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Still you cast doubts with no DD whether Downs is dead.
Nah, I don't think anyone will do that. The company is dead, whether Patty is or not.
OKAY Janice. You're right.
Hopefully the pumpers don't pump AVLN because Florida County left a doubt whether Downs is dead or alive in some people's mind.
Not me. I think Downs id dead beyond a shadow of doubt.
It's LAME because there's only about a three percent chance that it's true. The probation office can't afford to pay $5 for a death certificate? Or get one free as a professional courtesy??
So what's the deal here? I suppose it's also possible that they just lied because they'd failed to update their records and you caught 'em out.
But something ain't right.
What do you mean by lame excuse?
Are you going to try to verify that Downs is dead or that Downs is still alive?
Huh? I'm saying THEY are making up a lame excuse. Which I find very strange.
Has the air of an excuse.
So how would anybody ever get information if they didn't ask?
I am the one that emailed them first because Downs was so quiet.
Nope. I think what they said is weird. Has the air of an excuse.
Do you think I made up that email from the Seminole County Department of Corrections (Orlando Circuit Office) and then posted it here?
Hell no. Patty is a super-slimeball. But I've always found it very strange that nobody shut him down, despite all the complaints. This was, after all, an extraordinarily blatant scam.
I proposed long ago that perhaps they wouldn't touch him because he was an informer. Sounds ridiculous, but it's the only explanation I can think of.
Sure, he probably IS dead, but for the probation office to say they couldn't afford a $5 death certificate is kinda fishy.
But you claiming that Downs is in a witness protection program is even more ridiculous. Almost like you are a pumper.
True. But making that claim seems absolutely ridiculous to me to begin with.
Not surprisingly, county employees make many grammatical errors that leave us appalled.
Budget restraints has limited our ability to obtain a death certificate,
Has should be "have"
Priscilla Carter
Circuit Administrator:
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/facilities/comcor/09.html
Yes, I should think that if all they need is a $5 death certificate, they could simply ask.
I don't know that the probation department would have to pay anything for a death certificate. Agencies with a legal need are usually supplied with one by the recording agency.
If a court needs one, they can always subpeona one.
SHEESH!! In Florida, a death certificate costs FIVE DOLLARS.
http://www.doh.state.fl.us/planning_eval/vital_statistics/deaths.htm
His death was reported, though not in detail. But I think it's pretty weird that the probation office says they can't afford to purchase a death certificate. They're not exactly expensive.
Wait.
At least try to call "Carter, Priscilla" or email her.
You and Janice makes my DD look bad otherwise!
From: "Carter, Priscilla" <carter.priscilla@mail.dc.state.fl.us>
To: @yahoo.com
Cc: "Scala, Barbara" <scala.barbara@mail.dc.state.fl.us>
Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 8:58:26 AM
Subject: Patrick Downs DC3 348456
Dear Mr. ,
You are correct. Records reflect Patrick Downs died February 10, 2010.
The Court will not enter an Order to terminate the probation until acceptable documentation of death is provided. Until then, his case is reflected in an active-suspense status. Budget restraints has limited our ability to obtain a death certificate, however the Department of Corrections continues to seek other acceptable documentation for the court.
Sincerely,
Priscilla A. Carter
Circuit Administrator
Florida Department of Corrections
400 West Robinson Street Suite 709S
Orlando, Florida 32801
407-245-0267
FAX 407-245-0270
Good question - I have no idea
Do you think Downs is dead?
Couldn't afford to order a death certificate??
I was just thinking... What if he isn't really dead? What if he's in WITSEC or something?
Pretty much confirms it.
From: "Carter, Priscilla" <carter.priscilla@mail.dc.state.fl.us>
To: @yahoo.com
Cc: "Scala, Barbara" <scala.barbara@mail.dc.state.fl.us>
Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 8:58:26 AM
Subject: Patrick Downs DC3 348456
Dear Mr. ,
You are correct. Records reflect Patrick Downs died February 10, 2010.
The Court will not enter an Order to terminate the probation until acceptable documentation of death is provided. Until then, his case is reflected in an active-suspense status. Budget restraints has limited our ability to obtain a death certificate, however the Department of Corrections continues to seek other acceptable documentation for the court.
Sincerely,
Priscilla A. Carter
Circuit Administrator
Florida Department of Corrections
400 West Robinson Street Suite 709S
Orlando, Florida 32801
407-245-0267
FAX 407-245-0270
I tried Protect the Children's Telephone: 888-708-2858 a few days ago. Says something like a non operating phone number.
Registrant protectthechildren.com :
Biometric Security Group, Inc.
1800 Pembrook Dr. Ste 300
Orlando, Florida 32810
United States
And this last time I emailed Biometric Security Group, Inc. I didn't recieve a reply:
Patrick
Sun, March 14, 2010 3:17:00 PM
From: > View Contact
To: biometricsecurity@hotmail.com
How are you doing- Patrick?
iHub members have heard that you may have been in a serious auto accident. Janice Shell sends her love and hopes you recover soon. Can you please email me about your current health and activities? I found that your probation status has been changed to 'suspense'. Can you also tell me what that means?
Yours truly.
xxxxxxx
aka- Jungle_Trader
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And BSIG
Posted by: Jungle_Trader Date: Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:49:30 PM
In reply to: bol23123 who wrote msg# 22946 Post # of 23010
Here's one of Downs' websites that has no phone number or email address:
http://bsgi-usa.com/
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=44167730&txt2find=bsgi
Might try e-mail addresses at http://bsgi-usa.com and http://protectthechildren.com
There were a few email addresses and I tried one of them yesterday:
biometricsecurity@hotmail.com, info@ids-worldwide.com,
info@avalontechsolutions.com, patrickd777@s-mail.com
failure notice Wed, June 23, 2010 4:58:30 PM
From: "MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com" <MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com> Add to Contacts
To: yahoo.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at yahoo.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<info@ids-worldwide.com>:
CNAME lookup failed temporarily. (#4.4.3)
I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long.
