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the rules for money makers and retail are two entirely different subjects. it is the job of the market maker to "make a market" - and is what they do sometimes really sketchy looking and at times as shady as slim - hell yeah
But it is definitely not the job of retail investors to "make a market" with their other retail stock holding chums - the legal definition is conspiracy to commit fraud
messaging the narrative - everyday
Manipulation
Manipulation is intentional conduct designed to deceive investors by controlling or artificially affecting the market for a security. Manipulation can involve a number of techniques to affect the supply of, or demand for, a stock. They include: spreading false or misleading information about a company; improperly limiting the number of publicly-available shares; or rigging quotes, prices or trades to create a false or deceptive picture of the demand for a security. Those who engage in manipulation are subject to various civil and criminal sanctions.
This is all related to the companies!!!! and not the investors.. market makers do this all the time. plus i can bring up more articles and definitions to prove this is perfectly legal and nothing related to Fraud.
https://www.sec.gov/fast-answers/answerstmanipulhtm.html
Im coming up on 3 yrs. I notice the bargaining power twiddles with time. I don't want to know what happens after 30 lol
Gents there is nothing left to do then but to let the MM and low bidders who want to amass their shares before the split to take over your stock.
What a shame!
Imho --- even the guys who had 1 Million shares + at $0.01 are going to be in trouble soon.
All I see on this stock is people who buy buy buy while the prices are falling. Holding with the idea of making big bucks WHEN the real traders come in.
But... why would a real trader come into a stock that is sleeping?
Think about it.
I (Mr Day Trader) comes in with $500,000.00 and I want to buy shares.
Who am I going to buy from except from the MM if everyone is holding?
Worse -- who the heck am I going to sell to IF I did get the shares?
Interesting trap! LOL!
" Even though they are trying to have a January 1st implementation
date for both the medical and recreational program within the state of
California, the current information that we’re receiving from the state is that
testing will not be mandated until July 1, 2018. "
see page four.....
http://www.eviolabs.com/uploads/1/0/6/9/106976407/signalbay_082417_transcript.pdf
acting as an individual utilizing no material knowledge you are free to do whatever you want
acting in concert or collusion with other parties to manipulate prices - the example i commented on -
"i will sell to you for $1.10 and you sell to me for 1.12 and he sells to you for $1.16" thats clearly manipulation
regarding your comparison to the store analogy. the simple answer is the SEC - there are rules there that to a civilian make no sense - but are there because they have been dealing with "creative" people for decades and have rules in place to ensure a transparent trustworthy marketplace.
As to materialknowledge - just watch how much jail time the equifax principals get - im taking the over on 35 months federal time
Day traders stock - Not!
Day traders wouldn't touch this stock now. Last year, yes they were here in hordes because there was enough volume, but now, with these sickly volumes (due to all the holding) no one in their right mind would try to trade this stock.
* Of course that could change in a few seconds if a few traders with big cash in hand come in a start wanting to buy millions of shares at a time.
Question If I own a store and I buy my products at wholesale prices
A.) Am I required to sell at any particular price?
B.) In a free market does anyone have the right to tell me at what price to sell?
C.) In a free market, isn't it the buyer who decides at what price they will buy?
In other words, IF I buy at $1.00 and I set my sell price at $1.50, is there any issue with that if people buy the product? Of course, you know the answer. It's no.
If you open a store and buy the same product and want to sell it for $1.25 and therefore take all my business, you win because you get the clients what they want at a better price. All I can do is to sell cheaper.
D.) IF the product is stock --- what is the issue?
Thought there had to be something against it or it would definitely be promoted more. Thanks.
Magnum7419 The articles I've found were from back in May 2017...when was the qtr that WW made this statement of the potential delay? Here's a link to a Rolling Stone article. Typical of what I'm seeing.
EVIO
its no theory - And you havent stumbled upon a new idea - the SEC calls it stock manipulation or maybe you know it by the more popular term. Fraud
Manipulation is intentional conduct designed to deceive investors by controlling or artificially affecting the market for a security. Manipulation can involve a number of techniques to affect the supply of, or demand for, a stock.
They include: spreading false or misleading information about a company; improperly limiting the number of publicly-available shares; or rigging quotes, prices or trades to create a false or deceptive picture of the demand for a security. Those who engage in manipulation are subject to various civil and criminal sanctions.
Hey Map we tried it and it does work. Two people pushed the price on Thursday to get the up trend going. Today, we are just going to sit and watch. NOTICE that the price has already fallen to .9300
There are bids at .93
What needs to happen is that a few people will have to be willing to see small amounts of shares at increasingly higher prices.
Since we made our moves MM prices have been going up. The highest MM price right now are CANT @ $0.900 and CDEL @ $0.900
Last Thursday, when we started, they were in the $0.70 range and going down.
In theory that could work if there were enough people and it was super organized. Person 1 buys at $1 sells at $1.10 buys at $1.11 (from person 2 selling) he rebuys at $1.12 from person 3 who sold and they rebuy at $1.13 from person 1 who re buys at $1.14. The cycle repeats. Margins would increase with more people. They'd all have to buy/sell same amount of shares. But that doesn't take into dilution/dumping or cash outs but would work with low float and low volume.
