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Goodbuddy4863

10/30/10 11:52 AM

#298323 RE: bim524 #298321

Yes, if there is one thing Nokia is good at, it is
being stubborn.

They will see it thru to the end...

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j70k

10/30/10 1:06 PM

#298330 RE: bim524 #298321

Nok's decision to risk embargo has always puzzled me. What was it that gave them the confidence to not settle before the alj decision? Several ideas have come to mind and may hold a clue as to how they will proceed with the appeal. Number one, something made them very certain that the decision was going their way, and to me it seemed very odd that an alj would make a comment that this would go to appeal. Now maybe this is an obvious observation by the alj, but with the staff already on nok's side, the comment on appeal would seem to be a signal that the alj was not comfortable issuing an embargo while an appeal was carried out. The question now becomes what do nok's attornies think of the claim construction that the alj used to justify his decision? Will they risk a certain embargo on a very narrow claim construction and give negotiating power to IDCC to push for a higher settlement? This really is a pricing dispute and nok knows that it will have to license sometime. No longer is it the mighty nok vs. a weak IDCC, so it would seem to me that the rational strategy would be for nok to strike their best deal before a decision is handed down at appeal. If they are close now in their negotiations, then maybe settling before Dec. 9th is a possibility. However, my guess is that they proceed with the oral hearings before coming to a deal. The caveat is: NOK is not your rational company and always seems to have another cat in the bag. The risk/reward pucker point is coming very soon for nok, let's see how strong a sphincter the new management team has. I will disagree that a loss at appeals is priced in to our current sp. jmo
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dclarke

10/30/10 1:29 PM

#298333 RE: bim524 #298321

Bim, at that point they knew that the claims construction was very narrow coming from levi and rolled the dice. Now it is de novo on a subset of the issues in dunners backyard. This is different and would turn a WIN into a LOSS! I dont see how there attornies will suggest they roll the dice again and face a possible much higher royalty. Additionally you have a ceo brought in to revive the US market? This is headed for settlement in the next few months, with the best chance prior to Dec 9, imo.

Dclarke