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Mermelstein

03/04/18 1:15 AM

#45776 RE: wadegarret #45774

Bear markets almost always coincide with a recession, and none of the economic indicators are flashing red yet (or even yellow).

Think we're still 3-5 years away from a bear. This market will follow the path from 2001-2008 when the Bush tax cuts spurred a huge economic boom...followed by a bust.

My guess is the next crash will be a sovereign debt crisis. If interest rates go north of 5% it will be incredibly expensive to service the interest on the debt.

value1008

03/04/18 5:57 PM

#45780 RE: wadegarret #45774

Wade, you might want to read this email newsletter in my inbox this a.m. from Mitch Zacks, founder of Zacks.com - he's been right far more often than wrong, and certainly has a much better track record than many of the talking heads out there:
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[Mitch Zacks email newsletter on 3/4/18:]

With the S&P 500 regaining some lost ground from the early February correction, media attention seems to be finally shifting – albeit slowly – back to positive news, specifically earnings season. As our regular readers know, Zacks Investment Management never left the earnings discussion. We have maintained unwavering focus on earnings even at the height of the selling pressure, as our optimistic outlook for the year hinges on stable earnings growth that we think will continue throughout 2018. Zacks Investment Management expects S&P 500 index earnings to be up a firm +20.4% in 2018.

As it stands today, Q4 2017 earnings season has been rock solid, in our view. Total Q4 earnings for the 370 S&P 500 members that have reported are up +14.5% from the same period last year on 8.5% higher revenues, with 77.2% beating earnings per share (EPS) estimates and 75.4% beating revenue estimates. One of the key takeaways for investors here: 77.2% marks the highest beat percentage in a decade.1

We believe that the standout feature of Q4 2017 earnings season is the clear momentum on the revenue front. As you can see in the chart below, Q4 revenue growth rates are far outpacing the previous quarter and the longer-term averages. The percentage of companies beating revenue expectations in Q4 is also materially higher than previous quarters. In short, U.S. companies are making significantly more money than expected – generally a positive for stock prices. The comparison charts below compare top-line performance for the 470 index members that have reported results already.3

[Wade, you'd probably have to go to the Zacks.com site to see the Mitch Zacks post with these charts.]

In our view, one of the more critical sectors to watch in any fourth quarter is retail, as it generally serves as a litmus test for the health of the U.S. consumer – one of the most vital components of the U.S. economy. On that front, there’s more good news to report: as of Friday, February 16, we now have Q4 results from 24 of the 39 retailers in the S&P 500 index. Total earnings for those 24 retailers are up +8.9% from the same period last year on +9.4% higher revenues, with 66.7% beating EPS estimates and 79.2% beating revenue estimates. Solid numbers, in our view. 4

For Q4 as a whole, we expect total earnings for the S&P 500 to be up +13.9% from the same period last year on +8.2% higher revenues. Earnings growth is expected to be positive for 14 of the 16 Zacks sectors, with double-digit growth expected for the Energy, Technology, Aerospace, Construction, Industrial Products, Basic Materials, Business Services, and Autos sectors.

For full year 2017, total earnings for the S&P 500 index are expected to be up +7.7% on +4.8% higher revenues, which would follow +0.7% earnings growth on +3.5% higher revenues in 2016.5

Looking Ahead

As expected, many U.S. corporations are announcing big one-time charges related to the tax law change, which is making the gap between adjusted operating earnings and GAAP earnings the highest in recent years.

But conditions in the U.S. economy coupled with the tax law change seem to inspire many of these companies to also raise earnings estimates for the current period (Q1 2018) and future quarters this year. The ‘positive revisions’ are broad-based, with estimates for 14 of the 16 Zacks sectors trending higher over the last few weeks. Setting higher expectations also means setting higher sales and earnings benchmarks to reach, but to us, it points to increasing confidence in the U.S. economy.6

Bottom Line for Investors

In addition to strong revenue momentum, Q4 has also shown, in our view, a preponderance of positive earnings surprises and positive revisions to earnings estimates. In our view, all of these factors taken together produce tailwinds for stocks, not headwinds. If higher levels of volatility and more pullbacks take hold as we move forward, keeping focus on the earnings picture could potentially offer the respite needed to keep a steady hand.

Additionally, this can help you prepare for the next drawdown. No one knew when the last stock market correction would occur or how deep it would go, but you can prepare for what’s to come with Zacks' March 2018 Market Strategy Report. I invite you to get it free of charge.7

In this report, we’ll explore the technical and sentiment-based reasons a market correction seems inevitable to us in the not-too-distant future. So, while the downward pressure appears to be over for now, we urge investors to expect more bumpiness ahead and with that prepare for it!
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researcher59

03/04/18 6:33 PM

#45783 RE: wadegarret #45774

Wade, the S&P500 forward PE is 17.1 not 20.

I highly doubt we get a bear market this year. My guess would be in 2020. However volatility is back to normal levels and that's healthy. The abnormal extended period of an "up only" market is over. That's a good thing for savvy, opportunistic traders.