft. The Company will be paid by the lessor of the aircraft pursuant to an Aircraft Purchase Agreement between the Company and the lessor. The Company may pay a broker a 10% commission if a broker is required to acquire a suitable lessor for Furia. The Furia LOI specifies that delivery schedules are to be negotiated and included in the to-be-negotiated Aircraft Purchase Agreement. The Company has not yet entered into substantive negotiations or any definitive lease or aircraft purchase agreements under the Furia LOI. Furia has agreed to provide the Company with an initial “good faith” deposit of $10,000 USD and upon entering into a lease agreement an additional $90,000 USD to be kept in escrow until the aircraft are being produced and to be applied to the purchase price as provided for in the Aircraft Purchase Agreement. Furia has paid neither the good faith deposit nor the additional escrow deposit yet. The Furia LOI is also conditioned upon John Dupont and his management team, remaining in majority ownership or control of the Company.
where are the links to all of this.. I looked at the 8-k from 7/12/06 but didn't find some of the information here...
man, reading this list is giving me a headache..
while there is no way to prove or disprove the document based on its graphical content that I know of.. the timing of this document sure is impeccible. Mind you the bonds that are implied in that C&D order were just published this past month. Is Steven Canady really that impatient that he waits a few weeks before issuing a C&D? And if he is an impatient person, then why is he even investing in this company?
Wouldn't a phone call do with a threatening message saying that he would pull funding be just as effective if not more so?
They should ban naked shorting and illegal pumping... that is the solution..
naked shorting is like conterfeiting, while we all know what illegal pumping is. Do you really trust brokers to act ethical when it comes to policing themselves?
Don't confused NY Post with the New York Post... There are many things about the document that just don't add up. I won't bother repeating them here.
The Dr Mensa talk, I can beleive.. but all he is waiting for is money from what I can tell..
I just did some numerology on some of the poeple's names on this stock. I'm not saying this is accurate, but this is what I get:
timothymiles = 71 see 17. It is less authoritative and is often a loner. (17 is It is spiritual growth, faith, and balance. It is also wealth or bankruptcy. It is an inner struggle to remain true to spiritual and moral values.)
rufusharris = 66 Generous to a fault, this number brings financial ups and downs. It is extremely loyal and loving. Often successful in spite of itself.
benstanley = 99 It represents artistic genius. A person with this number is often misunderstood, and is frequently the victim of gossip. It can bring jealousy and possessiveness to relationships.
coreyribotsky = 43 See 34. It represents concentration, perfectionism, sometimes frustrations, and feelings of inferiority. (34 It is very intelligent. It is spiritual purity through effort. It shares with others, and is a warrior. william gates also is this number, btw)
stevecanady =18 It is involved with business on an international scale, and it is a discordance between idealism and selfishness. There is a lack of conscious spiritual effort.
roddyboyd = 64 See 46. It is less organized and more creative. (46 It represents leadership (see 10), and is often tactless and rude. It is always well prepared and confident.)
conversion solutions holding corporation = 35 It is creative in business. It is an inventor, gadget-designer, or business adviser. It is social, but does not work well with others. It should freelance.
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Anyway, you can choose to beleive or not.. This in no way represent the future of the stock. Just because the poeple in a stock are okay, doesn't mean the investors, or people around it are okay or that the stock will do well.
I think Serf is working on the presumption (rightly or wrongly so), that because of the ribosky financing, the members of CSHD management are also involved. This is all just pure speculation of course. There is no proof, but I guess when there are a lot of unknowns you start having to take positions on what you think is going on.
I got bounced off the room.. is there a 40 person limit?