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So HC, Is the CYGX 'paper' sent back to me by my broker worth holding on to at this point? I was planning on taking it to the bathroom and keeping it as back up?
Is cygx still being thrown around in here?
I think I'll make an appt. at the Southwest Health Technology Foundation and see if Dr Malcom Von ConArtist can help me figure a way to improve my judge of character.....
What in the world are you doing still hanging out in cygxland?
Quick, someone plug in the ice cream machine!!!!!
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Before what's his name went to the hoosegow, one of the first press releases under his reign regarded Rick Barry and his companies envolvement with cygx. Was there ever a retraction presented regarding this statement? Anyone...
TH, although most of what paulness presents here is pie in the sky, his 'Why keep kicking the dead dog' theory is a valid point. Did the dead dog swallow something before it died that is worth the time and energy you and paulness put into your banter here? I certainly hope you two don't engage one another for fun..
Caveat emptor!
One mans scam is another mans business model!
I bet that damn ferrit is getting tired of waiting on someone to let him out of the test lab!!
Those being Malcolm, LW, FV, and in my case RHFT. All IMHO of course.
kind of like in the movie, The Sting, there is a need to keep the ruse going long enough so those involved have time to flee.
Here's a question,,
Say you had a gazillion dollars and you wanted to buy cygx, ip and all. Who would you call?
Noted that the indictment mentions those parties recruited to solicit investors. First step in creating culpability for these individuals.
Who lead plummer to cygx doors? Who has the most shares? Who has the most to lose or gain? This con, I'm afraid, goes back to pre malcolm. That's where you find the first hints of shadiness. There have been a long line of promoters who where compensated by the issuance of company shares that, in my opinion, have known all along the nature of this endevour, and the lack of true potential with this company. After the investigation by the Feds reveals the players involved, it will be my intention to persue claims against the promoter who roped me in. I know for a fact he was compensated with company shares. I'm sure many of you here are in the same situation.
Not up on your movie trivia gdepc..
JSG
May I suggest a QOTD, "There's a sucker born every minute"
--David Hannum --
I agree, I don't think this will ever go kaput. Why would JC ever let a 'free money' generator like cygx go kaput??? Next to a printing press, its about the next best thing for him.
Thanks sauce,
That is the thing that I most regret about cygx. I have mentioned the company to a few people and now it would appear to have been a mistake. Take my money but leave my friends alone cygx snakes....
MS doesn't have the ability to unlock his own car door let alone unlock the mess he left behind. As for his patent attorney capabilities, how many patents did he get thru under his watch? Times up...ZERO I would role out the red carpet for LW and FV before I let MS near the front door. And I think LW and FV are, well, short of fully honest. cough cough cough. All IMHO of course.
I figured you would have selective memory on this question.
His name is Michael Skillern. This Micheal Skillern;
"In the event CYGX's president is removed from office without his consent and agreement or if CytoGenix, Inc. defaults on any agreement which holds the assets of CytoGenix, Inc. as collateral then for good and valuable consideration SKILLERN is hereby granted a worldwide, non-exclusive royalty-free License to use any technology owned by, assigned or licensed to CytoGenix, Inc. SKILLERN's license granted herewith shall be effective as to the date of this CONSULTING AGREEMENT, shall continue in perpetuity, and shall bear no license fee or other charges."
which comes from this filing;
http://www.secinfo.com/d11MXs.31dj.c.htm
Same bat song, same bat channel. Should I move on to the 'family trusts'??
Old time posters, does anyone recall the name of the cryogenics guy. The pres. preceeding Malcolm maybe even two prior? If I'm not mistaken, he has an open ended claim against the ssDNA IP of CYGX. I dont recall that issue every being resolved. Just stored away to be used at the right time by the spin sters.
paulness whatever became of this:
Re: Paulness post# 34987 Post # of 63460
NEWS NEWS NEWS today We had great news !!! great news for CYGX and DNAG TODAY .
