Tegrity:

My Gawd you have a lot of time on your hands!

If you are in business with Zig, I guess that's what you can do all day...instead of actually producing an ROI for yourself or anyone else.

My, oh my...the race card and baseless nonsense all in one penning! You are a waste of space and everyone’s time here – or you are a family member of his in order to go anywhere near this con with your money. If you really are legit, you should run not walk from him.

How dare you call me a racist...how dare you! I'm offended that you would insinuate that I would attack an elderly Jewish gentleman who makes his living off of sales training books and doing seminars...oh, are we talking about the same Zig? Where am I? Am I on the right board?

You probably didn't get that whole paragraph above...but others will (and I'm damn funny)...I couldn't care less if Ziggy was purple...he is a con no matter his race, religion or color. You don't need to live in Arizona to read Zig's own press releases...recorded interviews telling wild tales of partnerships and sales success...statements at trade shows...etc, infinitum.

My mom always told me to say something nice about someone – Okay, Ziggy has a really nice speaking voice and is quite articulate.

I found the other comments in reply to your nonsense (about the moderator of this board allowing me to post) funny. I think back to the days my posting of facts and documents on MTDX were mysteriously deleted by the “moderator” without explanation…the same moderator who ended up discovered as a pumper and dumper after we reported him to the board owners…remember that?

Those who have been around for awhile know that I lost very little personally to this con. Ziggy was brought to my attention by someone about to invest in the second 2004-2005 con-wave...and I'm very proud to say that I did my part to help end this fraud by contacting friends in Phoenix, doing some basic research and posting FACTS - likely saving a number of marks from getting taken.

Stop defending this useless piece of trash and move on...you seem to know the "man" so well...why not invite Ziggy to come on these boards and defend himself by providing all of those scammed with actual evidence that he was just some dumb pawn/mark instead of a knowing con-artiste on par with Picasso. If, according to your tales and version of events, Zig really was taken advantage that many times in one lifetime - why on Earth would you do business with such a zero?

People here are posting in order to ensure others to steer clear of Zig (or JZZ or whatever he calls himself today). They will never get their money back...all they can do is take pleasure in making sure the only executive management question Ziggy will ask in his future will be "Do you want fries with that?"

Looks to me like Ziggy is one lucky/smart/calculating SOB – He’s the one still with his freedom while his counterparts will have their dance cards full with dates with Bubba and the boys behind bars for years.

Well, back to the compound to continue my translation of The Turner Diaries into Korean. Oh, can't forget to clean my special sheet for the cross burning later this week.

Peace, my brother.

-All comments "In my Opinion"

Hey "integrity":

I HAVE met Zig. I HAVE been around Zig. I have witnessed the man and watched him over the years on several occasions...I also know at least a dozen people who live in Arizona who have been around the "man." Not competitors. Not ex-employees...people. People who entrusted this idiot with their money and even their children.

I haven't been around these boards in a while...ever since several of us (some who you berated) uncovered this slime ball for what he is and helped end the Miller scam. A friend just wrote me that channel 12 in Phoenix tonight did a small segment on a company using "Motion DNA Technology" to help little old ladies define a weight-loss programs - I assume through the latest scam of JZZ. My goodness, won't this really just finally die? In "die," I mean Ziggy getting his due like the rest of these criminals.

By the way, this is "only my opinion"...so you can take your "slander" threats and shove it. Ziggy is a big boy. Let him file against all of us...we'll gladly counter-sue and force his butt to prove his "victim" status in court.

This good/caring "victim" whom you speak of:

1. Throws temper tantrums as coach at girl's softball games. Cursing up a storm and making parents cover their daughter’s ears.

2. Lies to investors, customers, anyone - again and again. The man is a serial liar - a simple Google search of his very own postings underlines the depth that Ziggy has gone to.

3. Skip on leases. Skip on vendor bills. Leave employees unpaid and other naive small business operators out in the cold. Go see the lawsuits filed in AZ as proof.

4. Continues to commit scams. How many ticker symbols can someone sandbag or proudly represent as their "Founder/CEO" in 5 years? I think Ziggy is the world record holder.

Fool me once - shame on you. Fool me twice - shame on me. If you believe this saying, then Zig is no fool, he is no victim...he is either the world's greatest mark or a seasoned wolf/scam artist. You either have to be very naive, Zig himself, Zig's legal counsel, or a relative of Ziggy if you truly continue to promote the former to the rest of us.

Just like we told those scammers and Zig apologists in 2005 - just shut up and go away...and take Ziggy (with an SEC lifetime ban tattooed on his bald skull) with you.

Out.

Remember – IMHO!

LOL...Before we get to Zig...let's discuss chronic liars!

I also love how they continue to scam media by promoting athletes who are also on the ole Zig payroll via likely now worthless stock options. Stupid athletes.

