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There needs to be more details, do shareholders get compensated for the mining piece of the business that is not included in the deal? What is the conversion percentage?
i got it at almost 3 times pps now depending on price of northern---why no one isnt seeing this is beyond me---direction for future needed and they are still silent here!!they seem to give a F ABOUT SHAREHOLDERS AND THEIR PPS....tmonkey
deal is sighned and done---apart from details -- that are way over pps today----i have added almost every day-- we know nothing until company opens its mouth---email them -i have sent many--tmonkey
I believe the announcement last week was that the company investors voted to go forward to make a deal. I am not sure whether the deal was signed off on and competed the regulatory processes. I too would like to have an update or any kind of specific information from hydro. If we are getting Northern shares, I would like them to get the mining piece also. Not sure how how a continuation of a shell company would benefit the common shareholders, maybe this is the "sensitive information" and why everything is so secretive. If the sale is completed, do we know the formula on the conversion of stock?
northern up 10% today-when do we catch fire--directors asleep not comunicating with us---they own alot of y the shares but not ALL OF THEM!! THEY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO LET US KNOW WHERE WE ARE HEADED-now that deal is wrapped up---pro rated shares in northern data???--SUITS ME FINE!!---i will have a boat full coming my way!!and then some--------tmonkey
we got northern shares for 60€-they are trading around 100 euro!-and they have been over 140 recently-----looks like a sweet deal -and i actually like northern!!--when they decide direction here we go up and at under half price to book i would think people will start buying earlier---my money is where my mouth is on this one!!--tmonkey
They need new leadership, people with some business sense and savvy to understand opportunities, trends and margins. Idiots were competing in a low margin space with very large companies, believing that everyone would switch over to them because of climate change. If they had only focused their business on crypto everyone could have retired by now. What a bunch of donkeys!
the bidders here take alot more than shows on l-2 and when the ask is hit kaboom--the ask is ultra thin -look at eod here-----imo-up from here----and a new direction ---crypto??-will really get this going-i have added almost daily and now boat sinking -sooner or later they will come with an announcement!!---tmonkey
How does a separate mining operation benefit the shareholders? Why is specific information hard to get?
nothing will happen here until new direction is announced----selling is the people that liked the old business plan--im still a buyer--tmonkey
If the deal happens and stock is converted to Northern Data, how does withholding the mining segment benefit shareholders?
I hope that the crypto farming unit becomes part of the deal. Other crypto farming companies saw their stocks explode. Not sure why hydro wasn't focused on the farming aspect, must be poor management, instincts or both.
Looks like investors are not interested, no appreciation, higher volume-probably a rush to cash out.
my[ previous mail taking the deal apart is my best shot ---northern still trading around 135-140! EUROS--in not in for the penny here went for the pound!!I have added almost daily--today included---NOW LETS SEE A PR OF BTC AND ETHER MINING WITH THE PROCEEDS---THERE WOULD BE MONSTER RUSH ON THE FEW SHARES OUT THERE IN FLOAT!!---tmonkey
Hopefully the sale goes through. Glad everything, shares and assets are in the proposed deal.
SALE CONFIRMED!-now we head north-big bids coming in now---all info on website---tmonkey
wow you have a good pps-i think they bit off more than they could chew---filling the space was going too slowly---my best guess is the deal will be completed any day now and announced---giving us a nice windfall here----on northerns datas site it is a done deal so i dont know when hydro will give us a confirmation---wish i had an avg of .17-i imagine i have a few % of the float when i use the low number i have--i guess you got in recently!!--tmonkey
tmonkey-do you know why they sold off all their assets? i thought the data ctr and the bitcoin mining were definite money makers! i own about 50,000 shares at .17 so sure would like to hear what they plan to do! i could use a few bananas too!
Do we know for certain that the meeting took place? You would think a press release would follow ?????!