--- Below this line is a copy of the message.
Return-Path:
Received: (qmail 9653 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jun 2010 22:58:18 -0000
Has anybody tried to email the company email account?
Is anybody answering the emails?
Is there more than one email address used by the company over the years?
Maybe JT can... I never kept track.
Someone might want to ask an Admin to check those.
Possibly- Datatech, hitechwatcher, makinmoney777
Can someone post links to all of them?
So, Downs is deceased. Did he have an iHub alias?
They certainly were in this case. Quite a few people contacted them with hard information, and they ignored it all.
No kidding....
Summer or Fall of 2005, was the first I heard of this stock, with the $0.23 EPS projection.
And nary a report anywhere.
The SEC appears to be essentially worthless.
LITO
Certainly took 'em long enough, didn't it? Five years? Six years?
PO said from all the information he has on Downs, Downs is deceased due to injuries from an auto accident.
NOW they suspend it?
Way to show up late, SEC. Heck, this barn isn't just empty of horses, it has been converted to a home for wayward World Cup referees and dot.bomb executives trying to get into politics.
But by all means, put a lock on the door. (sarcasm)
LITO
And I called his PO this morning but he is out of the office until 1:30 PM.
AVLN suspended
The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission announced the temporary suspension of trading in the securities of the following issuers, commencing at 9:30 a.m. EDT on June 23, 2010 and terminating at 11:59 p.m. EDT on July 7, 2010:
Syntech International, Inc. (n/k/a Avalon Technology Group, Inc.) (AVLN)
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/suspensions/2010/34-62361.pdf
One of Yasar's ex-employees:
jungle says:
Downs dead feb 14th they say but I think they are making up bullshit
Imran says:
he cant dead on velatine day , but he can kill baby after eat 2 tablet of viagra
Last time I asked about Downs....
Patrick Downs, DC#348456
Mon, March 15, 2010 5:12:20 AM
From: CO-Community Supervision <co-supervision@mail.dc.state.fl.us>
According to the database, Mr. Downs was in suspended status due to the fact that he was unable to report in to the probation office. It appears the probation officer is in the process of closing the file, and when completed, the database will show that the supervision is terminated.
Offenders appearing in this status is due to numerous reasons such as jail; in-patient treatment program, hospital stay, etc. Suspense means that although they are still under supervision, they are not available to report in to the office which is a condition of their supervision.
he stiffed them on the bill?
And Downs picked one with the website parked?
http://www.floridafuneralcare.com/
He probably lied about it on his birth certificate.
LOLOL!! That wouldn't surprise me.
Janice- If Downs is dead, I don't really care when he was born. He probably lied about it on his birth certificate. He had me fooled for a while, sending me computer stuff that I didn't understand. I won't say anything bad about the dead, but to say anything good about him would be tough.
OK. We'll see what she can find.
DC Number: 348456
Name: DOWNS, PATRICK
Race: WHITE
Sex: MALE
Hair Color: BROWN
Eye Color: BLUE
Height: 6'01''
Weight: 240 lbs.
Birth Date: 10/23/1958
Supervision Begin Date: 03/25/1992
Current Location: ORLANDO
Current Status: SUSPENSE
Supervision Type: PROBATION FELONY
Scheduled Termination Date: 05/05/2012
His DOB should be on his probation info.
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AVLN Avalon Technology Group, Inc. Common Stock 7/21/2010 100 12(j) Registration Revoked by SEC **
AVLN is a continuation of IDWD. As far as long term investors can tell, nothing has changed except the name.
IDWD is now AVLN and is still run by Patrick Downs
IDWD & 995ad.com never showed it was anything more than a company on paper and websites.
For AVLN chart:
http://www.profitspi.com/stock-chart-str.aspx?id=AVLN&ca=1524151288
www.profitspi.com/stock-chart-str.aspx
SKULL & CROSSBONES....AVLN......Caveat Emptor
www.pinksheets.com/pink/quote/quote.jsp
Ceo Patrick Downs' last known email: patrickd777@s-mail.com
EXERPTS from MOST RECENT NEWS
will be added when working links are available
Other
http://www.seminolesheriff.org/drawRegistration.php?registration[rfn]=2613
or if this one is down, try this link:
http://www.seminolesheriff.org/en-us/advisories/registered_felons/registration_search.php?state=felo...
According to the above, this verifies allegations of Downs history. Two ways to interpret, A)Believe he's a crook and is pulling a scam on you now, or B)Believe that like you, given a second chance and being on probation would be plenty incentive not to pull anything illegal.
Probation Officers supervisor: "Martoral, Carlos" <martoral.carlos@mail.dc.state.fl.us>
Here are some dead websites CEO Downs has used for AVLN/IDWD:
http://www.avalontechsolutions.com/solutions.html
http://biometricsecuritygroup.com/
http://www.ids-worldwide.com/ADMIN DISSOLUTION FOR ANNUAL REPORT
http://www.wsasecurity.com Default on 12/1/2007
http://www.biometricsecuritysystems.com/ ADMINDISSOLUTION FOR ANNUAL REPORT
http://itdevelopmentsolutions.com/ ADMIN DISSOLUTION FOR ANNUAL REPORT
http://995ad.com/
http://995ad.cn/
http://www.hlsworldwide.com/
http://www.battcave.com/
FAQ Section
1. IDWD has morphed into AVLN.
2. According to independent sources, Patrick Downs, acting CEO for AVLN is a convicted felon and currently serving a lengthy probation sentence.
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