In the interest of full disclosure, shouldn't the media state..."and for xyz athlete (who is a part owner of Zig's latest scam) uses it and claims it does wonders!"

Robert Klein told a joke years ago about Maury the hair piece guy who had commercials running in the 70's. Klein said that Maury who wear his own wigs and it "looked like a piece of lettuce on his head" and Maury would end every commerical with "Why trust me? Because I'm the owner of the company!"

At least poor Maury has more class/honesty that Zig.

Zig - you are a scamming loser (IMO)

Friend in Arizona said Zig and his cronies are out in sports community trying to gain partners and people to appear on his show...only people willing to listen are those who haven't heard of his antics. Suck born every day I guess. People from his latest stock scam are also out pushing Motion DNA products under different name...and claiming Ziggy has nothing to do with company...please.

So...does any of the shares track back to ZZ? Friend in PHX called me to report that JZZI has "sales people" out in the field pushing "a new software based movement analysis system." JZZI also claims to have no ties to Zig and that "Motion DNA" is just a TV show now...

Hey Pack-Rat - I've researched your posts on the other boards - not calling yourself a pumper, eh? Okay, how about extreme BS promoter? Communicator of self-serving bogus information? Whatever helps you to sleep at night.

Save us all some time and effort and look at the MTDX board - There you will find all of the attempts (post the '05 buyout scam) by pumpers who attempted to make this scam/dog legit. There are many people on this board that were taken for a ride and who will not stand by while Zigbag and his cronies try it again (counting this - the 4th time).

If you did indeed purchase stock in this "company," you are either 1) A person who does zero DD or; 2) A person who thinks they will ride a scam while staying just on the edge of legality or; 3) Another professioal pumper who just got found out.

Either way, I suggest you dump your shares, move on and park yourself on another board.

Have any MTDX shareholders received their converted shares?

Guess someone didn't believe the hype of the new TV program or web site...

Price Size Exch Time
0.09 100 OTO 10/02
0.05 1798 OTO 10/02
0.05 1798 OTO 10/02

Ziggy...watching the news today?

"...but post-Enron we have come to expect double-digit sentences in white-collar crimes."

avdave - Right on...but is she a MILF soccer mom?

Must...get...photos...

If she was a real CEO, she would have done an asset purchase and taken the "assets" and dumped the many liabilities of this dog through chapter 7.

My guess - Stay at home mom that made some money off a clever toy idea that had a 2 year shelf life. Do it once, you're lucky. Do it twice, you're legit. This is no Steve Jobs that we're dealing with, folks.

Bet someone a cold one that she's a rich mom of one of Ziggy's softball girls. Absolutely no one - I mean no one in their right mind would get involved in this dog at this juncture if they knew anything about business or how to do some simple web research.

Those of you who were scammed had an excuse - She is obviously not in the know. There is no upside here, folks. The train has left the station on the "real" product.

Another prediction - She has no clue about the PR or anything else to do with the stock, as evidenced by the lack of quote in the PR.

Love ya, Zig - You scummer!

Stupid is as stupid does...

You would think these people would know enough to save some money by altering their automatic 100 block buy trades down to 7 cents from 10 and 9.5.

Let's give the slime-balls the benefit of the doubt and assume that they've got no trading fee accounts and just buy blocks to keep the posted price high.

What I scratch my head on is (sorry to those still holding some shares like me) the concept of paying ANYTHING for this company right now. What the hell is anyone buying? I mean, save the bills and burn them in the winter - at least you have the benefit of some heat!

Check this out:

0.095 100 OTO 09:55:27
0.10 100 OTO 09:55:27
0.095 100 OTO 09:48:23
0.10 100 OTO 09:48:23
0.05 2700 OTO 09:30:17
0.07 29900 OTO 09:30:08

I mean, someone just took their hard earned money (unless it was one of them just buying from the illegal gains) and bought 29,900 shares of this gem @ 5 cents. Someone please explain the logic and what I missing.

Lookin - That's so funny I forgot to laugh!

Noogies for you, Mrs. Lupner!

People: Let's ship Ziggy to Iraq!

This guy is just amazing - and has to be one of the most daring and egocentric people that we'll all ever come across in our lifetimes. How honored we are!

I'll be the first to purchase 10,000 shares of this dog and donate it to a local charity if these orders come through.

Does this guy have a book on 1001 ways to screw with investors? If so, I think the "potential orders" game is #3 on the list.

Hmmm...I know people that were around the NSCA convention the entire time and word on the street and activity was not good for Ziggy. In fact, there were other vendors that had technology and products that made him look like a joke. Let's see those orders Zig! How about a quote or two from their reps when the deal is signed?

I say let's send Zig and his ability to create spin to Iraq and place him on TV. Imagine the job he can do in selling some goat farmers on the idea of democracy!

