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Wow..and I remember a time when all you were saying to me is how wonderful this Koos guy was...lol
Oh wow is me..we're going to fail..lol
Because...those points don't guarantee a payout to us...been there.
All three of the cases I have been involved in were at least as compelling if not more than this one...
And we shareholders got screwed each time.
Don't be naive.
Just because you hire a lawyer doesn't mean the outcome is a slam dunk.
The only slam dunk is lawyers make bank and for a lot of them..they don't care what the outcome is...they just want to be paid for their time.
Contingency is the only way you can be guaranteed a fair shake and why is it no lawyer would offer contingency if this is such a slam dunk?
I have said my piece...good luck.
With all due respect....I didn't start this...and I certainly have never tried to dissuade anyone from spending their own money as they see fit...I only started pushing back when certain statements were being made against those that hadn't contributed....and when the statement was made that there would be one payout for shareholders that contributed to the legal fund and a lesser payout if anyone at all to those that didn't contribute to the legal fund.
It was at that point that I shared my experiences with this sort of thing, having gone through this several times before....
No offense taken by the way...I like peace..but I do call out bs when I smell it...sorry.
Understood...but what I think is naive is the fact that 99 percent of the time in these types of actions..shareholders get screwed and lawyers make bank...
I get that there are some whales with large holdings....
But the vast majority of us have smaller positions.
It makes absolutely no sense to fight for this alongside the whales.....
At what point does it make sense to put thousands in for legals...if you only invested 7500 in the first place?
Already this effort has been screwed by a shady lawyer...
Reset...more money required...
And in case you haven't noticed the bickering is off the charts and no one..not you or anybody else really has a clue which side is up.
So just keep putting money in...if it makes you feel hopeful.
I have lived for 66 years and seen a lot in my lifetime.
And this smells to high heaven.
BS..legal action is no guarantee of anything...except lawyers make bank.
And for many of us ..an investment of 5-10 k...years ago..doesn't justify 250/month minimum until this mess is closed out.
No thanks.
There's a point where it's just lunacy to throw more good money after bad.
Been there..done that..many times.
Nothing further after this post yesterday?
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=168723866
Like so much else of the doom and gloom posted on this board...seems to be all based on shoddy dd.
The issue is with the OTC markets group as explained repeatedly by MF and his lawyers as they try to get the CE removed.....yet in that post all the blame was assigned to CATV and MF.
Complete bs.
There is a huge difference between noticing the negative ratings slapped on CATV by the OTC and waiting for an explanation from MF...and immediately jumping down MF's throat and stating as fact that this was his plan all along...
Obviously with the removal now of the dark /defunct designation and the removal from relegation to the expert market...this was an adminstrative error by the OTC..
But how quick..to jump and blame MF for this.
While I was dismayed based on what I was seeing on the OTC markets group site as it pertains to this stock..I was waiting to see if there would be an explanation from the company.
The removal one day later of the erroneous ratings shows this had absolutely nothing to do with MF or CATV.
Credibility....lol
LOL..this just shows how fked up OTC markets group regulation is.....
Something MF has been battling against for months and months...
They claim to protect shareholders...
How is frivolously slapping negative ratings on a stock ( dark defunct and about to be relegated to the expert market) with no rhyme or reason responsible and protective of shareholders?
Complete bs..as is the CE designation.
All speculation and no fact..next.
Forgot to dot an i or cross a t...that really makes me feel confident..lol
I find this whole situation a little unsavory.....and I don't lose site of the fact that this could also be cooked..and shareholders get screwed yet again...we'll see...
If in fact the shell has been abandoned.....and there is something else going on...when will the company let us know?
And who's to say if there is a new clean shell and ticker that we will be brought along in tact....that's usually not the case...this is the otc..the place where bs rules and sanity and truthfulness doesn't exist for the most part.
I am not feeling very hopeful..but one would think that within the 15 day grace period before CATV is moves to the expert market that MF might have something to communicate with us..
Don't hold your breath.
Speculate all you want..if this shell cannot be cleaned up by removing the CE..then there is no point continuing to use it.
I would avoid jumping to conclusions....
I agree in a lot of cases..going dark is not a good thing... and frankly the grace period is meaningless before moving to the expert market if the shell has been abandoned in order to move the company into another vehicle for public trading....free of all the bs that MF has nothing to do with.
IF and a big IF there is a plan B..which I believe there is...then the fact CATV's shell has been left to die makes sense.
Time will tell....and it shouldn't be too long now.
Else Nutrition Products Made Affordable to Millions of Families via EBT on Amazon
Monday, May 2, 2022, 7:01 AM ET
Through the benefits of the Federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, Else Nutrition has achieved another milestone in its mission to feed children with the cleanest, purest, and most complete nutrition.
VANCOUVER, British Columbia, May 02, 2022 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- ELSE NUTRITION HOLDINGS INC. (BABY) (BABYF) (0YL.F) ("Else" or the "Company"), the plant-based baby, toddler and children nutrition company, announced today that Amazon is now accepting the purchase of Else products by Electronic Benefits Transfer (EBT), an electronic system that allows a Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) participant to pay for food using SNAP benefits.
The availability of Else Nutrition products will now also be accessible to low-income families through the EBT system. The EBT system is used in all 50 states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, and Guam. It is expected to raise the company's recognition among consumers by potentially reaching millions of eligible families participating in the program.