Hahahaha... best thing I’ve ever read on IHUB.
My daughter just picked up 3000 shares at .98.
Need to Raise the stock price before the 2nd split happens
Hello fellow Evio owners,
Need to Raise the stock price before the 2nd split happens. The only way we can do this is, Evio shareholders who have alot of shares need to sell a few shares min of 100+ to other Evio stockholders by trading we will be able to increase the price. If we all the price to fall as it had, we are all going to lose. It has worked last week because me and a buddy of mine have pushed the priced up more, but it needs more people with higher sell bids also shares to cause more traffic to help.
Example:
need to push towards $1.10+ ranges then it will make the market makers chase up and they cant go down or drop the price as much. also higher prices will bring in more volume and people will see the high spike and catch interest faster than P/R's
#TeamWork
Collinear chart, fast MACD study.
* Good idea, I will keep an eye on it.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SGBYD&p=D&yr=0&mn=3&dy=0&i=t79079719199&r=1506347418010
So how's this day trader stock doing
today, already taking back Fridays gains
i see.
Some may recall a recent post where i suggested something, 'out of the blue' will happen, usually a media event of some sort that will go viral and it will clearly bring a stock like EVIO to the at attention of thousands of new readers and potential investors.
I further suggest ed that it would in some way probably be associated with California and the massive pr that will soon begin to be generated there. Well this kind of statement/event is what i was referring to, not that this is it, but something like, that it I've seen to happen over the years and go viral with other stocks.
Lookng at the investment universe, een those casually or seriously into cannabis investing, stand a good chance of not even having heard of Signal bay//Evio.
Yhat's all about to change, imo.
Check with the CEO of SGBYD, William Waldrop. It was stated by him in the last CC. IMHO I recall it cause he also stated the pesticide testing inhouse was not up an running yet .....Those two issues caused me to sell off prior to R/S.
Never mind just saw you said conference call. I will look for that. Thanks.
I looked for a link providing the effective date of prop 64/recreational cannabis and can't find anything other than January. I checked the last time this was brought up on this board too. There aren't many recent articles on the subject. Do you know where I can confirm this?
FYI they extended the deadline from Jan to June 2018. This extension was supplied by WW in the last CC.
Looking forward to Jan 1st 2018...Cali begins mandatory testing in accredited labs.
Laboratory Testing Regulations FAQ
http://www.cwanalytical.com/regulations/
should have more labs in cali & likely some financing...that & financial ending sept30
A lot to look for to with EVIO. All these conditions will drive this up...probably much higher than we can imagine.
EVIO
Was there any info on if/when the build out for Costa Mesa started, if the equipment was ordered, or when they plan be open the hub? Will they wait for a spoke or two? My question/concern is if the new equipment is taking this long to be accredited in Oregon. It could be over 6 months from build out finish to be generating revenue?
I heard a Radio commercial this morning with a State official in SoCal re:MJ legalization... She was asked if she was worried about a Black Market once the rules changed...
All she said about it was that todays customers are concerned with clean safe product and that California will see to it that it will be regulated to that end... Her big concern is that they don't make reg's so complicated that price forces it.
That was it - short and sweet - no other subject matter - just Testing..
Folks,the testing and cleanliness sector, unlike any other, are in for a deluge of free publicity leading up to opening day.
Fun Stuff.
86% of California Cannabis Clones Contaminated According to Steep Hill
https://www.newcannabisventures.com/86-of-california-cannabis-clones-contaminated-according-to-steep-hill/
* I guess Alan was in attendance here for this exclusive news.
NCIA California Cannabis Business Conference Sep 12 -22, 2017
http://www.californiacannabisbusinessconference.com/anaheim-2017/
* Towerclimber92; I look for the external catalysts (like the above) to pierce the upper trend line but not close over it.
* Now the big stuff like 10K, harvest revenues or franchise expansion, etc., will cause breakout & close over the trend line,,,,, then we are cooking and no looking back.
With the right press releases & revenues from this fall's harvest, I think EVIO / SGBYD could see $1.50. Maybe higher. This has all the characteristics of a low floater. imo
Thanks Tothe, super post, now stickied above:)
SGBYD weekly chart(s)~~~Up +9.17% or +$0.08 to close at $0.98 on volume of 251,990 up from 247,632 last week.
Average Dollar Volume per day was $43,062 ($0.8545 X 50,394) down from $48,333 last week.
chart & tools thread post
* event catalysts this past week
(1) Internal: 8K, Share reduction, September 18, 2017
http://archive.fast-edgar.com//20170919/AUZ2D22CZ22FOJSD222A2ZZ2KNQLFZ27Z292/
Follow-up E-Mail
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=134742936
(2) External: PR, EVIO Labs Prepared to Fund California Cannabis Laboratory Expansion, September 19, 2017
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/SGBYD/news/EVIO-Labs-Prepared-to-Fund-California-Cannabis-Laboratory-Expansion?id=170118&b=y
(3) External: 3rd Party PR, September 21, 2017
https://www.cannabisindustryjournal.com/feature_article/evio-labs-expands-to-florida/
(4) External: NCIA California Cannabis Business Conference Sep 12 -22, 2017
http://www.californiacannabisbusinessconference.com/anaheim-2017/
* Event chart pattern rules
http://thepatternsite.com/eventpatterns.html.