CytoGenix and the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston Sign Agreement for Preclinical Testing of synDNA(TM) H5N1 Avian Flu Vaccine Candidates
Tuesday May 16, 5:05 pm ET
HOUSTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 16, 2006--CytoGenix, Inc. (OTCBB:CYGX - News) has entered into a research agreement with the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston for preclinical animal studies of synDNA(TM) H5N1 vaccine. Dr. Slobodan Paessler, scientific director of the Animal Biosafety Laboratory and the Galveston National Laboratory Advanced Veterinary Services (GAVS) Core will be supervising the research.
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CytoGenix scientists have developed a synthetic DNA vaccine against a known strain of H5N1 as a test bed for efficacy and safety studies. In preparation for a possible pandemic, the synDNA(TM) technology is designed to produce millions of doses of a DNA vaccine in a period of a few months.
HC, soft peddle all you want. I am not worked up. Just because I choose to share my thought here is not indicitive of my state of mind or well being. I have just decided to remove the rose colored glasses and to no longer give the benefit of the doubt to any action taken by cygx employees (are there any), its board of directors(or should I say director),or any public relations fluff. The only people who would still be propping up this effort have probably made their play and have 'driven' off with the bounty and now want more.
Cobra, I wish I was smoking something and I hope I am wrong, but I honestly think cygx was nothing more than press releases and spin. At every suggestion of progress, there has been a roadblock. Do you remember Phanel Pursuits?(sp) Why didn't testing ever begin in India as promoted by company. Why wasn't it reported by the company that our 400,000 dollar ice cream cart (still would like to know where it is) ever produce one strand of synDNA.
Why didn't company ever answer my multiple inquiries as to the agent of record on the building malcolm blew the last of the cash on, (I believe rumored to be LW's wife).
3D, unfortunately, gross incompetence I could almost live with. Being played the fool, not so much.
Here is what I have learned.
First. I assumed a certain level of oversight by the organizations whereby this stock is publically traded. First Nasdaq but ultimately our government (SEC), (which daily we see is the definition of gross incompetence). I was wrong.
Second. Just because prominent individual/s are said to be tied to a company, this in itself should not be construed as validation of any inherit honesty or truth regarding the company. Names presented to me by the individual who introduced me to cygx included N. Bunker Hunt, Nasa Scientists, Rick Barry, etc. I was wrong to bestow trust based on their supposed connection to company. Much the same as the arguments on this board that 'all must be positive based on the credentials of the most recent list of renowned professionals'. lol. Look what that got us.
Third. A prospectus is true. I was wrong.
Forth. Trust gut instincts. If it looks like a pig and acts like a pig, well its probably a pig.
Fifth. Seemingly good people wont purposely do bad things at others expense. I am wrong.
to be cont...
Here is my take. There never has been a viable product candidate. All spin. Make a filing with the FDA. Tell everyone you have filed. Fluff Fluff. You and I could do the same thing tomorrow. Look at the addresses of those supposed companies cygx was working with in past. The ones LW promoted. The taiwanese fisheries...They end up being apartments somewhere as I recall. Present hype about agreement with GE Healthcare. Only problem, was it was CYGX doing the buying.... Pay company to release PR's about your technology,(scam), again, you and I could do the same tomorrow.
And I dont want to hear another patent issue. All BS. Only delay tactic.
Gang, the only thing that is happening right now is the people who propegated this whole thing are getting away in a cloud of confusion created by them for that reason. We dont even know who is in charge. Who would the SEC go after. This was the plan from the very beginning.
I play golf and more than I wish, hit a shot I cant find. I always give up looking with the thought that,, OK I acknowlegde that the ball is now the rightful owner of the next person that finds it, however, I wish there was a way to know how close I was to stepping on it. Same for cygx. I acknowledge I've been had. I just wish there was a way to figure who 'got' me?
Shill--a person who poses as a customer in order to decoy others into participating, as at a gambling house, auction, confidence game, etc. That would be the pumpers, one being LW and his release of untrue statements regarding in house orders at cytogenix in 2006/7, IMO.
