is figuring out how he's going to end up losing all his money... too many consecutive green days is going to bring forth some AWFUL karma...
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FWIW I just wrote a message to Marlene asking if Anviron has communicated with them at all regarding the dividend (not that it even applies to me... I'm just curious)
My email:
Hi Marlene,
I'm not sure how much information you are allowed to give me... but are you in talks with Anviron regarding sorting out this whole dividend issue that you guys apparently didn't even know about?
Thanks,
*********
Her reply:
Dear Mr. ********,
Actually, according to the A/C ADMINISTRATOR for ANIVORN here at CST, the company has still not responded to any e-mails, etc. that have been communicated to them. If you’re not aware as yet, the information regarding the DIVIDEND PAYMENT, was posted onto their website. You can go to “YAHOO.COM”, click on “FINANCE”, type in the company’s name in the “QUOTES” box provided, and you should see the press release that was posted on their website, regarding such. The contact Ms. Polly Anderson, has a 800 # for inquiries.
Have a good day.
Regards,
Marlene.
yeah I ended up buying back in at 1.39 after selling at 1.42
Sold BEE at 1.42... hoping to get back in on a gap fill
My fiance doesn't complain... jk... it probably makes me seem like either a jerk or a fatty... hah!
Cool... maybe I'll hang on for a little longer then...
Do you have a target? I was thinking about getting out around the 1.50s...
So you're saying fourkids will know before everyone else when there is an update on the website?
Picked up some BEE today
Is there any update yet on when the website will be launched? Someone mentioned in a previous post that Polly claimed they were supposed to launch the new website Friday, May 1...
I'm very interested to see if they put up their new website today like they mentioned before.
Back when I was a shareholder (Sept.-Oct. 2008) and someone found the template they used to make their current website... I was told to "wait until their new website comes out"... it's been a long time waiting for me... I'm interested to see the improvements or if they release a new website...
1.40+ Premarket
I really like the volume it has had in the 1.25-1.34 range...
Nice! I've been watching it on my watch list... and after this morning I decided to jump in for a 20% gain
I picked some up today at 1.15... I'd be happy to get 1.50
I don't follow... do I what?
All I was saying was his tone was harsh and I wouldn't extend the courtesy of responding to an email like that... regardless of whether or not I was a legitimate business owner.
Seriously though, if I received an email like that (whether I was a crook or not) I probably wouldn't respond to it...
I don't know anything about the location in Seattle... but my uncle's law firm has a p.o. box in downtown Chicago just so that they could say they had an address on a particular street in Chicago. But I'm not sure if this is prime location in Seattle or not... maybe they have similar reasonings? Is this a desirable address?
I got an email back from Marlene about 5 hrs ago... I'm not sure who said that the T/A was gagged... because she has given me info whenever I asked...
fromMarlene Cunningham <mcunningham@continentalstock.com>
to --Name Removed-- <--email removed--@gmail.com>
dateTue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:55 PM
subjectRE: ANVH O/S
hide details 2:55 PM (5 hours ago) Reply
Dear Mr. --Name Removed--,
Please note the following information below:
Number of shares issued and outstanding for THE ANVIRON HOLDING COMPANY as of current date - 255,877,032.
We trust this information is satisfactory for your needs.
Regards,
Marlene.
From: --Name Removed--[mailto:--email removed--@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 2:27 PM
To: Marlene Cunningham
Subject: Re: ANVH O/S
- Hide quoted text -
Good afternoon Ms. Cunningham,
Could you give me the latest O/S on ANVH please?
Thanks,
------
As of this morning, the O/S has not changed since the March 5th email she sent me...
Now someone accused me of making up these dates... but you can call her yourself... and there's no reason for me to be modifying dates.
To those saying the T/A is gagged or w/e, Marlene turned around and answered my email in 30 mins... so I'm not really sure where that came from.
I would agree that it makes them credible... in that if they said they would be paying another dividend, I would believe they would pay it. Just because they can give out a dividend does not prove that they are a real company with existing operations.
I'm not saying they are not real. I think this is getting dragged on further than it needs to be... all I am saying is that a dividend does not prove they are real. It does not legitimize the company. It definitely helps the credibility of the company's dividend paying ability.
I'm not calling them a scam... I was just refuting the suggestion that a dividend may legitimize the company.
Heck I'd buy and sell just after the ex date to get the next dividend... after seeing they paid the last one... but it still doesn't legitimize them as a company.
This is not a bash... but just because they issue a dividend, doesn't necessarily legitimize Anviron as a company. Afterall, didn't Madoff issue dividends?
Again, I'm not bashing... just agreeing that it doesn't legitimize Anviron.
I told you before... pm me your email account and I will forward the email to you. If you can't believe someone's post about an email, are we suppose to believe your phone conversation saying it isn't true? Did you also see that I posted another email saying the same O/S on March 4th? Why would I need to lie about the email on March 27th? NOTHING CHANGED between the 2 emails...
she can dispute all she wants... have her check her "sent messages" folder... why would I make it up? It has the SAME O/S as the email she sent me on 03/05/2009... there would be no reason for me to change dates...
wow are you serious? pm me your email and I'll forward it to you... I know this is a public message board and that I have a free account, but I don't make things up. She can call me a liar, but if she is really trying to say she didn't email me that will make me lose more faith in this company... especially when the pps is just starting to come back up...
