Replies to post #14743 on NorthWest Biotherapeutics Inc (NWBO)

[barnstormer]

And here I thought I was the one that was over it - actually, never saw the whole AF/Buzdar/MDA dustup as more than your basic tempest in a teapot. Not unexpected, given AF's track record with NWBO, and if left alone, only news for a day or two. I've seen articles/blogs that have done a lot more damage (try a 40 point hit in one day) and had longer lasting effect.

I don't know that what Buzdar's intent was, just that his comments went beyond any underlying MDA policy or procedure. I do think you're giving AF too much credit. He's just a blogger, granted with a bigger microphone than some, but I can hardly equate him with the national media. However, regardless of what anyone said or wrote, regardless of Buzdar and MDA being apparently hypocritical in their remarks and "policy", regardless of whether shareholders helped or hurt the matter with their complaints, in the end it just makes sense for NWBO to talk to MDA and arrive at an agreement that allows them to release data without giving AF and his ilk any further fuel for his hit pieces, and that was the only point I tried to raise.

[PacificNW]

I absolutely agree with FLipper. MD/Buzzkill purposely did damage imho.
Barnstorm describes this action as a customer service problem, where the company inadvertently sent out garbage spam and when their customers contacted them to alert them of this annoying they were then forced to make a public reply. This isn't what happened.
You can't have a firm do anything they want especially if it is damaging to another company because they feel like it. You can't have a firm that you are doing business with to falsely announce that rules have been broken when they weren't and infact it is common business practice. As far as I am concerned Dr Buzzkill conducted defamation and MD acknowledged it.

[Doktornolittle]

Flipper; Feuerstein is in some sense a professional manipulator. Usually he manipulates a crowd, but in this case, is it possible he manipulated Dr. Buttzar?

Do you remember John Stewart's confrontation with Cramer on Stewart's show? It was unbelievable that Cramer was able to calm Stewart down and have him purring, using just a huge grin, the statement that, "you have a show, I have a show" with the body language saying hey... we are the same buddy, you and me. He completely broke down Stewart who was furious that people like Cramer had ruined his mom's life savings.

Cramer is a master. And Feuerstein learned from the master. Not the same challenge with the Buttzar, but still, manipulation by getting the other guy to feel he is your buddy, and that there is no caution in giving sensitive opinion.

Buttzar may have been jealous of the rumors of his underling's success. I have worked for many people who felt that they had the right to take credit for anything I did, even if it had absolutely nothing to do with them. And Subbiah probably had a bigger booth than the Buttzar at ASCO. That probably really peod him. So he was an easy target. In fact, Feuerstein may have surmised as much at ASCO.

Once Feuerstein had the goods he ran with it. Perhaps by the time anyone else at ASCO new about it, the market cap had dropped by $100M and they had me and many others pounding on their doors pointing that out to them. At that point their professional fibrication team took over, talked it over, and came up with what they felt was face saving PR, albeit at some further cost to NW. But that machine is more like the marketing department than R&D. It is very separate from the Doctors and Scientists.

Some have said that Dr. Subbiah let NW down. I don't know. He is several levels down in the food chain, with the top level occupied solo by the president's wife, based on what I read in the docs that Afford circulated. And those docs indicated that anybody who does not fall in line is in danger of getting fired. I don't think that would benefit anybody, and Subbiah would probably agree.

So maybe the silver lining is that we have Subbiah, and he is good, and that is all we really need.