A confidence trick or confidence game (also known as a bunko, con, flim flam, gaffle, grift, hustle, scam, scheme, swindle or bamboozle) is an attempt to defraud a person or group by gaining their confidence. The victim is known as the mark,(that would be me and unfortunately a lot of you) the trickster is called a confidence man, con man, confidence trickster, grifter, or con artist,(See BOD list and mgmt over last 10 years) and any accomplices are known as shills. Confidence men exploit characteristics of the human psyche such as greed, both dishonesty and honesty, vanity, compassion, credulity, irresponsibility, and naïveté. Confidence men or women have victimized individuals from all walks of life, IMO.
Replace the word confused with swindled and I believe you have the correct assessment for the majority of people here. Kind of like the silent majority that manifested into the teaparty. Maybe we should march! (If only cygx actually had a location to march in front of).
My thesis,
Come up with some cutting edge scientific idea that makes since upon explanation. Package this idea and give it a name, say, ProductX. Release positive results regarding testing and project it effectiveness on a global scale. Draft prospectus with all necessary and legal disclaimers then go see what fools are willing to pay for the opportunity to hitch a ride on the wagon. Raise more money, tell more stories. Change players making accountablity a moving target. Raise more money, tell more stories. Anounce new way make ProductX with caveat that it will take more time and money to acheive. Dilute stock value. Fire people. Disappear. Reappear with grandiose claims. Again, change players to disquise accountabilty. Do I need to continue.
Now, ask yourself, which thesis is more likely true?
In thinking thru your case for optimism, I have to ask you HC, please, please, tell me one thing, one instance, one foretelling, from anyone employed by or associated with Cytogenix, including, Wunderlich, Vasquez, Skolnick, Cowsert, Moseley, Stein, Barry(what a joke),Plum, Rossi...etc... that has ever been delivered, come to fruition, or in this most recent round of shananigans, been even true, regarding anything that this company does, has done or will do.
On the other hand, were I to go back say 8 years and list the various announcements, press releases, woulda, coulda and shoulda's put forth by the companies various orators, it would be nothing but non-delivered upon retoric. And know, to present a reason for optimism? God bless ya. I hope you are right.
gdepc- could the court even begin proceedings without verification of summons/notice of claim being received by both parties?
If in fact a notice of claim was received, how can failure to notify the BOD be perceived as anything short of a purposeful ommission. Then you would have to ask has Cowsert gained any benefit especially given the fact his name is on almost every 'positive' press release since 9/9/10.
On the other hand, if notice of claim was never received, the whole thing could be thrown out?? (I'm not an attorney nor do I play one on television).
HC, i would take issue with the fact that cowsert know nothing. cygx officials would have had to 'receive' notice from the court of proceedings regarding the company. Either by certified mail, courier, county sheriff.
" Of course, nobody comes out of this episode looking particularly good".
This may be the understatement of the year.
SP/5 leaves. TH returns. If it were me I would have waited a few more days.
You know looking back, I should have known that anyone named Lex can't be trusted and is without fail, sinister! Cowsert makes the second Lex I'm aware of, Luther being the first, and he got his comeuppance in the end so, we can only hope.. If speculation is true, maybe all these shares traded are indeed cowserts and he is flying the coup. Insert John Malkovich as cowsert and you've got yourself a pretty good script.
And since this fiasco cant get any more wacky than it already is, I'm going out on a limb and suggest that indeed, Wunderlich will be the next president and frank his VP. If only wunderlich would have won the battle in the conference room in 07, maybe we could have avoided all this corrupt drama.
SP/5 has said goodbye so my guess is this poster name will not reappear. The 'poster' will probably start dumping via old name or new. MM's playing the game. Still I wonder the competency of any in new mgmt or BOD, if in fact, all the PR over the past 6 weeks was without knowledge of patent/s issues.
I must not be reading the right information. Where has it been publically stated any patent ownership information in the past few days???
I would question the legality of any comments supposedly made by Cy as this would be considered inside information. example Whats happening at APPLE. Why dont I call Steve Jobs. After speaking with Jobs I'm selling all my APPLE shares. Come on people. This has the smell of MM's doing what MM's do.