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According to the promoter, the float can be bigger than the O/S. Just like he told me the O/S can be bigger than the A/S months ago after the previous increase.
So if the float is 3.9billion shares, and preferred/restricted shares exist, then how can the O/S be less than that?
Supposedly the last T/A messed up the #s which is why this happened. Even with messed up numbers, the # of outstanding shares, which is common shares + restricted/preferred shares, would then have to be greater than 3.9billion.
But I guess bringing that up gets you removed permanently from the monkey bars, so I'll be here from now on with all my DD.
Hi guys,
I've just been banned for the last time at the BEHL promotion site, so I've had it. All they do is hide the truth, so I will work now to try to expose everything I can.
The promoter said as of 12/01 he was going to pay $3000 a month, for 3 months, to lock up his shares, and due to that he can receive all the information about the company. Yet then he would just feed that to the peons in the chatroom/message board.
A) is this legal?
B) as BB said, is that even possible to pay an amount per month in order to lock your shares away and have an open ear to the company?
I can't find any law about this anywhere.
its honestly upsetting. i mean the most basic of investors will look for these 3 #s. They are the first thing you see in the financials. And they are wrong, again.
I truly don't understand how anyone can take this seriously when they mess up stuff like that. It just gives no credit to the accuracy of the other numbers in the cash flow, assets, incomes etc.
BID: .0001 x4 /// ASK: .0003 x4
per my TD L2
nice premarket trades on Inca. Lookin good wag
Cant try to make sense or the posts there get deleted.
I bet it will have better success here since actual company discussion and reality is encouraged:
From the financials:
Michael E. Burton
Michael E Burton (pronounced Miq-kel) 48 years old Born in a small province outside of Geneva, Switzerland and
currently residing in Stockholm Sweden.
Enrolled in a Commonwealth Joint Community Nations Task-force for the safety and care of Commonwealth
residents in underprivileged Nations.
In Later life became an avid participant in Marine Biology, and served on served on several joint venture
exploratory missions with the late Jacques Cousteau.
Currently dedicated to providing "Green" solutions for the Planet and Humanity, Michael has spearheaded several
privately owned corporate ventures and is now taking the lead to restore Biocentric Energy Holdings, to it's
original business goals along with diversifying and expanding the company's operations to alternative Fuel and
Power production.
My questions:
1) When do you see a CEO bio that does not list any specific company he has been a part of? Think about past BEHL, or any/every other company in existence. There always is a list of credentials when each person is described. Even on this Q4 document, the other BEHL members Paul J. McGuire and Russell D. Noel list plenty of past companies/education in their bio.
2) How come googling Michael E Burton, Michael E Burton, Mikael Burton, Sweden, or stockholm, or any combo, only yields the BEHL press release?
3) What Commonwealth Joint Community Nations Task-force did he enroll in? Because it can't be the actual name of it since there are no hits of it on the internet either.
New question:
4) If someone as involved as Michael Burton, per his above bio, wanted to keep all their business completely private- Would they be able to completely hide anything about them on the entire internet? I'm trying to think of how that would be possible. The only people I could imagine being able to achieve that would be hardcore undercover CIA agents or people of that caliber that are made to 'not exist' by the gov't or something.
We live in a world where information is everywhere. Why would it be considered blasphemy by some, to ask such questions?
well its been over a month since the PR which said:
'The company's new corporate facility and testing center is located in Salt Lake City, UT and will be announced shortly.
The company website is under reconstruction and is expected to be operational in the very near future.'
So then this should be happening very soon.
Then either,
a)someone can hopefully confirm/deny the existence of the new HQ.
b) no one is near to confirm/deny
c) another month passes and the terms 'shortly' and 'very near future' need to be redefined.
nvm that address is supposedly outdated, so itd make sense for them to not be there. Just gotta wait for the Salt Lake City HQ then.
So I was looking into the current address for the new BEHL HQ. It is an office building with Suite #'s for the different companies etc there. However no Suite # is given for where the BEHL office is. Kinda odd to give an incomplete mailing address.
But anyway, today I contacted another business in the same building, asking for any signs of Biocentric Energy, or Mr. Burton etc, or what suite they are.