"Our products are especially designed to help support growth and development of children; therefore, we are excited to bring our innovative clean, plant-based products to more families in the US. We are pleased to be able to provide access for those who unfortunately do not have access to premium products but want to give clean and complete nutrition to their children," said Hamutal Yitzhak, the CEO and Co-Founder of the company.
Since launching its Plant-Based Complete Nutrition for Toddlers, which won the Good Housekeeping Parenting Award for 2021, the brand has received powerful testimonials and reviews from moms. Else Toddler Nutrition was also awarded "Best dairy alternative" at World Plant-Based Expo in December of 2021 and a finalist at the Nexty Awards at Expo West 2022.
NO..that's not how it works..go to the website and read .
If you bought or sold shares during the period outlined on the fair fund site..then you can put in a claim before the deadline to file a claim which is sometime in June.
Again go and check those dates out and other information on the website.
The link is listed on this board.
Beyond that you have no further claim(s)....through that website.
Smart traders always print off their trade confirmations so they always have at hand their trading records and so they are not dependent on brokerages to provide legacy information.
Again..everything the company is doing originally is based on the baby formula...which awaits FDA approval.....
All this other product is peripheral as to why Else exists in the first place....
How many times does this have to be explained?
Ya sure if you say so...lol
This isn't about me....
But since you bring it up..I assessed and decided to not put anything else into this..you did the opposite....
The assumption that you'd get a mench of a lawyer but instead end up with a shyster...wasn't planned for or thought about.
As I have stated here many times I have been through this rodeo several times and my decision was based on those 3 outcomes in which each time shareholders were screwed by both lawyers supposedly representing shareholders and management running companies those same shareholders invested in.
Sorry if reality sucks.
Not looking good .
Anyone that put one penny into this besides buying the stock has effectively been screwed by Rader.
So all that money has done squat.
Does anyone think there is any more money let alone the appetite to continue this....even though there might still be the opportunity to further pursue this...after this fiasco?
Certainly not with Rader...so where does that leave everything?
Funny how Rader's legal website has been taken offline.
Doesn't bode well...and I wouldn't be surprised if Rader even files anything....think about it...he ignored the judge's order and then fails to show up or even communicate with the court...who were all there at his behest.
This is done regrettably.....imo.
NOT ON YOUR TIMEFRAME
You can't be serious...
Because it clearly shows that the company is a sham ...if that's not important...then continue....LOL
I bailed on this stock almost 3 years ago..nothing has changed...and excuses are still being made defending Gary..lol
This should be good....
No I didn't forget anything...except the bs.
....and it has nothing to do with CATV or MF...point?
YOU think you're intelligent..figure it out.
lol...better sell..and move on.
Slow and steady...progress..I am fine with.......the company prospects will develop on their time frame alone.
And I am not blind....
I never expected sales numbers to be off the charts....I have seen the business plan..I have seen the company executing on those plans...
Not what message board investors think they ought to be.....
Eventually this company will be taken over by one of the big whales....
What is happening now is laying the foundation carefully for success in the not too distant future and then a buyout..down the road...after up listing to the Nasdaq....IMO.
I have stated here repeatedly that not until the baby formula is released will the company really move into high gear.
The products being marketed at the current time are not the predominant reason why Else exists in the first place.
It would bode well to remember this...
Complaining about lethargic sales of secondary products...and that the company might fail.....
tells me there is a lack of understanding with regards to the company business plan and their execution of said plan....which they have been following exactly.
It was sarcasm..lol
I'd be interested to learn more about the trading strategy......Hope......
And I don' believe for one second that KHE (distribution) and large investors (Asia) would have come on board if they didn't feel confident that Else has the ability to do what they have set out to do.
There is a lot of money behind the company and it is also completely ridiculous to assume that Hamital controls everything that happens..In what world is that the way a company is run? Certainly not in the case of Else Nutrition.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/else-nutrition-kehe-distributors-sign-110000013.html
There seems to be a lot of impatience and fear mongering...so the suggestion would be to divest and move on if it is felt the company is not on solid footing and put those funds into something that doesn't lead to constant negativity....just a thought.
Otherwise.....stay the course and watch what is unfolding before your eyes..as the company executes its' plans on it's timelines and not those of disgruntled investors.
And by the way..ELSE TRADES ON THE TSX....not the TSXV in Canada.
Exactly!
THis stock is not on the TSXV...
WTF.
That's funny....this is from a post.....
"I remember the same feeble defense of Bignitz/Turner and Carter - neither of those worked out very well - I had seen those stories too many times and they worked exactly as I told everyone."
As always..CONTEXT is ignored.
Complete bs.
All assumptions not based on fact..just like everything else...complete bs.
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Exactly when was Turner indicted...just pure bs...because he never was nor has he been implicated in any wrong doing...pure bs.
THis is a moot point..there are no differences in what shareholders would get whether they joined or didn't join the lawsuit...Every shareholder retains exactly the same right according to fiscal law.
I have been through crap like this many times before..and whether you want to believe this or not..shareholders usually get screwed..win or no win.
I refuse to put one more cent in here as the previous 3 times I did support legal action on two Nasdaq stocks and one otc..it went nowhere...and shareholders got back next to nothing while the lawyers made bank.
It's a bit ridiculous to think one way or the other about this whether you put money in or not..It never comes out well....and I say that from three previous experiences... all that appeared to be slam dunks.
That is why when I bought my shares a few years ago I realized it was a lottery at best and I consider that investment gone.
And have no doubt..the judiciary is in no way impartial...regardless of fact.