"People of Iraq - I am Zig, representative of America and speaker for capitalism and how to live in a democratic society. Let me tell you - where there's a will there's a way. You all actually have something of value to sell to the rest of the world - oil. I'm drivin' a freggin' BMW around Arizona on dollars earned scamming people with products that don't exist and promises I never keep. Imagine the possibilities for you! We'll turn Baghdad and the rest of Iraq into one BIG SAFE HARBOR!"

Zig Incompetent? - Not a chance.

According to people that know in PHX, he's driving around in a new BMW convertible with his bling on.

Someone is making money somewhere.

Jackass or calculating con man?

Is anyone suprised?

Just a matter of time. If you are an existing shareholder, find an AZ attorney to dismantle this scam and get something back for your time and trouble...probably a penny or two.

ALL IMO!

$2,250 = Ziggy paying the electric bill in summer

IMO someone paid 5 cents too much...

Can I still short this?

Hey - I'm not naming names on these kids...Just reporting what I was told. These "kids" and their "parents" are being duped just like the investors who believed in Zig. Problem is - it's money with us and real injuries and issues with the kids that he "trains."

The parents are going with the cheap option by getting free training. Zig is using the kids in that market for his ego and marketing - these kids are the ones getting the shaft.

I'm not picking on them. Trying to shed light on this idiot and trying to stop him from injuring more honest folk either financially of physically.

Later.

Someone's at it again...deleted my post #2282.

Unbelievable. Nothing in that message violated the board terms - It only stated facts and my opinion of MTDX management.

Come forward and explain yourself, "moderator."

Big things from Motion DNA on Horizon!

Oh, and monkeys are flying out of my butt!

Well, if yer looking for Zig, he's not at home - or at least the home office. According to a source in the area down there, he's picked up and moved to a MUCH SMALLER facility nearby. Did they notify anyone of the move? Do his investors know about the circumstances that caused the move? We'll never know...

No worries...People have copies. The FTC has copies.

From a discussion board in 2003:

Zig

Your attitude is one thing. Your honesty is quite another. Quite frankly, at this point I could care less about your system. You won't supply what we've asked probably because you can't. You continue to attack us when we are simply asking tough questions. Yeah, we're old and crusty and not an easy sale. We have opinions about the swing. We have to be sold. We want proof of which none has been offered and apparently won't be.

I have a feeling the answers to those questions upset you more than we do.

By the way, I've had one conversation with your office. Chris was very helpful. He needed to contact you to get an explanation from you of what the problem was. He did that. You emailed that something would be done. And, to date nothing has been done. There was nothing rude about our conversation. What I guess you interpret as rude is the number of emails I've sent asking for the same thing over and over again.

And, again, one can only deduct that your system can't answer the questions or you would've supplied them and ended this long ago. After all, you came here to us, we didn't go looking for you. You made statements and accusations and we asked for proof. To date....nothing but name calling.

For a good laugh and history lesson...

http://www.batspeed.com/messageboard/10423.html

Zig, Martens, etc. were at this way back when. Love how Zig shows his true colors once he is challenged. I think Martens was legit and suckered by Zig back then but then why don't people just come out and say "I own a piece" or something to clarify that they are not some neutral party.

Sad thing is - Their point about human movement and the body sciences behind the swing is legit. However, Zig and his BS has set this area of training back 5 years. Why? Their management skills suck, they lie to prop up their claims, and they lose credibility. Tie that with a technology that has been passed by and you get a valueless stock that can only be manipulated with BS PR's.

Zig is such a joke. This guy obviously never learns...or does he? He really has a knack of walking between the rain drops. Looks like this other co. with Martens will be the next pump and dump shell...just watch.

Love the comment about testing A-rod next week in 2003.

A buddy in the youth softball community says that Zig is a joke in PHX. Constantly curses in front of kids, shows no respect for other coaches and umps, and has constant temper tantrums as coach. Maybe the pressure from the fuzz is stressing him out? His girl players are either fat, injured, or both. Great role model. Best thing is - he formed these teams and "trains" these girls for free to make it look like people use his products. Problem is - they supposedly suck.

ALL IMO.

The "Patented" statement crossed the line...

Statement of facts are excluded from the SH protection. Maybe this was what the enforcement people needed to start the process? Would make the lack of information in the last 8 weeks make sense, eh?

brig - Glad so see...

...an offer to play by the rules

However, what of your ability to sensor?

a moderator is defined as a "mediator" and a mediator is defined as "Being in a middle position."

You, like me, are not in a middle position here. You have a clearly stated agenda here. How about eliminating a potential conflict of interest by removing yourself from being able to censor opinion, albiet based upon some supposed rules being broken, by deleting messages. I am sure the others are quite capable.

BTW - Where are these rules posted? Where they in the original subscription agreement with this site or posted on this board?