nothing i can see yet but will come to their website??i have emailed on this-tmonkey
northern-142€----meeting over so now they can open up with new direction---i took half the volume yesterday and big chunks last week as well---this hac become my biggest holding paid for crypto related sales---this i hope will take the crypto route and northern is involved in all the right plays---would love to know the exact pps we got our 21 mill €at-my guess is under 100---making it a 42% gain already on our deal---hope they pr meeting details asap----tmonkey
NORTHERN TRADING AT 137€PPS!!------we are geting 21 mill€ worth at somewhere under 100!!-not sure but could be 30 millEURO? with the 4 mill cash it is 40 mill usd ---the market cap here is 21 mill usd!!! havent done the exact math.--what a windfall-!!!-tomorrow some hours trading before meeting and even though my boat is sinking ill be buying with both hands dont understand .17 pps here but maybe that is not the case soon---one onlu has to do the math here---and i have mailed them use all the procceds on crypto mining at your own facility with an extra good deal from northern-if this is anywhere the direction they take 1 dollar pps in a flash--they already have their MEGA-MINIG set up and ready to go---i dont think these guys will drop the ball-MY MONEY IS WHERE MY MOUTH IS ON THIS ONE---and this is not an attempt to get any one of you 3 readers to buy a share---do your own dd here and anywhere you are going to invest!!!!!!!!!!!-as they say in the congo---even a blind monkey can sometimes find a bannana-----i think i have found the tree!------tmonkey
TUESDAY -d day here---there are some hours to trade tues am before the meeting and ill be a buyer---tmonkey
the meeting will explain all ---my take is a DONE DEAL at 4 mill euros cash and 21 mill euro stock which will be closer to 25 mill euro as they take 30 day avg----stock today 122 euro !!-but traded at 70 euro mid period---all in all i see a 50% plus premium to the pps today---mkt value at close-21.5 mill$---my guess at deal is 35 mill $ i have been adding all week and will continue to add tuesday in the hours before meeting!! i have also written my ideas to the co . on how to use the procceds and if they even mention they will begin on this track an easy double-if im dead wrong ill find out after meeting and sellers today must not agree with my math!!!--ill be in the mkt on tuesday again--hope some people are still looking in here - -tmonkey
They are not in a leveraged position for this deal in my opinion. At the end of the day they will settle for whatever they are offered.
what the ? here is what direction the co . will take with the assets from the sale and that probably comes at the meeting---i am reviewing the deal later today and will get back later today --i have emailed them on the path i hope theuy take but of course true to their past-no response!!---tmonkey
The problem is that hydro is losing its leverage. This decision or a decision to hire a talented management team should have happened way before this point. I watched a hyped video last year about this company and crypto mining claims, seemed like a no-brainer. Cloud services and crypto are exploding with help from covid! Please sell everything except the employees, no need for their expertise.
if anybody stops by any more??-if you do the math this is worth more than .16-i am dark red with my position but confident when terms are layed out at meeting i will be ok-and it is a done deal --actually im a buyer here up to the meeting----in for a penny in for a pound!!!!!!!-----tmonkey
i asked but no answer -i think their crypto was minimal and --it will all come out in the meeting---looks like selling up to meeting so far---.17 is an avg dn for me----i liked their data center but it wasnt selling space as fast as they expected----northern will fill it up in a week!--that northern isnt a bad company just alot larger than i usually look at----tmonkey
Does anyone know if their crypto business is performing? Hope they sell the whole company. They were hoping that companies would buy their services to save the planet from the global warming scam. The only piece of the business that made sense was crypto.
used more time on the proxy today-the fist reading i glansed over the form getting tired of all the discenting info-------now i have a better take---pps of northern will be an avg over last 30 days that is a plus as the shares are getting stronger daily with btc---up 7 euro just today---a plus--the co had taken loans from directors --which will be paid back ----and its a done deal ---also verified on northern board----all in all i think we are to low here at .18---im a buyer this week--got a ton of $ from a crypto play that is moon bound---anything under .20 is an avg dn for me as i got in higher and 2 early---ill take a chance here ---but no new direction was mentioned---i call crypto with the proceeds and northern is there too-------glta---im tired of typing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-tmonkey
if we get out correct share of the proceeds and why wouldnt we--the pps now is way under our share of the deal and a piece of the shell to boot-who knows what plans they have for that-crypto anyone???---northern isnt a bad investment either if we get shares there with cash --northern trading at 90€ now and maybe we got a better price for the 21 mill---that is my main ? here -but who knows what the meeting will reveal---im probably adding this week as i cant see a downside to our share of the sale and a big shot at 30-40 % from .17-.18 now--im actually avging dn here--if they want to take it private ill consider a double per share--and i think they would still be getting a deal---tmonkey
i finally unlocked it hidden in my fidelity accnt-----cash would be fine as it is 10-20 cents over pps now DEPENDING ON PPS OF NORTHERN USED!!--- but i understand the 21 mill in shares is restricted 2 yrs---so how do they become cash---the co .says nada --so it is wait until the meeting---the directors have 70% here !!--so that nr is them---ill be looking closly 4-5 days before meeting to add under .20 but will give it until then to see if any news comes out---tmonkey--
Did you get your Proxy for the meeting?
I've been super-busy w/ various projects lately so didn't get into the details too much...
Basically the 70% owners want the cash "plus consideration" as it exceeds asset value, and then HYHDF is going to become a shell.
