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None needed. But thanks.
Still holding. Still adding.
100% COMMONS.
100% Patience.
Never giving up.
Happy Birthday! Here's to that hope coming true. Preferably much sooner than you turning 92.
Just as the truth hasn't changed our situation all this time; the same applies to the govt talking points.
We say something and nothing happens. Govt says something and nothing happens.
We say we should be $200 pps, JP 100% PAR but here we are. We spin our wheels. It's hard to see if we got anywhere.
Govt talks on ending lawsuits, cashing in thru warrants (stake?), large ipo, reform, and congressional assistance, but here we are.
With exception of initial coercion into c-ship and then with NWS the only few things changed:
1. We are all older (time )
2. We (FnF) made $100's of Billions (where it was sent is another post)
3. We have unsealed docs and more testimony /evidence on the facts
We'll see where, when , and how well this ends for us, but I am certain of two things(speaking for myself) that I will be profitable (how much?) & this will take a while longer (barring a surprise).
So when I hear or read what the govt "plans" for FnF, it means nothing to me. It doesn't mean they WILL do it or will get away with it.
Thanks for reading, have a good rest of the weekend. I'm out until later.
It's JMO, of course.
Yes. After we're free and nws shitcanned.
Thanks for your thoughtful response.
Hope you and others are having a good holiday.
Unless something pops up, we most likely are waiting until the new year for anything positive. We'll see. Always hopeful. Off for the day. Have a good one.
The pps now is not the value of the companies.
It is the value speculative investors, traders, and/ or long time holders (who choose to add) are willing to pay for the stocks, while we sit in limbo until something positive and meaningful happens that reveals the TRUE VALUE of Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac.
And the TRUE VALUE, depending on market conditions / valuation models, is between $150 - $250+ pps (undiluted).
Now, other issues could play a factor, but that is the TRUE VALUE. And lack of trust, corruption, and an unknown timetable is why pps sits so low.
What pps prints now is not the same as the ACTUAL VALUE off Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. You and all others know this fact. And that is why we are in court because these companies are BOTH highly valuable and influential in housing (powerful).
Based on risk tolerance, the circumstances, and what information we have available; we place our money accordingly. And so we print sub 50 cents (common) & 8%/10% par (jps).
Happy Thanksgiving Skeptic and the rest of board. Have fun and enjoy the day. I'm off to work.
Smart move. Make the best out of the circumstances.
Nice.
"UKNOWDAMNRIGHT!" - KenKong
Backing up the truck and the boat. Thanks.
U promise?
I think after all the years you've devoted to this issue, we know.
We all know. You actually believe there are that many "new" "unsuspecting" investors that need that told to them?
Commons and JP are both hurting. It seems that whoever is IN is IN, otherwise pps would see movement in an upward direction. Don't you think?
My thoughts anyway.
I'm doing my best to get info out on twitter in hopes of enlightening those who have no idea who FnF are or what they do or what has happened/ happening to them.
I see you do the same and I thank you for that.
JMO
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac mentioned with FTX
I'll go to the Twitter page.
Link to nowhere. I tried.
You got it friend. I do my best. I agree with Robert. That recent ruling concerning the funding of CFPB is big and could/ should be applicable to other agencies. FHFA most importantly in our situation.
I don't know what will come of it, but I'm optimistic otherwise I wouldn't be here. I suspect I'm not alone in thinking this way.
All the best for you and us all.
Thanks
"Uknowdamnright!" - KenKong
Where's the drop to 25 cents? Either way I add, but I was told a drop to 25 cents to 30 cents pps.
It's fine. I'll keep adding, but I will keep my eyes open.
Thanks
Happy Veterans' Day. Thank you for your service.
Still holding and buying. 100% COMMONS.
I've been buying the dip for a while now.
Boom! I don't care that they don't care. I will not be ignored. At the very least, I will congest their feeds.
Stay strong Brooge! We're here for you.
You mean if it goes lower?
Well, I'll buy there too.
I'm not selling and waiting or hoping for it to drop low enough to enter. If that's what someone chooses then fine.
I'm good holding and adding.
Thanks
Loading the boat as often and as much as possible until it ends.
I believe this turns out well and I am acting accordingly.
99.99% confidence in this investment.
Left 00.01% chance ( margin of error )
This is my belief, speculation, and conviction in this investment.
It's not advice. I am making this statement to balance out the negative sentiment out here (negative sentiment is understandable). Just providing an uplifting outlook.
I will be holding. Good journey to everyone. Whether you stay, leave, or downsize your position.
LFG!
Thanks
JMO
BOOOOOOOOM! But seriously, how many weeks or months do I have to load the boat? And at what pps do you think this goes to?
Do you think it floats at and above 0.40 cents lows?
For weeks to months before any catalyst potentially moves this in an upward direction?
And now I am off to work. I'll check any answers when I clock out.
Thanks
Unless someone enlightens me, short of a surprise, we will be stagnate for about 3 months(est)?
I could be forgetting something, and if I am please chime in.
It just seems like pps will do nothing for about 2-3 months unless some surprise.
Any thought appreciated.
Thanks
JMO
Amazing. Thanks for the info. Looking forward to the appeals.
Dismiss the remand from scotus and en banc?
How could the occur? The judge would just ignore the remand and guidance/ opinion of higher courts and rule based on their own bias?
Amazing if that's what you're saying. Very sad as well.
Thanks
Hope they appeal. There is a really good chance an appeal overturns the decision.