Gooooooo Zig...Directly to jail and bankruptcy.

Your attorney is correct...There is likely nothing there

Since they operate in Arizona, you may want to contact a local attorney or AZ AG as most public officials do not like scams operating in their states. Nevada also has a task force since that state has a lot of shell corps.

Last, you may look for an attorney who specializes in penetrating the corporate veil and go after personal assets if fraud can be proven. More than likely, it would have to be in cooperation with the State and have payments made through a victim's fund.

All IMO

Moderator: Tanail Assistants: brig, chinditone
Created: 4/28/2005 8:54:30 PM

brig - I dare you to leave this post up. If you have nothing to hide, you'll keep it up.

So, how do you find out who the moderator of this board is? #2200 (quite funny, if I do say so myself) was removed.

Please advise.

So, you tried another email address and it worked?!?

maybe they blocked your address. Try creating another and sending.

Yeah...People are here...

There's just nothing to say.

The pumpers have nothing to pump since the last BS attempt fell flat due to people getting smarter and conducting DD into this scam.

Could Zig be quiet due to (finally!) the authorities making contact?

When you lose credibility in a community (you know who I am alluding to), you get real quiet...or you have a tantrum and start sounding off like a moron, spouting BS like Gooooooooooooo Zig!

Others are just sitting back watching the ship sink, seeking entertainment value instead of a ROI - which they know will never come.

There was action...

0.14 100 OTO 15:52:51
0.138 20000 OTO 15:47:41


Very light. You would have probably seen an SEC PR if trading was halted.

It is almost funny enough to laugh at. Only someone like Ziego or one of his "friends" would spend more on a trade than the value of the shares being purchased just to see the stock close at a certain level...So sad.

Here is the skinny of trading today:

Price Size Exch Time
0.14 100 OTO 15:54:55
0.10 9500 OTO 15:54:36
0.10 10500 OTO 15:54:36
0.14 100 OTO 15:33:28
0.11 40000 OTO 15:33:09
0.11 3000 OTO 15:29:50
0.11 20000 OTO 15:25:26
0.14 100 OTO 15:24:06
0.11 890 OTO 15:21:58
0.11 5000 OTO 15:21:58
0.14 100 OTO 13:04:47
0.11 19992 OTO 11:24:13
0.14 800 OTO 10:02:50
0.11 3200 OTO 09:33:01
0.14 7142 OTO 09:30:10

brig - My apologies!

Actually, what amazes pretty much everyone that reads your posts here is the obvious ignorance you show to reality and/or ethics.

Now that you have clearly claimed to not be Zig nor involved in any business with Zig, you have solidly positioned yourself as either:

1. A complete putz who cannot see through the scam or;
2. A pump and dumper who promulgates and promotes lies and "forward looking statements, illegally manipulates share prices, all for profit and then tries to bully those working to protect new fish from your hooks.

So, sir, which describes you?

You'll strengthen your defense case with the SEC if you just admit that you are an idiot who talked with Zig and believed his BS.

Of course, this is all "just my opinion..."

Brig - Oh, so you admit that you are in some level of business with Zig? Oh, this would answer so many questions on so many levels.

Who is moderating this board?

Messages are being selectively deleted. If there is a violation of the rules, I would let to get a formal warning of what line was crossed.

Please advise.

Thanks.

Do you mean "Information" or "Disinformation"?

dis·in·for·ma·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ds-nfr-mshn)
n.
1. Deliberately misleading information announced publicly or leaked by a government or especially by an intelligence agency in order to influence public opinion or the government in another nation: “He would be the unconscious channel for a piece of disinformation aimed at another country's intelligence service” (Ken Follett).

2. Dissemination of such misleading information.

"IMO" based on the above, Skeena, brig, etc. are the disseminators of DISINFORMATION, either purposefully or otherwise. Obviously, from brig's "floating on the lake" statement of thanks, he seems to be the proverbial card shark taking money from the Vegas tourist.

Don't know if this answers your question but look at the flow of information and timing and you'll see the answer. The bottom line issue is that the statements made under safe harbor or otherwise is not information or knowledge. Rather, what you get are communications with a purpose (whether directly from the source or from disseminators...and you know the purpose!

Lookin...what?

1. Don't know who you are or what you are writing of? Please elaborate.

2. Sorry, got a great scenic view from my private office at home. Haven't been in an office environment in years. Enjoy the cube life...You are more than likely making me money in your corporate rat race job.

Brig - figures. You must be "one of those people" with your boom box, too tight torn jean swim suit and case of Bud, messing up the beauty of the lake. Go ride out in your cheesy party barge and jump in that lake...just don't run into my sailboat.

Brig, your stupid "Go Zig" statements are a slap in the face of those who believed this was real and invested with this guy in the beginning. We know that you have made money riding the scam. We know, we know. Just shut yer pie hole.