How this will play out going forward for shareholders is anybody's guess.
GLTA
ok here is my take-what they get from the sale is a good bit over.18 usd-they already own most of the company so why not slowly buy up the rest and take the arbitrage which i get at MAYBE over .10 usd per share!!---i DONT KNOW! just what i would do in their shoes i came here for the data center they sld and others as well are selling because that dream is gone-i hve posted before a week before the meeting if the pps is at .16-.18 i will buy with both hands but will have no real handle on it until the meeting-i have asked them every ? under the sun and all was too SENSITIVE!! FOR A COMMON SHAREHOLDER----THATS ALL I GOT------tmonkey
monkey- Is it your understanding that our shares would be converted to Northern? After paying liabilities fees and possible unknowns it would seem that common stock shareholders may not fare very well. I would not want shell company shares of hydro, have very little confidence in that team. It also looks like one of the options if the deal doesn't fly is that hydro could be delisted. Will we be able to attend the meeting virtually? If we can't attend, then some investors will be able to act on information before others. Just wish that I had information from Hydro sooner about their reason for selling. I was originally sold on the idea of their crypto mining capabilities.
our votes dont matter as the directors own most of the stock----even though they wouldnt give me the time of day all in all they seem less than criminal and hopefully will get the shell moving in another green direction---at pps today in down a lot so i think money wise it can only get better----my main ? now is at what pps the shares in northern were priced at???-and got no answer there as well as all my other inquirys-----the meeting will come -yes is the vote --what they do with the €s is the ?---holders that dont like the deal are dumping daily as this is all you can do about it-----tmonkey
You guys couldn't handle the truth! Trust us and vote "yes" Ummmmkay?
Does anyone know why the structure of the deal would leave a H66 shell company with no assets, other than to keep employees and move into another business? Would a total buyout be more advantageous to common shareholders? What are the real issues and priorities of the regulators, of the company, board of directors, principals etc. I cannot physically go to the meeting and cannot vote without knowing important information. What are the fiduciary responsibilities of the company to make information available to shareholders and answer questions? Is everybody comfortable with just trusting?
the co is real tight lipped before the meeting--i have mailed and called co . many times with same answer that info is too sensitive to release to a single shareholder!!! even though my ?s were very general imo----my guess is they are not very active in the crypto space-ie mega mining whose name they keep --i still have recieved nothing about meeting and have a bundle od shares here--tmonkey
I am also confused on the crypto-mining segment of the company. I was under the impression from the company press release a few weeks ago that they were keeping that part of the business, however the new document seems to contradict. Can someone clarify for me or at least give me their interpretation?
Did everyone get their "Notice of Special Meeting" and voting form? I just read the information that was presented. It seems to me that there are some major added risks going forward. Before I vote, the company should be very specific as to what the mechanics of the deal look like. They should be able to handle a virtual meeting for investors that will be more transparent than only offering their legal protections. The document provided to me has created more questions than answers, a virtual meeting should also have a question and answer segment. It also looks like the dissent process gets extremely involved. There are many aspects of this document that are extremely concerning. I hope that the company will get out in front of this to address so many shareholder concerns.
i have mailed the co with your question and many others-they are silent saying all is too sensitive-so we wait until meeting---the directors have very dee pockets here so finances are not a problem and the operation in swe. got me here---they never answered on mining capasity also----tmonkey
There probably is much pressure for the sale to go through, I hope that it does. The company has no choice because they are in such poor financial shape. When I first started purchasing it was because of an ad that promoted their crypto mining capabilities and low costs. I assumed with the rise of crypto currencies the company would be in a great position regardless of the pandemic. If the sale of assets does occur, how would the conversion and pricing of stock shares happen?
if any one still reads this board???-i have a theory of the dumper here---cypherpunk had somewhere under 5 mill sh and didnt like the asset sale so are taking what they can get for other investments-all conjecture but any normal invester wouldnt take .16 here unless they had a dam# good other place to invest--as i said in 2 weeks im gonna be looking hard again at this---maybe even lower if im right about cypherpunk!!! bleedin red for the time being but i think the meeting will change this---see you all in 2 weeks in other words ill write again to myself but im used to it!!--tmonkey
if my gld ticker takes off i will put it all here a week before the meeting----what a deal if it stays here------tmonkey
someone is getting cheap shares-but volume next to nada-i tested the mkt yesterday and every bid i put in got topped----every time!! so i just gave up-----i have alot and will just wait until the meeting---hope they need my shares bad enough to pay for my time here---i have no idea why no one doesnt figure out these have a bk value above pps here---but then again it is unknown or i wouldnt be here myself----------see yall when the meeting tells us the story here----tmonkey
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