Would it be appealed to Scotus? I would hope a better outcome from a larger group at the highest level would result in a favorable outcome.
They have more eyes on them and I believe it's a better chance they can't or won't look the other way on such a ruling.
Not like the incidental powers BS. This appointments issue is a bigger stretch, imo.
That directors with tons of power can stay indefinitely without being confirmed. Horrible precedent.
My hope and my thoughts on the subject, anyways.
Also looking for appropriations issue helping our fight.
Thanks
JMO
BOOM!
Not all evidence was allowed and dumbass Lamberth tripped us up, but we'll try it again I guess.
So, BRING IT!
How you doing Clark? Well, I hope. Enjoy the rest of the day.
And on that note, I have to go to work.
Mistrial per Katie.
Mistrial #FANNIEGATE $FNMA https://t.co/zomMBpBzhE
— Fanniegate Hero (@DoNotLose) November 7, 2022
We know. We all heard the hearsay reasoning.
And we're disgusted with it and the treatment by Lamberth.
Thanks for your efforts as well.
That wasn't said or implied.
If it was all men we'd wonder the same thing. If there was one woman juror and she left early. So only 8 men remained.
The only difference would be what men would be thinking versus women.
Nothing to be read Into.
Is what it is.
Unless Achilles tells you otherwise, that's how I read it.
I'm not saying that the jurors are indifferent.
I am saying that despite the evidence, they are sticking with their opposition. I am saying they don't care about obvious facts, they are still saying "No".
If indifferent, then yes, they'd want to just wrap it up.
But, if they don't care about right and wrong, and instead are consumed by their bias, then they will fight us on any and everything we show them. I mean, short of Demarco/ TREASURY/ fhfa saying they wronged us, I don't believe a bias juror will switch sides. If it is rigged (through bias),then you can't convince them because convincing would assume their opposition is based on rational and reasonable assertions or a lack of knowledge. I can work with that, but if no matter how damning the evidence they won't budge, I mean what else does that point to. Just like no Judge can help resolve this? They know better, but choose to look the other way.
That's why gov sticks with "Death Spiral" lie and commitment erosion, both proven lies, but they don't budge. Deny deny deny.
Is it because they fully believe it? No. Not at all.
JMO
If the 4 or whatever # of jurors remain against P's, it won't be because they aren't convinced or don't see it or don't believe it or don't understand.
It WILL be because THE JURORS don't care.
Just like govt (fhfa/ treasury/ white house) don't care. It is and will be deliberate.
Demarco admitted it. He admitted to not caring, bcuz profit or not, he wanted wind down. Admitted to not giving any appropriate amount of consideration. The very definition of arbitrary, capricious, and unreasonable. Demarco & govt didn't/ don't care.
And after all testimony and evidence, even with Lamberth BS, and with definitions being explained of those two words (arbitrary and unreasonable) so there is no excuse of ignorance, the jurors still say "NO"?
This case is a "SLAM DUNK"......
IF the jurors and Judge did their duty based on fact, logic, rule of law, basic math, and grammar.
But somehow these people don't grasp it?
No. It is deliberate.
Whether it be: BIAS, COMPROMISED, CORRUPTION, ETC.
BUT NOT incompetence or ignorance.
The ONLY PEOPLE to believe "fanniegate" never happened, coincidentally happen to be all the people deciding our fate?
If bias, or conflict of interest were removed, WE'D WIN in a heartbeat.
Why do you think when another country does the same exact thing, it is quickly acknowledged and condemned?
But when the people doing the condemning are guilty of the same acts then it becomes "nothing to see here".
Rules for thee and not for me, basically.
BS!
Anyway, that's my belief. If jurors come around then they weren't compromised or bias, but if not, that's exactly what they are. No way to see it another way. If so, would be naive in my opinion.
JMO
Yes and No.
Lamberth affected our choice of jurors when he didn't allow the jury questionnaire.
That would have helped immensely in weeding people out, but Lamberth said there wasn't enough time.
Kind of like restricted damage models to $1.6B then saying the jury decided of their own free will on that #. When options are restricted, you are then driven/ manipulated in a direction of Lamberth/ gov/ etc choosing.
So.....we (P's) didn't actually choose who we wanted, but who we could within our limitations put on by Lamberth. Just like $1.6B, not really a choice when you are restricted to that one number.
But anyway.
Thanks 4 this.
Amazing to say the least.
We need a win OR a fresh start. Lamberth revealed himself fully in this case. Such a disappointment. Shameful. That is how he chooses to leave his position of power? With a corrupt and biased court case.
There is only so much you can do when things are heavily manipulated.
And even with a win, Lamberth sets $1.6B limit and nothing else can be discussed?
And that's IF, we win. He did everything he could to limit our chances for a victory without appearing too biased.
After this GB needs to burn his outfit with Lamberth on it.
Maybe a new one with Hume? For his efforts dealing with Lamby Pam.
STILL HOLDING 100% COMMONS
JMO
What a shitshow! 51% likelihood and all the testimony and unsealed evidence and you still have half the population saying,"Huh, I don't get it."
It's like they have a disconnect in their minds. We all know people like that. No matter how many times you explain something, they just don't get it. Or they're biased.
Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac were stolen and things need to be set straight.
Still holding. If drops I buy more. Going down with the ship if that's what it comes to, but I don't believe it will.
JMO
Sounds like a plan Stan.
You read my mind. 100% COMMONS
My shares will be getting new brothers and sisters soon.
"Uknowdamnright" - KenKong