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A judge will decide that.
If any employee including a CEO develops a clone 3 while he was employed under the company name ENZC and got paid by ENZC, Clone 3 is belonged to the company, NOT the individual because his name is on it, especiaily when Clone 3 falls under the same category of the type of products that being worked on by ENZC
Similarly, Chandra's AI patent is also belonged to ENZC because he developed this AI while he was employed by ENZC. Chandra's AI product falls in the same category of what ENZC was working on
Whatever an employee develops while being employed by ENZC, that drug is belonged to the company ENZC, NOT the individual.
That is the policy what I have been told by my company.
I strongly believe a judge will see to it.
Now we need a lawyer to defend this. Who here are in? Our lawyer will send a notification to Charles and Chandra to let them know that they cannot just simply run away with the the products that we shareholders helped them develop with our investing monies.
They would not have abandoned ENZC if they were legally aware of this
Are you serious? You don’t own someone else’s patent just bc you voluntarily invested money in a publicly traded stock of their company.
I feel sorry for the ones here that held long and did not trade until it was too late to profit.
I made much bank here trading in the past and the shares I sold today and the ones I have left are and where free riding shares.
From past profits. Hind sight I should have sold more sooner.
I have lost faith here for now anyway like many others.
I keeping a couple of million shares for now just in case.
I feel sorry for the ones here that held long and did not trade until it was too late to profit.
I made much bank here trading in the past and the shares I sold today and the ones I have left are and where free riding shares.
From past profits. Hind sight I should have sold more sooner.
I have lost faith here for now anyway like many others.
I keeping a couple of million shares for now just in case.
So ENZC has the goods, and whatever the goods are still need to be trial-tested.
Because SAGA deal fails and there is so much legal web is involved, Charles had to detach himself from this, and opened his new lab to continue with his work? Will ENZC shareholders benefit any of whatever Charles and Chandra are doing?
Charles and Chandra were using our investing money to develop and create their patents. Should the patents belong to us shareholders legally?
I believe we shareholders own the intellectual properties even when the patents have charles and Changra names on them. They were using our money to create them.
We need the legal system to defend us
I don't think so, Chandra was associated with U of Colorado as a faculty member a long time ago. I think he retains consulting ties with them on a different project. When I first was in touch with him back in 2020, he was using a Colorado.edu email account.
It was a surprise that it was the first door he took me to and opened, YES. It was just behind the locked areas in the back. The front halls and leased lab offices are in the front, so I walked that by myself first, before I went and met up with him.
SO DID you go inside? If so, WHAT did you find? Thank you~
They obviously have 'something' a lot of folks want. I have the guy at A&M sending me an example of what they paid for their duration in that pair of labs. They are not cheap.
Can someone explain why Chandra G. Linked account has University of Colorado name on it?? Could Chandra and Charles be using some research labs at University of Colorado??
Hope you did not lose too much. I can't say I won't do the same, but I'm under at this point, and what I'd get back out of my half-million shares won't do it. I'll just count it as a loss for now, sit tight, and see if any patent news jumpstarts it again.
Who knows, maybe an African Trial result will actually come in. LOL....
GLTY
Thanks, I bet seeing the Name Enzolytics on the door and knowing this was open for lease , was a YOWSER moment.
I did the same thing a couple of days ago. When the bashers took control of the board a couple days ago. I am still pissed
I have no real idea, but we should all keep eyes on them. Could be a leveraged move to keep ENZC working with them and not without them too.
To my view, imho, the odds lay slightly in favor to what you just posted. Yes.
It's always possible, but they had no forwarding information, other than Charle's house probably. Maybe the Plano-based office, but they knew nothing about a new lab or larger facility. (The only had the info on the original lease contract)
I'd bet they're scrambling to find a new revenue source and would execute a new lab facility shortly after that. The reason I say this, they moved out fast, just 2 days before the PR hit, timing to me is more than coincidence, so I'm in the belief they had to leave fast, most of their work was done, and a new lab probably won't happen until a new funding trench is arranged.
GLTA
I may have jumped the gun but I took it as more bad news and just sold over half of my core position.
I will keep a few million shares here just in case and check in from time to time.
Time for me to concentrate on my other plays that have been moving like comparing how IGPK is moving and profiting traders like enzc use to do.
where is MABs Tech site located? I really like to have a visit there.
I have a feeling ENZC may be putting out more PRs soon
If it was, and I'd bet there is no new lab yet, the staff at A&M did not have a clue. They kinda' had the impression most of ENZC's research project had completed but were not certain.
"I've seen a lot of labs like this, this one was tops. Scams, even partial scams, don't pay this kind of dough in PINK land. "
So you are saying that ENZC has the goods ?
