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luckystrike

07/23/04 4:23 PM

#61294 RE: jon_e_og #61278

Holy s#@%.. BEST POST I HAVE SEEN!!!!!

Casprs1

07/23/04 4:28 PM

#61299 RE: jon_e_og #61278

Very nice read jon.... I think you've covered it. I can't wait until mid August! Now, on to happy hour.

gump90

07/23/04 4:32 PM

#61302 RE: jon_e_og #61278

Where you been jon ?
Excellent. You have my vote. My sentiments to the letter. Very good reasoning.

olico ™

07/23/04 4:33 PM

#61305 RE: jon_e_og #61278

Great post, its either or, and it will be a great day here, or one ugly life for Urban to live if he is playin.........

tick tock......tick tock....

Billy9565

07/23/04 4:38 PM

#61325 RE: jon_e_og #61278

Great post Jon!!! eom

RichieBoy

07/23/04 5:09 PM

#61358 RE: jon_e_og #61278

jon e og

I think your post is refreshingly different and possibly correct to a great degree but in all fairness underestimates the MM's much like everyone else in love with this stock fails to realize.

The power of this small group of people is more than anyone wishes to admit too. The money behind them, the experience they have, and the cards they have not yet shown. They have been down this road many times and their track record for wins is much more than most Longs like to admit too. I am not saying that NSS through the MM's is right I am saying that the difficulty in proving them wrong and taking them to task on it is vastly underestimated by starry eyed longs looking for the quick short squeeze buck.

Yes Roger and Urban are doing the right thing for the shareholder but the difficulty of the negotiation I think has been overlooked. I hope I'm wrong but the arm twisting by the MM's we cannot see and of course CMKX will not comment on if they are smart. I believe they are. I'd love to be "astonished" as you close in your argument. Truth is though this may be a longer and harder fought battle than many are prepared to admit.

For every shareholder's sake I hope I'm sadly mistaken but I don't see the MM's lieing down on this one yet. As time goes on ( it has been put back how many times? ) you will be witness it to intensified treachery manipulation and betrayal seldom before seen as MM's position on the THE CASAVANT MANEUVER with the vengeance of a mad man. Only it will all make perfect sense to the MM's. Don't get me wrong Roger must be good but I have yet to hear anyone say he is infallible.

This reply is to make longs more aware. So many are thinking this is cut and dried case of a clear win for the Casavant camp on a short squeeze. Frankly I think they are dreaming in TECHNICOLOR , never underestimate the enemy. Urban can be successful but not with the speed and grace many tout he will. FWIW I have ordered my certs an hour ago to assist CMKX in any way possible. I will be holding come Hell or High Water but it won't be easy and many times your confidence will be shaken to the core. It won't be the cake walk many are predicting. There is just to much money at stake here and the MM's are more than aware of that. DIG IN.

As ever joe_e_og... ALL YOU REALIZE? JMVHO good post :)

Long & Strong

Cheers....Rich

getgreen

07/23/04 5:51 PM

#61379 RE: jon_e_og #61278

jon_e_og: wow,brilliant.eom

aGoodChance2Win

07/23/04 6:14 PM

#61382 RE: jon_e_og #61278

I like and agree with your post....

But how high of a share price will we achieve in your opinion.

chriscg

07/23/04 6:30 PM

#61385 RE: jon_e_og #61278

Absolutely brilliant

Cali8888

07/23/04 6:39 PM

#61387 RE: jon_e_og #61278

It makes you wonder. Maybe naked shorting exists but it has never been proven because it's settled before it goes public. Settlements occur so often is this country to avoid bad press and legal fees- why not in these situations? And if Jon is correct we will own a company with a ton of cash making a tender offer or buyout a distinct possibility.

ericson38

07/23/04 6:58 PM

#61392 RE: jon_e_og #61278

Allowing the shorts to cover...

One thing has always bothered me about these scenarios:
If Urban and Roger have a meeting with the short market makers in a smoke-filled back room somewhere, and cut a deal that allows the market makers to buy back their naked shorts at a designated price, and that price is controlled for an agreed period of time (apparently by JEFF..), then haven't they just committed a blatant price-fixing securities fraud? Even if it is done to correct what we see as a wrong situation, isn't it still price fixing? With Edwards&Angell right up to their eyeballs in the mud?
A lot of these theories, and jon's summary is a particularly clear good one, make sense to me and really seem to fit with what's going on, except for that one element- that somehow Urban has agreed to let them cover at a fixed price. I can't see how he could legally pull that off...

kasia8

07/23/04 7:49 PM

#61421 RE: jon_e_og #61278

jon_e_og, interesting read. Your reasoning makes perfect sense.

stock_hippie

07/23/04 7:51 PM

#61423 RE: jon_e_og #61278

jon hope so soon TV dinners running low