His response:
"I believe they were in suite #3. I say were because last I walked by there I believe the space was for lease."
sooo they gone already? or this guy just doesn't know maybe what hes talking about??
Some math (what actually matters) about Q4 per the filings which the investors dont seem to care about:
2010 YTD Q3 total common shares issued netted: $689,200.
2010 YTD Q4 total common shares issued netted: $955,000.
Thus in Q4, The amount of common shares issued yielded $265,800 for the company. The avg share price over Q4 was .000591, which would mean an estimate of ~450 Million shares were sold by the company over that 3 month period. But hey, good idea to deny any dilution until the #s finally come out, and then when they do, just pretend it doesn't matter.
Also $181,500 worth of notes payable were converted to common stock to pay off lenders in Q4. That means approximate ~307 Million shares were given to a Third Party to do with whatever they please.
However, info like this on the report:
"E. Sources and availability of manufacture of hard assets and the names of principal suppliers;
These are closely held company secrets and have great value "
Oh man THAT is the important info in the financials to focus on and get excited about!
when the number of shares is reduced.
Howdy. I have a bet scenario for all!
All,
I am wondering your take on the following. Please read through the conversation in regards to a bet:
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(14:07:28) Chris Jones: id bet that whenever the number of M&Ms in the factory is revealed, both the number will be over 2.5b.
(14:07:40) Phil Smith: and what if it is?
(14:08:10) Phil Smith: what difference is it going to make?
(14:08:11) Chris Jones: then my belief that i said today was correct
(14:08:29) Phil Smith: so your saying its over 2.5B then?
(14:08:34) Chris Jones: yea
(14:08:35) Phil Smith: wanna bet on that ?
(14:08:37) Chris Jones: i think
(14:08:42) Chris Jones: what could we bet
(14:10:25) Phil Smith: so how much over 2.5 B do you think the # of M&Ms is?
(14:10:39) Chris Jones: id guess .5-1b over
(14:10:51) Phil Smith: pick one
(14:13:36) Chris Jones: lol ok
(14:13:54) Phil Smith: so how much over 2.5 B do you think the # of M&Ms is
(14:14:02) Chris Jones: il say 3b M&Ms
(14:14:31) Phil Smith: i'll take that bet, if your wrong you leave the factory and never come back, if your right you get to stay
(14:15:03) Phil Smith: cause i already know its not 3B M&Ms.
(14:15:27) Chris Jones: Doesn't seem like a good bet for me to take then, since i cant really win anything
(14:15:37) Phil Smith: sure you win something
(14:17:02) Phil Smith: tell you what, i'll sweeten the pot a little
(14:17:58) Phil Smith: if the # of M&Ms is 3B, i'll tell you exactly why the Blue M&M really wishes he was a Red M&M.
(14:18:19) Phil Smith: :)
(14:18:34) Chris Jones: hmm i dont care really about that either way
(14:19:02) chatdude1: oohhh I know. Reveal your real identity to him!!
(14:19:54) Phil Smith: OK, i'll do that Chris Jones, if the # of M&Ms is 3B i'll tell you who I really am, if its not then you leave the factory and never come back
(14:20:10) Chris Jones: how bout- If I win, you post a memo in the factory that you were wrong about this and I was right, nice and simply w/o ifs or buts
(14:20:13) Chris Jones: or that
(14:20:51) Chris Jones: but- you cant just say 'the # of M7Ms is X. im right- cya dude'. This data has to be revealed by the company or on the M&M data website.
((14:21:40) Phil Smith: If the # of M&Ms is actually 3B, i'll post a memo in the factory that Chris Jones guessed the right number... but......
(14:21:42) Chris Jones: this is a win/win/win for anyone here!
(14:22:04) Phil Smith: the number has to come straight from the company itself, and not via way of the M&M data website.
(14:22:40) Chris Jones: cause even if my horrible self is gone from here, at least customers get the # of M&Ms.
(14:23:16) Phil Smith: and in the end, what good will it serve, it will be what it is and no one can do anything about it.
(14:23:34) chatdude2: thanks for jumping on that hand grenade Chris Jones:)
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It turns out the # of M&Ms was revealed to be over 3 billion, straight from the company. Please take the following survey and feel free to give a reason to your answer. Thanks!
actually weird, on page 3 it says
Outstanding shares: 3,467,378,983
but on page 23 it says:
Outstanding: 3,915,092,477
??