Yes, exactly.
You're welcome.
Yes, please check all of my morning posts, 3 pictures, the embed tool on this site does not work well.
ALSO, what slight glance I got of the Bioclinetics Lab, as others were moving in, looked like the lab interior used in the MABS-Tech video with Joseph Catropia. Not the ENZC lab, but the other Bioclintetics lab. I'd have to bet, that was recently done, or shot long ago, and just used for MABS Tech after they closed down at Texas A&M.
It was probably intended for ENZC use originally, but since it never saw website daylight for ENZC, the took it with them and used it on MABS-Tech's site.
GLTA
MORE INFO:
The Center's Information Manager came by to say hi. I got to ask him more questions about some general ENZC items.
To A&M, both Bioclinetics and ENZC were always the same customer, on paperwork and legally to them. There was no real autonomy or separation between those labs's staff or resources being used by both. As far as A&M is concerned, Bioclinetics IS ENZC, they just used two different lab names with slightly different equipment.
This info manager was part of the vetting team when ENZC first leased the labs. He was impressed his tech staff thought ENZC really had something, and occasional interns did help staff the labs on certain days by ENZC requests. He said they kept fairly busy as far as he knew, and after year 1, the lease went month-to-month, because as he put it, "ENZC seemed unsure if this facility was a long-term solution or if a larger company building would be needed later."
ENZC was reported to be doing Human and Animal research in regard to their projects. All else he said was private company information he knew nothing about.
It was my impression, based upon both of their expressions, that they were a little surprised when ENZC left, and it was sudden. Their listing to lease the old ENZC lab had just gone up to new prospective lessees about 48 hours before I arrived.
I told them I knew the name because relatives of mine had bought some of their stock. I had heard second-hand that they had a bit of a business dust-up and I was unsure of what they were doing now. (Exaggerated a little to get more info.)
Since I was also there on my daughter's behalf, I was not totally lying.
They seemed genuinely obvious to ENZC business issues, told me they knew nothing about that, only that they needed to vacate right away, and that their research work was basically completed anyway. This last part may have, or may not have, been bs on ENZC's part, you have to draw your own conclusions.
The two I spoke with were also unaware of the names I used for the researchers working inside the labs. I can tell you, ENZC had to pay some real $$$ to run and maintain those 2 labs, that place is state of the art, and well managed. I've seen a lot of labs like this, this one was tops. Scams, even partial scams, don't pay this kind of dough in PINK land. So, I'm firmly in the corner of mass incompetence and/or some corrupt activity here, but not that they don't have the goods.
And I got a speeding ticket in a speed trap coming back down Raymond Stotzer Parkway as I left there. a 4-lane highway of sorts where the speed ranges from 35 - 60 MPH every 60 yards or so. What a racket they've got there in College Station! I went back and checked to be sure. So, never say I didn't take one for the team here.
I was later told, by some colleagues at my trade show last night in Bryan, that the 3 main parkways running East-West across their main campus area are notorious for rip-off speed traps. I was just so happy..... BTW, "F" KoP.
Any questions? I'll try to answer.
To Natty, you don't need to ask. Yes.
That makes sense. Intellectual Properties are most important now
Do they need labs anymore? According to their latest PR they do not need to develop anything. Not having labs will save them a lot of funds.
Docsetc, did you get any explanation, such as why and when, and is there only the one picture? They took that Mab Tech picture in some lab. A year or so ago they were talking about moving to a larger lab in another building. Is that a possibility?
Thanks for going there!
Where did the lab get moved to? a new location?
Thank You docsetc for taking all that time and effort to check it out.
Thanks Doc!
So did I hear you right the ENZC lab is unoccupied and for lease?
As you can see in the previous 3 pictures, the ENZC lab was cleaned out. Management told me they cleared out, by my accounting, about 2 days before the PR was posted about the new board election.
The Bioclinetics Lab was also cleared out, and I was unable to take pictures of that, because another company on the waiting list to get a lab, had already begun moving in.
Both labs were cleared out and shut down on the same day. No MABS Tech has tried to lease a lab there yet, and has not been heard from. The names Biogenysis and Virogentics have also not been heard from before or to date by the Facilities management team who handle this PreClinical Trials Lab Center.
The old office area ENZC had in front of their labs hall, was also empty, completely empty. All furniture, cabinets and pictures gone.
I guess all the research is finished. Patents are the key now . So no need to kill any more rats.
Thank you for making the trip Doc
Here's the second shot of the lab.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/kaegksnd1ebwm6v9wpj76/Lab2.jpg?rlkey=3pyxk9kmd93wata24a7d2ltfc&st=ig38noen&dl=0
Sorry, the embed too does not seem to work well.