Ask her if she remembers sending out an email this date and time:
date Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 7:49 AM
(copied and pasted directly from my gmail inbox)
and here's where I posted only about 20 mins after she emailed me:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=36604853
Is she also denying this email:
fromMarlene Cunningham <mcunningham@continentalstock.com>
to____________ <---------@gmail.com>
dateThu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:16 PM
subjectRE: ANVH O/S
hide details Mar 5 Reply
Dear Mr. ________,
Pursuant to your inquiry, please note the following:
As of the close of buisness, 03/04/2009 - 255,877,032
Have a good day.
Regards,
Marlene.
The quoted O/S she gave me back on 3/5/2009 was the same as the one she gave me on 3/27/2009...
Here is the email I received from Marlene a week ago:
[Marlene Cunningham to me show details Mar 27 (7 days ago)]
Good morning Mr. ________.
As requested – the issued and outstanding for ANVIRON as of close of business yesterday, 03/26/2009 is – 255,877,032.
Have a good day.
Regards,
Marlene.
--
I thought many others got this answer as well. I'm not sure where people started talking about 225M again...
I don't remember them having one listed since I've been paying attention to this company ~ around September 2008
I'm also wondering what they are going to determine... the way it is worded it does sound like they aren't sure if they are going to pay the divi or not... though it would only make sense for them to pay it... it is worded funny.
FWIW:
Marlene Cunningham to me
show details 7:49 AM (21 minutes ago)
Good morning Mr. Hugh Jass.
As requested – the issued and outstanding for ANVIRON as of close of business yesterday, 03/26/2009 is – 255,877,032.
Have a good day.
Regards,
Marlene.
Okay, I stand corrected then... Anviron did not contradict themselves since they did not directly pay for awareness then say they didn't care about the pps. My argument on this company's lack of marketing remains...
Thank's for the correction, polk
And... this may have been said before... but if the company was not worried about the stock price... why would you pay for awareness? Surely that can't be for marketing purposes... because I was made aware of this company through that process and I have absolutely no idea how I could decide to buy their products. As a matter of fact, I've been told on this board that they don't do retail sales, so we don't need to know more info on their products. So the awareness definitely wasn't a marketing expense... in that they were trying to get their product out there.
It never really did strike me until just now... why did they pay for awareness if they didn't care about the pps?
Please note that I am in no way criticizing Righty and/or Market Medias or any other company on the quality of their awareness programs. I was merely using the awareness as an example to show that there seems to be very little marketing done by Anviron AND that Anviron's statements about not caring about the pps seem to contradict each other.
For a small company like this I can't imagine it costing millions to market. They paid $100 for a website template... to which they barely changed anything (even the music is the same). I know there have been talks of a new website... but I remember hearing the same thing 6 months ago. Honestly I don't recall whether I was told this on Ihub or if it was in a chat room where the awareness was being spread.
Now, I would like to give them the benefit of a doubt... but how long does it take for a small company to gain approval to put up a website? A better website that actually gives good information to potential clients... I would think would be a priority. I would not imagine that it would be pending approval for months.
And another thing on the marketing point... what marketing? I feel very confident in my Googling abilities. I have not found ANYTHING other than PRs on Anviron via Google searches. I don't care what they say... if you can't be found using Google... you need to spend another 100 bucks and get your name out there. I work for private company with less than 20 employees. However, when you search for my company... it shows up. And I'm pretty sure we've spent less than 1000 dollars on marketing!
Sorry, I kinda just went off on a rant when I read the sentence about it taking millions to market and sell...
you are misunderstanding... if they told you... it's NOT CONFIDENTIAL! How do they know who you are and that you are trustworthy? Why would they trust YOU with secret information that they cannot have posted on a public message board? I'm assuming all they know is your email address and possibly your [real] name? This company seems pretty tight lipped on other confidential issues (such as the infamous Marfa [area] property).
The issue with Moshe was that he was an insider... he most likely signed a confidentiality agreement. Did you sign any such agreement saying that you would refrain from posting information they sent you? Besides... they've already stated in the past that they don't care what the message boards say...
How could they possibly take any legal action against you for sharing it? Are you not the public? Thus them leaking info to you... would be leaking info to the public?
question about the dividend... since I don't know much about them...
If you bought before the ex date and held through the record date... would you be receiving a dividend no matter what? Or would have had to hold onto the shares until the dividend pay date? I don't qualify for the dividend and do no own the stock short or long... I was just wondering.
If one bought for the ex date and held through till now, even with the dividend, they would still be down 12%... and that's if they bought at .004
I'm not saying it is or is not legitimate, but wouldn't you get 2 bachelor's degrees if you had a double major? That doesn't explain everything, but couldn't that explain how one could get many different bachelor's degrees in a shorter period of time.
One question (not trying to open a can of worms with this credentials argument)... is he a registered Professional Engineer (P.E.)? What would an environmental engineering master's degree do for you if you weren't a professional engineer? Not saying it doesn't do anything... but I know that you can't certify anything without being registered... and maybe he doesn't need to certify anything... just a question I had.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=35801443
It was 225M only a couple weeks ago. 225M does not = 255M
I'm pretty sure it's not clockwork... the bashing is ongoing... not without good reason. You say it's happening just before financials are released. I disagree... there's no conspiracy because the bashing doesn't just start up again just before financials come out. Those that think this is a scam are always voicing their opinion.
I'm sorry... I burst out laughing when I read that name, Phuket... gotta see the irony there.