* All OTC listed splits this year
https://www.otcmarkets.com/market-activity/splits
* Stock Splits rules
http://thepatternsite.com/StockSplits.html#NOB1a
* More reverse split info
http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/06/reversestocksplit.asp?ad=dirN&qo=investopediaSiteSearch&qsrc=0&o=40186
* Insider buying rules
http://thepatternsite.com/StockPickingTips.html#NOB9
* Market cap & Performance rules
http://thepatternsite.com/markcap.html
NOTE: Measure rules are on top of their respective charts.
Title of Each Class Outstanding a/o May 22, 2017 from 2nd. Q 10Q Pg. 1
Common stock 682,855,903
Class A Preferred Stock 0
Class B Preferred Stock 5,000,000
Class C Preferred Stock 500,000
Class D Preferred Stock *832,500
* D Treasury 167,500
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/715788/000147793217002485/sgby_10q.htm
The following table summarizes all convertible notes outstanding as of June 30, 2017:
Holder Issue Date Due Date Principal
--------------------------------------------------------
Noteholder 1 3/2/2017 3/2/2018 $125,000
Noteholder 1 6/5/2017 3/2/2018 $125,000
Noteholder 3 9/19/2016 5/19/2017 $51,650
Noteholder 4 3/2/2017 3/2/2018 $125,000
Noteholder 4 6/5/2017 3/2/2018 $125,000
Subsequent events after June 30, 2017
* Convertible notes payable
Noteholder 1 7/14/2017 7/14/2018 $275,600
Noteholder 2 7/14/2017 7/14/2018 $275,600
Noteholder 3 8/14/2017 8/14/2018 $275,600
Noteholder 4 8/14/2017 8/14/2018 $275,600
*Common Stock Issuances
Various dates July 2017 6,950,000 total shares
July 18, 2017 6,666,697 and 1,528,803 for convertible note payable.
August 3, 2017 19,230,769 and 248,683 for convertible note payable.
*Stock Option Issuances
July and August 2017 38,000,000 options vesting 25% every six months to fully vested after two years.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/715788/000147793217004114/sgby_10q.htm
Recent Insider Transactions
Form 4 09/11/2017
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/715788/000147793217004402/xslF345X03/form4.xml
Form 4 09/12/2017
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/715788/000147793217004434/xslF345X03/form4.xml
Share Structure
Market value : $10,162,285 a/o Sep 22, 2017 up from last week’s $9,308,964 a/o Sep 15, 2017
Authorized shares: 1,000,000,000 a/o Sep 05, 2017 (pre split 3,000,000,000 a/o Sep 01, 2017)
Outstanding shares: 10,343,293 a/o Sep 05, 2017 (pre split 1,021,168,920 a/o Sep 1, 2017)
Restricted shares: 3,390,363 a/o Sep 05, 2017 (pre split 325,875,894 a/o Sep 01, 2017)
Float: 6,952,930 a/o Sep 05, 2017 (pre split 652,156,684 a/o May 15, 2017)
https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/SGBYD/profile
Excellent day of consolidation yesterday. I'm thinking we may push into $1.15's next week if this trend continues.
Good eye, thanks for bringing that up (I completely missed the significance) as it is an real external event.
I just came back from a tour 2 months ago n loaded up. Averaged in at $1.68 post split, picked up a bunch at 1.10 bout a month ago. Going to hold & see how 2018 shapes up here gents
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They were an exhibitor at a cannabis conference in so cal this week. http://www.eviolabs.com/events.html
Nice seeing this steady a bit. If it stays above $1 after the ticker change between now n christmas, 2018 watch da fack out. Low floater like this has $10 written all over it on a pop gents
Hey guys, does any of you think that we may finally be going in a up trend. And did ww said something about an event there having this weekend?
Lol. I wish. She is hard to bargain with even after 30 years of marriage.
Gangsta..............That's what it's all about!!! Congrats.......Glta.......Hose
Guys hold off trying to sell my quad to throw another 5 grand in. trying to buy anything lower than .84
TDA clears a bank ACH after three day hold for purchasing non marginable stocks.
Wired funds are available for any trading as soon as thy hit TDA.
Just tell her to let you put the $$ where it belongs and she can have that kitchen she always wanted later.... and a new car haha
Hold off until o get my powder.
I heard that. You’re holding a nice hand and congrats on your buys.
We share the same sentiment on SGBY. But because I have so much rapped up investments, her thinking is we have enough. And I agree to some point but I see more future growth in penny stocks where she sees more in a savings.
When is ever enough. We balance out for sure but I want more lol in SGBY.
Just 20K more is all I want. And it’s just sitting there.... And she is stalling. Uggggggg. We have a couple house projects to finish then I can run with the bulls. Ask smacking time soon.
i know this one was no fun,,,but at least no personal injuries and everyone is fine...
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