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I see one picture of a door. Are there more photos?
AS PROMISED:
As many of you know, I went to go investigate some ENZC stuff at Texas A&M's Preclinical Sciences Institute, or "TIPS" as they abbreviate
it. These were taken yesterday, 4/23. When I got in, I met with one of their Facility managers who gave me a great tour of all of their lab assets. I got to see everything. It's the best lab setup building I've ever seen that is designed for both human and animal research testing and surgical care. Imaging, Diagnostics, Processing Labs, Testing Labs, Surgical rooms, live animal kennels, conference rooms, classrooms, break centers and private staff facilities. All with the latest and greatest components and medical research and diagnostic assets in-house.
These labs were not cheap. ENZC was in a serious lab research house here. (As most of you may know.)
However, when he took me to see an open lab for leasing, guess where he took me? YES, that is correct, the ENZC lab. Blew my mind, this was our first room inspection stop.
Picture here:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/yl1mcze8qm07eisk5l4v3/ENZC1.jpg?rlkey=ttlv45h4ob6lo3epeepw17lgm&st=du1deel3&dl=0[img][/img]
Right to the destination door.
Any modifications or improvements of Clone 3 or any drugs taken by merely 5 percent by our scientists including Harry can be done and re-filed with the patent office if Harry chooses to. Harry has gone through this process once and he can definitely do this again easily.
This re-patent of just 5% modification is all legitimate and has been proven in court.
Why not? ENZC has a lab, knowledge and qualified scientists to remake anything they already previously made.
Oh yeah. You may be right.
Maybe now with the removal of a few crooks trying to enrich themselves with SAGA shares, we get a CEO that can license our technology. To soon to say.
Glad Chandra moved on. Fkng crook!
I was talking about docsetc and his walk down.
I have not heard back from doc. I don’t think I will ever will. If I hear anything from the company, it will coming from the company PRs. I expect to hear more from the company
O my gosh, I'd forgotten about that one, too~ been so long ago, don't remember anymore. WHAT was it about anyway?
Looks like someone is trying to get there fill before doc’s news is revealed.
Have you heard back from doc yet?
I would like to know what he has found.
Long here.
Inquiring minds want to know!
The “tech” was/is fake. No legitimate company stepped up. Scam from day one, riding the Covid wave.
You're all forgetting that Enzolytics and Biogenysis has no existence in Texas... They CANNOT do any lab work or any advancement of anything. There is no "shares in SAGA" to disburse when one of the subs doesn't exist. They conned everybody and jumped ship, and now the new CEO is conning everyone to start out his reign.
The Cotropias and Chandra took their tech to Adnexus or Mab Tech with no notice to anyone, and Harry is left with ITV-1 and IPF Immune... If they had a lovers spat, I don't give a shit. The CEO skirted on his fiduciary duty to shareholders.
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Independent Valuation Report Pre Clinical Studies
Investments
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Press Release July 20-2021
Enzolytics Announces the Signing of a Letter of Intent with Creative Biolabs, Inc.
for Licensing and Commercialization of anti-HTLV-1 Monoclonal Antibodies
https://www.creative-biolabs.com/
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/enzolytics-announces-signing-letter-intent-113000339.htm
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Press release July 21-2021
Enzolytics and Lonza Bioscience Combine Technologies to Fast-track Development and
Production of Anti-HIV and Anti-SARS-CoV-2 Monoclonal Antibodies produced by Enzolytics
https://www.lonza.com/
https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/2021-07-21/enzolytics-and-lonza-bioscience-combine-technologies-to-fast-track-development-and-production-of-anti-hiv-and-anti-sar
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July 22 INTERVIEW
with
James Hicks, Charles Cotropia and Gurav Chandra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdljO9VLgj0
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COLLEGE STATION, TX August 25, 2021
Important Excerpt from this news progress update.
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"The monoclonal antibodies being produced by Enzolytics against the CoronaVirus target 19 conserved immutable sites on the virus, sites which the Company has now confirmed are conserved sites not only on the initial virus strains but also existing in the Delta and Lambda variants, as well as in the Alpha, Beta and Gamma variants."
Enzolytics Inc. and Samsung Biologics Announce
Development and Manufacturing Agreement for Anti-
HIV and Anti-SARS-CoV-2
Important Excerpt from this news progress update.
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"Samsung Biologics (KRX: 207940. K.S.), a leading contract development and manufacturing organization and Enzolytics (ENZC), a drug development company committed to commercializing multiple proprietary therapeutics to treat debilitating infectious diseases, announced the signing of a strategic CDMO partnership agreement."_______
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