Item VI The number of shares or total amount of the securities outstanding for each class of securities authorized.
Period end Date; December 31, 2010
Number of shares authorized; 5,000,000,000
Number of shares outstanding; 3,467,378,983
Freely tradable shares (public float): 3,125,247,000
Lower than I'd have guessed, but still the O/S has jumped quite a bit over the 2.3B number. But yea we were out of our heads for saying so once again.
i saw that. greedy do u think behl is going to get suspended? Or are you caught up at all on the hilarity going on?
but is it really hard to believe? think about some of the other stuff the investors have had to believe about what happened here.
The Transporter is more realistic.
The press releases have literally been full of BS and lies for a while now. It's truly comical that one would rather put their faith in only what is said there, vs everything else. I just can't believe the same people are trying to justify things all the way from .01+ to where it is now. I can't wrap my head around it.
It's the equivalent of this steadily gaining for a year and being at $10.00+, and me saying that this is a bad investment and trash. Everyone else would say 'look at the history dude- you make no sense and are not basing what you say on any data and/or historical facts'.
i think you are missing bull's sarcasm
i didnt have the patience for GSRE and got out just before 2011. booooooo!
was watching it last week and now today and im kicking myself.
oh yea im dumb- saw a big volume # but that was fridays
my L2 on TD is blank- are there no MMs or is my command center just messed up right now?
how do you plan to get your $ back?
can you clarify- in all honesty I don't understand what you are saying/asking?
nice dividend
ANWM finally looking strong. fightin to break the .02 now it seems. GL
this whole thing is beyond such a joke now. Each ridiculous story/explanation just makes it more and more unlikely that it all can be true. You probably have better odds winning the 290million megamillion lotto than the odds of BEHL being a true victim and on the way to a rebound.
I'm just tired of anyone saying otherwise at this point. They've been wrong, this investment is and has been garbage like we've said for a while now. There is no logic at all to keep behlieving in this joke.
The only reason most are still here is because of the sheer entertainment value. The enjoyment in watching the immense collapse of a company that lied to us all, as well as the collapse of the followers who trashed and cried about each of us, only to be proven wrong.
Keep up the good work!
better luck next time noob :)
taking notes from the big man's strategy and playing hide and seek?
who knows at this point? he could be taking a break after delivering presents, or putting money under childrens' pillows in exchange for teeth as well. I am catching up from the weekend but there is no confirmation on who he is or if he is even a real person currently, right?
i think having to wait up to a month for a PR from him is a bit much. Some update on the website or something should have happened or some type of 'greetings' to his new shareholders.
its been entertaining for a while already. Should listen to DF's interview last night. What a difference from back then.
yea keep in mind debt was $290k per the last interview. $200k in the last 1.5months. Joke. I'm just listening now but finding it all very funny.
Many examples and many truths. I expect as you said to add more to the list after tonight.
i was gonna say, a picture would speak volumes and should not be too much to ask
"All my opinion, but like I said before, we are looking at sink or tread to the stairs."
I'd have to think we are sinking more than floating right now... We are probably a few miles underwater, just not yet at the Mariana Trench yet.
There has been 2,180,000 shares traded at .0001 already this morning
Current Level2: .0001x3 BID // .0002x2 ASK
.0001's have printed today on December 22nd, 2010.
No word directly from the company since the mass exodus.
Hate it or love it- it's good to be a 'basher' aka realist. The writing has been on the wall and if anyone could have sacrificed some of their pride and actually listened, you would have saved yourself some money (probably a lot).
10 MILLION shares today can be bought for what you got 160,000 shares for 6 months ago. How bout that?
it could be a dumb investor as well, as option 3
yea go buy them!
Honestly I doubt it...
a) Lol I don't think DF knows that much about algae.
b) I also couldn't imagine DF spending that much time to do this.
c) P is usually up at 6am EST (or earlier), this would be 3am PST where DF is located.
good luck on getting your free shares seatrade.
Happy Holidays
banyon my companion- the stock is at .0002...
When does it end? the people you felt sorry for are able to buy 10-100x as much Behl as before for the same price, with no worries of not getting shares